Surgery/meridians

[Guest guest]

Howdy, Madam Dragon. You referred to your own kidney symptoms that

you

didn't believe were important, one being " profuse and clear

urination " . Do you actually mean " colorless " ? Or, by " clear " , do

you

mean " not cloudy " . I don't think our urine should be cloudy.

 

Anyway, I know a middle aged woman who told me she made herself drink

8

(at least) 8-oz. glasses of water a day. I said (maybe it was none

of

my business, tho) that unless you are really feeling a need for that

much water from working outdoors in the hot sun all day, it might not

be a good idea. Well, she said she wanted to have colorless urine

and

made sure she obtained it by drinking all that water. There are some

healthy living advisors out there who tell people that colorless

urine

is one sign you should have. Now what do you think of that, because

I

sure don't agree.

[Guest guest]

Chinese Traditional Medicine , " Mrs. Barley "

<chosenbarley> wrote:

> You referred to your own kidney symptoms that

> you

> didn't believe were important, one being " profuse and clear

> urination " . Do you actually mean " colorless " ?

 

I should have said colorless.

 

I also had an aversion to drinking anything but hot liquids like

soup. When I did feel thirsty - which wasn't that often.

 

Many textbooks teach that not feeling thirsty very often and

preferring hot liquids like soup is a symptom of Kidney Yang

Deficiency, and having an aversion to drinking is a symptom of

Spleen Deficiency. But it can also be a symptom of Kidney Yang

Deficiency when a person is cooled down further by room temperature

liquids. A couple of sips of room temperature water, and I was

chilled worse than I had been.

 

Eventually I started having dehydration problems. Doctors would ask

me if I was drinking enough liquids, and I would say " yes " because I

was drinking when I felt thirsty. I just didn't feel thirsty that

much. And when I did, it was a very mild thirst that a few sips

would satisfy. Finally a nurse realized what was happening, did some

tests, led me out to a water cooler, handed me a cup, and

said, " Drink until you feel better. " I was skeptical, but did as

she said. I started feeling better. She taught me the signs of

dehydration, and when they started I knew to drink even though I

didn't feel thirsty. I had to force the water down.

 

Eventually I started drinking before the symptoms appeared to

prevent them from appearing. I was still having to force it down.

After I started seeing the TCM herbalist, after several months I

finally started feeling more thirsty. Still not normal but more than

I had. I'm much improved today, but once in a while, I sometimes

have problems with aversion to drinking. Especially during cold

weather.

 

The amount of water a person needs varies according to the

individual, the time of the year, the environment, how active the

person is, etc. At the time I was having the worst problems, I was

living in a desert area. Very dehydrating environment. I didn't

start to feel warm until it warmed up to the 80s F. During the

winter the only way I could warm up was to take several hot baths

per day. And the winters were mild.

 

Sometimes I would sleep under a heavy quilt even in June. I felt

sleepy most of the time. The fatigue I had was crushing. I had

breathing problems due to the Kidney Deficiency. (Kidneys Refusing

to Receive Qi is a variation of Kidney Yang Deficiency.)

 

I have a history of thyroid problems (hypothyroidism except for one

time when I was hyperthyroid) which are related to bouts of

mononucleosis (glandular fever) and mono-like diseases. When I was

on thyroid medication, I would feel better than I had, but not good

enough. Once blood levels of thyroid hormones were normal, doctors

were at a lost to explain why I still felt cold and still had many

of the other problems associated with hypothyroidism. Hypothyroidism

and Kidney Yang Deficiency are not the same thing, though they

frequently occur together and symptoms can overlap. (BTW, there's a

lot of discussions in the message base on thyroid problems. There's

also been a lot of discoveries about the thyroid in Western

allopathic medicine since the last time I had to be on thyroid

replacement hormone.)

 

One of the herbs that helped me a lot was ginger. Dried ginger is

classified as an herb to warm the Interior. During my first

consultation with the herbalist, when he was mixing up the bags of

herbs I would make into tea, he broke off a piece of ginger and told

me to chew it. Within a few minutes I could tell it was helping me

and something I needed. In addition to the various formulas he had

me on, I drank a lot of ginger tea. It gave me a lift like others

describe coffee giving them. It was so warming. But it was still

several months before I could feel warmth when I touched my hands to

my face. Kidney Yang Deficiency can take a long time to treat. There

was very marked improvement within 3 weeks of starting on the

formulas, but a lot still needed to improve.

 

> be a good idea. Well, she said she wanted to have colorless urine

> and

> made sure she obtained it by drinking all that water. There are

some

> healthy living advisors out there who tell people that colorless

> urine

> is one sign you should have. Now what do you think of that,

because

> I

> sure don't agree.

 

I don't agree too. There's also a risk involved with drinking too

much water if the person doesn't eat enough. If the electrolytes in

the blood get too dilute, it can trigger seizures.

 

Now if the urine is very dark and concentrated, and the person

doesn't go to the bathroom enough, that can be a symptom of Kidney

Yin Deficiency. Normal urine is the color of straw. If the person is

having to go to the bathroom too much and is producing large amounts

of colorless urine without having drank excessive amounts of

liquids, that can be a symptom of Kidney Yang Deficiency.

 

At one point (before seeing the herbalist) I developed symptoms of

polycythemia vera. Too many red blood cells. I had to go to the ER

on a Sunday morning because of breathing problems. Again, it was a

nurse who told me what I could do to help myself until I could see a

doctor. The ER doctor had no advice or help to offer besides

telling me to see my doctor and writing " polycythemia vera? " on the

form. Anyway, she told me to drink more water to dilute my blood.

So I started to force myself to drink when I got home. I couldn't

get half a cup down before I was having to go to the bathroom. But I

did start to breathe a little easier.

 

I had my husband massage my back because it was hurting. He massaged

a lot of the pain out in between trips to the bathroom. My breathing

eased to the point where I was able to take a nap. When I woke up I

felt a lot better.

 

I remember being so cold prior to that trip to the ER. Even though

it was late June, I was under a quilt the night before. Because the

breathing problems were worse when I laid down, I had slept in a

recliner. I was still cold and wrapped in that quilt the next

morning.

 

Looking back, all this is so obvious and so related. The back

problems, the being cold in June, the breathing problems, the

extreme lack of energy, the profuse and colorless urination, the

frequency of urination, the loss of libido, the aversion to drinking

any liquids except for hot soups, etc. But at the time it was a very

scary mystery.

 

A few weeks after this, I saw the TCM healer.

 

BTW, I've looked for examples of polycythemia vera in TCM

literature, and so far have found only one case written up in

English. It was a man, and he had Heat problems.

[Guest guest]

A note of interest about the diagnostics of dr Holmes. I checked my feet

(reflexology) to see if there was a corresponding tenderness in the Lung /chest

/breast area and ther is it is slighty swollen and a bit numb. Does this

indicate qi deficiency in the lung??

Rabiah

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

facinating! thak you, it is the left foot by the way in case you can deduce

anything else from that LOL

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

swollen could mean:

qi enters LU but does not wholly leave

breath enters LU but does not wholly leave

fluid enters LU but does not wholly leave

blood enters LU but does not wholly leave

 

numb would mean some Earth encroaching on LU

 

if it is on L foot, something is wrong with L LU, chest, breast

if it is on R foot, something is wrong with R LU, chest, breast

if it is on R & L foot, something is wrong with R & L LU, chest, breast

 

if it is on L foot, treat only that side

if it is on R foot, treat only that side

if it is on L & R foot, treat both the sides

 

if the swollen area feels somewhat dry, LU is Dry

if the swollen area feels somewhat wet, LU is Wet

if the swollen area feels somewhat hot, LU is Heated

if the swollen area feels somewhat cold, LU is Cold

if the swollen area feels somewhat damp, LU is Damp

 

Dry will account for a dry choking cough you ,may have had at some time

in life

 

very many deductions can come of the finding on foot

 

by 5 E usage when the spot on foot disappears the knees will have improved

 

holmes

www.acu-free.com

 

 

 

 

 

Remediesbyrabiah wrote:

 

>A note of interest about the diagnostics of dr Holmes. I checked my feet

>(reflexology) to see if there was a corresponding tenderness in the Lung /chest

>/breast area and ther is it is slighty swollen and a bit numb. Does this

>indicate qi deficiency in the lung??

>Rabiah

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