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Hi. I'm new to this group, just found it today. I live on an island

near Honduras and there are no acupuncturists here. However, I just

returned from the Florida, where I am originally from. I had been sick

and was diagnosed with Colon Inertia after tests, including

colonoscopy and sitzmarker xrays. I have no peristalis movement at

all. I tried medical drugs and when they didn't work, surgery was

suggested.

 

As an alternative, I went to a Chinese GI doctor in FL for acupuncture

and herbal remedies (for 5 weeks). He seemed to be helping me while I

was there. He mixed me his own formula of herbs and they had me going.

However, he mixed me a batch to bring back to Honduras with me, and I

returned last week, but the herbs aren't working. It seems to be a

stronger formula and just give me runs. I'm playing with the dosages

right now.

 

Does anyone have any suggestions on what I should do? Has anyone heard

of TCM helping someone with my problem - No peristalis action at all?

I'm at a loss on what to do now. I like my colon and don't really

want to part with it. Are there other solutions? Any advice and

comments would be greatly appreciated.

Regards,

Marcia

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Chinese Traditional Medicine , " castaways01 "

<castaways01> wrote:

>

> As an alternative, I went to a Chinese GI doctor in FL for

acupuncture

> and herbal remedies (for 5 weeks). He seemed to be helping me while

I

> was there. He mixed me his own formula of herbs and they had me

going.

> However, he mixed me a batch to bring back to Honduras with me, and

I

> returned last week, but the herbs aren't working. It seems to be a

> stronger formula and just give me runs. I'm playing with the dosages

> right now.

 

Do you know your TCM diagnosis and the herbs that he gave? Having that

information will help a lot. The same medical problem can have

different underlying TCM imbalances. That's why what helps one person

may do nothing for a second and even hurt a third. The disease/

condition is the same, but the underlying TCM imbalances are different.

 

Have you ever had an injury to the bottom of the spine? Please give

details on other health problems. Do you sweat excedssively. Any

numbness in the butt?

 

Acupuncture is not the only way to affect Qi flow. Acupressure and

massage also can be very helpful. This is something that can be done

on oneself.

 

Usually one is seen by a TCM healer regularly for follow-up (until the

problem is resolved). The reason for this is because the clinical

picture changes, and treatment has to be adjusted accordingly. But

that's not possible in your case. There's also the possibility that a

formula which was correct for you in Florida is not correct in

Honduras. Is the weather very different where you're at than it was in

Florida? (Yes, changing location can result in a change in the

person's needs. So can the changing seasons. Even slight changes in

season or climate for some people who are sensitive. Or, when people

change locales, there may be a change in diet which also helps or

aggravates problems.)

 

One herb that specifically increases peritalsis is cayenne. But

people need to be careful in taking cayenne because it will scatter

and deplete Qi. If there is an underlying imbalance of Qi Deficiency

causing the colonic inertia, in the long-run cayenne can make the

problem worse unless the Qi Deficiency also is addressed.

 

Cayenne worked best for me when I combined it with food. I made

homemade chili made with red kidney beans, hamburger (or any beef),

onions, and tomatoes served with brown rice. Keep in mind that part of

my underlying TCM imbalances is that I tend to be too Cold. For

someone who is too Hot, this could make problems worse.

 

Some people get very good results from cayenne taken in capsules. But

taking it with food works better for me. It depends on the individual.

 

Dosage can be a problem, so working with finetuning the dosage is a

good idea.

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Thank you for your insight, I greatly appreciate it. Yes, I had a

lower disc injury years ago and there is nerve damage in my left

foot - I have a " drop foot " , as a result of the surgery. I have been

reliant on laxatives over the last several years and they may have

damaged my colon muscles. Yes, I tend to be warm all the time, not

cold.

 

When I asked Dr. Haihe Tian what he was mixing for me, he said it

was many different herbs and he was changes them often bbased on

where I am with treatment. I went to him for 5 weeks and among the

herbs during the first visit were: su geng, xiang fu, ya tin, xiang

yuan, fu shu, zhi ke, da fu pi, shan zha and hu zhang.

 

The weather here: It is much warmer here than in FLorida is the

rainy season so its rained almost continually.

 

How would I find out how to do the self massage? Is there a website

somewhere that would show where to do it. I am doing colon massage

clockwise like Dr Tian showed me.

 

I was told there was a TCM doctor on the mainland Honduras and I am

trying to locate him for followup. It means I will have to take a

plane trip for each visit, but if he can help me, it may be worth

the effort. This is a scuba diving resort island and there are no

herbs here. They may have cayenne though.

 

I've gone back to just eating liquids and soft foods so they will

flow through me more easily.

Marcia

 

 

 

Chinese Traditional Medicine , " victoria_dragon "

<victoria_dragon> wrote:

>

> Chinese Traditional Medicine , " castaways01 "

> <castaways01> wrote:

> >

> > As an alternative, I went to a Chinese GI doctor in FL for

> acupuncture

> > and herbal remedies (for 5 weeks). He seemed to be helping me

while

> I

> > was there. He mixed me his own formula of herbs and they had me

> going.

> > However, he mixed me a batch to bring back to Honduras with me,

and

> I

> > returned last week, but the herbs aren't working. It seems to be

a

> > stronger formula and just give me runs. I'm playing with the

dosages

> > right now.

>

> Do you know your TCM diagnosis and the herbs that he gave? Having

that

> information will help a lot. The same medical problem can have

> different underlying TCM imbalances. That's why what helps one

person

> may do nothing for a second and even hurt a third. The disease/

> condition is the same, but the underlying TCM imbalances are

different.

>

> Have you ever had an injury to the bottom of the spine? Please

give

> details on other health problems. Do you sweat excedssively. Any

> numbness in the butt?

>

> Acupuncture is not the only way to affect Qi flow. Acupressure

and

> massage also can be very helpful. This is something that can be

done

> on oneself.

>

> Usually one is seen by a TCM healer regularly for follow-up (until

the

> problem is resolved). The reason for this is because the clinical

> picture changes, and treatment has to be adjusted accordingly.

But

> that's not possible in your case. There's also the possibility

that a

> formula which was correct for you in Florida is not correct in

> Honduras. Is the weather very different where you're at than it

was in

> Florida? (Yes, changing location can result in a change in the

> person's needs. So can the changing seasons. Even slight changes

in

> season or climate for some people who are sensitive. Or, when

people

> change locales, there may be a change in diet which also helps or

> aggravates problems.)

>

> One herb that specifically increases peritalsis is cayenne. But

> people need to be careful in taking cayenne because it will

scatter

> and deplete Qi. If there is an underlying imbalance of Qi

Deficiency

> causing the colonic inertia, in the long-run cayenne can make the

> problem worse unless the Qi Deficiency also is addressed.

>

> Cayenne worked best for me when I combined it with food. I made

> homemade chili made with red kidney beans, hamburger (or any

beef),

> onions, and tomatoes served with brown rice. Keep in mind that

part of

> my underlying TCM imbalances is that I tend to be too Cold. For

> someone who is too Hot, this could make problems worse.

>

> Some people get very good results from cayenne taken in capsules.

But

> taking it with food works better for me. It depends on the

individual.

>

> Dosage can be a problem, so working with finetuning the dosage is

a

> good idea.

>

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There is a great book I found helpful " acupressure's potent points " by michael

reed gach. It explains things in simple terms and was helpful for me to

understand where the pressure points are.

 

castaways01 <castaways01 wrote:Thank you for your insight, I greatly

appreciate it. Yes, I had a

lower disc injury years ago and there is nerve damage in my left

foot - I have a " drop foot " , as a result of the surgery. I have been

reliant on laxatives over the last several years and they may have

damaged my colon muscles. Yes, I tend to be warm all the time, not

cold.

 

When I asked Dr. Haihe Tian what he was mixing for me, he said it

was many different herbs and he was changes them often bbased on

where I am with treatment. I went to him for 5 weeks and among the

herbs during the first visit were: su geng, xiang fu, ya tin, xiang

yuan, fu shu, zhi ke, da fu pi, shan zha and hu zhang.

 

The weather here: It is much warmer here than in FLorida is the

rainy season so its rained almost continually.

 

How would I find out how to do the self massage? Is there a website

somewhere that would show where to do it. I am doing colon massage

clockwise like Dr Tian showed me.

 

I was told there was a TCM doctor on the mainland Honduras and I am

trying to locate him for followup. It means I will have to take a

plane trip for each visit, but if he can help me, it may be worth

the effort. This is a scuba diving resort island and there are no

herbs here. They may have cayenne though.

 

I've gone back to just eating liquids and soft foods so they will

flow through me more easily.

Marcia

 

 

 

Chinese Traditional Medicine , " victoria_dragon "

<victoria_dragon> wrote:

>

> Chinese Traditional Medicine , " castaways01 "

> <castaways01> wrote:

> >

> > As an alternative, I went to a Chinese GI doctor in FL for

> acupuncture

> > and herbal remedies (for 5 weeks). He seemed to be helping me

while

> I

> > was there. He mixed me his own formula of herbs and they had me

> going.

> > However, he mixed me a batch to bring back to Honduras with me,

and

> I

> > returned last week, but the herbs aren't working. It seems to be

a

> > stronger formula and just give me runs. I'm playing with the

dosages

> > right now.

>

> Do you know your TCM diagnosis and the herbs that he gave? Having

that

> information will help a lot. The same medical problem can have

> different underlying TCM imbalances. That's why what helps one

person

> may do nothing for a second and even hurt a third. The disease/

> condition is the same, but the underlying TCM imbalances are

different.

>

> Have you ever had an injury to the bottom of the spine? Please

give

> details on other health problems. Do you sweat excedssively. Any

> numbness in the butt?

>

> Acupuncture is not the only way to affect Qi flow. Acupressure

and

> massage also can be very helpful. This is something that can be

done

> on oneself.

>

> Usually one is seen by a TCM healer regularly for follow-up (until

the

> problem is resolved). The reason for this is because the clinical

> picture changes, and treatment has to be adjusted accordingly.

But

> that's not possible in your case. There's also the possibility

that a

> formula which was correct for you in Florida is not correct in

> Honduras. Is the weather very different where you're at than it

was in

> Florida? (Yes, changing location can result in a change in the

> person's needs. So can the changing seasons. Even slight changes

in

> season or climate for some people who are sensitive. Or, when

people

> change locales, there may be a change in diet which also helps or

> aggravates problems.)

>

> One herb that specifically increases peritalsis is cayenne. But

> people need to be careful in taking cayenne because it will

scatter

> and deplete Qi. If there is an underlying imbalance of Qi

Deficiency

> causing the colonic inertia, in the long-run cayenne can make the

> problem worse unless the Qi Deficiency also is addressed.

>

> Cayenne worked best for me when I combined it with food. I made

> homemade chili made with red kidney beans, hamburger (or any

beef),

> onions, and tomatoes served with brown rice. Keep in mind that

part of

> my underlying TCM imbalances is that I tend to be too Cold. For

> someone who is too Hot, this could make problems worse.

>

> Some people get very good results from cayenne taken in capsules.

But

> taking it with food works better for me. It depends on the

individual.

>

> Dosage can be a problem, so working with finetuning the dosage is

a

> good idea.

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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