Guest guest Posted October 4, 2005 Report Share Posted October 4, 2005 This is something I've talked about before on here, but I want to mention it again. It's recently been driven home to me again just how critical this can be in treating some long-term or severe health problems. In text books students learn that Cold (be it caused by not enough Yang to warm the body propery (Deficiency Cold) or Excess Cold) manifests as not being thirsty very much or very often and preferring hot liquids like soup when one is. Heat is described as being thirsty a lot with a desire for cold drinks. (The Heat can be Deficiency Heat (not enough Yin to cool the body properly) or Excess Heat (caused by consuming too many foods or herbs with warming energy, invasion of Heat from the environment, etc.) Textbooks describe one of the possible symptoms of Dampness as an aversion to drinking liquids. What I want to emphasize is that Cold ALSO can result not just in a lack of feeling thirsty but an aversion to drinking liquids. This can be very important in terms of successful treatment and client compliance. When an aversion to drinking liquids results from Dampness, the cause is the obvious reluctance to add more liquid to a body which already is too Damp. When it results from Cold, the aversion is caused by the fact that even a couple of sips of room-temperature water can chill an already too Cold body further. Sometimes even lukewarm or warm or even hot water can trigger this reaction because even though the temperature of the water is high when it enters the mouth, there is nothing in the water that will continue to heat the body once that heat has dissipated, and the water will then act to cool the body further. On the other hand, soups frequently will contain components that will continue to work to add Heat to the body. There is a reason why texts describe the symptoms of Cold as " not feeling thirsty very often and preferring hot liquids LIKE SOUP when one does drink " . When both Dampness and Cold are present, the aversion to drinking liquids can be extremely strong. AND eventually, Dryness problems will start to develop. If Dampness had been present (and this is likely for a variety of reasons), the clinical picture is now one of mixed Dampness and Dryness. This can difficult to treat, and compliance problems are very likely because of that very strong aversion to drinking liquids. What results when a client no longer drinks as much as he or she needs to is dehydration. And that brings even more problems to the client from both a Western and a TCM standpoint. (Like Phlegm from a TCM standpoint.) Compliance in these cases can be very difficult when the client is a human. In the case of a human, one can explain what is happening, and the human can decide to force him or herself to drink. Once the person experiences relief from the various symptoms of dehydration a few times after forcing oneself to drink, compliance gets better. But I want to stress that even in cases where the client knows what is going on and has experienced relief from the dehydration symptoms numerous times after forcing him/herself to drink, compliance is still going to be somewhat iffy simply because the aversion to drinking is so strong. Compliance can be difficult when the client is a human. When the client is an animal, compliance can be next to impossible. It's very, very difficult for most people to convey to an animal just how important it is that the animal move beyond the instinct not to drink and force him/herself to drink. A note to the healthcare professions - including veterinarians - on the list: When a person or animal has a below normal body temperature, eventually you are going to see the sequence of refusing to drink leading to dehydration eventually leading to death. The lower the body temperature, the more severe the symptoms. IVs will provide temporary, emergency help, but eventually one will have to address the Cold problems. Resolve the Cold problems, and the human or animal will start to drink normally again. TCM emphasizes treating the Roots of problems, not just symptoms. IVs temporarily will take care of the symptoms of dehydration and dehydration, but they will not address the Root(s) of the dehydration. Eventually Roots will have to be addressed. In the case of Cold, this includes warming the Interior of the body. If there is Yang Deficiency (which is highly likely), this includes supplementing Yang with Yang tonic herbs and/or moxibustion in acupuncture. A SPECIAL NOTE TO THOSE TAKING CARE OF ANIMALS: Just because an herb or other healing substance is safe for humans, this does NOT mean that it is safe for other animals. A substance can be safe for humans but toxic for dogs and cats and some other animals. For example, chocolate is toxic to both dogs and cats. There is a very long list of substances that are safe for other species but not safe for cats. So you want to be particularly careful if the animal is a cat. If treating an animal, one will need to thoroughly research if a particular substance is safe to use for that animal. I can't stress this enough. If in doubt, DO NOT USE. A note for healthcare professionals who treat humans: If a person has a low body temperature and/or dehydration symptoms, don't rely on asking the person if s/he is drinking enough. Ask the person how much s/he is drinking per day. Make sure the person knows about the possibility of dehydration and at least some of the symptoms. The reason for asking how much the person is drinking per day as opposed to asking if the person is drinking enough per day is that a lot of people equate drinking when thirsty with getting enough liquid. The problem is this group of patients is not feeling thirsty when they should be feeling thirsty and have an aversion to drinking unless they are feeling thirsty. They literally can go from 7 am in the morning to 7 pm at night without drinking anything, and then think they're drinking enough because they drank when they felt some thirst. Again, the lower the body temperature, the more severe the lack of thirst and the more severe the aversion to drinking. Another note: Yang Deficiency doesn't always manifest with a lower than normal body temperature, but eventually it will. If the Yang Deficiency and Cold problems have gone on for sometime, it may take a while to restore body temperature to normal and for the person to have a normal sense of thirst. In fact, be prepared that Kidney Yang Deficiency can take a long time to treat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2005 Report Share Posted October 22, 2005 Victoria has written an informative article on cold and liquids. I have often been asked 'what is the best thing i can do to improve my health?' - my answer is never eat or drink anything cold if one has disease processes. Because of the sensitivity of the stomach to cold then cold should be avoided at all costs - even in excess heat conditions. Cold here means cold in temperature and cold in energetics. It can also mean cold in feeling which is not true cold but false cold - this is a different symptom with different etiology but the issues are similar and cold should be avoided. There is a famous Indian Yogi who recommends to all who come to him for advise to only eat freshly cooked warm food and only drink warm water. there is great understanding in this teaching but many miss it because they do not understand the absolute harm that cold substances have done to human beings. I hope everyone will take what Victoria has written to heart it is vitally important. The issue of cold damage is one of the least understood medical concepts but is actually one of the most important. If you have aversion to fluids then by all means avoid all cold substances and do not force yourself to drink fluids. The western concept of drinking large amounts of water to clear toxins from the body is like many western concepts - only partially true. True in the sense that water can be profitably used as a theraputic modality but for a very few cases - certainly not for most - in fact all suffering from Kidney weakness should drink very little extra fluids. This is a contraindicated therapy for most as most suffer from Spleen and Kidney disorders that preclude flooding the body with fluids - this would be very harmful. Better way to remove toxins is to strengthen and balance Spleen functions and raise the Qi and Yang this will redistrubte the fluids and improve digestion. In most cases there is a combination of hot and cold symptoms - dry and damp - etc. this implys that simple flooding the body with fluids to thin the blood and lymph and flush the toxins through the kidneys is a simplistic understanding that will not work for most - in fact it can cause great harm. Especially do not drink large amounts of fluids with food - this is very harmful to digestion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2005 Report Share Posted October 22, 2005 Chinese Traditional Medicine , " Vinod Kumar " <vinod3x3> wrote: > If you have aversion to fluids then by all means avoid all cold > substances and do not force yourself to drink fluids. The western > concept of drinking large amounts of water to clear toxins from the > body is like many western concepts - only partially true. True in the > sense that water can be profitably used as a theraputic modality but > for a very few cases - certainly not for most - in fact all suffering > from Kidney weakness should drink very little extra fluids. This is a > contraindicated therapy for most as most suffer from Spleen and Kidney > disorders that preclude flooding the body with fluids - this would be > very harmful. I was one of the cases where it was necessary to force myself to drink because otherwise I was having more health problems and ending up in the emergency room because of dehydration. Also, it was extremely difficult for lab techs to draw blood from me because blood volume was so low. The lack of feeling thirsty when I should have been thristy and the aversion to liquids was so bad that I sometimes would go over 12 hours without drinking anything. I don't think I ever tried to drink anything cold during that time. Room temperature water made me feel colder. The only time I really liked something liquid was hot soups. It was a nurse who realized what was going on. Doctors in ER had asked me if I was drinking enough, and I'd tell them yes because I was drinking when I felt thirsty. I honestly didn't realize that my thirst mechanism was so messed up. Anyway, one day I had a doctor's appointment. When the nurse who took my vital signs asked me how I felt, I felt so bad that day that I blurted out that I felt like ####. She said I looked like I was dehydrated, and she did some tests which included taking my blood pressure standing up and lying down. Then she led me out to the water cooler, handed me a paper cup, and told me to drink until I felt better. I was skeptical, but I forced myself to drink. To my great surprise, after a while of drinking, the nausea and some other things started easing though I still felt weak. She taught me the signs of dehydration since I couldn't go by feeling thirsty. At first I only forced myself to drink when the symptoms had started to appear. Then I figured why wait, it would be better to go ahead and force myself to drink so I could avoid the symptoms. As time went on, it got a little easier to force myself to drink though it was still hard. Eventually I saw a TCM herbalist, and as I began to warm up, my sense of thirst gradually got better. One of the big healing milestones for me was the eventual return of a more normal sense of thirst. Sometimes I still have a tendency to feel an aversion to drinking. Usually at the very time when I most need to be drinking something. Like after I've sweated a lot. (Note to those new to TCM: Excessive sweating during the day not only is a symptom of Qi Deficiency, sweating further depletes Qi. Qi is warming in nature.) Even though my worst problem from a TCM standpoint was Kidney Yang Deficiency, it was necessary that I force myself to drink. So I can't agree that everyone suffering from Kidney Deficiency shouldn't force themselves to drink. BUT, I want to stress that in my case it wasn't a matter of forcing myself to drink in order to flush toxins but forcing myself to drink the bare minimum needed for bodily processes. And it was often difficult to get even the bare minimum into me. For those new to TCM, not feeling thirsty and prefering hot soups when one does drink are symptoms of Kidney Yang Deficiency. So is the feeling cold a lot and having trouble warming up. (Even a sip of room temperature water would make me feel older.) Another common symptom of Kidney Yang Deficiency is that the person often tends to produce large amounts of clear urine. This was a further complication for me. When I did force myself to drink, it tended to go right through me. After seeing the TCM herbalist, I did discover something that was easier to me to drink than most things were. Hot ginger tea. It not only made me feel warmer, it made me feel better overall, including feeling more energized. I still had trouble getting enough liquids into me, but the ginger tea made it easier than it had been. (Even though dried ginger is classified as an herb to warm the Interior and not as a Qi tonic or Yang tonic herb, it worked indirectly to produce more energy. Both the Kidneys and the Spleen are hurt by Cold. Cold also damages Yang. With the tea made from dried ginger warming my Interior, the Kidneys and Spleen were better able to play their roles in providing Yang to the body (Kidneys) and accumulating Qi. I also had more Yang because it wasn't being damaged as much as it had been. Also, one of the effects of Cold is that it slows things down. TCM students on the list may want to review what vinod wrote about the importance of improving Spleen function in these cases. Think about this from the viewpoint of what the Spleen is most vulnerable to: Dampness and Cold (in that order). Think about other things that can harm the Spleen. Overwork, obsessing, eating at irregular times, eating on the run, eating when upset, not eating enough, eating too much, eating inappropriate things for a person who has a weak Spleen (for example dairy and wheat which engender Dampness and weaken the Spleen), etc.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2005 Report Share Posted October 22, 2005 Victoria, just curious if you got the email i sent to you a while back as i never got a reply? thanks barry victoria_dragon <victoria_dragon wrote: Chinese Traditional Medicine , " Vinod Kumar " <vinod3x3> wrote: > If you have aversion to fluids then by all means avoid all cold > substances and do not force yourself to drink fluids. The western > concept of drinking large amounts of water to clear toxins from the > body is like many western concepts - only partially true. True in the > sense that water can be profitably used as a theraputic modality but > for a very few cases - certainly not for most - in fact all suffering > from Kidney weakness should drink very little extra fluids. This is a > contraindicated therapy for most as most suffer from Spleen and Kidney > disorders that preclude flooding the body with fluids - this would be > very harmful. I was one of the cases where it was necessary to force myself to drink because otherwise I was having more health problems and ending up in the emergency room because of dehydration. Also, it was extremely difficult for lab techs to draw blood from me because blood volume was so low. The lack of feeling thirsty when I should have been thristy and the aversion to liquids was so bad that I sometimes would go over 12 hours without drinking anything. I don't think I ever tried to drink anything cold during that time. Room temperature water made me feel colder. The only time I really liked something liquid was hot soups. It was a nurse who realized what was going on. Doctors in ER had asked me if I was drinking enough, and I'd tell them yes because I was drinking when I felt thirsty. I honestly didn't realize that my thirst mechanism was so messed up. Anyway, one day I had a doctor's appointment. When the nurse who took my vital signs asked me how I felt, I felt so bad that day that I blurted out that I felt like ####. She said I looked like I was dehydrated, and she did some tests which included taking my blood pressure standing up and lying down. Then she led me out to the water cooler, handed me a paper cup, and told me to drink until I felt better. I was skeptical, but I forced myself to drink. To my great surprise, after a while of drinking, the nausea and some other things started easing though I still felt weak. She taught me the signs of dehydration since I couldn't go by feeling thirsty. At first I only forced myself to drink when the symptoms had started to appear. Then I figured why wait, it would be better to go ahead and force myself to drink so I could avoid the symptoms. As time went on, it got a little easier to force myself to drink though it was still hard. Eventually I saw a TCM herbalist, and as I began to warm up, my sense of thirst gradually got better. One of the big healing milestones for me was the eventual return of a more normal sense of thirst. Sometimes I still have a tendency to feel an aversion to drinking. Usually at the very time when I most need to be drinking something. Like after I've sweated a lot. (Note to those new to TCM: Excessive sweating during the day not only is a symptom of Qi Deficiency, sweating further depletes Qi. Qi is warming in nature.) Even though my worst problem from a TCM standpoint was Kidney Yang Deficiency, it was necessary that I force myself to drink. So I can't agree that everyone suffering from Kidney Deficiency shouldn't force themselves to drink. BUT, I want to stress that in my case it wasn't a matter of forcing myself to drink in order to flush toxins but forcing myself to drink the bare minimum needed for bodily processes. And it was often difficult to get even the bare minimum into me. For those new to TCM, not feeling thirsty and prefering hot soups when one does drink are symptoms of Kidney Yang Deficiency. So is the feeling cold a lot and having trouble warming up. (Even a sip of room temperature water would make me feel older.) Another common symptom of Kidney Yang Deficiency is that the person often tends to produce large amounts of clear urine. This was a further complication for me. When I did force myself to drink, it tended to go right through me. After seeing the TCM herbalist, I did discover something that was easier to me to drink than most things were. Hot ginger tea. It not only made me feel warmer, it made me feel better overall, including feeling more energized. I still had trouble getting enough liquids into me, but the ginger tea made it easier than it had been. (Even though dried ginger is classified as an herb to warm the Interior and not as a Qi tonic or Yang tonic herb, it worked indirectly to produce more energy. Both the Kidneys and the Spleen are hurt by Cold. Cold also damages Yang. With the tea made from dried ginger warming my Interior, the Kidneys and Spleen were better able to play their roles in providing Yang to the body (Kidneys) and accumulating Qi. I also had more Yang because it wasn't being damaged as much as it had been. Also, one of the effects of Cold is that it slows things down. TCM students on the list may want to review what vinod wrote about the importance of improving Spleen function in these cases. Think about this from the viewpoint of what the Spleen is most vulnerable to: Dampness and Cold (in that order). Think about other things that can harm the Spleen. Overwork, obsessing, eating at irregular times, eating on the run, eating when upset, not eating enough, eating too much, eating inappropriate things for a person who has a weak Spleen (for example dairy and wheat which engender Dampness and weaken the Spleen), etc.) Post message: Chinese Traditional Medicine Subscribe: Chinese Traditional Medicine- Un: Chinese Traditional Medicine- List owner: Chinese Traditional Medicine-owner Shortcut URL to this page: /community/Chinese Traditional Medicine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 Recently Victoria and I posted letters concerning drinking water as a therapeutic modality for dehydration. I was suggesting that those with Kidney and Spleen problems should avoid drinking extra water – Victoria gave her personal experience of how she at one time suffered from severe dehydration yet was strongly adverse to fluids – forcing fluids proved to be helpful in her case. Is this a contradiction? No – let's look at another type of situation that demonstrates the point. For many years the standard advise for those suffering hypoglycemicsymptoms was to take a soft drink like coke or a candy bar to provide large amounts of rapidly digesting sugar. Doing this relieves the symptoms of hypoglycemia in a very short time. What was not understood is that one of the reasons for the development of hypoglycemia is eating rapidly digesting carbohydrates to begin with. Most important is that taking rapidly digesting carbs in no way cures hypoglycemia it only relieves the symptoms – temporarily – BUT – it is also stressful to the spleen and the kidneys - and since it causes acid (false fire) – the overheating symptoms are over time made worse – but the worst effect overtime is that this flooding the body with sugar is setting the body up for development of Insulin Rsistance and Diabetes. The scenario that Victoria describes about her dehydration experience is in this category. Without knowing the details of Victoria's case let us look at some ordinary pathologies that many people have in modern society. Often one sees hypometabolic individuals who have various deficiencies and excesses mixed. Sometimes the people are soft and overweight and the fluids are distributed improperly around the body – an example are those people with ascites (potbelly) and maybe sagging breasts (men and women) and heavy hips – but perhaps the legs are thin and underdeveloped – under examination the muscles which are soft and lax are also full of fluids – women often are carrying this excess fluid around their hips and midsection (depending on body type the breasts will be either swollen or dehydrated and sagging) – these patients are highly acidic and the tissues are holding the fluids to help to protect them from the acid toxins – so many tissues of the body may be waterlogged but the excess heat that is building (where ever there is stagnation of fluids then acid conditions accumulate because of stagnation – this is `stagnant damp heat'- this heat is driving the fluids from the blood and phlegm is forming – The reason why the blood is becoming thick and non-active is because of the formation of phlegm – one way to visualize this is to think of the chemical effect of putting an acid in milk – we get curdling – the proteins `clump' or adhere (agglutinate) to each other when these clumped proteins interact with carbohydrates glycation takes place – which creates a thick sticky substance that is difficult to breakup – this is phlegm, or mucus, in Ayurveda this is called Ama – this substance thickens the blood and interferes with many vital functions (in hypometabolic people phlegm is devastating and causes a host of serious symptoms – including blockages and sclerosis). These patients in other words are suffering from both deficiencies and excesses at the same time – with stagnation and overheating frequently with feelings of being cold. These people can often develop poor blood (inactive - very low oxygen carrying) the blood becomes thick and deficient in yin and overheated (with false fire) – this can create a condition of dehydration in the blood of a person who is actually suffering from excesses of fluids in many places in the body. If we provide water to the patient it will thin the blood and relieve the major symptoms of overheating caused by the hot thick acidic blood. Thinning the blood allows a more appropriate oxygen metabolism, which will clear the mind and make us feel lighter and fresher. BUT – since we may already have water excess and stagnation throughout the body this will put extra stress on the Kidneys and will even further imbalance the water regulating mechanisms (Aldosterone, etc.- this results in Adrenal fatigue and possible exhaustion of Cortisol – this excess fluid will shock the Spleen which is already lost it's ability to properly distribute water (one of its major jobs) – it will become further water logged. What this means is that although water can help a great deal to relieve symptoms of overheating at a deeper level it is causing problems of its own that sooner or later will also have to be addressed. Even if the problem s not made significantly worse still we can clearly see that more water is not the true answer to this problem. The correct therapeutic protocol is to rapidly neutralize the acids, which will thin and hydrate the blood. Work on the spleen so as to remove the excess water (by `seeping'and balancing the fluids), support the Stomach, Spleen, and Kidneys. Good foods for these two processes are, porridge (long cooked soupy rice – in Ayurveda they use a food called Kicheree, which is long cooked rice and mung beans with extra water – it should be soupy – the mung beans are very cooling to the excess heat – this will remove the acid toxins from the blood – gradually – if there is too much cold in the middle then warming substances can be added – like ginger)- vegetables & non-acidic fruits are the true antidotes to these types of conditions as they remove both the heat and the dampness – potassium/magnesium supplements can achieve similar results. In these acute situations if the patient is strong then low doses of diuretics (Poria, etc. according to the case) with a mild diet of porridge and vegetables and small amounts of beans for a few days will quickly overcome the overheating symptoms – BUT this is also not a cure it is a temporary answer to an acute phase of a serious malfunction of the Spleen and Kidneys. Resolve the acute symptoms first and then address the chronic condition. There are many instances where we can relieve symptoms with various substances (like aspirin – coffee – chili peppers – cocaine – Coke – etc. etc.) but these substances are not the correct things to do in these acute problems – in the long run it makes things worse. Aspirin is absolutely not a cure for a headache it simply relieves (hides) the symptom but the underlying problem keeps developing – and in the mean time the aspirin is stressing our stomach, kidneys, blood, and liver – a poor trade off!!! 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Guest guest Posted October 29, 2005 Report Share Posted October 29, 2005 Chinese Traditional Medicine , Becky <bsalibrici> wrote: > > Thank you for sharing. Would the liver be involved too? > I had Liver imbalance as well as a number of other imbalances. It definitely was and is what TCM calls a " knotty " (complex) problem. It had been building not just for years but for decades without appropriate treatment. The TCM herbalist I saw not only did the pulse and tongue diagnosis, he asked a lot of questions. The questions were arranged according to Organs. I answered " yes " to just about every question that points to Kidney imbalance. Including the ones having to do with ear and hearing problems. At the time the Kidney imbalance was a big standout. There's not always a big standout, but that particular imbalance had gotten very extreme in my case. How are some of the ways that Kidney imbalance can affect the Liver? For one thing Cold can cause Qi to Stagnate. A good analogy is a stream that is freezing. It starts to flow slower and slower and in some cases damn up. In the body, Excess Cold from the environment can get into the Liver meridian. Another way is that the Kidneys supply the Yang to the rest of the body. Yang warms, activates, and dries. When there's not enough Yang to warm the body properly, this is called Deficiency Cold. Cold of whatever type - Excess (from the environment, from eating too many foods or herbs with Cold energy) or Deficiency - eventually will cause Qi to Stagnate. Eventually this can restrain the Liver. The Kidneys also supply Yin to the body. Liver Yin Deficiency can be (usually is) caused by the Kidneys not having enough Yin to supply to the body. This in turn can give rise to problems like Liver Yang Rising which in turn can trigger Liver-Wind Agitating Within. The Kidneys also play an important role in the manufacture of Blood. Even though the Spleen plays the major role, the Kidneys also are important. Kidney Qi Deficiency and Kidney Essence Deficiency can trigger Blood Deficiency which in turn can trigger Liver Blood Deficiency. (BTW, one of the most reliable symptoms of Liver Blood Deficiency is " floaters " in the eye. (Dark spots in the field of vision. Other symptoms include dizziness, numbness of limbs, insomnia, blurred vision, muscle spasms cramps, and brittle nails and hair. In extreme cases the sides of the tongue will turn orange. (Info from Giovanni Macioia, The Foundations of Chinese Medicine, pp 224-225.) Whenever there is Kidney Yang Deficiency, there is almost certain to be Kidney Yin Deficiency too though to a lesser amount. The reverse is also true. Whenever there is Kidney Yin Deficiency, there is almost certain to be Kidney Yang Deficiency too though to a lesser degree. When both are present, one will predominate. Sometimes it will be by just a little, and it's obvious that both are present. In my case the Kidney Yang Deficiency was so severe that it almost completely masked the symptoms of the Kidney Yin Deficiency. Because the presence of one almost always means that the other also is present, Kidney Yang formulas will contain at least one Kidney Yin tonic herb. And Kidney Yin tonic formulas will contain at least one Kidney Yang tonic herb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2005 Report Share Posted October 29, 2005 One thing I should have pointed out in the previous post is that Cold is not the only thing that can cause Qi to Stagnate. The number one cause of Liver Qi Stagnation is improperly handled emotions - particularly anger, frustration, and resentment. Trauma to tissues (and bones) can cause Qi to Stagnate and Blood Stasis. According to Giovanni Maciocia, Liver Blood Stasis always derives from Liver Qi Stagnation. (Foundations, pp. 218-219.) If Liver Qi Stagnation is not treated, eventually there will be Liver Blood Stasis problems too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2005 Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 Chinese Traditional Medicine , " victoria_dragon " <victoria_dragon> wrote: > > One thing I should have pointed out in the previous post is that Cold > is not the only thing that can cause Qi to Stagnate. > > The number one cause of Liver Qi Stagnation is improperly handled > emotions - particularly anger, frustration, and resentment. > > Trauma to tissues (and bones) can cause Qi to Stagnate and Blood > Stasis. > > According to Giovanni Maciocia, Liver Blood Stasis always derives from > Liver Qi Stagnation. (Foundations, pp. 218-219.) If Liver Qi > Stagnation is not treated, eventually there will be Liver Blood Stasis > problems too. Another issue is that liver stagnation is always a base issue in depression. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2005 Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 One problem for those new to TCM is the language that is traditionally used to translate Chinese medical terms. This problem arises first because the TCM terminology is not exactly the same as western medical terminology – also the original translators used old- fashioned western medical terms – another issue is that many concepts in TCM have no western equivalents. There is a worldwide effort to develop a standardized terminology that is more appropriate to modern usage –but in the meantime many people find themselves lost when listening to or reading TCM terms. Actually all terms in TCM are relatively easy to understand if we know what is being referred to – perhaps the meaning of terms will not be exactly equivalent but using English equivalents at least gives one a starting point for digesting the Chinese understanding. I have been aware of this problem for many years, as my father was a medical translator having translated many Chinese medical works into our mother tongue – Malayalam. He also had translated many pieces from English and in the 50s he worked on a project translating many of the old Malayalam, Sanskrit, and Dravidian medical works into English and French – unfortunately almost all of these works are long out of print. This is no longer very important because Indian physicians are mainly well educated in the western scientific literature (English Medium) nowadays. We have recently been discussing `hot' and `cold' – so perhaps discussing some of the terms and concepts that equal `hot' or `cold' in western pathological understanding will help. What is it that makes the body `cold' and why is `cold' bad? The human body is meant to function at a steady 98.6 F – this means that the internal organs should be kept at this temperature – this is called `normal' temperature – modern science has discovered through research that as body temperature falls the body begins functioning less and less efficiently. The main factor in this is that many of the most important enzymes of the body only function properly at `normal' temperatures – as the temperature falls – or rises – enzyme functions become disturbed (mainly sluggish). Example when the temperature falls below 98.2 (very common) 40 0f the most important enzymes become sluggish in their metabolism. Other enzymes and other physiological pathways slow down more and more as the temperatures fall. Many people function with a temperature of 95.5 as their `norm'. People with serious deficiency diseases like Fibromyalgia and Chronic Fatigue Syndrome often have these types of very low temps – this being the case it is easy to understand why they have all of these very severe deficiencies and symptoms of deficiency, cold, and decline. When a person has diminished temperatures this is called Hypometabolism – Hypometabolism means that every cell in the body is performing at less than efficient metabolism. This means that no function is capable of normal response. When metabolism slows we no longer can do many levels of things we would be able to do otherwise – such as move the fluids well, nourish the cells, eliminate toxins, etc. etc. we simply are slower, colder, less functional. This is mainly called diminished circulation. Whenever any group of cells are sluggish and cold the area becomes `stagnant' – this is because the processes of metabolism are not able to move fluids (dampness) or toxins (especially acid toxins – false heat) efficiently so these substances accumulate and stagnate. This sluggishness creates thousands of pathologies and the accompanying symptoms – all hypometabolic people present to the clinician with a list of symptoms a mile long – this is because in these states the entire organism is demanding attention – the levels of anxiety rise and can become serious if the problems are not solved. The `mind is in distress' because we know something is seriously wrong – we seem horribly lacking in our ability to keep up and perhaps are falling further behind in our `normal' functions weekly – it can be frightening to those who's nature is to be dynamic and active. The primary mental state of hypometabolic people is depression – although as the disease progresses the mental symptoms become worse and perhaps severe. Because in hypometabolic states the temperatures throughout the body may be slightly different in different places because certain areas may get more `stagnant' (poorer circulation) than others. One insurmountable cause is genetics as we may well inherit the fluid distribution patterns of our parents. So example many people hold more fluids in their midsection with the extremities being relatively normal in fluid distribution – these differences refer to our body type. By definition Hypometabolism is a `deficiency' state. Whenever there is deficient functioning then energy (Qi) is not produced properly – this is Qi deficiency. This is a deficiency state caused by excess. Excess of Yang (even false heat) naturally transforms into Yin. A very important factor is that one of the areas of the body where the accumulation of excess fluids is unacceptable is the Spleen – the Spleen becomes less and less efficient in controlling the fluids in the body as it loses its ability to control its own fluids. So when this happens the Spleen loses its ability to rise the clear and descend the turbid. What this means is when digestion is sluggish from deficiency from excess fluid accumulation then the food gets `stuck' in the center (stomach and Duodenum) – this means it is being held too long in the Stomach. When food is not digested by the digestive substances from the stomach (hydrochloric acid) and or the pancreas (pancreatic enzymes) and or the liver (bile) – then it sets and ferments – this fermentation creates huge quantities of toxins (alcohols, acids, undigested proteins (the first step in the formation of phlegm), peroxides, etc.)- these toxins get absorbed and then poison the blood and through the blood every cell. This process shifts the acid balance of the body contributing even further to the acid accumulation at the cellular level. As these toxins accumulate they put more and more stress on the Kidneys – this even further concentrates the toxins in the blood destroying many of its important functions the most important being its oxygen carrying capacity – this makes the blood toxic and thick (forming phlegm) – this causes stagnation in the Liver which is responsible for transforming these toxins into less harmful substances – as the acid accumulates in the Liver this means the bile is in excess in relationship to the pancreatic enzymes (in TCM this is called the `liver attacks the stomach/spleen'. This condition of acidic water retention in the Spleen is Spleen dampness with false heat- the condition of the excess accumulation of acid toxins in the Liver is stagnant Liver with acid water retention (damp heat) – when these acids accumulate to the point where they overwhelm liver functions then the toxins will create inflammatory conditions that can develop into serious liver diseases like infections (Hepatitis) – if this inflammatory condition continues over time this will cause scars in the liver from the resolution of these constant inflammations (cirrhosis)- in advanced stages the liver goes into failure. Through all of the processes of acidic water accumulation the energy production decreases at localized areas (Qi deficiency) – depending on which organ(s) is effected they will be called Qi deficient. Through following this line we can see how the organs affect each other – the process that I have been describing is one of the important ones but other pathological pathways to decreased functioning and stagnation can be described. Ancient observers described the natural way in which the energy of the body flows in a logical sequence. The energy of the Stomach when properly functioning nourishes and supports (allows healthy functioning) the Spleen – the Spleen when it separates the food Qi into the clear then it enters the blood and nourishes the body – the turbid enters the small intestine and descends to the rectum – the fact of the clear, healthy, nourishing energy circulating means the blood entering the lungs is prepared for the transformation and nourishing processes of the lungs which allows the Kidneys to function properly – and as the properly nourished and cleansed blood from the Kidneys enters the Liver it too is facilitated in its functions with no stressors – this new even fresher blood is stored in the Liver where it awaits demand from the muscles and other tissues – from the Liver the energy moves to the heart which is richly nurtured by the nice clean oxygenated blood and this nourishes the Shen – round and round the cycle goes in a sequence of each function supporting and facilitating the function of the organ which is most dependant on it for its nourishment and health. So in this way healthy Kidneys facilitate the proper function of the Liver the Liver facilitates proper functioning of the Heart – the Heart the Spleen – the Spleen the Lungs – the Lungs the Kidneys. When the Spleen is not working right the organ system that is first harmed is the Kidneys because the blood that is full of toxins (the clear has not risen and the turbid has gotten absorbed instead of descending) and undigested proteins from the incomplete digestive process enter the Kidneys (after passing through the Lungs) and instead of properly nourishing and supporting them act as a stressor to the Kidneys and their functions – like cleansing the blood – water metabolism – production of Adrenal hormones – nourishment and support of the sexual organs and functions – this poor quality acidic blood enters the Liver where the Liver attempts to do the cleansing functions that the Kidneys have not done – the even poorer more toxic blood leaving the Liver damages the Heart functions, etc. Lack of energy in any cell or organization of cells is equivalent to Qi deficiency. Low heat production in western medicine is seen as a thyroid problem since it is the thyroid hormones that produce the stimuli to cellular energy production. But advanced endocrinologists are speculating that there are many other factors involved in energy production. This developing new understanding in the west is a concept that the Indians and Chinese have taken for granted for centuries. Ayurvedic philosophers postulated thousands of years ago that the majority of disease starts in the stomach – meaning that they gave absolute importance to proper digestion in the maintenance of health and gave equal importance to the loss of health through improper digestion. Throughout history the medical profession has analyzed that which can go wrong with digestion. One thing that was discovered and observed is that all excess is damaging to the stomach – too much cold is harmful – too much heat is harmful – dryness is harmful – too much liquid is harmful - too much acid is harmful – too much pungent is harmful – too much sweet is harmful – etc. Since maintenance of stomach balance and stability is so important to the health of the Spleen – since excess conditions in the Stomach are directly and immediately transferred to the Spleen – since the Spleen is responsible for separating the good from the bad in the food we eat – extracting the Qi from the food we eat to distribute it throughout the body for nourishment and energy production since digestion is poor we remain malnourished no matter how much food we eat – even good quality food is transformed into toxic substances when it sets fermenting in the stomach. Millions of people eat huge quantities of food yet suffer from malnourishment. Without proper nourishment all cells will suffer deficit. The issue of course is not just malnutrition – because the Spleen when malfunctioning does not just fail to nourish it also allows the stagnation of the turbid (waste matter from the food) some of which eventually gets absorbed into the blood where it poisons it and creates a cascade of increasing toxic states – starting with the Kidneys as has been discussed previously. As we have seen `cold' and `hot' are relative terms since even a little bit of temperature reduction is harmful and can lead to serious deficiency diseases if it goes on for long. So in the human body an internal temperature below 98.2 is a symptom of a serious disease process – yet western science sees 98.2F as normal and few worry about them – although this is changing, as there is a great movement in western science to understand these low temps. Actually they do not have to go far to understand this as the Asians have known about this for centuries – they do not even have to see the temperatures they can look at the pulses and hear the symptoms to know – oh - this person is `cold' – where in fact the actual temperature may be 97 – a temperature that few would think of as `cold' – but for the internal environment 97 is not sufficient. This is the reason why many have trouble understanding what is referred to when the term cold is used. Often when people tell me about their symptoms of aches and pains here and there and heaviness in the stomach or constipation or trembling or numbness, etc. – when I tell them you have too much cold in such and such an organ – they often look at me questioningly – cold? What cold? I'm not cold – they might even innumerate some heat symptoms. I explain to them that cold in the sense I am talking about may mean only a degree or two of temperature reduction. In severely deficient people one often sees hot and cold spots co-existing throughout the body. The hot spots are very often - false heat. What is `false heat'? False heat means the real or imagined sensations of heat that do not come from metabolism (Qi or ATP production) There are many types of false heat – some are very esoteric and difficult to understand as they are caused by complex physiological processes – these categories of internal tension are often thought of as the dichotomy between the left and the right – which is one of the important causes for the ANS (Autonomic Nervous System) disease that so many suffer from today – this is a dichotomy or tension between the SNS (Sympathetic- the excitatory system) and the PNS or PSNS (Para-Sympathetic-the calming system)) nervous systems – this creates a condition of constantly being `over-revved' and `overheated' (excess catecholamines) - unable to ever relax – the person will have many symptoms of being over stimulated and over- heated but actually they are cold in their internal environment – this is a type of false heat. Related to the previous is the category of false heat that is being discussed in many pathological conditions – this is essentially acid. Acids are stimulatory and act as irritants in excess or in the wrong forms – they interfere with the normal functioning of cells – blood PH like temperature is something the body does everything it can to maintain at a constant level in this case it is a PH of 7.3 – but one can easily see how the accumulations of acids in the blood or locally in individual tissues interferes with metabolism. This stimulation and irritation is experienced as heat (acid stomach, etc.)this is a false heat. There are false heat as well as true heat symptoms in inflammations – in the activities of other organisms that may inhabit our body – of course from exogenous heat. I would like to add some brief comments on Victoria's letter - [[V - It's very appropriate. Whenever emotions are denied and suppressed, they weaken the body and in time trigger imbalances. Personally, I find a good cry to be very healing. I'm acknowledging that there are some problems, and after I have a good cry, I feel more like tackling them. Also, from a Western allopathic viewpoint, crying rids the body of some harmful chemicals that have built up within.]] This is a way of releasing chemicals and internal tensions but I would discourage the stimulation of grief symptoms, as it will harm the lungs – plus during the time of powerful emotions – the body is stressed in many ways – as an example strong emotions (good and bad) cause stomach tensions that are a result of the hyper reactive state. Tense people will become easily imbalanced in many directions when stressed. [[V - I also got very humorous in expressing my anger and frustration. I made sure my husband knew the anger wasn't directed at him but at the illness. That way he could laugh along too. Of course when I was angry at him for something, I made sure he knew that too. But mostly I was angry at and frustrated by the illness.]] This is good – when suffering from excess heat symptoms it is very important to understand that the projected heat is a symptom of your disease – do not blame yourself or anyone else. All of the organs have related emotions in health and malfunction – these emotions are inherent in the disease process and must be understood. Often living with disease is a trial for us and those around us because we do not know how to interpret this anger or grief or withdrawal, etc. It is the responsibility of the ill person to help those around them to understand and deal with their often inappropriate and excessive reaction states. It is impossible to experience anger without Liver problems or fear without Kidney malfunctions. Healthy people with balance in and between the organs do not suffer inappropriate and excessive emotional states. My father is a person of true health and I have never seen him express any excessiveness or projection in my life. He is always even tempered. [[V-I can't state that visualization works. Who knows? I was doing other things to put the mono into remission. But at the very least it gave me something to do other than gritting my teeth because I had to rest so much. It was entertaining and helped me to drop off to sleep. I did eventually go into remission even though my doctor had told me I'd probably never have another negative mono test. It's not going to hurt. I wouldn't rely entirely upon visualization, but it might help.]] Perhaps Victoria has not read the literature but there is a mountain of evidence from scientific studies and thousands of years of experience that proves beyond any doubt that visualization is a very effective therapy. All visualization along with many other such meditative and breath control techniques can in and of themselves calm many reactive states – but in my mind the true purpose of these techniques is to heal the imbalance in the ANS (Autonomic Nervous System) which is the cause of the reactive states. [[V - Each of the 5 Organs also is vulnerable to one or more emotions. For the Liver it's anger, frustration, and resentment. The Lungs (and Qi) can be weakened by grief. The Heart is vulnerable to mania. The Spleen is vulnerable to pensiveness and obsessing. (Also to studying too much.) The Kidneys are weakened by fear and fright.]] The emotions are caused by the organs and the fact of having the emotion - in a feedback loop -damages the organs – example anger is caused by the upward moving Evil Wind (Liver) – but the fact of having the emotion of anger is damaging to the Liver. [[V - differentiate between the physical and the psychological, but I explain it in terms that Westerners can best understand.]] Please understand that the mind and body are the same thing – the mind is a function of the body and obviously has no reality outside of the body – ALL mental states are reflections of the general condition of the body as well as specific conditions. [[V- The way people usually run into problems with their emotions is they deny/ suppress them, they over express them, or they inappropriately express them. An example of over expression is someone going nuclear over something slight when a simple " I don't like that! " would suffice. Inappropriately expressing emotions occurs when someone substitutes one emotion as a way of not feeling another, more threatening (to the individual) emotion. For example, a person who is always angry as a way of avoiding admitting to him or herself that s/he's scared, feeling vulnerable, in love, etc. Sometimes anger is the more threatening emotion and sadness and feelings of hopelessness get substituted for it.]] Understanding the relationship of the emotions to the organs is a very useful tool for interpreting and diagnosing our organ conditions. Anger with fear means Liver and Kidney malfunction – it is not necessary to see a psychiatrist or psychologist – for these issues – simply balance the energies in the organs and these symptoms will vanish. I have seen many people who terrorize their families with anger and irritability become gentle loving other oriented people when the Liver energies are balanced. [[V - Abnormal bone growths as well as nodules can be due to Phlegm. Again, the TCM term is capitalized because it's not equivalent to phlegm. If it is Phlegm, Phlegm can take a long time to treat and can be hard to treat, but it is treatable.]] The subject of phlegm is very important – in Ayurveda the primary assumption is that when digestion is poor some of the undigested part turns into phlegm – this is the real reason why digestion is so important in health – because of the multitude of serious symptoms that are caused by phlegm. At a later time I will write something about phlegm if anyone is interested. My wife often asks me if I think anyone reads these long postings. I do not know – I myself read a lot of other peoples postings but I know that not everyone has the freedom to do that – but hopefully someone will find something useful in these attempts to clarify issues. Hope it does not further complicate things for anyone – these issues are very complicated and really it takes a true commitment to come to understand the disease process – but take heart there is help for even the most difficult cases. Many have been healed of the most complicated disease patterns – why not give healing a chance. I know that many feel their diseases are incurable – the point is that even if the base disease is incurable still the reduction of symptoms and the achievement of a measure of balance will improve the quality of life tremendously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2005 Report Share Posted November 3, 2005 Dear sir , I am sooo Happy to have you and victoria explain things in their fullness, I like others on this list got here by searching for some relief and understanding of TCM and how it could help me. I have received both here, and much relief from my symptoms. Please tell your wife that I read all of the posts. Many of the participants on the list are guessing , asking or learning, It is so very helpful when knowledgeable persons offer their insights to seekers such like me For many years I found TCM intriguing but felt it was too complicated to bother with. It is complicated, but well worth the effort .I am so enamored of it that I wish to become Dr of Oriental Medicine. Please continue to enlighten us with your posts. Rabiah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 Chinese Traditional Medicine , " Vinod Kumar " <vinod3x3> wrote: > > modern science has discovered through research that as > body temperature falls the body begins functioning less and less > efficiently. The main factor in this is that many of the most > important enzymes of the body only function properly at `normal' > temperatures – as the temperature falls – or rises – enzyme > functions become disturbed (mainly sluggish). Example when the > temperature falls below 98.2 (very common) 40 0f the most important > enzymes become sluggish in their metabolism. Other enzymes and other > physiological pathways slow down more and more as the temperatures > fall. Many people function with a temperature of 95.5 as > their `norm'. People with serious deficiency diseases like > Fibromyalgia and Chronic Fatigue Syndrome often have these types of > very low temps – this being the case it is easy to understand why > they have all of these very severe deficiencies and symptoms of > deficiency, cold, and decline. For years I stayed in the 97 range. When I was the sickest, I got down to the low 96 range. The lower my body temperature went, the sicker I was and felt. In the winter I was having to take several hot baths a day to warm up. It didn't even get that cold in the winter where I lived, but it was too much for me. No matter how many layers of clothes I put on, how many heavy quilts I covered myself with, or how high I turned an electric blanket up, I could not warm up. (That I was living in a desert area may have been a factor in needing to soak in hot water. Moist air holds more heat than dry air does.) One of the most frustrating things was that as long as my thyroid tests were normal, no doctor paid any attention to that low body temperature or to my having trouble warming up. I do have a history of on-again, off-again thyroid problems that do correspond to bouts of mononucleosis and flare-ups of CFIDS. Even when thyroid supplementation brought test results for thyroid level up to normal, I still had problems with cold. During the worst of this, there was a sensation like I was so cold I was neutralizing any heat around me. I could feel the heat from the electric blanket, but it was like it never penetrated into me. I had a lot more trouble getting into a bathtub than getting out because once I had soaked until I felt warm, I was a lot more flexible. As I warmed up in the bathtub, I needed more and more heat. So I would let some of the water out of the tub and replace it with hot water until I finally felt warm enough. The only time I was able to warm up on my own was when I'd been asleep a few hours. I'd wake up hot and thirsty, but a couple of sips of room temperature water made me feel cold and sleepy again. One of the milestones in healing for me was being able to feel warmth when I touched my hands to my face. > Whenever > any group of cells are sluggish and cold the area > becomes `stagnant' – this is because the processes of metabolism are > not able to move fluids (dampness) or toxins (especially acid > toxins – false heat) efficiently so these substances accumulate and > stagnate. This sluggishness creates thousands of pathologies and the > accompanying symptoms – all hypometabolic people present to the > clinician with a list of symptoms a mile long – this is because in > these states the entire organism is demanding attention I just wanted to emphasize this for the students on the list who are studying the effects of Cold on an organism and how Cold can trigger Qi Stagnation and Blood Stasis. > toxic substances when it sets fermenting in the stomach. Millions of > people eat huge quantities of food yet suffer from malnourishment. > Without proper nourishment all cells will suffer deficit. The issue > of course is not just malnutrition – because the Spleen when > malfunctioning does not just fail to nourish it also allows the > stagnation of the turbid (waste matter from the food) some of which > eventually gets absorbed into the blood where it poisons it and > creates a cascade of increasing toxic states – starting with the > Kidneys as has been discussed previously. An informal poll of CFIDS patients revealed that the digestive aid that helped the most was digestive enzymes. Keep in mind the previous paragraph about how when the body temperature is low that a number of enzymes in the body have problems doing their jobs. It's going to take more to get the same job done. Not only that, it's another one of those snowballing situations. As the body slows down more and more, gets less and less from food, gets more and more " clogged " , gets more and more deficient, it's going to produce less and less enzymes. This in turn leads to the body getting even less nutrition which leads to less enzymes and so on. The building blocks simply are not there, and the processes are too sluggish. > > As we have seen `cold' and `hot' are relative terms since even a > little bit of temperature reduction is harmful and can lead to > serious deficiency diseases if it goes on for long. So in the human > body an internal temperature below 98.2 is a symptom of a serious > disease process – yet western science sees 98.2F as normal and few > worry about them – although this is changing, as there is a great > movement in western science to understand these low temps. It's about time! > It is > the responsibility of the ill person to help those around them to > understand and deal with their often inappropriate and excessive > reaction states. One thing to keep in mind is that inappropriate and excessive emotions can be a symptom of certain viral infections. No amount of talk therapy is going to help in these cases. At best any drugs like antidepressants or tranquilizers may mask symptoms. What needs to be done is to bring the viral infection under control. From time to time healers will encounter clients who because they are attuned to their emotions can tell you that the emotions have nothing to do with anything that is happening or has happened in their lives. There is something about these emotions that is very different from any frustration, anger, depression, anxiety, etc. that normally arises from the course of an illness or from dealing with an illness. It's like, " Where did that come from???? " I've experienced this during the worst of bouts of mono, but I can't really explain what it's like, just that it is very different from emotions that arise as a reaction to something going on in the person's life or psyche. The reason why it's important is that it can be diagnostic and an aid in knowing what to do to prevent one from becoming sicker. Over the years I've learned in my case that it's a warning that the mono is flaring or getting worse, and I really need to rest more, pay more attention to diet, etc. It's also important for healers to be aware of the various emotional responses that arise when people are ill. Especially when bio- chemical changes in the body that are directly related to the illness are triggering the emotions. (Like increased cytokline production.) It can be like a lifeline to a client who is feeling overwhelmed by so many things to hear, " Oh, that's the effects of the infection (or untreated asthma or whatever). That's just the illness talking. It will pass as the infection lessens. " Once the client knows what is going on and why, the client can become quite blase about having the emotions and able to concentrate on healing. > Understanding the relationship of the emotions to the organs is a > very useful tool for interpreting and diagnosing our organ > conditions. Anger with fear means Liver and Kidney malfunction – it > is not necessary to see a psychiatrist or psychologist – for these > issues – simply balance the energies in the organs and these > symptoms will vanish. I have seen many people who terrorize their > families with anger and irritability become gentle loving other > oriented people when the Liver energies are balanced. Western healers used to be trained to use emotions in diagnosis a lot more than they are today. (Hopefully this is changing.) Some older doctors and nurses can remember being taught in school that when a patient looks and comes across as angry to suspect the person is in pain. When one is aware of the TCM correspondences, it becomes obvious why people who are in pain often are angry and vice versa. Anger is most associated with the Liver. One of the main functions of the Liver is the smooth flow of Qi throughout the body. When Qi Stagnates, one of the common symptoms is pain. I want to mention something about people having trouble learning to meditate. One of the possible causes is Yin Deficiency. Remember, Yin calms the body. If a person is very Yin Deficient, the person will likely have problems learning to and engaging in meditation. Healers may need to address the Yin Deficiency problem before the person is able to meditate. Another situation in which people may find it hard to meditate is if the person is weather sensitive (Protective Qi Deficient) and a storm is moving in. Even if the person usually finds meditation very easy. > My wife often asks me if I think anyone reads these long postings. I not only read them all the way through, I enjoy and learn a lot from them. > I > do not know – I myself read a lot of other peoples postings but I > know that not everyone has the freedom to do that – but hopefully > someone will find something useful in these attempts to clarify > issues. People are at different levels on the list. There are people who are new to TCM, TCM students, and various Western and Eastern health professionals. List members also have various interests. For example, some are interested mainly in massage, some in herbalism, some in acupuncture, etc. People take from the list what they most need. People also give to the list of their unique talents and knowledge. There are a number of list members who are particularly interested in the intersections between Western allopathic medicine and TCM. Also keep in mind that there are some MDs and DOs on the list. You have the combination of talent, training, and interest to explain things in such a way that they find it easiest to understand. Not just the MDs and DOs but any list members who have a strong interest in allopathic medicine. Plus you have other interests and training that make you unique. I have a special interest in helping those who are new to TCM and the TCM students. I wish someone had told me about TCM years before I read a book in a library. I never would have gotten as sick as I did. For a good part of my life I've been a student. I also used to teach. At a young age I wanted to teach. So I have a special interest in helping the students on the list. One of the keys to learning is to hear something in different ways from different people. Another key is to have something emphasized. Both of these things help information to " stick " . So I frequently will comment on topics in posts and put the information in different words so that it gets emphasized. Sometimes I tell students when something probably will show up on a test. One of the things I naturally do is to look for and identify the " building blocks " of learning. They are the facts that the students will build upon. If they thoroughly understand this concept and know it's important and why it's important, they will find it much easier to understand certain other concepts. > Hope it does not further complicate things for anyone – > these issues are very complicated and really it takes a true > commitment to come to understand the disease process – but take > heart there is help for even the most difficult cases. Many have > been healed of the most complicated disease patterns – why not give > healing a chance. I know that many feel their diseases are > incurable – the point is that even if the base disease is incurable > still the reduction of symptoms and the achievement of a measure of > balance will improve the quality of life tremendously. This needed to be emphasized. I would say that healers and patients/clients have just begun to realize what is possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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