Guest guest Posted July 5, 2005 Report Share Posted July 5, 2005 I am in the process of starting a new practice and developing a website and brochures. One topic that I wanted to address was the training or lack of training by other healthcare professionals performing acupuncture. I put this together and would like to ask your thoughts or comments before I make this the final copy. Please include anything else that I may add. Thanks Brian N Hardy, DC, LAc Document below: The practice of acupuncture and Oriental medicine is receiving unprecedented publicity in this country, and acupuncture is being offered by a variety of health care practitioners calling themselves " acupuncturists. " Consequently, the general public may be confused over the qualifications of those providing this service. The American Association of Medical Acupuncturists (AAMA) recommends a program of only 220 to 300 hours of study for what it terms " medical acupuncture " for medical doctors. See article: Medical Acupuncture for Physicians Where state chiropractic boards are allowed to certify their licensees in acupuncture, their programs are usually a mere 100 hours. See article: International Academy of Medical Acupuncture Inc. (IAMA) Note: Both article's will interest you, in reviewing the education and clinical training or lack of, that other health care professionals have in regards to their training in acupuncture. I chose these 2 associations since they are major associations in training other health care professionals. Nationally accredited acupuncture schools provide a minimum of 1725 hours of training in their educational programs for acupuncture and a minimum of 2175 hours in their programs of Oriental medicine. These hours also constitute the educational requirements for the licensing of Acupuncturists in most states. The American Association of Oriental Medicine (AAOM) has adopted the position that anyone practicing acupuncture without certification as a Diplomate in Acupuncture (Dipl. Ac.) from the National Certification Commission for Acupuncture and Oriental Medicine (NCCAOM), or an equivalent state license as an Acupuncturist, practices below the prevailing standards of minimum competency for acupuncture. In speaking to other healthcare providers (Medical Doctors, Chiropractors, etc.) regarding this topic of administrating acupuncture treatment, several professionals feel that performing acupuncture is not in their scope of practice due to the higher standards of education and clinical training that an acupuncturist must study. The other set of healthcare providers (Medical Doctors, Chiropractors, etc.) who do acupuncture, feel they have this right to perform acupuncture because the education they received may have included more hours of education than acupuncturists. I point out how the education and clinical training of both professions are completely vast and different. These professional's (Medical Doctors, Chiropractors, etc.) also like to say they are performing medical acupuncture, meridian acupuncture, scientific acupuncture, etc. By saying this, they feel they are now entitled to do acupuncture. I feel that since I have been educated and received degree's in both systems of health care, it is my opinion that unless a healthcare professional has received adequate training in acupuncture it poses a health risk as well as success of the clinical outcome of the treatment. The question to ask yourself is, do I want a healthcare professional performing acupuncture on me who is not adeqently trained. The ultimate choice that must be made, is by you as the patient Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2005 Report Share Posted July 7, 2005 Brian, I aplaud your effort and your education but my reading of this was unclear. " they are major associations in training other health care professionals " Not sure that the IAMA would qualify as an association as it really is individually owned and operated like a quasi school. You forget to mention the DC schools that are now providing acu certification thru the backdoor and then claiming it is accreditted. You neglected to mention the higher standards for the CA approved programs, not sure what state you live in and the school you attended. This might help more if you attended a CA approved program (14 out of CA and 16 in state). " it is my opinion that unless a healthcare professional has received adequate training in acupuncture it poses a health risk as well as success of the clinical outcome of the treatment. " You did not mention what is adequate training only that different groups have their own standards and it seems like professional confusion. Take care and hope this helps. Drop me an email offline if you want to discuss further. Later Mike W. Bowser, L Ac > " mischievous00 " <mischievous00 > > > Practice of acupuncture >Tue, 05 Jul 2005 19:46:35 -0000 > >I am in the process of starting a new practice and developing a >website and brochures. One topic that I wanted to address was the >training or lack of training by other healthcare professionals >performing acupuncture. > >I put this together and would like to ask your thoughts or comments >before I make this the final copy. Please include anything else that >I may add. > >Thanks >Brian N Hardy, DC, LAc > > >Document below: > >The practice of acupuncture and Oriental medicine is receiving >unprecedented publicity in this country, and acupuncture is being >offered by a variety of health care practitioners calling >themselves " acupuncturists. " Consequently, the general public may be >confused over the qualifications of those providing this service. > >The American Association of Medical Acupuncturists (AAMA) recommends >a program of only 220 to 300 hours of study for what it >terms " medical acupuncture " for medical doctors. > >See article: Medical Acupuncture for Physicians > >Where state chiropractic boards are allowed to certify their >licensees in acupuncture, their programs are usually a mere 100 >hours. > >See article: International Academy of Medical Acupuncture Inc. (IAMA) > >Note: Both article's will interest you, in reviewing the education >and clinical training or lack of, that other health care >professionals have in regards to their training in acupuncture. > >I chose these 2 associations since they are major associations in >training other health care professionals. > >Nationally accredited acupuncture schools provide a minimum of 1725 >hours of training in their educational programs for acupuncture and >a minimum of 2175 hours in their programs of Oriental medicine. >These hours also constitute the educational requirements for the >licensing of Acupuncturists in most states. > >The American Association of Oriental Medicine (AAOM) has adopted the >position that anyone practicing acupuncture without certification as >a Diplomate in Acupuncture (Dipl. Ac.) from the National >Certification Commission for Acupuncture and Oriental Medicine >(NCCAOM), or an equivalent state license as an Acupuncturist, >practices below the prevailing standards of minimum competency for >acupuncture. > >In speaking to other healthcare providers (Medical Doctors, >Chiropractors, etc.) regarding this topic of administrating >acupuncture treatment, several professionals feel that performing >acupuncture is not in their scope of practice due to the higher >standards of education and clinical training that an acupuncturist >must study. > >The other set of healthcare providers (Medical Doctors, >Chiropractors, etc.) who do acupuncture, feel they have this right >to perform acupuncture because the education they received may have >included more hours of education than acupuncturists. > >I point out how the education and clinical training of both >professions are completely vast and different. > >These professional's (Medical Doctors, Chiropractors, etc.) also >like to say they are performing medical acupuncture, meridian >acupuncture, scientific acupuncture, etc. By saying this, they feel >they are now entitled to do acupuncture. > >I feel that since I have been educated and received degree's in both >systems of health care, it is my opinion that unless a healthcare >professional has received adequate training in acupuncture it poses >a health risk as well as success of the clinical outcome of the >treatment. > >The question to ask yourself is, do I want a healthcare professional >performing acupuncture on me who is not adeqently trained. > >The ultimate choice that must be made, is by you as the patient > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2005 Report Share Posted July 7, 2005 The second part of the first sentence cited below, the part I've underlined, does not make sense. Final sentence contains comma fault, ie. no comma required. Also, plural of degree is degrees. No apostrophe. Cheers, editors anon. I feel that since I have been educated and received degree's in both systems of health care, it is my opinion that unless a healthcare professional has received adequate training in acupuncture it poses a health risk as well as success of the clinical outcome of the treatment. .... The ultimate choice that must be made, is by you as the patient Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2005 Report Share Posted July 7, 2005 Thank you, whoever you are, for pointing out the lack of need for an apostrophe. I have been noticing a shocking proliferation of apostrophes everywhere! Why? They are trouble to put in, so why put them in when not needed? It has become almost commonplace to see usage like " the school and it's faculty... " or to see misplaced apostrophes, as in, " student's work is overseen by the clinic manager... " I know this doesn't pertain to herbs, but it does pertain to effective communication and we are a learned body, are we not? Julie - snakeoil.works Thursday, July 07, 2005 10:05 PM Re: Practice of acupuncture The second part of the first sentence cited below, the part I've underlined, does not make sense. Final sentence contains comma fault, ie. no comma required. Also, plural of degree is degrees. No apostrophe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2005 Report Share Posted July 8, 2005 I know. It is truly shocking. It is the new grammatical relativism. It must be from the 60's - that idea that anybody can just write however they damn please and everybody else better understand them. Or was it the 70's? Whatever. Sometimes I wonder how foreigners who are well trained in precise grammar and punctuation come here and understand what the fagoo we Americans are talking about. It buggers the imagination. Uh, I mean beggers. I figure, with these hurdles, I will never be a speed reader. Sleepless in Manhattan, Ann Thank you, whoever you are, for pointing out the lack of need for an apostrophe. I have been noticing a shocking proliferation of apostrophes everywhere! Why? They are trouble to put in, so why put them in when not needed? It has become almost commonplace to see usage like " the school and it's faculty... " or to see misplaced apostrophes, as in, " student's work is overseen by the clinic manager... " I know this doesn't pertain to herbs, but it does pertain to effective communication and we are a learned body, are we not? Julie - snakeoil.works Thursday, July 07, 2005 10:05 PM Re: Practice of acupuncture The second part of the first sentence cited below, the part I've underlined, does not make sense. Final sentence contains comma fault, ie. no comma required. Also, plural of degree is degrees. No apostrophe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2005 Report Share Posted July 9, 2005 Thanks for the suggestion. I was unable to see the portion that you underlined, could you put it in bold so I can see what you are refering to: " The second part of the first sentence cited below, the part I've underlined, does not make sense. " Thanks Brian snakeoil.works wrote: The second part of the first sentence cited below, the part I've underlined, does not make sense. Final sentence contains comma fault, ie. no comma required. Also, plural of degree is degrees. No apostrophe. Cheers, editors anon. I feel that since I have been educated and received degree's in both systems of health care, it is my opinion that unless a healthcare professional has received adequate training in acupuncture it poses a health risk as well as success of the clinical outcome of the treatment. .... The ultimate choice that must be made, is by you as the patient Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2005 Report Share Posted July 12, 2005 Hi Brian, Sorry my underlining feature did not show up in the cha transfer(and I doubt bold would do better). Here is the line: " it is my opinion that unless a healthcare professional has received adequate training in acupuncture/ it poses a health risk as well as / success of the clinical outcome of the treatment. " I added slashes between main clauses to help illustrate the lack of grammatical continuity. At least to me. The unclarity should now be clear. :-) And then, to really whip up the cows, we come to that age-old question: what the meaning of " it " is.(Don't be abashed, discussions of this ilk have reached the highest levels of human governance.) Colloquially your second 'it' here is ok and forgivable in the arena of, say, press conferences. But written, it has no nominative antecedent and thus 'there is posed a health risk', for example, would be preferred. And then we have to stumble into the 'success' part. I assume(don't wanna go there) you mean 'risk to the success of...'. So we must repeat the 'risk', or put the 'risk' first('risk to health as well as to clinical success of Tx'). Or you could be fancy and use 'jeopardize'. Hope this is helpful, May all your sentences be clear enough to eat peaches by, Ann Thanks for the suggestion. I was unable to see the portion that you underlined, could you put it in bold so I can see what you are refering to: " The second part of the first sentence cited below, the part I've underlined, does not make sense. " Thanks Brian snakeoil.works wrote: The second part of the first sentence cited below, the part I've underlined, does not make sense. Final sentence contains comma fault, ie. no comma required. Also, plural of degree is degrees. No apostrophe. Cheers, editors anon. I feel that since I have been educated and received degree's in both systems of health care, it is my opinion that unless a healthcare professional has received adequate training in acupuncture it poses a health risk as well as success of the clinical outcome of the treatment. .... The ultimate choice that must be made, is by you as the patient Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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