Sick woman.

[Guest guest]

Tks muchly for your informative post. l. Does this woman truly want

to get well? 2. Is she maybe " just " mad at her parents and to

punish

them is going to show them how sick she is? (I.E., it's their fault

she's feeling lousy.) I was never extremely ill, but during the time

when I let 3 family members ride all over me, I had the least energy

and felt bad physically. After I spoke my piece to them, it was like

one big stone had been removed from the road in front of me. (There

are still some smaller stones!)

 

When I gave the example of Mg and Si, I was just pulling nutrients

out

of a hat to make my point that minerals are beginning to be

recognized

by regular doctors. I don't have a clue as to whether or not these 2

minerals would be helpful for constellation of symptoms. Sorry. Also,

I get the feeling that this woman needs more contact with wild nature.

You know, primeval forest, seeing wild animals where they live,

gathering sticks and making a fire, etc.

[Guest guest]

Chinese Traditional Medicine , " Mrs. Barley "

<chosenbarley> wrote:

> Tks muchly for your informative post. l. Does this woman truly

want

> to get well?

 

I think so. She's tried everything that allopathic medicine has to

offer. Unfortunately, the same imbalances that result in the

physical problems also make it hard for her to think outside the box.

 

> 2. Is she maybe " just " mad at her parents and to

> punish

> them is going to show them how sick she is? (I.E., it's their

fault

> she's feeling lousy.)

 

The TCM understanding of the mind-body (-emotions-spirit) connection

is a lot more sophisticated than that in the West. I break it down

into components because most of the readers on here are Westerners

who think in those terms. In order to convey the differences, I

first break it down into separate components. But the Chinese

don't. They take it for granted that Organ imbalances are going to

have different types of manifestations. It's the holistic whole for

them.

 

In the West we hear a lot about how emotions can make one sick. Lip

service is given to the concept that certain illnesses and medical

conditions will have psycholocial as well as physical symptoms. But

this wasn't always the case in the West. Doctors and nurses used to

be trained to use emotions as a diagnostic guide. For example,

patients who come across as angry frequently are in pain. Patients

who are anxious - more anxious than is usual when consulting a

doctor - may be suffering from asthma or some other breathing

disorder. The asthma is so slight that they may not consciously

realize they are having trouble breathing, but subconsciously they

do. There's nothing quite like having trouble breathing - even

slight problems - to cause a person to feel anxious.

 

Each of the Organs is particularly vulnerable to one or more

emotions. For example, the Kidneys to fear and fright. The Spleen

to pensiveness and obsessing. The Liver to anger and frustration.

The Lungs to grief (and to letting go issues). The Heart to joy

(mania).

 

Here's where TCM gets really sophisticated.It recognizes that once

imbalance occurs and is allowed to continue, the person is going to

be more prone to feeling that particular emotion. It doesn't matter

what the initial cause of the imbalance was - physical truma,

emotional, infectious, some toxin, dietary excess, etc. Once

imbalance occurs and continues, the person is going to be more prone

to feel the emotion(s) associated with the Organ which is in

imbalance.

 

This can lead to a snowballing situation. Take for example the

Liver and anger. Once there is Liver imbalance, the person is more

inclined to feel anger. The anger can put the Liver into more

imbalance which results in the person being even more prone to feel

anger. It can be a snowballing situation.

 

Why are people in pain so frequently angry? Because one of the

possible causes of pain is Qi Stagnation. The Liver has a great

deal to do with the smooth flow of Qi throughout the body. When Qi

is blocked, there is pain. Anger and frustration aren't the only

things that can cause Qi to Stagnate. Blood Stasis can lead to it.

So can Cold.

 

BTW, one of the medical conditions in which healers do tend to see

Liver Qi Stagnation a lot is CFIDS (Chronic Fatigue Immune

Dysfunction Syndrome). The Liver is vulnerable to both anger and

frustration. CFIDS can be one of the most frustrating medical

conditions there is when it follows the up and down, better some

days but worse on others pattern. The PWCs (People With CFIDS)who

have the feeling the same amount of lousy all the time often find

that easier to accept than the ones who have the up and down

pattern. The up and down pattern does tend to introduce a lot of

opportunies to feel frustration.

 

> I was never extremely ill, but during the time

> when I let 3 family members ride all over me, I had the least

energy

> and felt bad physically. After I spoke my piece to them, it was

like

> one big stone had been removed from the road in front of me.

(There

> are still some smaller stones!)

 

One antidote to Lung issues (grief, issues involving letting go,

some cases of depression, etc.) is to get angry. Doctors in China

sometimes will provoke an emotion in a patient as an antidote to

imbalance.

 

> When I gave the example of Mg and Si, I was just pulling nutrients

> out

> of a hat to make my point that minerals are beginning to be

> recognized

> by regular doctors. I don't have a clue as to whether or not

these 2

> minerals would be helpful for constellation of symptoms.

 

No need to be sorry. One of the minerals you pulled out of thin air

just happens to be one which has helped a lot of PWCs. Magnesium.

It was like a miracle drug to me. I had to have the injections for a

few years because I was so sick I couldn't absorb enough in pill

form. Not even with malic acid which increases Mg absorption. Now

I've improved to the point where I can take the pills.

 

> Sorry. Also,

> I get the feeling that this woman needs more contact with wild

nature.

> You know, primeval forest, seeing wild animals where they live,

> gathering sticks and making a fire, etc.

 

She's living in a rural setting. However, her recent back surgery

precludes her getting out for a while.