Guest guest Posted April 21, 2005 Report Share Posted April 21, 2005 Sorry, I'm new at this, I'll try this again. I'm searching for a great TCM school and I'm having problems finding helpful information comparing schools. I've started looking at, and requested information from many of, the ACAOM accredited schools; but I'm not sure how to narrow my search further. I have no problem moving and any insight/advice would be GREATLY appreciated. Thanks for your help!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2005 Report Share Posted April 21, 2005 Hi, Elle: where do you live now, and what would you like to accomplish with TCM? Any ideas of specialties or what you hope to do? Regards, Jack --- ellepvh <ellepvh wrote: > > > Sorry, I'm new at this, I'll try this again. > I'm searching for a great TCM school and I'm having > problems finding > helpful information comparing schools. I've started > looking at, and > requested information from many of, the ACAOM > accredited schools; but > I'm not sure how to narrow my search further. I have > no problem moving > and any insight/advice would be GREATLY appreciated. > Thanks for your help!!! > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2005 Report Share Posted April 21, 2005 Michelle: It's real important to learn things the right way the first time, to build a solid foundation. If you learn a mediocre way, it's hard to learn the right way. Better to learn Five Elements from the begining, so you want a school that incorporates all that in the curriculum. Will try to find a school resource list tomorrow. Regards, Jack --- Karen Peterson <kpeterha wrote: > > I go to the clinic at the Pacific College of > Oriental Medicine in San > Diego, CA. If you go to their web site, it will > show you where all of > their campuses are located. Personally, I would > never leave San Diego > (born and raised), but I think there is a campus in > New York. > > http://www.pacificcollege.edu/ > > Karen in San Diego > > Michelle Legatt wrote: > > > > > Hello, > > I'm about to graduate in May with a chemistry > degree > > but I'm looking forward to studying TCM in the > fall, > > unfortunately I haven't decided on a school yet. > Any > > advice on the best schools throughout the nation > would > > be great. I have only recently become incredibly > > interested in the five element theory but I > haven't > > been able very much information on the TCM schools > > that incorporate this theory. Is studying this > theory > > something that is usually done after 'traditional' > TCM > > studies? > > Thanks for any advice you can give you on schools; > I'm > > willing to move anywhere! > > ~ELle > > > > --- victoria_dragon <victoria_dragon > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Chinese Traditional Medicine , " das4145 " > > > <asenat45@h...> wrote: > > > > I was reading in the Chinese Traditional Medicine archives > > > starting with message > > > 13, > > > > Letter from China, and message 21, Chinese > Food > > > Cures. These > > > threads > > > > were extremely interesting but I've come to > > > realized that this is a > > > > complex subject. Does Henry C. Lu's " Chinese > > > Natural Cures " explain > > > > the five elements in simplied terms? > > > > > > I want to tell the TCM students on the list that > I > > > highly recommend > > > learning 5 Element Theory. Learning 5 Element > > > Theory can give you > > > that extra edge when it comes to treatment - > > > especially the treatment > > > of " knotty " (complex) cases. Knowing 5 Element > > > Theory can give one a > > > different (and sometimes more effective) > approach. > > > (More about that > > > in a moment.) > > > > > > It's also possible using 5 Element Theory to > figure > > > out some acupoints > > > that will be successful in treating something. > > > Voice of experience > > > here. When I started doing acupressure on myself > for > > > some very severe > > > headaches, one of the points I used was Small > > > Intestine 3 based on 5 > > > Element Theory. It helped a lot. SI 3 is not one > of > > > the points > > > recommended in general texts on treating > headaches > > > with TCM. But later > > > on when I had access to more in-depth material, > I > > > saw that SI 3 is > > > used to treat certain headaches. By knowing and > > > using 5 Element > > > Theory, I didn't have to wait until I had access > to > > > more in-depth > > > information and stumbled across it. In between > > > headaches. > > > > > > Dagmar's Letters from China are excellent. I > highly > > > recommend them. > > > Especially the material on the elements. They > can > > > help readers get > > > a " feel " for the elements and how to apply this > > > knowledge in healing. > > > > > > The 5 Elements are Wood, Fire, Earth, Metal, and > > > Water. The order is > > > important (as readers will see in a moment). > > > > > > Each of the Elements has 2 Organs associated > with it > > > (except for Fire > > > which has 4). To keep this simple, I'm only > going > > > to list the Yin > > > Organ associated with each Element and not the > Yang > > > Organ. The Yin > > > Organs are: Wood (Liver), Fire (Heart), Earth > > > (Spleen), Metal > > > (Lungs), and Water (Kidneys). Again, note the > order > > > of the sequence - > > > Wood, Fire, Earth, Metal, and Water. > > > > > > 5 Element Theory recognizes something called the > > > " Mother-Son " > > > relationship. Wood is the " mother " of Fire, > Fire is > > > the " mother " of > > > Earth, Earth is the " mother " of Metal, Metal is > the > > > " mother " of Water, > > > and Water is the " mother " of Wood. (A one time > > > there was a picture of > > > this in the Files section. Hopefully it's still > > > there.) > > > > > > Anyway, whatever is done to the Mother will > affect > > > the Son in the same > > > way. If one tonifies Wood, Fire will also be > > > tonified. If one sedates > > > Metal, Water will also be sedated. Mother-Son. > > > > > > One of the best examples of the Mother-Son > > > relationship and its > > > treatment is Liver Yin Deficiency. Water > (Kidneys) > > > is the mother of > > > Wood (Liver). The best way (usually) to treat > Liver > > > Yin Deficiency is > > > to tonify the Kidney Yin. Considering that the > > > Kidneys supply Yin > > > (and Yang) to the rest of the body (including > the > > > Liver), treating the > > > Mother is especially important in this case. > > > > > > Supplementing Kidney Yin and strengthening the > > > Kidneys in order to > > > treat Liver Yin Deficiency is a very simple > example > > > of 5 Elements. > > > However, there are some scenarios in which > treating > > > the Son directly > > > would cause problems in another Element and its > > > Organ. In these cases, > > > treating the Mother is a way around this > problem. > > > Let's say the Son > > > needs to be tonified, but doing so directly > would > > > weaken another Organ > > > which is already too weak. (The > Victor-Vanquished > > > relationship.) The > > > way around this is to tonify the Mother. Since > > > whatever one does to > > > the Mother also affects the Son in the same way, > the > > > Son gets tonified > > > but without the problems to the Organ which > would be > > > suppressed more > > > if the Son was tonified directly. (I'm > simplifying > > > things a lot here.) > > > > > > For readers who are interested in Feng Shui, > you'll > > > be seeing 5 > > > Element Theory a lot if you go into Feng Shui in > > > detail. Feng Shui is > === message truncated === Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2005 Report Share Posted April 21, 2005 I'm currently finishing my undergraduate degree in Arkansas, I'm originally from Minnesota, but I don't necessarily want to go to school in either those locations unless that is where the best school, for me, is. I'm especially interested in how acupuncture, herbs and tui na can help athletes (I've been an athlete my entire life, most recently, and still, a pole vaulter), but I also want to help those with chronic pain. I suffered from severe chronic pain for almost 3 years and I'm still incredibly discouraged with how the western medical community addresses these issues, and I truly feel there is a better way by addressing the whole body, mind and spirit. Thanks for your help!!! --- Jack Sweeney <mojavecowboy wrote: > > Hi, Elle: > > where do you live now, and what would you like to > accomplish with TCM? Any ideas of specialties or > what > you hope to do? > > Regards, Jack > > --- ellepvh <ellepvh wrote: > > > > > > Sorry, I'm new at this, I'll try this again. > > I'm searching for a great TCM school and I'm > having > > problems finding > > helpful information comparing schools. I've > started > > looking at, and > > requested information from many of, the ACAOM > > accredited schools; but > > I'm not sure how to narrow my search further. I > have > > no problem moving > > and any insight/advice would be GREATLY > appreciated. > > Thanks for your help!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > protection around > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2005 Report Share Posted April 22, 2005 " ellepvh " <ellepvh: > I've started looking at, and > requested information from many of, the ACAOM accredited schools; but > I'm not sure how to narrow my search further. I have no problem moving > and any insight/advice would be GREATLY appreciated. Where would you like to practice after you graduate? Since the laws vary from state to state, find out what is required to practice in the state(s) of your choosing, and make sure that any school that you might attend will meet those requirements. That includes making sure that you'll have enough clinic hours, have the background to pass the board exams, etc. Another point would be to check how well classes are scheduled at the school of your choice. There are 2 TCM schools in my area. I've heard from many students that one of the schools has a lot of scheduling problems, making it difficult to students to get the required classes. The other school doesn't seem to have a problem with that, (at least I haven't had any problems with scheduling my classes, and it seems like my classmates haven't experienced that, either.) I'd suggest spending some time at a school that you might like to attend. Sit in on some classes, spend some time in the clinic, talk to current students, and get a feel for whether the school is a good fit for you. And, whatever your final decision is--good luck with your studies! Jeri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2005 Report Share Posted April 22, 2005 Michelle: I'm most familiar with the LA schools. Yo San in Marina del Rey is good, Emperor's, a few others there. You may want to check their websites, as well as the San Diego school. Chronic pain is a good area, I'm just getting through with treatments for sciatica. Good luck, Jack --- Michelle Legatt <ellepvh wrote: > > > I'm currently finishing my undergraduate degree in > Arkansas, I'm originally from Minnesota, but I don't > necessarily want to go to school in either those > locations unless that is where the best school, for > me, is. > > I'm especially interested in how acupuncture, herbs > and tui na can help athletes (I've been an athlete > my > entire life, most recently, and still, a pole > vaulter), but I also want to help those with chronic > pain. I suffered from severe chronic pain for almost > 3 > years and I'm still incredibly discouraged with how > the western medical community addresses these > issues, > and I truly feel there is a better way by addressing > the whole body, mind and spirit. > > Thanks for your help!!! > > --- Jack Sweeney <mojavecowboy wrote: > > > > Hi, Elle: > > > > where do you live now, and what would you like to > > accomplish with TCM? Any ideas of specialties or > > what > > you hope to do? > > > > Regards, Jack > > > > --- ellepvh <ellepvh wrote: > > > > > > > > > Sorry, I'm new at this, I'll try this again. > > > I'm searching for a great TCM school and I'm > > having > > > problems finding > > > helpful information comparing schools. I've > > started > > > looking at, and > > > requested information from many of, the ACAOM > > > accredited schools; but > > > I'm not sure how to narrow my search further. I > > have > > > no problem moving > > > and any insight/advice would be GREATLY > > appreciated. > > > Thanks for your help!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > > protection around > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > protection around > > > > > Read only the mail you want - Mail SpamGuard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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