Guest guest Posted November 9, 2005 Report Share Posted November 9, 2005 Chinese Traditional Medicine , " victoria_dragon " <victoria_dragon> wrote: > > One thing I should have pointed out in the previous post is that Cold > is not the only thing that can cause Qi to Stagnate. > > The number one cause of Liver Qi Stagnation is improperly handled > emotions - particularly anger, frustration, and resentment. > > Trauma to tissues (and bones) can cause Qi to Stagnate and Blood > Stasis. > > According to Giovanni Maciocia, Liver Blood Stasis always derives from > Liver Qi Stagnation. (Foundations, pp. 218-219.) If Liver Qi > Stagnation is not treated, eventually there will be Liver Blood Stasis > problems too. > Hi Victoria, thanks for your fine comments, I couldn't resist to add some... While we are at it let me list factors that lead to blood stasis: 1) external injury, surgery 2) cold congelation 3) heat (a collective term for warm-disease, heat-toxin, fire-evil etc) basic mechanisms in short short short words -heat scorching bodyfluids, thickening of blood-fluids -heat damaging vessels and meridians leading to an unsmooth blood flow -heat leading to erratic movement of blood (-out of the vessels, - improper flow through the organs etc) -heat leading to erratic movement of Qi, thus Qi stagnates -heat turns into toxic matter and congeals/intertransformchanges with blood leading to blood clots (in chinese textbooks each of these statements is usually backed up by several classic cites that comment the mechanism, the development of theories, commenting each other or describe special chinese characters in depth, a feature I miss in all english compilations I have seen so far. In China it is extremely unpolite and embarassing to show up others mistakes. Think about it. Add some Western 'barbarian' stubborn point of view and you got one more reason why we still only have parts of TCM knowledge. ...back to the list...) 4) Qi stagnation 5) Qi deficiency 6) blood deficiency 7) Yang deficiency 8) Yin deficiency 9) phlegm blockage 10) inner metabolic fluids (pus, edema, turbid phlegm etc) The chinese have short 4-8 characters sentences to remember the qualities of these mechanisms like: " deficiency might lead to stasis, long time stasis always develops deficiency " " blood stasis can easily transform into heat-toxin " " longlasting disease leads to blood stasis, longlasting blood stasis forms into tumors " " blood-syndroms often have stasis, vessel-stasis leads to blood pouring out " etc etc bye for now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2005 Report Share Posted November 9, 2005 In a message dated 11/8/2005 11:36:25 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, aajohansen writes: 4) Qi stagnation 5) Qi deficiency 6) blood deficiency 7) Yang deficiency 8) Yin deficiency 9) phlegm blockage 10) inner metabolic fluids (pus, edema, turbid phlegm etc) The chinese have short 4-8 characters sentences to remember the qualities of these mechanisms like: " deficiency might lead to stasis, long time stasis always develops deficiency " " blood stasis can easily transform into heat-toxin " " longlasting disease leads to blood stasis, longlasting blood stasis forms into tumors " " blood-syndromes often have stasis, vessel-stasis leads to blood pouring out " etc etc bye for now... these are great ways to learn and remember, could you continue the list please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2005 Report Share Posted November 9, 2005 off topic........what are some ways to deal with starvation edema? neophyte, Michelle - tayfx Chinese Traditional Medicine Tuesday, November 08, 2005 5:28 PM [Chinese Traditional Medicine] Re: Cold can manifest as ...blood stasis Chinese Traditional Medicine , " victoria_dragon " <victoria_dragon> wrote: > > One thing I should have pointed out in the previous post is that Cold > is not the only thing that can cause Qi to Stagnate. > > The number one cause of Liver Qi Stagnation is improperly handled > emotions - particularly anger, frustration, and resentment. > > Trauma to tissues (and bones) can cause Qi to Stagnate and Blood > Stasis. > > According to Giovanni Maciocia, Liver Blood Stasis always derives from > Liver Qi Stagnation. (Foundations, pp. 218-219.) If Liver Qi > Stagnation is not treated, eventually there will be Liver Blood Stasis > problems too. > Hi Victoria, thanks for your fine comments, I couldn't resist to add some... While we are at it let me list factors that lead to blood stasis: 1) external injury, surgery 2) cold congelation 3) heat (a collective term for warm-disease, heat-toxin, fire-evil etc) basic mechanisms in short short short words -heat scorching bodyfluids, thickening of blood-fluids -heat damaging vessels and meridians leading to an unsmooth blood flow -heat leading to erratic movement of blood (-out of the vessels, - improper flow through the organs etc) -heat leading to erratic movement of Qi, thus Qi stagnates -heat turns into toxic matter and congeals/intertransformchanges with blood leading to blood clots (in chinese textbooks each of these statements is usually backed up by several classic cites that comment the mechanism, the development of theories, commenting each other or describe special chinese characters in depth, a feature I miss in all english compilations I have seen so far. In China it is extremely unpolite and embarassing to show up others mistakes. Think about it. Add some Western 'barbarian' stubborn point of view and you got one more reason why we still only have parts of TCM knowledge. ...back to the list...) 4) Qi stagnation 5) Qi deficiency 6) blood deficiency 7) Yang deficiency 8) Yin deficiency 9) phlegm blockage 10) inner metabolic fluids (pus, edema, turbid phlegm etc) The chinese have short 4-8 characters sentences to remember the qualities of these mechanisms like: " deficiency might lead to stasis, long time stasis always develops deficiency " " blood stasis can easily transform into heat-toxin " " longlasting disease leads to blood stasis, longlasting blood stasis forms into tumors " " blood-syndroms often have stasis, vessel-stasis leads to blood pouring out " etc etc bye for now... Post message: Chinese Traditional Medicine Subscribe: Chinese Traditional Medicine- Un: Chinese Traditional Medicine- List owner: Chinese Traditional Medicine-owner Shortcut URL to this page: /community/Chinese Traditional Medicine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2005 Report Share Posted November 9, 2005 I am not asking as a student but as a wife of a cancer patient. Any help? Michelle - Remediesbyrabiah Chinese Traditional Medicine Tuesday, November 08, 2005 11:24 PM Re: [Chinese Traditional Medicine] Re: Cold can manifest as ...blood stasis In a message dated 11/8/2005 11:36:25 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, aajohansen writes: 4) Qi stagnation 5) Qi deficiency 6) blood deficiency 7) Yang deficiency 8) Yin deficiency 9) phlegm blockage 10) inner metabolic fluids (pus, edema, turbid phlegm etc) The chinese have short 4-8 characters sentences to remember the qualities of these mechanisms like: " deficiency might lead to stasis, long time stasis always develops deficiency " " blood stasis can easily transform into heat-toxin " " longlasting disease leads to blood stasis, longlasting blood stasis forms into tumors " " blood-syndromes often have stasis, vessel-stasis leads to blood pouring out " etc etc bye for now... these are great ways to learn and remember, could you continue the list please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2005 Report Share Posted November 16, 2005 > I am not asking as a student but as a wife of a cancer patient. Any help? > Michelle I am specialized in tumor/cancer therapy, never thought I would, but reading the vast amounts of experience TCM has with tumors I lost my fear and I transport that positive mind to my patients. Explaining what forces are effecting tumors build up and dissolve. -------------------- Fear damages the kidney. So does Chemo-therapy. Depression(, resignment, melancholy) damages the liver (so the blood looses it transportation-master.) Thinking in circles damages the spleen. ------------------------------ Biotechnologists worldwide are extracting antitumor chemical substances from chinese herbals like Indigo and Artemisia. http://www.nricm.edu.tw/jcm/015/15_d151.pdf ----- If you could specify your question a bit I might cite some sources. ------------------ oh, would that starving edema relate to cancer then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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