Guest guest Posted December 29, 2005 Report Share Posted December 29, 2005 Dear Jack & All, Many thanks for sharing your experience with your brother after he passed into another realm. This between-the-worlds seems to be so close but... so far. I will need to become more personal so you'll be able to understand my position. My husband is a devout christain - he would not permit me to see a " real " Shaman; and also, I could not in my right mind do this behind his back. It would be too difficult for me to live our marital life in peace and harmony with that kind of secret kept from him. In other words,... this would be crossing a line. My husband seems to be tolerating reiki - I began to study Mikao Usui Reiki/Shiki Ryoho the Japanese traditional format this past spring. A master recently directed me to an energy that assists transitioning spirits. I want to study this energy next. I am hoping that it may help as much as the Shaman helped you and your brother. Thanks again for your words of comfort and hope... ~Danamarie ***** Danamarie: If it's any comfort to you, your brother is probably still around you, perhaps even watching over your life. My brother came through various psychics since his death, beginning with six months after, and each time has relayed information about my own life. If you get near a gifted psychic who is genuinely capable of channeling messages, your brother may take that opportunity to communicate with you. You have to be careful, few psychics have that ability. It's a rare gift. As to a ceremony, I don't know where you are in the world, so it's difficult to say. It's important to go through a real shaman, someone with the gift and ability to communicate with the other side. There are so many who say they can and would be glad to accept payment, but they really lack the ability to communicate. For a long time I believed that simply burning incense at home would help my brother. The first thing he did in his ceremony was to knock the incense burner out of the shaman's hands to prevent my burning any more incense. It seems that my incense burning attracted negative spirits, and those spirits were making it difficult for my brother to assist me. So you need to find someone who knows what they are doing. Remember that if your brother wants that to happen, he can manipulate human activities to " arrange " for things to happen. My brother has worked quite a few " synchronicities " in my life. It seems he had to wait all those years while I learned Chinese and then came to China before he could get his ceremony. The ceremony involved a few articles that can be had in any Chinatown: spirit money, candles, incense, a bottle of alcohol, a side of meat, some rice and a live rooster. The key is to find the right person capable of performing the ceremony correctly, and with the genuine ability to communicate with the other side. Regards, Jack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2005 Report Share Posted December 29, 2005 Dana: If your husband accepts Reiki, then it is possible for you to find a good Reiki practitioner to help you. Reiki is not far removed from Daoism, and Daoist priests come close to shamans. Reiki practitioners employ magical symbols that may have originated in Daoism. Wiping out the spirituality of the ancients has been ongoing for the past two or three thousand years. Chinese officials have tried to eradicate spirituality, by and large over the centuries, and Daoists have always been the scorned minority. Regards, Jack --- das4145 <asenat45 wrote: > Dear Jack & All, > > Many thanks for sharing your experience with your > brother after he > passed into another realm. This between-the-worlds > seems to be so > close but... so far. > > I will need to become more personal so you'll be > able to understand > my position. My husband is a devout christain - he > would not permit > me to see a " real " Shaman; and also, I could not in > my right mind do > this behind his back. It would be too difficult for > me to live our > marital life in peace and harmony with that kind of > secret kept from > him. In other words,... this would be crossing a > line. > > My husband seems to be tolerating reiki - I began to > study Mikao > Usui Reiki/Shiki Ryoho the Japanese traditional > format this past > spring. A master recently directed me to an energy > that assists > transitioning spirits. I want to study this energy > next. I am > hoping that it may help as much as the Shaman helped > you and your > brother. > > Thanks again for your words of comfort and hope... > ~Danamarie > > > ***** > > Danamarie: > > If it's any comfort to you, your brother is probably > still around you, perhaps even watching over your > life. > > My brother came through various psychics since his > death, beginning with six months after, and each > time > has relayed information about my own life. > > If you get near a gifted psychic who is genuinely > capable of channeling messages, your brother may > take > that opportunity to communicate with you. You have > to > be careful, few psychics have that ability. It's a > rare gift. > > As to a ceremony, I don't know where you are in the > world, so it's difficult to say. It's important to > go > through a real shaman, someone with the gift and > ability to communicate with the other side. There > are > so many who say they can and would be glad to accept > payment, but they really lack the ability to > communicate. > > For a long time I believed that simply burning > incense > at home would help my brother. The first thing he > did > in his ceremony was to knock the incense burner out > of > the shaman's hands to prevent my burning any more > incense. It seems that my incense burning attracted > negative spirits, and those spirits were making it > difficult for my brother to assist me. > > So you need to find someone who knows what they are > doing. Remember that if your brother wants that to > happen, he can manipulate human activities to > " arrange " for things to happen. My brother has > worked > quite a few " synchronicities " in my life. It seems > he > had to wait all those years while I learned Chinese > and then came to China before he could get his > ceremony. > > The ceremony involved a few articles that can be had > in any Chinatown: spirit money, candles, incense, a > bottle of alcohol, a side of meat, some rice and a > live rooster. The key is to find the right person > capable of performing the ceremony correctly, and > with > the genuine ability to communicate with the other > side. > > Regards, Jack > > > > > > > for Good - Make a difference this year. http://brand./cybergivingweek2005/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2005 Report Share Posted December 29, 2005 Jack, What is spirit money exactly? Can you give a link to how to honor your ancestors properly? I know this is very important to the Chinese, but I don't necessarily run into this very often to Non-asian Buddhist converts. I have experienced the synchronicity thing often, and I always thought it was 'God' as I understand it, but perhaps its a relative or ancestor. Okay, I will tell y'all something nutty . . . one time 'someone' took over my voice to keep me from saying something that may have caused harm in the long run. Taking over my voice, is the best way I can put it. I just had the feeling like, that isn't at all what I was going to say. But more than that, like, I don't think my brain sent that command to my mouth and vocal chords to speak those words. That I know of, no one in my family has died a violent death, per se. Now that I think of it, most have died of lifestyle diseases. For the most part I don't think I have an inordinate amount of assistance from the spirit realm. But I hate the idea of my relatives being spiritually bankrupt. Zenisis Chinese Traditional Medicine , Jack Sweeney <mojavecowboy> wrote: > > Dana: > > If your husband accepts Reiki, then it is possible for > you to find a good Reiki practitioner to help you. > Reiki is not far removed from Daoism, and Daoist > priests come close to shamans. > > Reiki practitioners employ magical symbols that may > have originated in Daoism. > > Wiping out the spirituality of the ancients has been > ongoing for the past two or three thousand years. > Chinese officials have tried to eradicate > spirituality, by and large over the centuries, and > Daoists have always been the scorned minority. > > Regards, Jack > > --- das4145 <asenat45@h...> wrote: > > > Dear Jack & All, > > > > Many thanks for sharing your experience with your > > brother after he > > passed into another realm. This between-the-worlds > > seems to be so > > close but... so far. > > > > I will need to become more personal so you'll be > > able to understand > > my position. My husband is a devout christain - he > > would not permit > > me to see a " real " Shaman; and also, I could not in > > my right mind do > > this behind his back. It would be too difficult for > > me to live our > > marital life in peace and harmony with that kind of > > secret kept from > > him. In other words,... this would be crossing a > > line. > > > > My husband seems to be tolerating reiki - I began to > > study Mikao > > Usui Reiki/Shiki Ryoho the Japanese traditional > > format this past > > spring. A master recently directed me to an energy > > that assists > > transitioning spirits. I want to study this energy > > next. I am > > hoping that it may help as much as the Shaman helped > > you and your > > brother. > > > > Thanks again for your words of comfort and hope... > > ~Danamarie > > > > > > ***** > > > > Danamarie: > > > > If it's any comfort to you, your brother is probably > > still around you, perhaps even watching over your > > life. > > > > My brother came through various psychics since his > > death, beginning with six months after, and each > > time > > has relayed information about my own life. > > > > If you get near a gifted psychic who is genuinely > > capable of channeling messages, your brother may > > take > > that opportunity to communicate with you. You have > > to > > be careful, few psychics have that ability. It's a > > rare gift. > > > > As to a ceremony, I don't know where you are in the > > world, so it's difficult to say. It's important to > > go > > through a real shaman, someone with the gift and > > ability to communicate with the other side. There > > are > > so many who say they can and would be glad to accept > > payment, but they really lack the ability to > > communicate. > > > > For a long time I believed that simply burning > > incense > > at home would help my brother. The first thing he > > did > > in his ceremony was to knock the incense burner out > > of > > the shaman's hands to prevent my burning any more > > incense. It seems that my incense burning attracted > > negative spirits, and those spirits were making it > > difficult for my brother to assist me. > > > > So you need to find someone who knows what they are > > doing. Remember that if your brother wants that to > > happen, he can manipulate human activities to > > " arrange " for things to happen. My brother has > > worked > > quite a few " synchronicities " in my life. It seems > > he > > had to wait all those years while I learned Chinese > > and then came to China before he could get his > > ceremony. > > > > The ceremony involved a few articles that can be had > > in any Chinatown: spirit money, candles, incense, a > > bottle of alcohol, a side of meat, some rice and a > > live rooster. The key is to find the right person > > capable of performing the ceremony correctly, and > > with > > the genuine ability to communicate with the other > > side. > > > > Regards, Jack > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for Good - Make a difference this year. > http://brand./cybergivingweek2005/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2005 Report Share Posted December 29, 2005 Zenisis: Spirit money is just wads of paper, often with gold or silver paint that represents money. Chinese burn the money at specific times, and the act of burning releases the money from the physical world for use in the spirit world. There are even paper houses, cars and suits of clothing that can be burned. Most peoples probably had ancestor worship, but Christianity came along and banned all of that a thousand or two thousand years ago. I made a personal decision to re-connect with that, because it made sense to me. If the Chinese do things for their ancestors, well, the Chinese aren't the only people on earth who have ancestors, so there must be a lot of bankrupt spirits in that other world whose descendants don't honor them properly. The Chinese have the longest-lived human society on the planet, so these practices go back far into the ancient past. And Christians by and large haven't been able to prevent them from practicing their beliefs. You could honor your family in any way that makes sense to you. Since I have spent so much time in Chinese culture,it's easiest for me to simply adopt their ways. Regards, Jack --- zenisis7 <findme wrote: > Jack, > > What is spirit money exactly? > > Can you give a link to how to honor your ancestors > properly? I know > this is very important to the Chinese, but I don't > necessarily run > into this very often to Non-asian Buddhist converts. > > I have experienced the synchronicity thing often, > and I always thought > it was 'God' as I understand it, but perhaps its a > relative or > ancestor. Okay, I will tell y'all something nutty . > . . one time > 'someone' took over my voice to keep me from saying > something that may > have caused harm in the long run. Taking over my > voice, is the best > way I can put it. > > I just had the feeling like, that isn't at all what > I was going to > say. But more than that, like, I don't think my > brain sent that > command to my mouth and vocal chords to speak those > words. > > That I know of, no one in my family has died a > violent death, per se. > Now that I think of it, most have died of lifestyle > diseases. For > the most part I don't think I have an inordinate > amount of assistance > from the spirit realm. But I hate the idea of my > relatives being > spiritually bankrupt. > > Zenisis > > > Chinese Traditional Medicine , Jack Sweeney > <mojavecowboy> wrote: > > > > Dana: > > > > If your husband accepts Reiki, then it is possible > for > > you to find a good Reiki practitioner to help you. > > Reiki is not far removed from Daoism, and Daoist > > priests come close to shamans. > > > > Reiki practitioners employ magical symbols that > may > > have originated in Daoism. > > > > Wiping out the spirituality of the ancients has > been > > ongoing for the past two or three thousand years. > > Chinese officials have tried to eradicate > > spirituality, by and large over the centuries, and > > Daoists have always been the scorned minority. > > > > Regards, Jack > > > > --- das4145 <asenat45@h...> wrote: > > > > > Dear Jack & All, > > > > > > Many thanks for sharing your experience with > your > > > brother after he > > > passed into another realm. This > between-the-worlds > > > seems to be so > > > close but... so far. > > > > > > I will need to become more personal so you'll be > > > able to understand > > > my position. My husband is a devout christain - > he > > > would not permit > > > me to see a " real " Shaman; and also, I could not > in > > > my right mind do > > > this behind his back. It would be too difficult > for > > > me to live our > > > marital life in peace and harmony with that kind > of > > > secret kept from > > > him. In other words,... this would be crossing > a > > > line. > > > > > > My husband seems to be tolerating reiki - I > began to > > > study Mikao > > > Usui Reiki/Shiki Ryoho the Japanese traditional > > > format this past > > > spring. A master recently directed me to an > energy > > > that assists > > > transitioning spirits. I want to study this > energy > > > next. I am > > > hoping that it may help as much as the Shaman > helped > > > you and your > > > brother. > > > > > > Thanks again for your words of comfort and > hope... > > > ~Danamarie > > > > > > > > > ***** > > > > > > Danamarie: > > > > > > If it's any comfort to you, your brother is > probably > > > still around you, perhaps even watching over > your > > > life. > > > > > > My brother came through various psychics since > his > > > death, beginning with six months after, and each > > > time > > > has relayed information about my own life. > > > > > > If you get near a gifted psychic who is > genuinely > > > capable of channeling messages, your brother may > > > take > > > that opportunity to communicate with you. You > have > > > to > > > be careful, few psychics have that ability. It's > a > > > rare gift. > > > > > > As to a ceremony, I don't know where you are in > the > > > world, so it's difficult to say. It's important > to > > > go > > > through a real shaman, someone with the gift and > > > ability to communicate with the other side. > There > > > are > > > so many who say they can and would be glad to > accept > > > payment, but they really lack the ability to > > > communicate. > > > > > > For a long time I believed that simply burning > > > incense > > > at home would help my brother. The first thing > he > > > did > > > in his ceremony was to knock the incense burner > out > > > of > > > the shaman's hands to prevent my burning any > more > > > incense. It seems that my incense burning > attracted > > > negative spirits, and those spirits were making > it > > > difficult for my brother to assist me. > > > > > > So you need to find someone who knows what they > are > > > doing. Remember that if your brother wants that > to > > > happen, he can manipulate human activities to > > > " arrange " for things to happen. My brother has > > > worked > > > quite a few " synchronicities " in my life. It > seems > > > he > > > had to wait all those years while I learned > Chinese > > > and then came to China before he could get his > > > ceremony. > > > > > > The ceremony involved a few articles that can be > had > > > in any Chinatown: spirit money, candles, > incense, a > > > bottle of alcohol, a side of meat, some rice and > a > > > live rooster. The key is to find the right > person > > > capable of performing the ceremony correctly, > and > > > with > > > the genuine ability to communicate with the > other > === message truncated === ________ DSL – Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2005 Report Share Posted December 29, 2005 Hello Danamarie, Well, the Catholic Christians have an old tradition of praying for the deceased at masses, and there are even whole orders of nuns and monks who basically pray for the dead every day, to alleviate their suffering(if in 'Purgatory', however one understands this; as a state or a place), and bring them Light and Peace. peace be with you, Marcos --- das4145 <asenat45 escreveu: > Dear Jack & All, > > Many thanks for sharing your experience with your brother after > he > passed into another realm. This between-the-worlds seems to be > so > close but... so far. > > I will need to become more personal so you'll be able to > understand > my position. My husband is a devout christain - he would not > permit > me to see a " real " Shaman; and also, I could not in my right > mind do > this behind his back. It would be too difficult for me to live > our > marital life in peace and harmony with that kind of secret kept > from > him. In other words,... this would be crossing a line. > > My husband seems to be tolerating reiki - I began to study > Mikao > Usui Reiki/Shiki Ryoho the Japanese traditional format this > past > spring. A master recently directed me to an energy that > assists > transitioning spirits. I want to study this energy next. I am > > hoping that it may help as much as the Shaman helped you and > your > brother. > > Thanks again for your words of comfort and hope... ~Danamarie > > > _____ doce lar. Faça do sua homepage. http://br./homepageset.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2005 Report Share Posted December 30, 2005 You know Catholics seem to have had the most freedom in integrating their folk religious traditions into the practice. You see this in Haiti, in indigenous cultures in Latin America and so forth. I don't know if this is by accident or by design. Zenisis Chinese Traditional Medicine , marcos <ishk18> wrote: > > > Hello Danamarie, > Well, the Catholic Christians have an old tradition of praying > for the deceased at masses, and there are even whole orders of > nuns and monks who basically pray for the dead every day, to > alleviate their suffering(if in 'Purgatory', however one > understands this; as a state or a place), and bring them Light > and Peace. > > peace be with you, > Marcos > > > --- das4145 <asenat45@h...> escreveu: > > > Dear Jack & All, > > > > Many thanks for sharing your experience with your brother after > > he > > passed into another realm. This between-the-worlds seems to be > > so > > close but... so far. > > > > I will need to become more personal so you'll be able to > > understand > > my position. My husband is a devout christain - he would not > > permit > > me to see a " real " Shaman; and also, I could not in my right > > mind do > > this behind his back. It would be too difficult for me to live > > our > > marital life in peace and harmony with that kind of secret kept > > from > > him. In other words,... this would be crossing a line. > > > > My husband seems to be tolerating reiki - I began to study > > Mikao > > Usui Reiki/Shiki Ryoho the Japanese traditional format this > > past > > spring. A master recently directed me to an energy that > > assists > > transitioning spirits. I want to study this energy next. I am > > > > hoping that it may help as much as the Shaman helped you and > > your > > brother. > > > > Thanks again for your words of comfort and hope... ~Danamarie > > > > > > > > _____ > doce lar. Faça do sua homepage. > http://br./homepageset.html > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2005 Report Share Posted December 31, 2005 Catholic by definition means " Universal " " all-inclusive " !!!! This was so from the very beginning of its inception as it absorb at lot of the pagan practices of those early years to shape many of its practices, like the use of artistic imagery to channel devotional fervor and natural harvesting cycles for celebrations which are typical of any agricultural society! What you see in Haiti is more of a dual/parallel religion and this is only possible because of the very Catholic nature of Catholism which makes it easy for almomst any anthropomorphic religion to identify with it. Domingo On 12/30/05, zenisis7 <findme wrote: > > You know Catholics seem to have had the most freedom in integrating > their folk religious traditions into the practice. You see this in > Haiti, in indigenous cultures in Latin America and so forth. I don't > know if this is by accident or by design. > > Zenisis > > Chinese Traditional Medicine , marcos <ishk18> wrote: > > > > > > Hello Danamarie, > > Well, the Catholic Christians have an old tradition of praying > > for the deceased at masses, and there are even whole orders of > > nuns and monks who basically pray for the dead every day, to > > alleviate their suffering(if in 'Purgatory', however one > > understands this; as a state or a place), and bring them Light > > and Peace. > > > > peace be with you, > > Marcos > > > > > > --- das4145 <asenat45@h...> escreveu: > > > > > Dear Jack & All, > > > > > > Many thanks for sharing your experience with your brother after > > > he > > > passed into another realm. This between-the-worlds seems to be > > > so > > > close but... so far. > > > > > > I will need to become more personal so you'll be able to > > > understand > > > my position. My husband is a devout christain - he would not > > > permit > > > me to see a " real " Shaman; and also, I could not in my right > > > mind do > > > this behind his back. It would be too difficult for me to live > > > our > > > marital life in peace and harmony with that kind of secret kept > > > from > > > him. In other words,... this would be crossing a line. > > > > > > My husband seems to be tolerating reiki - I began to study > > > Mikao > > > Usui Reiki/Shiki Ryoho the Japanese traditional format this > > > past > > > spring. A master recently directed me to an energy that > > > assists > > > transitioning spirits. I want to study this energy next. I am > > > > > > hoping that it may help as much as the Shaman helped you and > > > your > > > brother. > > > > > > Thanks again for your words of comfort and hope... ~Danamarie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > doce lar. Faça do sua homepage. > > http://br./homepageset.html > > > > > Post message: Chinese Traditional Medicine > Subscribe: Chinese Traditional Medicine- > Un: Chinese Traditional Medicine- > List owner: Chinese Traditional Medicine-owner > > Shortcut URL to this page: > /community/Chinese Traditional Medicine > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2005 Report Share Posted December 31, 2005 Domingo Pichardo <domingo4tao@g...> wrote: > Catholic by definition means " Universal " " all-inclusive " !!!! > > This was so from the very beginning of its inception as > it absorb at lot of the pagan practices of those early years > to shape many of its practices, No Domingo, don't fool yourself. Read history. Those practices slipped into Roman Catholicism because the local or imported from Africa enslaved peole were under threat of death or physical mutilation if they openly practiced their indigenous religions. <snip> > What you see in Haiti is more of a dual/parallel religion > and this is only possible because of the very Catholic > nature of Catholism which makes it easy for almomst > any anthropomorphic religion to identify with it. What happened in Haiti is a fine example of this??? They hid their Orishas behind the names of Catholic saints. If they'd worshiped their African concepts of the Divine publically they'd of been killed. Where the slave masters were French Catholics it is called Voudou. Where the slace masters were Spanish Catholics it was sometimes called Santeria. Btw, remember the " Spanish Inquisition " ? Many Jews were forced to become Catholics when that happened. There are some historians who postulate that the Italian explorer Christopher Columbus was born Jewish but pretended he was Catholic because he could live longer that way. To this day there's a tradition of hidden Judaism in Spain when people might publically attend church on Sunday but also burn their candles at home on Friday at sunset. Can we get back to a discussion of Chinese medicine now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2005 Report Share Posted December 31, 2005 That's very true what you say about Haiti, Domingo. Still not a convincing reply to my Jehovah's witness friend who likes to point out the pagan symbolism in the Pope's hat. Catholocism has its pluses and minuses but I definitely feel this is a plus. Protestantism, seems to want to smash everything that came before like a bludgeon, but that just isn't human nature. Domingo Pichardo wrote: >Catholic by definition means " Universal " " all-inclusive " !!!! > >This was so from the very beginning of its inception as it absorb at lot of >the pagan practices of those early years to shape many of its practices, >like the use of artistic imagery to channel devotional fervor and natural >harvesting cycles for celebrations which are typical of any agricultural >society! What you see in Haiti is more of a dual/parallel religion and this >is only possible because of the very Catholic nature of Catholism which >makes it easy for almomst any anthropomorphic religion to identify with it. > >Domingo > > >On 12/30/05, zenisis7 <findme wrote: > > >>You know Catholics seem to have had the most freedom in integrating >>their folk religious traditions into the practice. You see this in >>Haiti, in indigenous cultures in Latin America and so forth. I don't >>know if this is by accident or by design. >> >>Zenisis >> >>Chinese Traditional Medicine , marcos <ishk18> wrote: >> >> >>>Hello Danamarie, >>>Well, the Catholic Christians have an old tradition of praying >>>for the deceased at masses, and there are even whole orders of >>>nuns and monks who basically pray for the dead every day, to >>>alleviate their suffering(if in 'Purgatory', however one >>>understands this; as a state or a place), and bring them Light >>>and Peace. >>> >>>peace be with you, >>>Marcos >>> >>> >>>--- das4145 <asenat45@h...> escreveu: >>> >>> >>> >>>>Dear Jack & All, >>>> >>>>Many thanks for sharing your experience with your brother after >>>>he >>>>passed into another realm. This between-the-worlds seems to be >>>>so >>>>close but... so far. >>>> >>>>I will need to become more personal so you'll be able to >>>>understand >>>>my position. My husband is a devout christain - he would not >>>>permit >>>>me to see a " real " Shaman; and also, I could not in my right >>>>mind do >>>>this behind his back. It would be too difficult for me to live >>>>our >>>>marital life in peace and harmony with that kind of secret kept >>>>from >>>>him. In other words,... this would be crossing a line. >>>> >>>>My husband seems to be tolerating reiki - I began to study >>>>Mikao >>>>Usui Reiki/Shiki Ryoho the Japanese traditional format this >>>>past >>>>spring. A master recently directed me to an energy that >>>>assists >>>>transitioning spirits. I want to study this energy next. I am >>>> >>>>hoping that it may help as much as the Shaman helped you and >>>>your >>>>brother. >>>> >>>>Thanks again for your words of comfort and hope... ~Danamarie >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>_____ >>> doce lar. Faça do sua homepage. >>>http://br./homepageset.html >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Post message: Chinese Traditional Medicine >> Subscribe: Chinese Traditional Medicine- >> Un: Chinese Traditional Medicine- >> List owner: Chinese Traditional Medicine-owner >> >>Shortcut URL to this page: >> /community/Chinese Traditional Medicine >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2006 Report Share Posted January 1, 2006 <snip. > The truth is that all belief systems, including TCM are > but partial truths and it is not profitable to compare > them... just choose the one you best resonate with > and let others be! Domingo, Spirituality is a conversation between a person and their concept of the Divine. Religion is a conversation between a community of people about their mutually shared concepts about the Divine. In respect to that, TCM is an interpretation by designated communities (influenced most by Taoism and Confucianism) of phenomina that reflect understood, within those communities, qualities of energetic flow. To participate in any conversation it is not only necessary to understand the vocabulary used but also the context used within the culture using it. We aren't here to question or compare the truths of one theory over the other but to delve into a specific community of thought to see how it relates to our existance. or did you just say that? Happy Gregorian calendar New Year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2006 Report Share Posted January 2, 2006 This has been part of Catholic Christianity from the beginning, in the Roman Empire, it absorbed many elements from the religions already present there and 'Baptized' them, in a sense, giving 'Christian' names to gods, thereafter to be known as saints..., but this and much more was done by the people, and defined by lay people and priests who where raised in belief systems that continued to find expression in the new faith. As you pointed out, this happened in Haiti also, in Mexico, Brazil, and almost everywhere the Church went, often in spite of the official condemnation by the Bishops. --- zenisis7 <findme escreveu: > You know Catholics seem to have had the most freedom in > integrating > their folk religious traditions into the practice. You see > this in > Haiti, in indigenous cultures in Latin America and so forth. I > don't > know if this is by accident or by design. > > Zenisis > > Chinese Traditional Medicine , marcos <ishk18> > wrote: > > > > > > Hello Danamarie, > > Well, the Catholic Christians have an old tradition of > praying > > for the deceased at masses, and there are even whole orders > of > > nuns and monks who basically pray for the dead every day, to > > alleviate their suffering(if in 'Purgatory', however one > > understands this; as a state or a place), and bring them > Light > > and Peace. > > > > peace be with you, > > Marcos > > > > > > --- das4145 <asenat45@h...> escreveu: > > > > > Dear Jack & All, > > > > > > Many thanks for sharing your experience with your brother > after > > > he > > > passed into another realm. This between-the-worlds seems > to be > > > so > > > close but... so far. > > > > > > I will need to become more personal so you'll be able to > > > understand > > > my position. My husband is a devout christain - he would > not > > > permit > > > me to see a " real " Shaman; and also, I could not in my > right > > > mind do > > > this behind his back. It would be too difficult for me to > live > > > our > > > marital life in peace and harmony with that kind of secret > kept > > > from > > > him. In other words,... this would be crossing a line. > > > > > > My husband seems to be tolerating reiki - I began to study > > > Mikao > > > Usui Reiki/Shiki Ryoho the Japanese traditional format this > > > past > > > spring. A master recently directed me to an energy that > > > assists > > > transitioning spirits. I want to study this energy next. > I am > > > > > > hoping that it may help as much as the Shaman helped you > and > > > your > > > brother. > > > > > > Thanks again for your words of comfort and hope... > ~Danamarie > > > > > > > > _____ doce lar. Faça do sua homepage. http://br./homepageset.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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