Improved sleep for one Cold individual (Karen)

[Guest guest]

Hello Karen,

 

I, too, have a thyroid imbalance and at one time also experienced low body

temperatures, also at varying times of day. I hope that TCM will strengthen

your body over time and improve your health. I have found TCM to improve my

response to medication, and feel I need less because I use the herbs to help

rebalance all the organs, not just the thyroid.

 

One thing which really helped me is using natural prescription thyroid

medication which contains all the thyroid hormones not just T4 in a synthetic

form.

I originally took synthetic T3 (liothyroinine), but this was too strong for

me (still some people feel better using just T3 rather than the T4 which you

are on or a mixture of both--I myself never could use a T4 preparation alone

as it sent my body temperatures to the basement). Still my body temperatures

improved with the natural thyroid hormones which contain t4, t3, t2 and t2

and probably other substance which have not yet been identified. I am now warm

all the time unless I forget a dose of my medication. I am very T3

dependent and so cannot take all my thyroid medication at once. I must take my

medicationdoses at least three times a day to get the natural T3 contained in my

medication and to have a more even delivery of hormones to my body. If only it

was available in time release form.

 

The other thing I found necessary to feeling better was to locate a doctor

who would pay more attention to how I felt rather than to lab numbers on tests.

My TSH gets really low now, but he does not panic and think I am

hyperthyroid. He can tell I am not and can see I am feeling better. I think

locating

doctors who use symptoms (just like TCM practitioners) makes a big difference

to feeling better with thyroid disease. Not an easy task I know finding

these rare doctors.

 

 

Sarah

 

In a message dated 7/18/05 1:50:11 PM, Chinese Traditional Medicine writes:

 

 

> Message: 1        

>    Sun, 17 Jul 2005 10:24:45 -0700

>    Karen Peterson <kpeterha

> Re: Re: Improved sleep for one Cold individual

>

> I take 0.01 MG of thyroid (levoxyl) replacement every morning.  I still

> have low temp. at different times during the day.  I also have

> Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome, Metabolic Disorder, Fibromyalgia, TMJ, IBS,

> Interstitial Cystitis, Migraine, Rosacea, and Insomnia (diagnosed sleep

> disorder).  I am being treated by several western " specialists " , but

> also go for acupuncture every two weeks, massage once per month, and

> take raw chinese herbs (that I boil into a tea).  I've improved slightly

> over the last eighteen months, enough to where I could return to work,

> but still miss many days due to migraine.

>

> I have noticed that when I wake up at night, my feet are outside the

> covers and quite cold.  I must be doing this in my sleep, but why?  I am

> thinking of trying the application of heat to the ankle areas to see if

> it improves my sleep and make me get up fewer times to urinate.  I have

> a material bag of herbs that gets heated in the microwave and have used

> for my neck stiffness and pain.  There is also a roll on of essential

> oils that can be used with the herb bag that includes lavender and

> peppermint.  I got these at Costco during a road show, but they have a

> website I can order from when I run out.

>

> After twenty five years of searching for the " answer " to my physical

> difficulties, I am very pleased to have found TCM.  I don't really trust

> Western doctors any longer because they always seem to just want to

> write me a new prescription.  I take several mineral and vitamin

> supplements that I have researched, and I know I am being treated for Qi

> deficiency and Blood stagnation.  My migraine always follows my UB,

> Liver, and GB meridians, before finally settling at UB31, over my left

> eye.  I look forward to my further education in TCM from this group and

> just wanted to let you know how much I appreciate all of your

> information.  I know that interacting with this group is not to take the

> place of doctors or TCM practitioners, but still, I gain much

> information from all of you.

>

> Karen in  San Diego

>

>

 

 

[Guest guest]

TREATMENTS FOR THYROID DISEASES WITH CHINESE HERBAL MEDICINE

 

http://www.itmonline.org/arts/thyroid.htm

 

 

 

No information in this letter should be construed as medical advice.

This information is for educational purposes only.

 

Jeff Frankel

10360 Pine Lakes Blvd

North Fort Myers, Fl 33903

239-731-2655

http://www.msprotocols.com/

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Karen,

 

I agree with Victoria, it is better to use a doctor when on thyroid

medication, especially since you have so many other problems besides thyroid

imbalance.

It may take time to find a good doctor and the doctor you get along with

may not be an endocrinologist (these are the doctors most likely to insist on

using synthetic T4, will not usually look at using synthetic T3 and usually will

not even recognize that there are natural prescription thyroid hormones out

there or will insist that the doses are inconsistent, as if synthroid never had

this problem--ha, I will take my chances with the consistency of natural

thyroid any day, and personally have had no problem with my particular brand of

natural thyoid medication).

 

I personally could not take Armour (due to the fillers which are not

hypoallergenic). I have had better results using Nature-throid which at least

pays

attention to fillers. Bio-throid may or may not be back on the market--last I

heard it had been pulled but if available once again (the FDA amuses itself

from time to time harrasing smaller companies IMO and pulling drugs for

approval) Bio-throid itself was in a capsule with no fillers added at all and if

anyone was sensitive to the capsule itself it could be pulled open and added

to

food. Or course if pork sensitivity itself is a problem then the natural

thyroid hormones are out.

 

Here is a site which may help you find another doctor (if you are looking for

one):

 

http://thyroid.about.com/cs/doctors/a/topdocs.htm

 

Patients write about their experiences with different doctors though the site

owner does not endorse any doctor and says that every person's experience may

be different and not always the same. This information is broken down by

state.

 

If you do not already know about this site you may enjoy other information fo

und on it.

 

There are numerous forums about different aspects of thyroid care on the site

and the owner has recently written a book about thyroid and diet. Also a

forum on the site is devoted to the subject of diet. BTW congratulations on your

weight loss so far. I know it has been difficult for you, and I think it is

wonderful you have gotten so far along with your goal. One thing I found

personally effective in this area was using a TCM practitioner to help with

weight loss.

 

Sarah

 

http://thyroid.about.com/cs/doctors/a/topdocs.htm

 

 

Message: 3        

   Sat, 23 Jul 2005 19:51:29 -0700

   Karen Peterson <kpeterha

Natural Thyroid?

 

 

Sarah,

 

I was thinking about trying Armour thyroid by buying it over the

internet.  The endocrinologist that I am seeing now is mostly a weight

management specialist who makes a lot of money selling products like

powdered shakes and protein bars.  I can't use his products because they

contain non-nutrative sweeteners, especially Nutrasweet.  I have

interstitial cystitis, a bladder condition, and my bladder is very

sensitive to Nutrasweet.  I can use some Splenda, but mostly use brown

sugar or honey for sweetener.  Not using much now, as I've been on a

diet for six months and have lost almost forty pounds.  I need to lose

another forty, but the PCOS and metabolic syndrome make it much harder

to lose it.

 

Would a seller of Armour thyroid know how much I should take?  I'm only

on 0.01 MG of levoxyl and wondered if they had some kind of conversion

table.  Or, would I just have to try different amounts for a short time

and see how I " feel " ?

 

Karen