Guest guest Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 Jackie's post has brought up many important issues and I would like to go through the letter and comment a little on different individual points. " " " The following hypothesis ( of which there is supposedly some evidence) was recently pointed out to me, and aligns very much with many of the symptoms I have documented in horses, eg a depressing of FT4 levels when thyroxine is supplemented, as though the body was compensating to keep the metabolism lowered, dehydrated appearance to the skin, 'Lv and gut symptoms, summer anhydrosis etc. I could not think of a mechanism for this, but this seems to offer a faesable one - I wonder what your opinion would be Vinod? " " " For many years the Western medical community has felt that the reason why Temperatures remain low or an individual was hypometabolic even though the TSH and Free T4 remains normal is because of Autoimmune disease at the cellular level which is `interfering' with normal T4 and T3 functioning at the cellular level. This is a misunderstanding. The fact that explains many low energy production levels at the cellular level is the fact that the cells do not uptake the T4 unless needed and in depressed lethargic individuals there is little need for T4 hormone. So yes Jackie I agree that thyroid supplementation can cause the cells to compensate by refusing to uptake the supplemented T4 – it was already doing that with the bodies endogenous hormones – such individuals do not need more hormone they need reactivation of the muscles. Why the muscles have gone catabolic is a bigger issue and one I will only go into obliquely in following comments. In lethargic depressed individuals many processes become malfunctional simply because the muscles are beginning to atrophy from the catabolism - so many hormones are unneeded. The hormonal needs of an active anabolic based metabolism are very different from those of the catabolic metabolism. The proper functioning of the muscles which facilitates proper functioning of the brain and nervous system are what determines the vitality, balance, and proper functioning of the endocrine system. Why the muscles have gone catabolic and whether this is ultimately good or bad is a very big question and one I will not go much into here except obliquely as I try to comment on Jackie's other points. " " " The basic premise is mitochondrial malfunction leading to reduced ATP levels and thertefore heart muscle myopathy, leading to low cardiac output. I quote: This explains the symptoms of CFS The job of the heart is to maintain blood pressure. If the blood pressure falls, organs start to fail. If the heart is working inadequately as a pump then the only way blood pressure can be sustained is by shutting down blood supply to organs. Organs are shut down in terms of priority, i.e. the step in the process that is the immediate precursor to the heart issues you have referred toskin first, then muscles, followed by liver, gut, brain and finally the heart, lung and kidney. As these organ systems shut down, this creates further problems for the body in terms of toxic overload, susceptibility to viruses which damage mitochondria further, thus exacerbating all the problems of the CFS sufferer. It is very true that the heart is always involved in hypometabolic conditions and in a similar way that is being described – but – I would like to look at this issue in a broader perspective. I hope everyone remembers the sequence of the way in which the energy moves through the body according to TCM (this understanding has been observed by many throughout history not just the Chinese) – Spleen- Lungs-Kidneys-Liver-Heart-Spleen. Without going to `original' causes let us think about the step in the process that is the immediate precursor to the heart issues you have referred to as many of the processes you referred to actually begin there not in the heart – in fact the heart problems come from these same common issues of diminished `Liver' functioning' The major problem in this context is stagnation. When for whatever issue (perhaps Hypometabolism itself) the Liver functions become inefficient then we can be in serious jeopardy of breaking down in many of our most important functions leading to an inability to perform and live well. So let us look at some of these functions that go wrong in the Liver. I will be mixing western and TCM concepts. In TCM terms the two major functions of the Liver are storage of the Blood (Qi) and distribution of the Blood (Qi) – in stagnant states the Blood does not get stored because there is not free flow there and there is no room for the new blood coming from the kidneys – so blood passes through without the transformative (like transforming simple sugars into Glycogen) role of the Liver – and because of this stagnation the distribution role of the Liver is severely compromised – whenever any tissue needs energy (Qi) the Liver releases the Glycogen – the Heart is the first organ that receives this poorly cleaned and inadequately nourished blood – and it suffers deficit (heart Qi deficiency) this combined with the toxic condition of the blood at this step means the heart is under stress and is itself hypometabolic. The heart is not the `cause' but is itself suffering from many deficits coming from poor blood and this underfunctioning of the heart is a further contributing part of further deficiency states. The organ that will be harmed first will be the Spleen – is it clear how these processes of poor nutrition causes a cascade of diminished functioning throughout the body? So if the legs need blood (like when walking)- the blood coming to them from that stored in the Liver through the pumping Heart will be inadequately providing sugar and oxygen to the muscle cells – so we will quickly fatigue and in severe cases perhaps the low blood sugar will cause hypoglycemic symptoms – even weakness or fainting. We may have plenty of sugar in the blood (we are well nourished) but it has not been transformed by the Liver and or is it being provided in a timely manner where and when it is needed. This etiology is similar to what happens in Insulin resistance. One can see that combining the twin pathologies of inadequate or erratic energy production to the shut down of the receptor sites for hormones on the cells – means one is seriously compromised in ones ability to function. To fully explain this process we would have to describe the mechanism of depression as it relates to this poor energy release by the Liver – the hypoglycemic and hypometabolic condition is very harmful to every tissue but it can spiral into severe emotional and mental problems (neurosis and psychosis) if the brain and nervous systems are not properly nourished. This is true also of malnourishment of the Endocrine glands. In advanced cases this becomes a severe malfunction of the ANS (Autonomic Nervous System) – these deficiency states have caused an imbalance between the Sympathetic System and the Parasympathetic system. Because of this I think of the end state deficiency diseases – Like FM and CFS – as being the advanced Sympathetic disease. The Sympathetic system is in hyper mode and cannot relax – this is serious business. This is hyper reactivity a basic mechanism in the continuing exhaustion. " " " Effects on the Skin - If you shut down the blood supply to the skin, this has two main effects. The first is that the skin is responsible for controlling the temperature of the body. This means that CFS patients become intolerant of heat. If the body gets too hot then it cannot lose heat through the skin (because it has no blood supply) and the core temperature increases. The only way the body can compensate for this is by switching off the thyroid gland (which is responsible for the level of metabolic activity in the body and hence heat generation) and so one gets a compensatory under active thyroid. This alone worsens the problems of fatigue. The second problem is that if the micro-circulation in the skin is shut down, then the body cannot sweat. This is a major way through which toxins, particularly heavy metals, pesticides and volatile organic compounds are excreted. Therefore the CFS sufferer?s body is much better at accumulating toxins, which of course further damage mitochondria. " " " Many of these symptoms are simply a result of the hypometabolic state. In a large percentage of these cases there is nothing wrong with the thyroid gland (TSH,T3, T4) is normal – the problem is not in the thyroid – it is at the cellular level – the receptor sites are blocked (for the reason mentioned before). Diminished skin functioning has to do with the diminished circulation and phlegm (a very big issue in these cases). Actually in most cases of deficiency the heat is not collecting in the center or core the most common thing seen is cold in the center. There may be `false heat symptoms' but the cells are hypo so there is no question of true overheating. The blood may be `hot' from the acids but general metabolism is `cold'. The cells are rejecting the hormone because they do not need it. It is absolutely true that toxins play a very important role in many of the symptoms – and this is particularly true of nervous system and brain cells. Try to visualize the challenge that the `mind' has trying to function in a toxic, poorly nourished, inadequately oxygenated, hypometabolic environment and the many mental symptoms will be easy to understand. No wonder what deficiency or toxic states may be it can be devastating. " " " 2. Symptoms in Muscles If the blood supply to muscles is impaired, then muscles quickly run out of oxygen when one starts to exercise. With no oxygen in the muscles the cells switch over to anaerobic metabolism, which produces lactic acid and it is this that makes muscles ache so much. As well as the above problem, muscles in the CFS patient have very poor stamina because the mitochondria which supply them with energy are malfunctioning. " " " The issue of muscles as was said is central to understanding this issue – but it is not just poor heart function that makes the problem it is the Liver – by not providing properly nourished blood to the heart that gets pumped to the hungry cells – which has a hard time performing without proper nourishment and - in the presence of toxins besides. The mitochondrial issue is not exactly as you describe – but it is the hypometabolic state and the accumulation of toxic phlegm that is causing the malfunction of the mitochondria. The mitochondria are cells and suffer the same deficit that all other cells are suffering. But one poorly understood thing is the role that phlegm plays in these processes. When the mitochondria (forget for now the hypometabolic issue) are surrounded by phlegm – this simply blocks all metabolic processes at the cells – because nourishment can not get in - but just as important - toxins are trapped at the cell and do not move – these toxins poison the cells and further weaken their functions – so one can see that in the presence of phlegm many mitochondria simply do not function. Another serious problem. Most of what is called `Autoimmunity' is actually the body (immune system) trying to clear this phlegm – which often appears as a `mist' over the cells which is very harmful and very tenacious and difficult to move. Soon I would like to post an article on Phlegm its causes, harmful effects, and cure. " " " . Leaky gut syndrome causes many other problems such as allergies, autoimmunity, malabsorption, etc., which further compound the problems of CFS. " " " This needs a little expansion. Leaky gut is not an original cause – it is a cofactor in this process. Allergies, autoimmunity, malabsorption can exist with or without leaky gut. It is mainly the general hypometabolic state and the toxins (including the highly toxic Liver toxins) accumulating from this Hypometabolism that are causing most of these symptoms including Leaky gut – the intestines lose their permeability because of the highly toxic acidic condition of the bowels – if chronic constipation or diarrhea are involved then the condition of the intestines is very weak and toxic. If there is a general acidic condition of the blood (which there is in Hypometabolism) there are also possible inflammatory and infectious processes ((H-pylori-Candida-etc,) taking place which are damaging the lining of the Stomach and intestines " " " If liver circulation is inadequate, this will result in poor detoxification, not just of heavy metals, pesticides and volatile organic compounds, but also toxins produced as a result of fermentation in the gut again further poisoning the mitochondria. " " " Remember that the Liver is our front line defense against thousands of substances that have the ability to poison us. It is the job of the Liver to process every toxin that is not eliminated. We breathe, absorb, and ingest, thousands of substances daily – it is the job of the liver to transform these substances into forms that can be used or eliminated. Remember that we also produce thousands of chemicals in our metabolism that if not transformed and or eliminated poison us (peroxides, lactic acid) etc. When the liver is not performing it's functions we will get a build up of toxins - this is harmful in so many ways but most importantly it can destroy the kidneys which become exhausted trying to eliminate these built up toxic substances – all of the fluids are toxic and the fact of these acid fluids cause untold damage. Acid saliva, acid sweat, acid lymph, acid semen, acid tears, etc – are severe pathologies caused by the poor quality of the blood and the Hypometabolism – and these toxins further interfere with functioning at the local area. Jackie I once mentioned to you about allergies – this is a big subject – but the point I would like to make is that the toxic condition of the blood is the source of these `allergies'. You know that in classical TCM there is no such thing as `allergies' - yet they described all of the symptoms that we cal allergies but they look at the issue very differently from the modern MDs. This is a fascinating subject (Bob flaws has written an excellent article on it) but suffice it to say that in general these many imbalances in the ANS that are causing these hype reactive states are facilitated by the liver and other toxins circulating at high levels in the blood. This is not a simple issue because of variables like constitutional types – but `toxic state' may help you understand the symptoms =but the original problem in the case of your horse (like many humans as well) is first I believe a genetic tendency (coming through the mother if I remember correctly) – this meant your horse was born with a stress disorder - (research shows that 100%!!! Of all infants born of mothers suffering stress disorders also have stress disorders – in most cases this is not a true genetic disease – therefore in many it can be overcome – if the damage has not been to bad. This stress disorder left your horse at risk if he/she ever faced stress – the horse would have trouble recovering fully from stress – until eventually it might be possible that he never fully recovers and suffers increasing deficit. Three organs to examine in these cases is Spleen (digestion - including proper diet) – Kidneys – Liver. Any individual who faces erratic energy production will be inadequate to ordinary life what to say of special achievement. " " " 4. Effects on the Brain Last October I attended a conference sponsored by the late Dr John Richardson. A Canadian physician Byron Hyde showed us some functional scans of the brains of CFS patients. If I had not known the diagnosis, I would have diagnosed strokes. This is because the blood supply to some area of the brain was so impaired. The default is temporary and with rest, blood supply recovers. However, this explains the multiplicity of brain symptoms suffered from, such as poor short-term memory, difficulty multi-tasking, slow mental processing and so on. Furthermore brain cells are not particularly well stocked with mitochondria and therefore they run out of energy very quickly. " " " This also mainly has to do with the hypometabolic issues described – what is being observed is the erratic energy production. The same `hot' and `cold' picture would be observed in all of the other organs as well because of the blockages and poor circulation combined with the low Qi delivery and production at individual sites. In any given organ we might have relatively normal energy production, poor energy production, and excess heat (from inflammatory processes) taking place at different places in the organ. ATP (Qi) production in such people is obviously inadequate to `normal' demand. All of these normal functions mentioned (memory, tasking, etc.) will be compromised in many different ways not just the one described but by this and other causes of poor Qi production. If we do not have sufficient nourishing Qi in the blood to be delivered to the cells then obviously they will under function. " " " 5. Effects on the Heart There are two effects on the heart. The first effect of poor micro-circulation to the heart is disturbance of the electrical conductivity which causes dysrhythmias. " " " Irregularities in the electrical conductivity of the heart are explained by the ANS imbalance. As said none of these factors are causes they are cofactors. " " " Many patients with chronic fatigue syndrome complain of palpitations, missed heart beats or whatever. This is particularly the case in patients with poisoning by chemicals since the chemicals are also directly toxic to nerve cells. " " " It was mentioned how damaging these toxins are!!!! This is important and should be clearly understood. " " " The second obvious result is poor exercise tolerance. Heart muscle fatigues in just the same way that other muscles fatigue. Symptomatically this causes chest pain and fatigue. In the longer term it can cause heart valve defects because the muscles which normally hold the mitral valve open also fatigue. " " " Yes poisons – poison!!! And they must be eliminated as efficiently and timely as possible – but if our organs of transformation and elimination are not working – then obviously we will not do this well and furthermore these toxins will continue to build up and further stress ALL!!!! Organs. One point that gets missed in Liver stagnation is that the liver is responsible for the management and transformation of the hormones (example Testosterone and or IGF-1) without efficient transformation of these hormones the muscles (remember the heart is a muscle) do not function properly. As an example it is the Liver that is responsible for the conversion of IGF-1 and Growth Hormone – without this function the cells do not receive growth hormone and therefore muscles are under functioning – same with Testosterone - which is also responsible for proper bone functioning as well as muscle – so many with Liver stagnation have osteoporosis and other bone weaknesses. The primary cause of CFS is Kidney deficiency (Yin and or Yang) and Liver stagnation (with Qi deficient damp heat). We simply are not producing, distributing (assimilating), or utilizing our Qi – so there is less or erratic energy. This lacking can be relatively limited or it can be severe under functioning – disturbing every function of the body – creating a host of difficult symptoms (difficult to understand and difficult to resolve). Having said this remember that the Spleen/stomach are the true source of the inadequate Kidney support that is needed. One can go on for long time on this issue – but I will leave it and hope to clarify issues further at another time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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