more and more yin? [was measles and innoculations

[Guest guest]

> Where I live, Chicago, people tend to drive themselves to yin

deficient.

> Yin deficient should not be confused with yang excess.

> The yang only appears to be in excess because yin is so much

> deficient.

> What the doctor might be witnessing and interpreting as excess yin is

> a population with a false heat.

>

> Penel

 

I have posted on this subject before but i feel that we need to repeat

it as much as possible because many do not understand it.

 

Yin/fire is one of the most important syndromes of modern people - we

suffer from yin defeciency (we have exhausted our resources) but have

many heat symptoms so many interpret this to mean that we have yang

excess - this is most often the opposite of the case. What is referred

to as excess yang is either excess acid conditions or it is very

defecient yin or it can be both. This is often seen - high acid (false

heat)with yin defeciency. This syndrome will be incountered in most of

the modern difficult to resolve cases. Removal of the false heat is

difficult and quite a challenge (because it means one must change

basic dietary patterns which are causing most of this acid-this is not

easy for most people)- but the building of the yin is the most

difficult part of this equation. Most of these 'yin/fire' cases

actually have defeciency of both yin and yang.

 

Theraputicly the most important point is that such cases will be made

worse by giving Qi or Yang building substances (which is often done).

There is no question of bulding Qi and Yang in a body that does not

have suffecient Yin to support it. Such attempts are stressful and

make symptoms worse. This happens as an example when a person with

hypertension takes Qi r Yang substances to build energy - instead we

often will see the patients developing dangerous hypertension

(especially high systolic pressure). A hypometabolic person must build

basic yin functions before asking the body to perform at a higher more

energetic level.

 

If one is taking Qi or Yang building substances and not doing well

this is the reason - and one will have to start with the basics. Inthe

human body yin is the substance of our bodies - including hormonal

functions - without these functions performing their duties we can not

live an active dynamic life.

 

I find many western people want to have power - but one must have the

foundation to express this power before it will be possible to achieve

it. As we age the cultavation of the Yin and the Shen are infinatetly

more important than power. Those who are weak and or mentally unstable

with severe energy problems must emphasize the Yin and the Shen.

Relaxation and a calm peacefulnature is a much better criteria for

health than power and sexual stamina. If one wants success as ahuman

beng they must care for and cultivate the Yin and Shen this will allow

one to work on Qi which will give us the focus to properly express

Yang.

 

When working on recovery we must not get the cart before the horse.

The horse is Yin.

[Guest guest]

Vinod:

 

What is the best way to treat this then? Can you

recommend food, herbs, acupoints?

 

Thanks, Jack

 

--- Vinod Kumar <vinod3x3 wrote:

 

> > Where I live, Chicago, people tend to drive

> themselves to yin

> deficient.

> > Yin deficient should not be confused with yang

> excess.

> > The yang only appears to be in excess because yin

> is so much

> > deficient.

> > What the doctor might be witnessing and

> interpreting as excess yin is

> > a population with a false heat.

> >

> > Penel

>

> I have posted on this subject before but i feel that

> we need to repeat

> it as much as possible because many do not

> understand it.

>

> Yin/fire is one of the most important syndromes of

> modern people - we

> suffer from yin defeciency (we have exhausted our

> resources) but have

> many heat symptoms so many interpret this to mean

> that we have yang

> excess - this is most often the opposite of the

> case. What is referred

> to as excess yang is either excess acid conditions

> or it is very

> defecient yin or it can be both. This is often seen

> - high acid (false

> heat)with yin defeciency. This syndrome will be

> incountered in most of

> the modern difficult to resolve cases. Removal of

> the false heat is

> difficult and quite a challenge (because it means

> one must change

> basic dietary patterns which are causing most of

> this acid-this is not

> easy for most people)- but the building of the yin

> is the most

> difficult part of this equation. Most of these

> 'yin/fire' cases

> actually have defeciency of both yin and yang.

>

> Theraputicly the most important point is that such

> cases will be made

> worse by giving Qi or Yang building substances

> (which is often done).

> There is no question of bulding Qi and Yang in a

> body that does not

> have suffecient Yin to support it. Such attempts are

> stressful and

> make symptoms worse. This happens as an example when

> a person with

> hypertension takes Qi r Yang substances to build

> energy - instead we

> often will see the patients developing dangerous

> hypertension

> (especially high systolic pressure). A hypometabolic

> person must build

> basic yin functions before asking the body to

> perform at a higher more

> energetic level.

>

> If one is taking Qi or Yang building substances and

> not doing well

> this is the reason - and one will have to start with

> the basics. Inthe

> human body yin is the substance of our bodies -

> including hormonal

> functions - without these functions performing their

> duties we can not

> live an active dynamic life.

>

> I find many western people want to have power - but

> one must have the

> foundation to express this power before it will be

> possible to achieve

> it. As we age the cultavation of the Yin and the

> Shen are infinatetly

> more important than power. Those who are weak and or

> mentally unstable

> with severe energy problems must emphasize the Yin

> and the Shen.

> Relaxation and a calm peacefulnature is a much

> better criteria for

> health than power and sexual stamina. If one wants

> success as ahuman

> beng they must care for and cultivate the Yin and

> Shen this will allow

> one to work on Qi which will give us the focus to

> properly express

> Yang.

>

> When working on recovery we must not get the cart

> before the horse.

> The horse is Yin.

>

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

> Yin/fire is one of the most important syndromes of modern people - we

> suffer from yin defeciency (we have exhausted our resources) but have

> many heat symptoms so many interpret this to mean that we have yang

> excess - this is most often the opposite of the case. What is referred

> to as excess yang is either excess acid conditions or it is very

> defecient yin or it can be both.

 

Very interesting - excess acidity seems to feature quite strongly in

metabolic syndromes, both human and equine.

 

> Theraputicly the most important point is that such cases will be made

> worse by giving Qi or Yang building substances (which is often done).

 

Yes, that was inflicted on me and my horse with disastrous onsequences for

both.

 

> A hypometabolic person must build

> basic yin functions before asking the body to perform at a higher more

> energetic level.

 

Could you define some of those 'yin functions' in western terms for us? The

problem I seemed to come up against was practitioners seeing hypometabolic

function, especially with excess weight, almost as an excess of yin, 'yin

pathogen' I was told. Could an excess of dampness in one area mask a

depletion of yin at a deeper level? That would make sense of the failure in

differentiation.

 

> When working on recovery we must not get the cart before the horse.

> The horse is Yin.

 

LOL, more pertinent that you know!

 

Jackie

 

 

 

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