cun and stomach 40

[Guest guest]

Hello,

what is a cun? I'm looking up acupuncture points and trying to find stomach

40. My acupuncturist has me doing moxa at home on my husband who has

cancer. I am unsure of how to ascertain that I know where stomach 40 is,

especially since the website is measuring in cuns......whatever the heck

that is.

Also, please, please answer in layman terms;otherwise it well be

gibberish to me.

Thanks,

Michelle.

[Guest guest]

The cun is not an exact measurement but a relative one. Hopefully

this article from the acupuncture.com website will help some:

 

from Acupoint Location Guide

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Introduction:

Locating acupuncture points requires an understanding of anatomical

landmarks. Once these landmarks are located, the space between these

landmarks are described in " cun " which is a Chinese word that

translates to " anatomical inch " . There are always three cun from the

eyebrow to the forehead hairline. However, on a large headed person,

those " cun " will be longer than on a child. But because acupuncture

points are located on the patient according to the patient's unique

anatomy, the ruler length between different people will vary widely.

 

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http://www.etsem.co.il/acupoint/

 

Head & Neck Cun Division

Body Part Cun Between

Top midline 12 The forehead hairline and the neck hairline.

Top midline 14 The glabella or eyebrow, and the occipital

protuberance's inferior border.

Forehead width 9 The two forehead hairline corners.

Forehead height 3 The glabella (eyebrow) and the forehead hairline.

Throat height 3 The clavicle medial end and the mandible angle, or

between the hyoid and the manubrium's superior border (when the head

is straight).

Neck width 9 The inferior ends of the two mastoid bones.

Neck height 3 The neck hairline and the seventh cervical (C7)

spinous process.

 

 

Torso Cun Division

Body Part (head & limb) Cun Between

Front width 8 The two nipples.

Chest width 8 The front midline and the armpit (axillary) anterior

end (when the arms lie straight alongside the body).

Chest width 8 The front midline and the acromial tip.

Abdomen width 4 The front midline and the rectus abdominis muscle's

lateral border.

Upper abdomen height 8 The umbilicus center and the xiphisternal

joint.

Lower abdominal height 5 The umbilicus center and the pubic

symphysis superior border.

Back width 3 The back midline and the scapular spine's medial end

(when the arms lie straight alongside the body).

Lower back width 3 The two PSIS (posterior superior iliac spines).

 

 

Arm Cun Division

Body Part Cun Between

Upper arm length 9 The front end midline and the armpit axillary

anterior end and the elbow (cubital) fold.

Lower arm length 12 The elbow (cubital fold and the wrist (carpal)

crease.

Back shoulder length 3 The acromion and the armpit (axilla)

posterior end (when the arms lie straight alongside the body).

 

 

Leg Cun Division

Body Part Cun Between

Thigh lateral length 19 The femur greater trochanter superior border

and the knee (popliteal) fold and joint.

Thigh lateral length 18 The femur greater trochanter peak and the

knee (popliteal) fold and joint.

Thigh medial length 18 The pubic symphysis superior border and the

femur medial epicondyle superior border.

Knee length 2 The patella superior and the inferior borders.

Lower leg lateral length 16 The lateral ma tip and the knee

(popliteal) fold and joint.

Lower leg medial length 13 The medial malleolus and the tibial

medial condyle inferior border.

Foot lateral height 3 The lateral malleolus tip and the sole.

Foot medial height 3 The medial malleolus tip and the sole.

 

 

Use of Fingers to Measure Cun

Cun Between

3 The two sides of the 4 fingers (at the level of the proximal

interphalangeal joints, when the fingers are held together

.. 2 The index finger's tip and the proximal interphalangeal joint

(and fold).

1.5 The two sides of the index and middle fingers when they are held

together at the level of the proximal interphalangeal joints.

1 The two sides of the thumb at the proximal interphalangeal joint.

[Guest guest]

Here's a link to an interactive acupuncture model:

 

http://www.qi-journal.com/tcmarticles/acumodel/acumodel.asp

[Guest guest]

<big snip>

> Use of Fingers to Measure Cun

> Cun Between

> 3 The two sides of the 4 fingers (at the level of the proximal

> interphalangeal joints, when the fingers are held together

> . 2 The index finger's tip and the proximal interphalangeal joint

> (and fold).

> 1.5 The two sides of the index and middle fingers when they are

> held together at the level of the proximal interphalangeal joints.

> 1 The two sides of the thumb at the proximal interphalangeal joint.

 

This is relative to the client's fingers and thumb.

I imagine your husband's are thicker than yours.

[Guest guest]

Thank you,

I will visit it now, have you ever used this site. It is impressive....at least

to neophyte me.

Michelle

http://www.yinyanghouse.com/acupoints/st_meridian.html

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victoria_dragon

Chinese Traditional Medicine

Sunday, September 18, 2005 9:52 PM

[Chinese Traditional Medicine] Re: cun and stomach 40

 

 

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[Guest guest]

> I am unsure of how to ascertain that I know where stomach 40 is,

<snip>

> Also, please, please answer in layman terms;otherwise it well be

> gibberish to me.

 

To find ST 40, make sure that you're on the same side of the leg as

the little toe, and go halfway from the ankle bone, (the big bump

of a bone sticking out <g>), and the crease at the knee.

Once you've found that halfway mark, (which is now 8 cun from

the crease in the knee, and 8 cun from the lateral malleolus (ankle

bone), go 2 finger breadths out from the bone, (you'll feel the

bone if you go up from the middle of your foot to the knee--

you're on that bone as you go up.) Use your husband's

finger size to determine what 2 finger breadths should be, since

your fingers might be a different size.

 

If that doesn't explain it well enough, please let me know, and

I'll try again, or perhaps someone else can help out, too.

 

BTW, a cun is a relative measurement, depending on where you

are on the body, and the person's size. But, as a general reference,

it's the width across the knuckle of your thumb. And, it translates

to one inch when you're talking about needle depths: if you are

to insert a needle 1 cun, you'll be going in about 1 inch. But, a

cun doesn't translate to an inch in all situations, making it a little

tougher to figure out the descriptions. :-)

 

I'm not sure which photos you're using, but also note that not

all illustrations are accurate. I haven't seen any that are wrong

for ST 40, though, so you're most likely fine following those.

 

Jeri

[Guest guest]

Jeri,

This is lovely. Thank you,

Michelle

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kurvenal

Chinese Traditional Medicine

Cc: michellec

Monday, September 19, 2005 5:21 PM

[Chinese Traditional Medicine] Re: cun and stomach 40

 

 

> I am unsure of how to ascertain that I know where stomach 40 is,

<snip>

> Also, please, please answer in layman terms;otherwise it well be

> gibberish to me.

 

To find ST 40, make sure that you're on the same side of the leg as

the little toe, and go halfway from the ankle bone, (the big bump

of a bone sticking out <g>), and the crease at the knee.

Once you've found that halfway mark, (which is now 8 cun from

the crease in the knee, and 8 cun from the lateral malleolus (ankle

bone), go 2 finger breadths out from the bone, (you'll feel the

bone if you go up from the middle of your foot to the knee--

you're on that bone as you go up.) Use your husband's

finger size to determine what 2 finger breadths should be, since

your fingers might be a different size.

 

If that doesn't explain it well enough, please let me know, and

I'll try again, or perhaps someone else can help out, too.

 

BTW, a cun is a relative measurement, depending on where you

are on the body, and the person's size. But, as a general reference,

it's the width across the knuckle of your thumb. And, it translates

to one inch when you're talking about needle depths: if you are

to insert a needle 1 cun, you'll be going in about 1 inch. But, a

cun doesn't translate to an inch in all situations, making it a little

tougher to figure out the descriptions. :-)

 

I'm not sure which photos you're using, but also note that not

all illustrations are accurate. I haven't seen any that are wrong

for ST 40, though, so you're most likely fine following those.

 

Jeri

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Hi there......when I was learning locations, points and influences I

found the diagrams at yinyanghouse.com very helpful. Best wishes for

positive results

 

Chinese Traditional Medicine , " kurvenal " <kurvenal@a...>

wrote:

> > I am unsure of how to ascertain that I know where stomach 40 is,

> <snip>

> > Also, please, please answer in layman terms;otherwise it well

be

> > gibberish to me.

>

> To find ST 40, make sure that you're on the same side of the leg as

> the little toe, and go halfway from the ankle bone, (the big bump

> of a bone sticking out <g>), and the crease at the knee.

> Once you've found that halfway mark, (which is now 8 cun from

> the crease in the knee, and 8 cun from the lateral malleolus (ankle

> bone), go 2 finger breadths out from the bone, (you'll feel the

> bone if you go up from the middle of your foot to the knee--

> you're on that bone as you go up.) Use your husband's

> finger size to determine what 2 finger breadths should be, since

> your fingers might be a different size.

>

> If that doesn't explain it well enough, please let me know, and

> I'll try again, or perhaps someone else can help out, too.

>

> BTW, a cun is a relative measurement, depending on where you

> are on the body, and the person's size. But, as a general reference,

> it's the width across the knuckle of your thumb. And, it translates

> to one inch when you're talking about needle depths: if you are

> to insert a needle 1 cun, you'll be going in about 1 inch. But, a

> cun doesn't translate to an inch in all situations, making it a

little

> tougher to figure out the descriptions. :-)

>

> I'm not sure which photos you're using, but also note that not

> all illustrations are accurate. I haven't seen any that are wrong

> for ST 40, though, so you're most likely fine following those.

>

> Jeri

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Chinese Traditional Medicine , " victoria_dragon "

<victoria_dragon> wrote:

> Here's a link to an interactive acupuncture model:

>

> http://www.qi-journal.com/tcmarticles/acumodel/acumodel.asp

 

Another good poing locator site is www.acuxo.com. It shows the points

both relative to others on a meridian and a closeup on an anatomical

diagram. St 40 is on the following link, and lateral means to the

side, rather than toward the middle.

http://www.acuxo.com/meridianPictures.asp?point=ST40 & meridian=Stomach

 

sue

[Guest guest]

Chinese Traditional Medicine , " Michelle Clark "

<michellec@n...> wrote:

> Thank you,

> I will visit it now, have you ever used this site. It is

impressive....at least to neophyte me.

> Michelle

> http://www.yinyanghouse.com/acupoints/st_meridian.html

 

I found this site a few months ago. It's quite extensive and I haven't

had time to fully explore it. What I've seen is very good.

 

sue