Qigong, herb and acupuncture case...

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Interesting case:

 

" A 40 year old lady who suffered from bronchitis decided to learn

 

qi

gong, but instead of finding a good teacher, she tried to teach

herself from books on the subject.

After practising for a while, she found that rather than

increasing,

her energy became worse. Even more worrying, she could not sleep

because at night her skin - especially that on her face - became

very

hot and burning. Her back, on the other hand, was very cold from

top

to bottom.

She had not concentrated her qi with her qi gong practice, but

dispersed it! Lacking the guidance which an experienced qi gong

teacher could provide at the first sign of any problems, she had

fouled up the circulation of the Du and Ren channels. Yin and

yang

were both deficient by this stage.

Looking for relief, she tried Chinese herbs for more than a year,

 

without success. Finally she ended up at our Outpatients Clinic

at

the Zhejiang TCM College.

 

Questioning her history soon revealed that this was a channel

problem - Du and Ren - rather than a zang-fu condition. Thus the

points chosen were restricted to these channels:

 

Dazhui DU-14 Shao Shan Huo (Burning Mountain method)

Mingmen DU-4 Shao Shan Huo (Burning Mountain method)

Guanyuan REN-4 even method

 

Within two treatments she felt better than she had at any time

during

the herbal treatment: the cold sensation over the back was

relieved

even after the first treatment, her energy improved, and she

could

now sleep without feeling hot.

Comment

The case is notable for the precision of diagnosis, and elegance

of

the selected treatment. My teacher at the time was the head of

the

Zhejiang TCM College's acupuncture needle manipulation section,

Dr.

Zhu Ming-Qing (since famous internationally for his dramatic

scalp

needling techniques). He commented laconically that practicing qi

 

gong without a teacher was crazy, " but Guanyuan helps to open the

 

Xiao Zhou Tian (Minor Heavenly Orbit) " .

He also pointed out that this case illustrated the fallacy of the

 

proposition that " mild stimulation equals tonification, and heavy

 

stimulation equals reduction " . Expanding upon this, Dr. Zhu

explained

that " Bu and Xie " refer to both

a) the needle manipulation method, and

b) the effect achieved

 

In this case, for example, Burning Mountain achieved a tonifying

effect, even though it is a strong technique. On the other hand,

he

said, locally acute pain will either be needled very lightly or

not

be needled at all, opting instead for distal points. He

explained:

" In Western medicine locally acute pain is called `spasm', in

Chinese

medicine it is called `cold'. Heavy needling or even heavy

massage

will cause more spasm. Light needling can relieve the pain, so

the

effect is `xie': reduction. Although the stimulation is light,

the

`xie' is the expulsion of the cold. "

Therefore, he concluded, most practitioners when recording a case

 

and

the technique used will write " tonification (light

stimulation) " , " tonification (Burning Mountain) " and so on, so

that

everyone knows exactly what was done. "

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Chinese Traditional Medicine , marcos <ishk18> wrote:

> She had not concentrated her qi with her qi gong practice, but

> dispersed it! Lacking the guidance which an experienced qi gong

> teacher could provide at the first sign of any problems, she had

> fouled up the circulation of the Du and Ren channels. Yin and

> yang

> were both deficient by this stage.

(snip)

> Questioning her history soon revealed that this was a channel

> problem - Du and Ren - rather than a zang-fu condition. Thus the

> points chosen were restricted to these channels:

 

Marcos, do you know of anything else that could trigger the back

being unusually cold? I had this problem back when I was still very

sick and before I saw a TCM healer. I was cold all over, but my

back was so cold that sometimes there would be a burning sensation.

BTW, one of the big milestones for me was when after a few months of

treatment, I could touch my hands to my face and feel warmth. (There

was significantimprovements before I reached this stage, but it took

a few months before this point was reached. (I had so many problems

the TCM healer had to be careful.)

 

> be needled at all, opting instead for distal points. He

> explained:

> " In Western medicine locally acute pain is called `spasm', in

> Chinese

> medicine it is called `cold'. Heavy needling or even heavy

> massage

> will cause more spasm. Light needling can relieve the pain, so

> the

> effect is `xie': reduction. Although the stimulation is light,

> the

> `xie' is the expulsion of the cold. "

 

My back was so sensitive back then that I could not use one of those

electrical massage pads that you sit back against for more than a

few seconds at a time. I could only use it on low speed, not high.

I could not stand to use both the upper and lower back part of it at

the same time. Mostly I used it as a heating pad. Gradually, I was

able to tolerate more and more. Eventually the day came when I

could use both upper and lower segments at the same time. Finally,

I was able to use the high speed. Then I wore it out I used it so

often. I'm on my third one.

 

Sometimes stronger and more intense is not better. Very easy and

light accomplishes more.

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--- victoria_dragon <victoria_dragon escreveu:

>

>

>

> Chinese Traditional Medicine , marcos <ishk18>

> wrote:

> > She had not concentrated her qi with her qi gong practice,

> but

> > dispersed it! Lacking the guidance which an experienced qi

> gong

> > teacher could provide at the first sign of any problems, she

> had

> > fouled up the circulation of the Du and Ren channels. Yin and

>

> > yang

> > were both deficient by this stage.

> (snip)

> > Questioning her history soon revealed that this was a channel

>

> > problem - Du and Ren - rather than a zang-fu condition. Thus

> the

> > points chosen were restricted to these channels:

>

> Marcos, do you know of anything else that could trigger the

> back

> being unusually cold? I had this problem back when I was still

> very

> sick and before I saw a TCM healer. I was cold all over, but

> my

> back was so cold that sometimes there would be a burning

> sensation.

 

Well, as we can see from the case description, it was a lesser

orbit blokcage, with dispersion of qi, the teacher dispersed the

heat with Du14, tonified yang-qi with Du4, and opened the orbit

with Ren4 and drew the heat down, I would liked to know more

details, as when he mentioned the spasm and cold, was it in the

tan-tien region?, was there a block around the Du14?

Zang-Fu syndrome can cause cold in the back also, specifically

deficient yang of the kidneys, which means Ming-men deficient(so

the Du4). And the causes of it can be inhereted weakness of jing

and yuan-qi, chronic sickness, and other causes.

The heating pad would be specially good on the

Life-Door(Ming-men)area at the start of your treatment.

 

 

> BTW, one of the big milestones for me was when after a few

> months of

> treatment, I could touch my hands to my face and feel warmth.

> (There

> was significantimprovements before I reached this stage, but it

> took

> a few months before this point was reached. (I had so many

> problems

> the TCM healer had to be careful.)

>

> > be needled at all, opting instead for distal points. He

> > explained:

> > " In Western medicine locally acute pain is called `spasm', in

>

> > Chinese

> > medicine it is called `cold'. Heavy needling or even heavy

> > massage

> > will cause more spasm. Light needling can relieve the pain,

> so

> > the

> > effect is `xie': reduction. Although the stimulation is

> light,

> > the

> > `xie' is the expulsion of the cold. "

>

> My back was so sensitive back then that I could not use one of

> those

> electrical massage pads that you sit back against for more than

> a

> few seconds at a time. I could only use it on low speed, not

> high.

> I could not stand to use both the upper and lower back part of

> it at

> the same time. Mostly I used it as a heating pad. Gradually, I

> was

> able to tolerate more and more. Eventually the day came when I

>

> could use both upper and lower segments at the same time.

> Finally,

> I was able to use the high speed. Then I wore it out I used it

> so

> often. I'm on my third one.

>

> Sometimes stronger and more intense is not better. Very easy

> and

> light accomplishes more.

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

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> Well, as we can see from the case description, it was a lesser

> orbit blokcage, with dispersion of qi, the teacher dispersed the

> heat with Du14, tonified yang-qi with Du4, and opened the orbit

> with Ren4 and drew the heat down,

 

Could you go into more detail about what is meant by " lesser orbit

blockage? Thanks.

 

> I would liked to know more

> details, as when he mentioned the spasm and cold, was it in the

> tan-tien region?, was there a block around the Du14?

> Zang-Fu syndrome can cause cold in the back also, specifically

> deficient yang of the kidneys, which means Ming-men deficient(so

> the Du4). And the causes of it can be inhereted weakness of jing

> and yuan-qi, chronic sickness, and other causes.

 

Is that Du 14 or Du 4? How do you tell if there is a blockage around

this point? I do have a lot of lower back pain, especially when I

overdo physically or when it gets cold.

 

He was an herbalist, not an acupuncturist. The most severe problem I

had at the time was Kidney Yang Deficiency. This was the time when

I could only warm up most of the time in the winter by soaking in

hot baths. The one time I could warm up on my own was after I had

been asleep a few hours. Then I would wake up hot, but a couple of

sips of room temperature water cooled me down quickly.

 

As he was preparing the herbal packages after the initial intake, he

broke off a piece of dried ginger and instructed me to chew it.

Within seconds I could tell that was something I particularly

needed. In addition to the many herbs he prescribed, I used to fix

myself cups of ginger tea throughout the day. They energized me like

some people say coffee energizes them.

 

Other problems included Blood Deficiency and Qi Stagnation. There

was and is Kidney Yin Deficiency, but back then the Yang Deficiency

was so severe that it almost completely masked the symptoms of

Kidney Yin Deficiency. There was Interior and Exterior Cold. At one

point I was on Minor Blue Green Dragon tea for a few weeks. I still

have too much of a sensitivity to cold. My energy level still goes

way down when it gets too cold, and rises when the weather warms.

 

Chronic sickness has been a problem for me. At that time I had had

CFIDS (Chronic Fatigue Immunie Dysfunction Syndrome) for over 20

years. I also had a history of recurring and chronic mononucleosis

(glandular fever)and recurring thyroid problems (mostly hypothyroid)

that were related to the bouts with mono.

 

> The heating pad would be specially good on the

> Life-Door(Ming-men)area at the start of your treatment.

 

When I improved to a certain point, I started learning everything I

could about TCM. I started experimenting. One of the things I did

was a heating pad over Du 4. BTW, in between the Minor Blue Green

Drgaon Tea and the use of heating pads and acupressure on Bladder 23

and Bladder 47 and Small Intestine 3, I no longer have the severe

headaches I used to have most of the time. When one of those

headaches got really bad, a shot of demerol in the emergency room

wouldn't even stop it. heating pads over those 3 points (plus

another heating pad on the upper back area when the headache is on

the right side) knocks one of those headaches out in seconds. Not

only that, but a regular program of preventive acupressure has kept

those headaches from even staring for the most part.

 

I continue to learn and cautiously experiment. Back in December I

discovered that when my legs are weak and painful, a heating pad on

the calves helped a lot, and my legs would feel ok after the

treatment.

 

Then I started using a heating pad on the inner ridge of a foot,

along where the Spleen meridian runs. That helped even more. Then I

added a second heating pad to the other foot along the outside edge

of the foot and the Bladder meridian. (I alternate feet. First on

the outer edge of one and the inner edge of the other, and then

reversed.) That helped even more. My sleep became a lot deeper and

more satisfying. I'm no longer waking up every couple of hours to

have to go urinate. The incontinence problems that I get when it

gets cold have improved a lot.

 

Acupressure on Stomach 36 also helped a lot.

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--- victoria_dragon <victoria_dragon escreveu:

>

>

>

> > Well, as we can see from the case description, it was a

> lesser

> > orbit blokcage, with dispersion of qi, the teacher dispersed

> the

> > heat with Du14, tonified yang-qi with Du4, and opened the

> orbit

> > with Ren4 and drew the heat down,

>

> Could you go into more detail about what is meant by " lesser

> orbit

> blockage? Thanks.

 

The chinese teacher probably was a Qigong practitioner himself,

so he knew how to identify and treat her state. The Lesser Orbit

is the path of qi along the Du and Ren-mai channels, that's why

Tai-Chi/Qigong teachers tell their students to rest the tip of

their tongue on the roof of the mouth(the palate), so as to

'close circuit', and enhance qi circulation along the two

channels. A block to the passage of qi along a channel can be

through trauma, cold, heat, wind, tension, etc, usually known as

Bi syndrome and the area can be painful, when a muscle is very

tense, there is qi and blood(xue)stagnation, the area is painful

to pressure, that's a blockage(of qi). In the lady's case, she

did the exercises wrong, I don't know what she did, but it could

be anything from a wrong posture, to tension(you have to do the

sets relaxed, so the qi will flow) to the wrong exercise for her

state(her chronic brochitis).

 

 

> > I would liked to know more

> > details, as when he mentioned the spasm and cold, was it in

> the

> > tan-tien region?, was there a block around the Du14?

> > Zang-Fu syndrome can cause cold in the back also,

> specifically

> > deficient yang of the kidneys, which means Ming-men

> deficient(so

> > the Du4). And the causes of it can be inhereted weakness of

> jing

> > and yuan-qi, chronic sickness, and other causes.

>

> Is that Du 14 or Du 4? How do you tell if there is a blockage

> around

> this point? I do have a lot of lower back pain, especially when

> I

> overdo physically or when it gets cold.

 

I meant a block in both points. Tense, hard and painful areas,

some part of the body or path of a channel that is hotter or

colder than surrounding areas, a grainy feeling, swollen,

emaciated, with a different colour, hard nodules, these are

indications of blocks and the effects of a block(the accumulation

of stagnated qi or lack of proper circulation of it(blood follows

qi).

 

 

> He was an herbalist, not an acupuncturist. The most severe

> problem I

> had at the time was Kidney Yang Deficiency. This was the time

> when

> I could only warm up most of the time in the winter by soaking

> in

> hot baths. The one time I could warm up on my own was after I

> had

> been asleep a few hours. Then I would wake up hot, but a

> couple of

> sips of room temperature water cooled me down quickly.

>

> As he was preparing the herbal packages after the initial

> intake, he

> broke off a piece of dried ginger and instructed me to chew it.

>

> Within seconds I could tell that was something I particularly

> needed. In addition to the many herbs he prescribed, I used to

> fix

> myself cups of ginger tea throughout the day. They energized me

> like

> some people say coffee energizes them.

>

> Other problems included Blood Deficiency and Qi Stagnation.

> There

> was and is Kidney Yin Deficiency, but back then the Yang

> Deficiency

> was so severe that it almost completely masked the symptoms of

> Kidney Yin Deficiency. There was Interior and Exterior Cold.

> At one

> point I was on Minor Blue Green Dragon tea for a few weeks. I

> still

> have too much of a sensitivity to cold. My energy level still

> goes

> way down when it gets too cold, and rises when the weather

> warms.

>

> Chronic sickness has been a problem for me. At that time I had

> had

> CFIDS (Chronic Fatigue Immunie Dysfunction Syndrome) for over

> 20

> years. I also had a history of recurring and chronic

> mononucleosis

> (glandular fever)and recurring thyroid problems (mostly

> hypothyroid)

> that were related to the bouts with mono.

>

> > The heating pad would be specially good on the

> > Life-Door(Ming-men)area at the start of your treatment.

>

> When I improved to a certain point, I started learning

> everything I

> could about TCM. I started experimenting. One of the things I

> did

> was a heating pad over Du 4. BTW, in between the Minor Blue

> Green

> Drgaon Tea and the use of heating pads and acupressure on

> Bladder 23

> and Bladder 47 and Small Intestine 3, I no longer have the

> severe

> headaches I used to have most of the time. When one of those

> headaches got really bad, a shot of demerol in the emergency

> room

> wouldn't even stop it. heating pads over those 3 points (plus

> another heating pad on the upper back area when the headache is

> on

> the right side) knocks one of those headaches out in seconds.

> Not

> only that, but a regular program of preventive acupressure has

> kept

> those headaches from even staring for the most part.

>

> I continue to learn and cautiously experiment. Back in

> December I

> discovered that when my legs are weak and painful, a heating

> pad on

> the calves helped a lot, and my legs would feel ok after the

> treatment.

>

> Then I started using a heating pad on the inner ridge of a

> foot,

> along where the Spleen meridian runs. That helped even more.

> Then I

> added a second heating pad to the other foot along the outside

> edge

> of the foot and the Bladder meridian. (I alternate feet. First

> on

> the outer edge of one and the inner edge of the other, and then

>

> reversed.) That helped even more. My sleep became a lot deeper

> and

> more satisfying. I'm no longer waking up every couple of hours

> to

> have to go urinate. The incontinence problems that I get when

> it

> gets cold have improved a lot.

>

> Acupressure on Stomach 36 also helped a lot.

>

Try Qigong(with good teacher, of course), it will help replenish

your qi, the taoists developed these exercises for the express

purpose of keeping and increasing our energy and achieving health

and longevity.

The feet are an exellent place to massage and heat(moxa is good

for that too), many important Zang-fu points, and of the

extraordinary channels there.

 

 

 

 

 

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> The chinese teacher probably was a Qigong practitioner himself,

> so he knew how to identify and treat her state. The Lesser Orbit

> is the path of qi along the Du and Ren-mai channels, that's why

> Tai-Chi/Qigong teachers tell their students to rest the tip of

> their tongue on the roof of the mouth(the palate), so as to

> 'close circuit', and enhance qi circulation along the two

> channels.

 

Thanks. I was unfamiliar with that term " Lesser Orbit " .

 

When I learned to do a Hara breathing excercise, the instructions

included resting the tip of the tongue on the palate behind the

teeth when breathing in through the nose in order to complete the

circuit between the Du and Ren. (For those new to TCM, the Du and

Ren are two of the pathways of Qi (pronounce " chee " , roughly though

inadequately translated as " energy " ) flow in the body. The Du, aka

Governing Vessel, goes straight up the middle of the back and neck,

enters the brains, ascends to the top of the head, and down the

front of the face to the middle of the upper lip. The Ren, aka

Conception Vessel, aka Directing Vessel, goes up the middle of the

front of the body and curves around the lips.)

 

BTW, the Hara Breathing exercise helps. It increases energy.

 

> A block to the passage of qi along a channel can be

> through trauma, cold, heat, wind, tension, etc, usually known as

> Bi syndrome and the area can be painful, when a muscle is very

> tense, there is qi and blood(xue)stagnation, the area is painful

> to pressure, that's a blockage(of qi).

 

The first year TCM students on the list probably should memorize

this list of things that can cause Qi blockage, contemplate it, and

add to it. I have an item to add to it. Magnesium deficiency.

Muscles need Mg in order to be able to relax. Without enough Mg,

muscles stay contracted. Besides being very fatiguing, this has the

same effect as cold (contracting) and tension (contracting).

 

How powerful can this contracting be? It - like that from cold - can

pull the spine out of alignment. When chiropractor or DO treatments

don't last, suspect and rule in or rule out Mg deficiency and/or

Cold problems. Too much Mg as well as too little can be lethal.

Mildred Seelig, MD, is an authority on Mg, its role in the body, and

tests for Mg deficiency.

 

When people have trouble meditating or relaxing during Qi Gong

exercises, sometimes it can be due to Mg deficiency and/or Yin

Deficiency.

 

> In the lady's case, she

> did the exercises wrong, I don't know what she did, but it could

> be anything from a wrong posture, to tension(you have to do the

> sets relaxed, so the qi will flow) to the wrong exercise for her

> state(her chronic brochitis).

 

(snip)

 

> I meant a block in both points. Tense, hard and painful areas,

> some part of the body or path of a channel that is hotter or

> colder than surrounding areas, a grainy feeling, swollen,

> emaciated, with a different colour, hard nodules, these are

> indications of blocks and the effects of a block(the accumulation

> of stagnated qi or lack of proper circulation of it(blood follows

> qi).

 

This is a good list for those new to TCM to be aware of. Some of the

indications that there are problems along a pathway of Qi flow. Some

of the indications that one might want to consult an acupuncturist

or massage therapist trained in TCM.

 

BTW, medical systems around the world - including Western allopathic

medicine - have recognized some of the things TCM has noted through

the centuries. It's that allopathic medicine lacks the necessary

framework to understand fully why these seemingly isolated things

are happening. A very good example of this is some time ago - two

or three decades ago - Western allopathic researchers into migraine

headaches realized that in the case of some of these headaches, part

of the hand (usually, sometimes the foot) would get cold prior to

the person developing a migraine on that side of the body. Migraine

sufferers who noticed this happening were instructed to warm the

hand (or foot) in order to prevent the migraine from developing.

 

The area of the hand that feels cooler than the rest of the body is

along the outer upper edge of the hand - including the outer upper

edge of the little finger. (When it happens with the foot, it the

outer upper edge of the foot. There may also be problems with the

back being cold, though this usually isn't as noticable as the hand.)

 

Western allopathic researchers observed that this was happening with

some migraine sufferers prior to their headaches developing, but

they couldn't understand or explain why it happens. Enter TCM.

 

When Wind Cold enters the body and starts to penetrate to the

Interior, there is a sequence. The first two meridians affected are

the " Tai Yang " meridians. That's the Bladder and the Small

Intestine meridians. The Small Intestine meridian runs along the

outer upper edges of the hand. The Bladder meridians runs along the

outer upper edge of the foot (and a lot of the back). This is why

the outer upper edge of the hand will get colder than the rest of

the body in some migraine sufferers. There is Wind Cold in the

Small Intestine channel. As the Wind Cold invades deeper into the

Interior, other symptoms of the migraine start to appear. Like the

incredible nausea and throwing up.

 

I want to caution readers new to TCM that Wind Cold In the Tai Yang

meridians is not the only possible cause of a migraine. That's why

it's important to consult a trained TCM healer if there is one in

your area.

 

One of the oddest things that may be observed in the case of a Tai

Yang Wind Cold migraine is that the muscles on the side of the back

of the neck that the migraine is on will be contracted. Sometimes

they will be so contracted that the healer not only can feel the

difference between the two sides of the back of the neck but see it.

Usually when the muscles in the back of the neck are contracted,

Western allopathic medicine interprets this as a tension headache.

And it could very well be - if both sides of the back of the neck

are contracted and hard. When people are feeling tense, usually

their entire body is contracted - or at least both sides of the back

of the neck and the shoulders. If the contraction is one-sided, a

more likely probability is that one is seeing a case of Wind Cold

having invaded the Bladder and Small Intestine meridians.

 

Another indication that one may be seeing a Tai Yang Wind Cold

migraine is that warmth makes the person feel better. At some point

in their histories of having these headaches, a lot of these

migraine suffers discover this. But what they usually do is put the

heating pad over the neck. This helps - both in lessening the pain

of the headache some and in terms of shortening the duration of the

migraine - but it doesn't lessen the pain or the duration enough.

The migraine may still last hours (as opposed to more than a day

without the heating pad on the neck). However, there are points on

the Bladder and Small Intestine meridians that can knock one of

these headaches out in seonds. For me, Small Intestine 3 and

Bladder 23 and Bladder 47 worked instantly for migraines on the

left. If the headache was on the right, I also had to put a heating

pad over the right shoulder blade area of the back. (For some

reason, the headaches on the right were always more severe than the

ones on the left.) If the migraine had progressed to the stage of

nausea, it took other points on other meridians to stop the nausea.

(I use acupressure and heating pads (if it's a Wind Cold headache).

(A heating pad used when a headache is due to Heat would worsen it.)

 

If one consults a TCM healer about headaches, one may be asked a lot

of questions about where the pain starts and ends up. If the

headache starts in the back of the head (or muscles in the back of

the neck first start to contract and hurt), this is an indication

that there may be a problem in the Bladder meridian. (Or the Gall

Bladder meridian.)

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> Try Qigong(with good teacher, of course), it will help replenish

> your qi, the taoists developed these exercises for the express

> purpose of keeping and increasing our energy and achieving health

> and longevity.

> The feet are an exellent place to massage and heat(moxa is good

> for that too), many important Zang-fu points, and of the

> extraordinary channels there.

 

There is no Qigong teacher in this area.

 

I have been using some simple exercises from a book. I was very

surprised that they work so well. I can feel something in the lower

abdomen loosening up. Like so many Westerners when I first tried

these, I was skeptical that something so simple could do anything.

 

I got a Qigong video for Christmas. It's called Five Organ Breathing

by Dr. Xue Zhi Wang, OMD, CA. I'm interested in learning more about

healing sounds as well as exercise to strengthen the Organs.

 

I've watched the tape a couple of times and have made notes, but I

haven't started doing the set of exercises yet as these are taught

in the spring and summer. I did try the preliminary warm-up exercise

as well as repeating the sounds, and i did notice an increase in

energy and a feeling of well-being. I'm looking forward to really

getting into the exercises.

 

I believe spring starts with the Chinese New Year (which was

yesterday), but I'm not sure about this. In any event, it doesn't

feel very springlike around here. Even though it got up to 70

degress F the day before yesterday, it still doesn't " feel " like

spring. It takes more than a couple of days of warm weather to feel

springlike to me. It's more of a total thing for me. The grass

starts to green up (ever so slightly at first), the buds on trees

start to swell, there's a sense of things emerging. A couple of warm

days are nice but only a harbinger, a promise, and the first

stirrings. Though I did notice yesterday that the greenary of

daffodils have emerged some in a neighbor's yard. So I'll wait a

while longer before really getting into the tape though I'll

probably watch it again to familiarize myself with it more.

 

As you probably can tell, I really like spring, greenary, and

nature. It's a big event for me to go outside, look for signs of

spring, and find them. Like the greenary of the the neighbor's

daffodils. Daffodils are one of my favorite flowers. I guess

because when I was a kid, a neighbor in that neighborhood also had

daffodils planted in her yard. When those yellow blossoms appeared,

one knew winter was over. Winter might make a few encore

appearances, but its heart just isn't in it. The worst of winter is

over. Daffodils are such a " happy " flower to me. I guess because I

was always so happy at the return of warm weather and spring. (I can

remember being bothered by cold weather even as a kid.)

 

The person who built this place also planted several saucer

magnolias (aka Oriental magnolias) in the deep front yard. Like

daffodils, these are among the earliest things to bloom. Their buds

haven't started to swell yet. (Or if they have, it's too slight for

me to recognize.)

[Guest guest]

My experience with healing sounds has been very good.

I have taken help of two VHS tapes:

One by Dr. Michael Saso's " Oriental Secrets of

Healing Sounds " and the other by Ken Cohen. I find the

first easy to do. The second one has a lot of other

stuff too. It is good but presentation could have been

better.

I have tried herbs, acupuncture, and chi kung for

treating my damp heat conditions. I am about 80-90%

cured. But what really helped me was the chinese

dietary therapy. Unless food is changed according to

one's body needs, progress is not good. Once these

treatments are combined with dietary therapy progress

is very rapid.

In one of your emails you talked about foot massage.

That helps a lot. Before going to bed putting feet in

lukeworm water containing Epsom salt (source of

magnesium) for 15 min not only improves quality of

sleep but also one feels much better in the morning.

 

Atul

--- victoria_dragon <victoria_dragon wrote:

 

>

>

> > Try Qigong(with good teacher, of course), it will

> help replenish

> > your qi, the taoists developed these exercises for

> the express

> > purpose of keeping and increasing our energy and

> achieving health

> > and longevity.

> > The feet are an exellent place to massage and

> heat(moxa is good

> > for that too), many important Zang-fu points, and

> of the

> > extraordinary channels there.

>

> There is no Qigong teacher in this area.

>

> I have been using some simple exercises from a book.

> I was very

> surprised that they work so well. I can feel

> something in the lower

> abdomen loosening up. Like so many Westerners when

> I first tried

> these, I was skeptical that something so simple

> could do anything.

>

> I got a Qigong video for Christmas. It's called Five

> Organ Breathing

> by Dr. Xue Zhi Wang, OMD, CA. I'm interested in

> learning more about

> healing sounds as well as exercise to strengthen the

> Organs.

>

> I've watched the tape a couple of times and have

> made notes, but I

> haven't started doing the set of exercises yet as

> these are taught

> in the spring and summer. I did try the preliminary

> warm-up exercise

> as well as repeating the sounds, and i did notice an

> increase in

> energy and a feeling of well-being. I'm looking

> forward to really

> getting into the exercises.

>

> I believe spring starts with the Chinese New Year

> (which was

> yesterday), but I'm not sure about this. In any

> event, it doesn't

> feel very springlike around here. Even though it got

> up to 70

> degress F the day before yesterday, it still doesn't

> " feel " like

> spring. It takes more than a couple of days of warm

> weather to feel

> springlike to me. It's more of a total thing for me.

> The grass

> starts to green up (ever so slightly at first), the

> buds on trees

> start to swell, there's a sense of things emerging.

> A couple of warm

> days are nice but only a harbinger, a promise, and

> the first

> stirrings. Though I did notice yesterday that the

> greenary of

> daffodils have emerged some in a neighbor's yard. So

> I'll wait a

> while longer before really getting into the tape

> though I'll

> probably watch it again to familiarize myself with

> it more.

>

> As you probably can tell, I really like spring,

> greenary, and

> nature. It's a big event for me to go outside, look

> for signs of

> spring, and find them. Like the greenary of the the

> neighbor's

> daffodils. Daffodils are one of my favorite flowers.

> I guess

> because when I was a kid, a neighbor in that

> neighborhood also had

> daffodils planted in her yard. When those yellow

> blossoms appeared,

> one knew winter was over. Winter might make a few

> encore

> appearances, but its heart just isn't in it. The

> worst of winter is

> over. Daffodils are such a " happy " flower to me. I

> guess because I

> was always so happy at the return of warm weather

> and spring. (I can

> remember being bothered by cold weather even as a

> kid.)

>

> The person who built this place also planted several

> saucer

> magnolias (aka Oriental magnolias) in the deep front

> yard. Like

> daffodils, these are among the earliest things to

> bloom. Their buds

> haven't started to swell yet. (Or if they have,

> it's too slight for

> me to recognize.)

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

My back too used to be very cold about 7-8 years. But

I never talked to TCM doctor about it. I think that

too is because of kidney yang deficiency. After I took

herbal tretment for over one year, my back is a lot

more warm now.

I want to try heating pads. How big they should be for

this type of heating? What you use?

What is this " BTW " in your emails?

 

Thanks.

 

Atul

--- victoria_dragon <victoria_dragon wrote:

 

>

>

> > Well, as we can see from the case description, it

> was a lesser

> > orbit blokcage, with dispersion of qi, the teacher

> dispersed the

> > heat with Du14, tonified yang-qi with Du4, and

> opened the orbit

> > with Ren4 and drew the heat down,

>

> Could you go into more detail about what is meant by

> " lesser orbit

> blockage? Thanks.

>

> > I would liked to know more

> > details, as when he mentioned the spasm and cold,

> was it in the

> > tan-tien region?, was there a block around the

> Du14?

> > Zang-Fu syndrome can cause cold in the back also,

> specifically

> > deficient yang of the kidneys, which means

> Ming-men deficient(so

> > the Du4). And the causes of it can be inhereted

> weakness of jing

> > and yuan-qi, chronic sickness, and other causes.

>

> Is that Du 14 or Du 4? How do you tell if there is a

> blockage around

> this point? I do have a lot of lower back pain,

> especially when I

> overdo physically or when it gets cold.

>

> He was an herbalist, not an acupuncturist. The most

> severe problem I

> had at the time was Kidney Yang Deficiency. This

> was the time when

> I could only warm up most of the time in the winter

> by soaking in

> hot baths. The one time I could warm up on my own

> was after I had

> been asleep a few hours. Then I would wake up hot,

> but a couple of

> sips of room temperature water cooled me down

> quickly.

>

> As he was preparing the herbal packages after the

> initial intake, he

> broke off a piece of dried ginger and instructed me

> to chew it.

> Within seconds I could tell that was something I

> particularly

> needed. In addition to the many herbs he prescribed,

> I used to fix

> myself cups of ginger tea throughout the day. They

> energized me like

> some people say coffee energizes them.

>

> Other problems included Blood Deficiency and Qi

> Stagnation. There

> was and is Kidney Yin Deficiency, but back then the

> Yang Deficiency

> was so severe that it almost completely masked the

> symptoms of

> Kidney Yin Deficiency. There was Interior and

> Exterior Cold. At one

> point I was on Minor Blue Green Dragon tea for a few

> weeks. I still

> have too much of a sensitivity to cold. My energy

> level still goes

> way down when it gets too cold, and rises when the

> weather warms.

>

> Chronic sickness has been a problem for me. At that

> time I had had

> CFIDS (Chronic Fatigue Immunie Dysfunction Syndrome)

> for over 20

> years. I also had a history of recurring and chronic

> mononucleosis

> (glandular fever)and recurring thyroid problems

> (mostly hypothyroid)

> that were related to the bouts with mono.

>

> > The heating pad would be specially good on the

> > Life-Door(Ming-men)area at the start of your

> treatment.

>

> When I improved to a certain point, I started

> learning everything I

> could about TCM. I started experimenting. One of

> the things I did

> was a heating pad over Du 4. BTW, in between the

> Minor Blue Green

> Drgaon Tea and the use of heating pads and

> acupressure on Bladder 23

> and Bladder 47 and Small Intestine 3, I no longer

> have the severe

> headaches I used to have most of the time. When one

> of those

> headaches got really bad, a shot of demerol in the

> emergency room

> wouldn't even stop it. heating pads over those 3

> points (plus

> another heating pad on the upper back area when the

> headache is on

> the right side) knocks one of those headaches out in

> seconds. Not

> only that, but a regular program of preventive

> acupressure has kept

> those headaches from even staring for the most part.

>

> I continue to learn and cautiously experiment. Back

> in December I

> discovered that when my legs are weak and painful, a

> heating pad on

> the calves helped a lot, and my legs would feel ok

> after the

> treatment.

>

> Then I started using a heating pad on the inner

> ridge of a foot,

> along where the Spleen meridian runs. That helped

> even more. Then I

> added a second heating pad to the other foot along

> the outside edge

> of the foot and the Bladder meridian. (I alternate

> feet. First on

> the outer edge of one and the inner edge of the

> other, and then

> reversed.) That helped even more. My sleep became a

> lot deeper and

> more satisfying. I'm no longer waking up every

> couple of hours to

> have to go urinate. The incontinence problems that I

> get when it

> gets cold have improved a lot.

>

> Acupressure on Stomach 36 also helped a lot.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

> My experience with healing sounds has been very good.

> I have taken help of two VHS tapes:

> One by Dr. Michael Saso's " Oriental Secrets of

> Healing Sounds " and the other by Ken Cohen. I find the

> first easy to do. The second one has a lot of other

> stuff too. It is good but presentation could have been

> better.

 

Thanks for the suggestions. Healing sounds are largely unexplored in

the West.

 

For those on the list who are new to TCM: Sounds also can be

diagnostic in TCM. " The type of voice can also be diagnosed

according to the 5-Element scheme of correspondences, so that a

shouting voice is indicative of a Liver disharmony, a laughing voice

of a Heart disharmony, a singing " (sing-song) " voice of a Spleen

disharmony, a whimpering voice of a Lung disharmony and a groaning

voice of a Kidney disharmony. " (Giovanni Maciocia, The Foundations

of , p. 153.) When people talk about TCM healers

observing everything, they aren't kidding.

 

> In one of your emails you talked about foot massage.

> That helps a lot. Before going to bed putting feet in

> lukeworm water containing Epsom salt (source of

> magnesium) for 15 min not only improves quality of

> sleep but also one feels much better in the morning.

 

Thanks. I'll have to try this. Sometimes I put Epsom salt in bath

water and soak for 20 minutes, but this would be a lot simpler (and

cheaper) to do.

[Guest guest]

> I want to try heating pads. How big they should be for

> this type of heating? What you use?

> What is this " BTW " in your emails?

 

I have used a fairly large electric heating pad ( 1 foot by 1 1/2

feet) to cover a large area of the back. These days I prefer

healing pads that can be microwaved, and there are size limitations

on these pads. So I have more than one in order to cover a larger

area. There are two types. One contains a gel, and the pad can be

microwaved for heat or stuck in the freezer for a while if one needs

a cold pack. The other is a herbal heating pack, usually filled

with dried rice or with flax seed and some herbs. I like the quality

of the heat provided by the rice or flaxseed. Sort of like a gentle,

uniform baking. Like warm (but not hot) bricks on a sunshiny but

cool day. Nice and gentle dry. There is a difference between the

quality of heat produced by different types of heating pads. It's

not something that most people would notice, but I have used a lot

of heating pads for a lot of years and have had a lot of problems

with cold.

 

I saw an ad for some microwaveable, herbal booties. I may check

those out one of these days. Or try to make some. They slip over

the feet. I imagine microwaveable herbal hand warmers could be

made. Or one with velcro that could wrap around the knee or the

wrist or elbow or wherever a person needs extra heat.

 

" BTW " stands for By The Way.

[Guest guest]

<snip>

> There is a difference between the

> quality of heat produced by different types of heating pads. It's

> not something that most people would notice,

 

There are differences in the qualities of energies in foods cooked in

vessles of different materials (ceramic, metal, etc.) and over heats

produced by different fuels (gas, electricity, wood, straw, etc.)

 

<snip>

> I saw an ad for some microwaveable, herbal booties. I may check

> those out one of these days. Or try to make some. They slip over

> the feet.

 

My children bought me a pair a couple years back. The herbs (or

whatever is producing the annoying stink pretty) isn't very

appropriate for adjusting my balance

plus

I doubt if the scent is produced in a totally natural herbal method.

 

A positive part of having them is that the stink pretty lingered in

the microwave oven long enough that my husband learned he

could live without microwaving his food to warm it (a

habit I'd been trying to detour him from).

 

Our microwave is now exclusively for heating my home made hot packs.

Without that use, it would have been placed in the garbage long ago.

 

> I imagine microwaveable herbal hand warmers could be

> made. Or one with velcro that could wrap around the knee or the

> wrist or elbow or wherever a person needs extra heat.

 

Yes, make your own.

Choose the appropriate herbs and color of fabric.

Think pleasant thoughts while doing it.

 

Penel

[Guest guest]

Chinese Traditional Medicine , " hyldemoer " <hyldemoer>

wrote:

 

> Yes, make your own.

> Choose the appropriate herbs and color of fabric.

> Think pleasant thoughts while doing it.

 

Any recommendations on what kind of fabric to use? What to use to

hold the heat - rice, flax seed, or whatever? Specific herbs to use

for specific imbalances?

 

I got a bunch of TCM books for Christmas. A couple of them touch on

aromatherapy in Chinese medicine. It's not a big part of Chinese

medicine today, but it is a part historically. If I remember

correctly, the scent of (real) roses has the effect of helping Qi to

move. (If I'm not remembering correctly, someone please correct

me.) Anyway, roses have always been one of my favorite flowers.

When I was a teenager, an older person in the town I lived in had a

yard full of roses. Not just a few bushes but dozens. There was

well over a hundred. The back yard was nothing but paths and rose

bushes. I used to love to visit his yard. All that beauty and that

smell were so uplifting. Anyway, when we moved back to a non-desert

area from a desert area, the first spring I planted several rose

bushes. Plus, there are wild roses around here.

 

I predict the aromatherapy part of TCM will make a big comeback.

[Guest guest]

> > Yes, make your own.

> > Choose the appropriate herbs and color of fabric.

> > Think pleasant thoughts while doing it.

>

> Any recommendations on what kind of fabric to use?

 

I tend to wander the fabric store like I'm wildcrafting herbs.

Listening and sniffing.

 

This might sound goofy but my cat much preferred natural

fibers to synthetic. On a cold day, if I placed a polyester

blanket (made to collect loose cat fur) on my house's hot

water radiators she'd either knock it off before taking a nap

or find a naked radiator.

She didn't do that with cotton towels or wool blankets.

 

What are the options?

100% Wool, flax, cotton, silk?

Bleached, natural, herbally or chemically colored?

 

What difference does any of this make?

People paint their toe nails and color their hair.

They haven't a clue what's going on.

I don't do those kind of things.

I notice the differences.

That's how I get repeat ABT clients ;-)

 

> What to use to

> hold the heat - rice, flax seed, or whatever?

 

Here again, the stuffing is the vehicle. What is holding the heat is

the H2O in the medium.

Brown rice and flax seed will have a shorter shelf life. Their oils

will eventually go rancid.

There isn't that problem with white rice.

I've heard some folks use cherry pits.

 

I imagine they all dry out eventually.

 

> Specific herbs to use

> for specific imbalances?

 

I was lucky enough to find an acupuncturist who teaches Western herbs

using Asian theory.

Tierra's books on Western herbs mention an Asian assessment of herbs.

The best book I've found on the subject is Peter Holmes' 2 volume

" The Energetics of Western Herbs " .

 

<snip>

> I predict the aromatherapy part of TCM will make a big comeback.

 

Jeffrey Yuen teaches a workshop on it. I think there are CDs of his

workshop being marketed somewhere. I saw them at an AOBTA

conference a couple years ago.

 

Friends who took his ws tell me he uses essential oils with children

at the acupuncture points instead of needles.

 

Aromatherapy is going to be included in a formal year of study I've

signed up for with that acupuncturist's school. I was wondering how

it was going to be approached.

I was also wondering how I'd survive.

 

Take a ABT class and a large part is watching. When we'd work on

each other I'd usually end up seeing someone for Qi " damage

control " later.

One can hardly sit and watch an essential oil without participation.

 

The school was going to bring in someone to teach it during March

but that's been pushed back to June because the guest teacher has

been asked to be in a documentary film or something in March.

 

When June comes, if there are suggested books and they relate to

Asian med. I'll share.

 

In the mean time, I imagine the herbs mentioned in Holmes' book could

be extrapolated for aromatherapy technique?

 

Penel

[Guest guest]

Hi Victoria,

I guess it is on it's way, observing the springing of plants and

flowers is a most beautiful way to see springs coming!

The chinese mark the season's beginnings not on the equinoxes and

solstices but practically between these, which is in fact the

correct way, for eq. and sol. are really the mid and extreme

points of earth's orbit around the sun, and as such, mark(or

should) the mid-seasons. But the actual 'sensation' of a season

varies somewhat with the latitude one lives at.

By the way, where do you live?

Marcos

 

--- victoria_dragon <victoria_dragon escreveu:

 

> I believe spring starts with the Chinese New Year (which was

> yesterday), but I'm not sure about this. In any event, it

> doesn't

> feel very springlike around here. Even though it got up to 70

> degress F the day before yesterday, it still doesn't " feel "

> like

> spring. It takes more than a couple of days of warm weather to

> feel

> springlike to me. It's more of a total thing for me. The grass

>

> starts to green up (ever so slightly at first), the buds on

> trees

> start to swell, there's a sense of things emerging. A couple of

> warm

> days are nice but only a harbinger, a promise, and the first

> stirrings. Though I did notice yesterday that the greenary of

> daffodils have emerged some in a neighbor's yard. So I'll wait

> a

> while longer before really getting into the tape though I'll

> probably watch it again to familiarize myself with it more.

>

> As you probably can tell, I really like spring, greenary, and

> nature. It's a big event for me to go outside, look for signs

> of

> spring, and find them. Like the greenary of the the neighbor's

> daffodils. Daffodils are one of my favorite flowers. I guess

> because when I was a kid, a neighbor in that neighborhood also

> had

> daffodils planted in her yard. When those yellow blossoms

> appeared,

> one knew winter was over. Winter might make a few encore

> appearances, but its heart just isn't in it. The worst of

> winter is

> over. Daffodils are such a " happy " flower to me. I guess

> because I

> was always so happy at the return of warm weather and spring.

> (I can

> remember being bothered by cold weather even as a kid.)

>

> The person who built this place also planted several saucer

> magnolias (aka Oriental magnolias) in the deep front yard. Like

>

> daffodils, these are among the earliest things to bloom. Their

> buds

> haven't started to swell yet. (Or if they have, it's too

> slight for

> me to recognize.)

>

>

 

 

 

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In searching the archives for " aromatherapy " , I came up with this post.

 

It is fairly apparent that I am kidney yang deficienct and spleen chi

deficient (?? proper term) based on the discussion here and some

on-line research.

 

My tongue is moist and large and has teeth indentations. I have

always tended to be cold and have a deep pulse. (Allopaths always

said I was a " hard stick " .) Low back pain, if I sit or stand, too

long. Occasionaly, I will get headaches above my neck. Lots of other

symptoms that I won't go into, although I found " cock's crow diarrhea "

to be hysterical. It's funny because I just thought it was something

weird that people on my mother's side get. I didn't expect it to have

a name in TCM!

 

Apparently, KYD is constitutional in me since many of these symptoms

are evident on my mother's side and some can even be traced back to

her parents. The other factor pointing to constitutionality, I would

imagine, is that I am fairly young, 32. Come to think of it, my ears

are very tiny (my three year old's ears are larger). Would that also

indicate a constitutional kidney yang deficiency since kidney qi comes

out through the ears? Just curious.

 

Anyway, I thought that I could safely follow the food guidelines for

KYD since it seems almost slam dunk, until I can get to a

practitioner. Cooked, warmed foods. Small frequent meals. Happily,

I like a lot of the recommended foods already. Chicken, shrimp,

walnuts. I read somewhere that I should also eat grains. My primary

grain is oatmeal, believe it or not, but I understand that is

contraindicated because it tends to make you mucousy. Perhaps someone

mentioned that here.

 

I am not a fan of ginger (not even candied ginger) but I do like

cinnamon, which brings me to the aromatherapy. I was wondering if

anyone thought it would be helpful to burn cinnamon incense or a

cinnamon candle for it's warming effects along with eating it. And

vice versa, should I not burn a citrus candle since citrus is cooling?

 

And then, this post brings up microwaving. I am one that thought that

raw foods were best, but it does make sense that cooked foods are

easier on one who has digestive problems--spleen chi issues. But I

tend to prepare, or purchase several servings of food and then reheat

them in the microwave. So why shouldn't I use a microwave?

 

Zenisis

 

 

Chinese Traditional Medicine , " hyldemoer " <hyldemoer> wrote:

>

>

>

> <snip>

> > There is a difference between the

> > quality of heat produced by different types of heating pads. It's

> > not something that most people would notice,

>

> There are differences in the qualities of energies in foods cooked in

> vessles of different materials (ceramic, metal, etc.) and over heats

> produced by different fuels (gas, electricity, wood, straw, etc.)

>

> <snip>

> > I saw an ad for some microwaveable, herbal booties. I may check

> > those out one of these days. Or try to make some. They slip over

> > the feet.

>

> My children bought me a pair a couple years back. The herbs (or

> whatever is producing the annoying stink pretty) isn't very

> appropriate for adjusting my balance

> plus

> I doubt if the scent is produced in a totally natural herbal method.

>

> A positive part of having them is that the stink pretty lingered in

> the microwave oven long enough that my husband learned he

> could live without microwaving his food to warm it (a

> habit I'd been trying to detour him from).

>

> Our microwave is now exclusively for heating my home made hot packs.

> Without that use, it would have been placed in the garbage long ago.

>

> > I imagine microwaveable herbal hand warmers could be

> > made. Or one with velcro that could wrap around the knee or the

> > wrist or elbow or wherever a person needs extra heat.

>

> Yes, make your own.

> Choose the appropriate herbs and color of fabric.

> Think pleasant thoughts while doing it.

>

> Penel

>

[Guest guest]

Zen asked: So why shouldn't I use a microwave?

 

Science still has no idea what all those microwaves

are doing around your kitchen, to your food and in

your body, and don't expect to read about the dangers

of microwaves in the American media.

 

The best way to cook food is by slow steaming,

microwave is probably the worst.

 

Regards, Jack

 

--- zenisis7 <findme wrote:

 

> In searching the archives for " aromatherapy " , I came

> up with this post.

>

> It is fairly apparent that I am kidney yang

> deficienct and spleen chi

> deficient (?? proper term) based on the discussion

> here and some

> on-line research.

>

> My tongue is moist and large and has teeth

> indentations. I have

> always tended to be cold and have a deep pulse.

> (Allopaths always

> said I was a " hard stick " .) Low back pain, if I sit

> or stand, too

> long. Occasionaly, I will get headaches above my

> neck. Lots of other

> symptoms that I won't go into, although I found

> " cock's crow diarrhea "

> to be hysterical. It's funny because I just

> thought it was something

> weird that people on my mother's side get. I didn't

> expect it to have

> a name in TCM!

>

> Apparently, KYD is constitutional in me since many

> of these symptoms

> are evident on my mother's side and some can even be

> traced back to

> her parents. The other factor pointing to

> constitutionality, I would

> imagine, is that I am fairly young, 32. Come to

> think of it, my ears

> are very tiny (my three year old's ears are larger).

> Would that also

> indicate a constitutional kidney yang deficiency

> since kidney qi comes

> out through the ears? Just curious.

>

> Anyway, I thought that I could safely follow the

> food guidelines for

> KYD since it seems almost slam dunk, until I can get

> to a

> practitioner. Cooked, warmed foods. Small frequent

> meals. Happily,

> I like a lot of the recommended foods already.

> Chicken, shrimp,

> walnuts. I read somewhere that I should also eat

> grains. My primary

> grain is oatmeal, believe it or not, but I

> understand that is

> contraindicated because it tends to make you

> mucousy. Perhaps someone

> mentioned that here.

>

> I am not a fan of ginger (not even candied ginger)

> but I do like

> cinnamon, which brings me to the aromatherapy. I

> was wondering if

> anyone thought it would be helpful to burn cinnamon

> incense or a

> cinnamon candle for it's warming effects along with

> eating it. And

> vice versa, should I not burn a citrus candle since

> citrus is cooling?

>

> And then, this post brings up microwaving. I am one

> that thought that

> raw foods were best, but it does make sense that

> cooked foods are

> easier on one who has digestive problems--spleen chi

> issues. But I

> tend to prepare, or purchase several servings of

> food and then reheat

> them in the microwave. So why shouldn't I use a

> microwave?

>

> Zenisis

>

>

> Chinese Traditional Medicine , " hyldemoer "

> <hyldemoer> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > <snip>

> > > There is a difference between the

> > > quality of heat produced by different types of

> heating pads. It's

> > > not something that most people would notice,

> >

> > There are differences in the qualities of energies

> in foods cooked in

> > vessles of different materials (ceramic, metal,

> etc.) and over heats

> > produced by different fuels (gas, electricity,

> wood, straw, etc.)

> >

> > <snip>

> > > I saw an ad for some microwaveable, herbal

> booties. I may check

> > > those out one of these days. Or try to make

> some. They slip over

> > > the feet.

> >

> > My children bought me a pair a couple years back.

> The herbs (or

> > whatever is producing the annoying stink pretty)

> isn't very

> > appropriate for adjusting my balance

> > plus

> > I doubt if the scent is produced in a totally

> natural herbal method.

> >

> > A positive part of having them is that the stink

> pretty lingered in

> > the microwave oven long enough that my husband

> learned he

> > could live without microwaving his food to warm it

> (a

> > habit I'd been trying to detour him from).

> >

> > Our microwave is now exclusively for heating my

> home made hot packs.

> > Without that use, it would have been placed in the

> garbage long ago.

> >

> > > I imagine microwaveable herbal hand warmers

> could be

> > > made. Or one with velcro that could wrap around

> the knee or the

> > > wrist or elbow or wherever a person needs extra

> heat.

> >

> > Yes, make your own.

> > Choose the appropriate herbs and color of fabric.

> > Think pleasant thoughts while doing it.

> >

> > Penel

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Well, if Science has no idea what all those microwaves are doing, then

the only thing you can say is that _*we do not know*_. Saying that they

are bad because you do not know wether they are beneficial or not is

intellectually dishonest. It is the same as saying this guy is evil

because he does not look like us...

Not everything the Western World produces is bad

Frederic

 

Jack Sweeney wrote:

 

> Zen asked: So why shouldn't I use a microwave?

>

> Science still has no idea what all those microwaves

> are doing around your kitchen, to your food and in

> your body, and don't expect to read about the dangers

> of microwaves in the American media.

>

> The best way to cook food is by slow steaming,

> microwave is probably the worst.

>

> Regards, Jack

>

> --- zenisis7 <findme wrote:

>

> > In searching the archives for " aromatherapy " , I came

> > up with this post.

> >

> > It is fairly apparent that I am kidney yang

> > deficienct and spleen chi

> > deficient (?? proper term) based on the discussion

> > here and some

> > on-line research.

> >

> > My tongue is moist and large and has teeth

> > indentations. I have

> > always tended to be cold and have a deep pulse.

> > (Allopaths always

> > said I was a " hard stick " .) Low back pain, if I sit

> > or stand, too

> > long. Occasionaly, I will get headaches above my

> > neck. Lots of other

> > symptoms that I won't go into, although I found

> > " cock's crow diarrhea "

> > to be hysterical. It's funny because I just

> > thought it was something

> > weird that people on my mother's side get. I didn't

> > expect it to have

> > a name in TCM!

> >

> > Apparently, KYD is constitutional in me since many

> > of these symptoms

> > are evident on my mother's side and some can even be

> > traced back to

> > her parents. The other factor pointing to

> > constitutionality, I would

> > imagine, is that I am fairly young, 32. Come to

> > think of it, my ears

> > are very tiny (my three year old's ears are larger).

> > Would that also

> > indicate a constitutional kidney yang deficiency

> > since kidney qi comes

> > out through the ears? Just curious.

> >

> > Anyway, I thought that I could safely follow the

> > food guidelines for

> > KYD since it seems almost slam dunk, until I can get

> > to a

> > practitioner. Cooked, warmed foods. Small frequent

> > meals. Happily,

> > I like a lot of the recommended foods already.

> > Chicken, shrimp,

> > walnuts. I read somewhere that I should also eat

> > grains. My primary

> > grain is oatmeal, believe it or not, but I

> > understand that is

> > contraindicated because it tends to make you

> > mucousy. Perhaps someone

> > mentioned that here.

> >

> > I am not a fan of ginger (not even candied ginger)

> > but I do like

> > cinnamon, which brings me to the aromatherapy. I

> > was wondering if

> > anyone thought it would be helpful to burn cinnamon

> > incense or a

> > cinnamon candle for it's warming effects along with

> > eating it. And

> > vice versa, should I not burn a citrus candle since

> > citrus is cooling?

> >

> > And then, this post brings up microwaving. I am one

> > that thought that

> > raw foods were best, but it does make sense that

> > cooked foods are

> > easier on one who has digestive problems--spleen chi

> > issues. But I

> > tend to prepare, or purchase several servings of

> > food and then reheat

> > them in the microwave. So why shouldn't I use a

> > microwave?

> >

> > Zenisis

> >

> >

> > Chinese Traditional Medicine , " hyldemoer "

> > <hyldemoer> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > <snip>

> > > > There is a difference between the

> > > > quality of heat produced by different types of

> > heating pads. It's

> > > > not something that most people would notice,

> > >

> > > There are differences in the qualities of energies

> > in foods cooked in

> > > vessles of different materials (ceramic, metal,

> > etc.) and over heats

> > > produced by different fuels (gas, electricity,

> > wood, straw, etc.)

> > >

> > > <snip>

> > > > I saw an ad for some microwaveable, herbal

> > booties. I may check

> > > > those out one of these days. Or try to make

> > some. They slip over

> > > > the feet.

> > >

> > > My children bought me a pair a couple years back.

> > The herbs (or

> > > whatever is producing the annoying stink pretty)

> > isn't very

> > > appropriate for adjusting my balance

> > > plus

> > > I doubt if the scent is produced in a totally

> > natural herbal method.

> > >

> > > A positive part of having them is that the stink

> > pretty lingered in

> > > the microwave oven long enough that my husband

> > learned he

> > > could live without microwaving his food to warm it

> > (a

> > > habit I'd been trying to detour him from).

> > >

> > > Our microwave is now exclusively for heating my

> > home made hot packs.

> > > Without that use, it would have been placed in the

> > garbage long ago.

> > >

> > > > I imagine microwaveable herbal hand warmers

> > could be

> > > > made. Or one with velcro that could wrap around

> > the knee or the

> > > > wrist or elbow or wherever a person needs extra

> > heat.

> > >

> > > Yes, make your own.

> > > Choose the appropriate herbs and color of fabric.

> > > Think pleasant thoughts while doing it.

> > >

> > > Penel

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

>

> Zen asked: So why shouldn't I use a microwave?

 

The number one reason - among many - that one should not use

microwaves is that it alters the structure of proteins making them

something like plastic - and that hard part that forms is a

combination of carbohydrates and proteins (glycation) - this is one

of the most harmful substances that the body might have to deal

with - this glycation process is the same one that we deal with when

we form phlegm (ama) - the difference is that it is even more

harmful because the fluids have been driven out and we are left with

something toxic and unuseable by the body. This is the same thing

that happens when we damage any protein that we are going to eat-

like in over-frying eggs (that plastic like substance that forms

around the edge)or searing meats (Bar-B-Que), etc.. These types of

damaged proteins should never be eaten as they cause many problems

for the Stomach, Liver, Blood, and Kidneys (all of the organs

responsible for attempting to digest, assimilate, and eliminate

these toxic substances). Many speculate an important relationship

between these damaged proteins and cancer. At any rate if the body

can not eliminate these substances - then what happens to them?

There are many such substances that when ingested are very difficult

to get out of the body and they continue to cause problems for years

to come - hydrocarbons, heavy metals (lead, mercury, etc.), damaged

fused proteins, etc.

 

A good alternative to microwaves for someone who wants a quick

heating and defrosting tool is FAR ovens - these are ovens that use

infrared lamps to cook - when used in a moist environment these are

excellent ways to quickly cook food - but all 'dry' heating has the

potential to damage proteins - this is why the Chinese use rapid

stir-frying, steaming, and boiling as the most popular ways to cook

protein foods. One popular FAR oven is Flavor/Wave - I see it

advertised on TV in the US all the time. My reccomendation for

cooking all protein foods is to cook in moist heat (steaming,

boiling, etc.)

[Guest guest]

Vinod,

 

Here is part of an article on this subject! You may look at the whole

article in Mercola.com ... the html for the article is

http://www.mercola.com/article/microwave/hazards.htm

 

Love and Light,

Domingo

 

P. S. Yes, I did get rid of my microwave.... better safe than sorry! I use

a convection oven now!

 

 

 

*Microwaves unsafe for baby's milk*

 

A number of warnings have been made public, but have been barely noticed.

For example, Young Families, the Minnesota Extension Service of the

University of Minnesota, published the following in 1989:

 

" Although microwaves heat food quickly, they are not recommended for heating

a baby's bottle. The bottle may seem cool to the touch, but the liquid

inside may become extremely hot and could burn the baby's mouth and throat.

 

Also, the buildup of steam in a closed container, such as a baby bottle,

could cause it to explode. Heating the bottle in a microwave can cause

slight changes in the milk. In infant formulas, there may be a loss of some

vitamins.

 

In expressed breast milk, some protective properties may be destroyed.

Warming a bottle by holding it under tap water, or by setting it in a bowl

of warm water, then testing it on your wrist before feeding may take a few

minutes longer, but it is much safer. "

 

*Dr. Lita Lee of Hawaii reported in the December 9, 1989 Lancet: *

 

" Microwaving baby formulas converted certain trans-amino acids into their

synthetic cis-isomers. Synthetic isomers, whether cis-amino acids or

trans-fatty acids, are not biologically active.

 

Further, one of the amino acids, L-proline, was converted to its d-isomer,

which is known to be neurotoxic (poisonous to the nervous system) and

nephrotoxic (poisonous to the kidneys). It's bad enough that many babies are

not nursed, but now they are given fake milk (baby formula) made even more

toxic via microwaving. "

 

*Microwaved blood kills patient*

 

In 1991, there was a lawsuit in Oklahoma concerning the hospital use of a

microwave oven to warm blood needed in a transfusion. The case involved a

hip surgery patient, Norma Levitt, who died from a simple blood transfusion.

 

 

It seems the nurse had warmed the blood in a microwave oven. This tragedy

makes it very apparent that there's much more to " heating " with microwaves

than we've been led to believe. Blood for transfusions is routinely warmed,

but not in microwave ovens. In the case of Mrs. Levitt, the microwaving

altered the blood and it killed her.

 

It's very obvious that this form of microwave radiation " heating " does

something to the substances it heats. It's also becoming quite apparent that

people who process food in a microwave oven are also ingesting these

" unknowns " .

 

Because the body is electrochemical in nature, any force that disrupts or

changes human electrochemical events will affect the physiology of the body.

This is further described in Robert O. Becker's book, The Body Electric, and

in Ellen Sugarman's book, Warning, the Electricity Around You May Be

Hazardous to Your Health.

 

*Scientific evidence and facts*

 

In Comparative Study of Food Prepared Conventionally and in the Microwave

Oven, published by Raum & Zelt in 1992, at 3(2): 43, it states

 

" A basic hypothesis of natural medicine states that the introduction into

the human body of molecules and energies, to which it is not accustomed, is

much more likely to cause harm than good.

 

Microwaved food contains both molecules and energies not present in food

cooked in the way humans have been cooking food since the discovery of fire.

Microwave energy from the sun and other stars is direct current based.

 

Artificially produced microwaves, including those in ovens, are produced

from alternating current and force a billion or more polarity reversals per

second in every food molecule they hit.

 

Production of unnatural molecules is inevitable. Naturally occurring amino

acids have been observed to undergo isomeric changes (changes in shape

morphing) as well as transformation into toxic forms, under the impact of

microwaves produced in ovens.

 

One short-term study found significant and disturbing changes in the blood

of individuals consuming microwaved milk and vegetables. Eight volunteers

ate various combinations of the same foods cooked different ways.

 

All foods that were processed through the microwave ovens caused changes in

the blood of the volunteers. Hemoglobin levels decreased and over all white

cell levels and cholesterol levels increased. Lymphocytes decreased.

 

Luminescent (light-emitting) bacteria were employed to detect energetic

changes in the blood. Significant increases were found in the luminescence

of these bacteria when exposed to blood serum obtained after the consumption

of microwaved food. "

 

*The Swiss clinical study*

 

Dr. Hans Ulrich Hertel, who is now retired, worked as a food scientist for

many years with one of the major Swiss food companies that do business on a

global scale. A few years ago, he was fired from his job for questioning

certain processing procedures that denatured the food.

 

In 1991, he and a Lausanne University professor published a research paper

indicating that food cooked in microwave ovens could pose a greater risk to

health than food cooked by conventional means.

 

An article also appeared in issue 19 of the Journal Franz Weber in which it

was stated that the consumption of food cooked in microwave ovens had

cancerous effects on the blood. The research paper itself followed the

article. On the cover of the magazine there was a picture of the Grim Reaper

holding a microwave oven in one of his hands.

 

Dr. Hertel was the first scientist to conceive and carry out a quality

clinical study on the effects microwaved nutrients have on the blood and

physiology of the human body.

 

His small but well controlled study showed the degenerative force produced

in microwave ovens and the food processed in them. The scientific conclusion

showed that microwave cooking changed the nutrients in the food; and,

changes took place in the participants' blood that could cause deterioration

in the human system.

 

Hertel's scientific study was done along with Dr. Bernard H. Blanc of the

Swiss Federal Institute of Technology and the University Institute for

Biochemistry.

 

In intervals of two to five days, the volunteers in the study received one

of the following food variants on an empty stomach: (1) raw milk; (2) the

same milk conventionally cooked; (3) pasteurized milk; (4) the same raw

milks cooked in a microwave oven; (5) raw vegetables from an organic farm;

(6) the same vegetables cooked conventionally; (7) the same vegetables

frozen and defrosted in a microwave oven; and (8) the same vegetables cooked

in the microwave oven.

 

Once the volunteers were isolated, blood samples were taken from every

volunteer immediately before eating. Then, blood samples were taken at

defined intervals after eating from the above milk or vegetable

preparations.

 

Significant changes were discovered in the blood samples from the intervals

following the foods cooked in the microwave oven. These changes included a

decrease in all hemoglobin and cholesterol values, especially the ratio of

HDL (good cholesterol) and LDL (bad cholesterol) values.

 

Lymphocytes (white blood cells) showed a more distinct short-term decrease

following the intake of microwaved food than after the intake of all the

other variants. Each of these indicators pointed to degeneration.

 

Additionally, there was a highly significant association between the amount

of microwave energy in the test foods and the luminous power of luminescent

bacteria exposed to serum from test persons who ate that food.

 

This led Dr. Hertel to the conclusion that such technically derived energies

may, indeed, be passed along to man inductively via eating microwaved food.

 

*According to Dr. Hertel,*

 

" Leukocytosis, which cannot be accounted for by normal daily deviations, is

taken very seriously by hemotologists. Leukocytes are often signs of

pathogenic effects on the living system, such as poisoning and cell damage.

 

The increase of leukocytes with the microwaved foods were more pronounced

than with all the other variants. It appears that these marked increases

were caused entirely by ingesting the microwaved substances.

 

This process is based on physical principles and has already been confirmed

in the literature. The apparent additional energy exhibited by the

luminescent bacteria was merely an extra confirmation.

 

There is extensive scientific literature concerning the hazardous effects of

direct microwave radiation on living systems. It is astonishing, therefore,

to realize how little effort has been taken to replace this detrimental

technique of microwaves with technology more in accordance with nature.

 

Technically produced microwaves are based on the principle of alternating

current. Atoms, molecules, and cells hit by this hard electromagnetic

radiation are forced to reverse polarity 1-100 billion times a second.

 

There are no atoms, molecules or cells of any organic system able to

withstand such a violent, destructive power for any extended period of time,

not even in the low energy range of milliwatts.

 

Of all the natural substances - which are polar - the oxygen of water

molecules reacts most sensitively. This is how microwave cooking heat is

generated - friction from this violence in water molecules.

 

Structures of molecules are torn apart, molecules are forcefully deformed,

called structural isomerism, and thus become impaired in quality. This is

contrary to conventional heating of food where heat transfers convectionally

from without to within.

 

Cooking by microwaves begins within the cells and molecules where water is

present and where the energy is transformed into frictional heat.

 

In addition to the violent frictional heat effects, called thermic effects,

there are also athermic effects which have hardly ever been taken into

account. These athermic effects are not presently measurable, but they can

also deform the structures of molecules and have qualitative consequences.

 

For example the weakening of cell membranes by microwaves is used in the

field of gene altering technology. Because of the force involved, the cells

are actually broken, thereby neutralizing the electrical potentials, the

very life of the cells, between the outer and inner side of the cell

membranes.

 

Impaired cells become easy prey for viruses, fungi and other microorganisms.

The natural repair mechanisms are suppressed and cells are forced to adapt

to a state of energy emergency - they switch from aerobic to anaerobic

respiration. Instead of water and carbon dioxide, the cell poisons hydrogen

peroxide and carbon monoxide are produced. "

 

The same violent deformations that occur in our bodies, when we are directly

exposed to radar or microwaves, also occur in the molecules of foods cooked

in a microwave oven.

 

This radiation results in the destruction and deformation of food molecules.

Microwaving also creates new compounds, called radiolytic compounds, which

are unknown fusions not found in nature. Radiolytic compounds are created by

molecular decomposition - decay - as a direct result of radiation.

 

Microwave oven manufacturers insist that microwaved and irradiated foods do

not have any significantly higher radiolytic compounds than do broiled,

baked or other conventionally cooked foods.

 

The scientific clinical evidence presented here has shown that this is

simply a lie. In America, neither universities nor the federal government

have conducted any tests concerning the effects on our bodies from eating

microwaved foods. Isn't that a bit odd?

 

They're more concerned with studies on what happens if the door on a

microwave oven doesn't close properly. Once again, common sense tells us

that their attention should be centered on what happens to food cooked

inside a microwave oven.

 

Since people ingest this altered food, shouldn't there be concern for how

the same decayed molecules will affect our own human biological cell

structure?

 

*Industry's action to hide the truth*

 

As soon as Doctors Hertel and Blanc published their results, the authorities

reacted. A powerful trade organization, the Swiss Association of Dealers for

Electro-apparatuses for Households and Industry, known as FEA, struck

swiftly in 1992.

 

They forced the President of the Court of Seftigen, Canton of Bern, to issue

a " gag order " against Drs. Hertel and Blanc. In March 1993, Dr. Hertel was

convicted for " interfering with commerce " and prohibited from further

publishing his results. However, Dr. Hertel stood his ground and fought this

decision over the years.

 

Not long ago, this decision was reversed in a judgment delivered in

Strasbourg, Austria, on August 25, 1998. The European Court of Human Rights

held that there had been a violation of Hertel's rights in the 1993

decision.

 

The European Court of Human Rights also ruled that the " gag order " issued by

the Swiss court in 1992 against Dr. Hertel, prohibiting him from declaring

that microwave ovens are dangerous to human health, was contrary to the

right to freedom of expression. In addition, Switzerland was ordered to pay

Dr. Hertel compensation.

 

*Carcinogens in microwaved food*

 

In Dr. Lita Lee's book, Health Effects of Microwave Radiation - Microwave

Ovens, and in the March and September 1991 issues of Earthletter, she stated

that every microwave oven leaks electro-magnetic radiation, harms food, and

converts substances cooked in it to dangerous organ-toxic and carcinogenic

products.

 

Further research summarized in this article reveal that microwave ovens are

far more harmful than previously imagined.

 

The following is a summary of the Russian investigations published by the

Atlantis Raising Educational Center in Portland, Oregon. Carcinogens were

formed in virtually all foods tested.

 

No test food was subjected to more microwaving than necessary to accomplish

the purpose, i.e., cooking, thawing, or heating to insure sanitary

ingestion. Here's a summary of some of the results:

 

- Microwaving prepared meats sufficiently to insure sanitary ingestion

caused formation of d-Nitrosodienthanolamines, a well-known carcinogen.

Microwaving milk and cereal grains converted some of their amino acids

into carcinogens.

Thawing frozen fruits converted their glucoside and galactoside

containing fractions into carcinogenic substances.

Extremely short exposure of raw, cooked or frozen vegetables converted

their plant alkaloids into carcinogens.

Carcinogenic free radicals were formed in microwaved plants,

especially root vegetables.

Decrease in nutritional value

Russian researchers also reported a marked acceleration of structural

degradation leading to a decreased food value of 60 to 90% in all foods

tested. Among the changes observed were:

Deceased bio-availability of vitamin B complex, vitamin C, vitamin E,

essential minerals and lipotropics factors in all food tested.

Various kinds of damaged to many plant substances, such as alkaloids,

glucosides, galactosides and nitrilosides.

The degradation of nucleo-proteins in meats.

 

*Microwave sickness is discovered*

 

The Russians did research on thousands of workers who had been exposed to

microwaves during the development of radar in the 1950's. Their research

showed health problems so serious that the Russians set strict limits of 10

microwatts exposure for workers and one microwatt for civilians.

 

In Robert O. Becker's book, The Body Electric, he described Russian research

on the health effects of microwave radiation, which they called " microwave

sickness. " On page 314, Becker states:

 

" It's [Microwave sickness] first signs are low blood pressure and slow

pulse. The later and most common manifestations are chronic excitation of

the sympathetic nervous system [stress syndrome] and high blood pressure.

 

This phase also often includes headache, dizziness, eye pain, sleeplessness,

irritability, anxiety, stomach pain, nervous tension, inability to

concentrate, hair loss, plus an increased incidence of appendicitis,

cataracts, reproductive problems, and cancer.

 

The chronic symptoms are eventually succeeded by crisis of adrenal

exhaustion and ischemic heart disease [the blockage of coronary arteries and

heart attacks]. "

 

According to Dr. Lee, changes are observed in the blood chemistries and the

rates of certain diseases among consumers of microwaved foods. The symptoms

above can easily be caused by the observations shown below. The following is

a sample of these changes:

 

Lymphatic disorders were observed, leading to decreased ability to prevent

certain types of cancers.

 

An increased rate of cancer cell formation was observed in the blood.

Increased rates of stomach and intestinal cancers were observed.

Higher rates of digestive disorders and a gradual breakdown of the systems

of elimination were observed.

 

*Microwave research conclusions*

The following were the most significant German and Russian research

operations facilities concerning the biological effects of microwaves:

 

The initial research conducted by the Germans during the Barbarossa military

campaign, at the Humbolt-Universitat zu Berlin (1942-1943); and,

 

From 1957 and up to the present [until the end of the cold war], the Russian

research operations were conducted at: the Institute of Radio Technology at

Kinsk, Byelorussian Autonomous Region; and, at the Institute of Radio

Technology at Rajasthan in the Rossiskaja Autonomous Region, both in the

Union of the Soviet Socialist Republics.

 

In most cases, the foods used for research analysis were exposed to

microwave propagation at an energy potential of 100 kilowatts/cm3/second, to

the point considered acceptable for sanitary, normal ingestion. The effects

noted by both German and Russian researchers is presented in three

categories:

 

- Category I, Cancer-Causing Effects

- Category II, Nutritive Destruction of Foods

- Category III, Biological Effects of Exposure

 

 

*CATEGORY I *

 

*CANCER-CAUSING EFFECTS*

 

[The first two points of Category I are not readable from our report copy.

The remainder of the report is intact.]

 

3. Creation of a " binding effect " to radioactivity in the atmosphere, thus

causing a marked increase in the amount of alpha and beta particle

saturation in foods;

 

4. Creation of cancer causing agents within protein hydrolysate compounds*

in milk and cereal grains [*these are natural proteins that are split into

unnatural fragments by the addition of water];

 

5. Alteration of elemental food-substances, causing disorders in the

digestive system by unstable catabolism* of foods subjected to microwaves

[*the metabolic breakdown process];

 

6. Due to chemical alterations within food substances, malfunctions were

observed within the lymphatic systems [absorbent vessels], causing a

degeneration of the immune potentials of the body to protect against certain

forms of neoplastics [abnormal growths of tissue];

 

7. Ingestion of microwaved foods caused a higher percentage of cancerous

cells within the blood serum [cytomas - cell tumors such as sarcoma];

 

8. Microwave emissions caused alteration in the catabolic [metabolic

breakdown] behavior of glucoside [hydrolyzed dextrose] and galactoside

[oxidized alcohol] elements within frozen fruits when thawed in this manner;

 

 

9. Microwave emission caused alteration of the catabolic [metabolic

breakdown] behavior of plant alkaloids [organic nitrogen based elements]

when raw, cooked, or frozen vegetables were exposed for even extremely short

durations;

 

10. Cancer causing free radicals [highly reactive incomplete molecules] were

formed within certain trace mineral molecular formations in plant

substances, and in particular, raw root-vegetables; and,

 

11. In a statistically high percentage of persons, microwaved foods caused

stomach and intestinal cancerous growths, as well as a general degeneration

of peripheral cellular tissues, with a gradual breakdown of the function of

the digestive and excretive systems.

 

*CATEGORY II *

 

*DECREASE IN FOOD VALUE*

 

Microwave exposure caused significant decreases in the nutritive value of

all foods researched. The following are the most important findings:

 

1. A decrease in the bioavailability [capability of the body to utilize the

nutriment] of B-complex vitamins, Vitamin C, Vitamin E, essential minerals

and lipotropics in all foods;

 

2. A loss of 60-90% of the vital energy field content of all tested foods;

 

3. A reduction in the metabolic behavior and integration process capability

of alkaloids [organic nitrogen based elements], glucosides and galactosides,

and nitrilosides;

 

4. A destruction of the nutritive value of nucleoproteins in meats;

 

5. A marked acceleration of structural disintegration in all foods.

 

*CATEGORY III *

 

*BIOLOGICAL EFFECTS OF EXPOSURE*

 

Exposure to microwave emissions also had an unpredictably negative effect

upon the general biological welfare of humans.

 

This was not discovered until the Russians experimented with highly

sophisticated equipment and discovered that a human did not even need to

ingest the material substance of the microwaved food substances: that even

exposure to the energy-field itself was sufficient to cause such adverse

side effects that the use of any such microwave apparatus was forbidden in

1976 by Soviet state law.

 

The following are the enumerated effects:

 

1. A breakdown of the human " life-energy field " in those who were exposed to

microwave ovens while in operation, with side-effects to the human energy

field of increasingly longer duration;

 

2. A degeneration of the cellular voltage parallels during the process of

using the apparatus, especially in the blood and lymphatic areas;

 

3. A degeneration and destabilization of the external energy activated

potentials of food utilization within the processes of human metabolism;

 

4. A degeneration and destabilization of internal cellular membrane

potentials while transferring catabolic [metabolic breakdown] processes into

the blood serum from the digestive process;

 

5. Degeneration and circuit breakdowns of electrical nerve impulses within

the junction potentials of the cerebrum [the front portion of the brain

where thought and higher functions reside];

 

6. A degeneration and breakdown of nerve electrical circuits and loss of

energy field symmetry in the neuroplexuses [nerve centers] both in the front

and the rear of the central and autonomic nervous systems;

 

7. Loss of balance and circuiting of the bioelectric strengths within the

ascending reticular activating system [the system which controls the

function of consciousness];

 

8. A long term cumulative loss of vital energies within humans, animals and

plants that were located within a 500-meter radius of the operational

equipment;

 

9. Long lasting residual effects of magnetic " deposits " were located

throughout the nervous system and lymphatic system;

 

10. A destabilization and interruption in the production of hormones and

maintenance of hormonal balance in males and females;

 

11. Markedly higher levels of brainwave disturbance in the alpha, theta, and

delta wave signal patterns of persons exposed to microwave emission fields,

and;

 

12. Because of this brainwave disturbance, negative psychological effects

were noted, including loss of memory, loss of ability to concentrate,

suppressed emotional threshold, deceleration of intellective processes, and

interruptive sleep episodes in a statistically higher percentage of

individuals subjected to continual range emissive field effects of microwave

apparatus, either in cooking apparatus or in transmission stations.

 

*Forensic Research Conclusions*

 

From the twenty-eight above enumerated indications, the use of microwave

apparatus is definitely not advisable; and, with the decision of the Soviet

government in 1976, present scientific opinion in many countries concerning

the use of such apparatus is clearly in evidence.

 

Due to the problem of random magnetic residulation and binding within the

biological systems of the body (Category III:9), which can ultimately effect

the neurological systems, primarily the brain and neuroplexuses (nerve

centers), long term depolarization of tissue neuroelectric circuits can

result.

 

Because these effects can cause virtually irreversible damage to the

neuroelectrical integrity of the various components of the nervous system

(I. R. Luria, Novosibirsk 1975a), ingestion of microwaved foods is clearly

contraindicated in all respects.

 

Their magnetic residual effect can render the pyschoneural receptor

components of the brain more subject to influence psychologically by

artificially induced microwave radio frequency fields from transmission

stations and TV relay-networks.

 

The theoretical possibility of psycho telemetric influence (the capability

of affecting human behavior by transmitted radio signals at controlled

frequencies) has been suggested by Soviet neuropsychological investigations

at Uralyera and Novosibirsk (Luria and Perov, 1974a, 1975c, 1976a), which

can cause involuntary subliminal psychological energy field compliance to

operative microwave apparatus.

 

FORENSIC RESEARCH DOCUMENT

Prepared By: William P. Kopp

A. R. E. C. Research Operations

TO61-7R10/10-77F05

RELEASE PRIORITY: CLASS I ROO1a

 

*Ten Reasons to Throw out your Microwave Oven*

 

From the conclusions of the Swiss, Russian and German scientific clinical

studies, we can no longer ignore the microwave oven sitting in our kitchens.

Based on this research, we will conclude this article with the following:

 

1). Continually eating food processed from a microwave oven causes long term

- permanent - brain damage by " shorting out " electrical impulses in the

brain [de-polarizing or de-magnetizing the brain tissue].

 

2). The human body cannot metabolize [break down] the unknown by-products

created in microwaved food.

 

3). Male and female hormone production is shut down and/or altered by

continually eating microwaved foods.

 

4). The effects of microwaved food by-products are residual [long term,

permanent] within the human body.

 

5). Minerals, vitamins, and nutrients of all microwaved food is reduced or

altered so that the human body gets little or no benefit, or the human body

absorbs altered compounds that cannot be broken down.

 

6). The minerals in vegetables are altered into cancerous free radicals when

cooked in microwave ovens.

 

7). Microwaved foods cause stomach and intestinal cancerous growths

[tumors]. This may explain the rapidly increased rate of colon cancer in

America.

 

8). The prolonged eating of microwaved foods causes cancerous cells to

increase in human blood.

 

9). Continual ingestion of microwaved food causes immune system deficiencies

through lymph gland and blood serum alterations.

 

10). Eating microwaved food causes loss of memory, concentration, emotional

instability, and a decrease of intelligence.

 

Have you tossed out your microwave oven yet?

 

After you throw out your microwave you can use a toaster oven as a

replacement. It works well for most and is nearly as quick.

 

The use of artificial microwave transmissions for subliminal psychological

control, a.k.a. " brainwashing " , has also been proven. We're attempting to

obtain copies of the 1970's Russian research documents and results written

by Drs. Luria and Perov specifying their clinical experiments in this area.

 

 

 

On 12/12/05, Vinod Kumar <vinod3x3 wrote:

>

>

> >

> > Zen asked: So why shouldn't I use a microwave?

>

> The number one reason - among many - that one should not use

> microwaves is that it alters the structure of proteins making them

> something like plastic - and that hard part that forms is a

> combination of carbohydrates and proteins (glycation) - this is one

> of the most harmful substances that the body might have to deal

> with - this glycation process is the same one that we deal with when

> we form phlegm (ama) - the difference is that it is even more

> harmful because the fluids have been driven out and we are left with

> something toxic and unuseable by the body. This is the same thing

> that happens when we damage any protein that we are going to eat-

> like in over-frying eggs (that plastic like substance that forms

> around the edge)or searing meats (Bar-B-Que), etc.. These types of

> damaged proteins should never be eaten as they cause many problems

> for the Stomach, Liver, Blood, and Kidneys (all of the organs

> responsible for attempting to digest, assimilate, and eliminate

> these toxic substances). Many speculate an important relationship

> between these damaged proteins and cancer. At any rate if the body

> can not eliminate these substances - then what happens to them?

> There are many such substances that when ingested are very difficult

> to get out of the body and they continue to cause problems for years

> to come - hydrocarbons, heavy metals (lead, mercury, etc.), damaged

> fused proteins, etc.

>

> A good alternative to microwaves for someone who wants a quick

> heating and defrosting tool is FAR ovens - these are ovens that use

> infrared lamps to cook - when used in a moist environment these are

> excellent ways to quickly cook food - but all 'dry' heating has the

> potential to damage proteins - this is why the Chinese use rapid

> stir-frying, steaming, and boiling as the most popular ways to cook

> protein foods. One popular FAR oven is Flavor/Wave - I see it

> advertised on TV in the US all the time. My reccomendation for

> cooking all protein foods is to cook in moist heat (steaming,

> boiling, etc.)

>

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[Guest guest]

Frederic:

 

I know microwaves are bad for humans, I simply didn't

have the time to do the extra research, as others have

since done, to inform Zen completely.

 

There was no intellectual dishonesty at all involved,

just a little shorthand. There is absolutely no

question that microwaves are harmful and not in the

least bit beneficial.

 

Regards, Jack

 

--- Frederic Lecut <fredlecut wrote:

 

> Well, if Science has no idea what all those

> microwaves are doing, then

> the only thing you can say is that _*we do not

> know*_. Saying that they

> are bad because you do not know wether they are

> beneficial or not is

> intellectually dishonest. It is the same as saying

> this guy is evil

> because he does not look like us...

> Not everything the Western World produces is bad

> Frederic

>

> Jack Sweeney wrote:

>

> > Zen asked: So why shouldn't I use a microwave?

> >

> > Science still has no idea what all those

> microwaves

> > are doing around your kitchen, to your food and in

> > your body, and don't expect to read about the

> dangers

> > of microwaves in the American media.

> >

> > The best way to cook food is by slow steaming,

> > microwave is probably the worst.

> >

> > Regards, Jack

> >

> > --- zenisis7 <findme wrote:

> >

> > > In searching the archives for " aromatherapy " , I

> came

> > > up with this post.

> > >

> > > It is fairly apparent that I am kidney yang

> > > deficienct and spleen chi

> > > deficient (?? proper term) based on the

> discussion

> > > here and some

> > > on-line research.

> > >

> > > My tongue is moist and large and has teeth

> > > indentations. I have

> > > always tended to be cold and have a deep pulse.

> > > (Allopaths always

> > > said I was a " hard stick " .) Low back pain, if I

> sit

> > > or stand, too

> > > long. Occasionaly, I will get headaches above

> my

> > > neck. Lots of other

> > > symptoms that I won't go into, although I found

> > > " cock's crow diarrhea "

> > > to be hysterical. It's funny because I just

> > > thought it was something

> > > weird that people on my mother's side get. I

> didn't

> > > expect it to have

> > > a name in TCM!

> > >

> > > Apparently, KYD is constitutional in me since

> many

> > > of these symptoms

> > > are evident on my mother's side and some can

> even be

> > > traced back to

> > > her parents. The other factor pointing to

> > > constitutionality, I would

> > > imagine, is that I am fairly young, 32. Come to

> > > think of it, my ears

> > > are very tiny (my three year old's ears are

> larger).

> > > Would that also

> > > indicate a constitutional kidney yang deficiency

> > > since kidney qi comes

> > > out through the ears? Just curious.

> > >

> > > Anyway, I thought that I could safely follow the

> > > food guidelines for

> > > KYD since it seems almost slam dunk, until I can

> get

> > > to a

> > > practitioner. Cooked, warmed foods. Small

> frequent

> > > meals. Happily,

> > > I like a lot of the recommended foods already.

> > > Chicken, shrimp,

> > > walnuts. I read somewhere that I should also

> eat

> > > grains. My primary

> > > grain is oatmeal, believe it or not, but I

> > > understand that is

> > > contraindicated because it tends to make you

> > > mucousy. Perhaps someone

> > > mentioned that here.

> > >

> > > I am not a fan of ginger (not even candied

> ginger)

> > > but I do like

> > > cinnamon, which brings me to the aromatherapy.

> I

> > > was wondering if

> > > anyone thought it would be helpful to burn

> cinnamon

> > > incense or a

> > > cinnamon candle for it's warming effects along

> with

> > > eating it. And

> > > vice versa, should I not burn a citrus candle

> since

> > > citrus is cooling?

> > >

> > > And then, this post brings up microwaving. I am

> one

> > > that thought that

> > > raw foods were best, but it does make sense that

> > > cooked foods are

> > > easier on one who has digestive problems--spleen

> chi

> > > issues. But I

> > > tend to prepare, or purchase several servings of

> > > food and then reheat

> > > them in the microwave. So why shouldn't I use a

> > > microwave?

> > >

> > > Zenisis

> > >

> > >

> > > Chinese Traditional Medicine ,

> " hyldemoer "

> > > <hyldemoer> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > <snip>

> > > > > There is a difference between the

> > > > > quality of heat produced by different types

> of

> > > heating pads. It's

> > > > > not something that most people would notice,

> > > >

> > > > There are differences in the qualities of

> energies

> > > in foods cooked in

> > > > vessles of different materials (ceramic,

> metal,

> > > etc.) and over heats

> > > > produced by different fuels (gas, electricity,

> > > wood, straw, etc.)

> > > >

> > > > <snip>

> > > > > I saw an ad for some microwaveable, herbal

> > > booties. I may check

> > > > > those out one of these days. Or try to make

> > > some. They slip over

> > > > > the feet.

> > > >

> > > > My children bought me a pair a couple years

> back.

> > > The herbs (or

> > > > whatever is producing the annoying stink

> pretty)

> > > isn't very

> > > > appropriate for adjusting my balance

> > > > plus

> > > > I doubt if the scent is produced in a totally

> > > natural herbal method.

> > > >

> > > > A positive part of having them is that the

> stink

> > > pretty lingered in

> > > > the microwave oven long enough that my husband

> > > learned he

> > > > could live without microwaving his food to

> warm it

> > > (a

> > > > habit I'd been trying to detour him from).

> > > >

> > > > Our microwave is now exclusively for heating

> my

> > > home made hot packs.

> > > > Without that use, it would have been placed in

> the

> > > garbage long ago.

> > > >

> > > > > I imagine microwaveable herbal hand warmers

> > > could be

> > > > > made. Or one with velcro that could wrap

> around

> > > the knee or the

> > > > > wrist or elbow or wherever a person needs

> extra

> > > heat.

> > > >

> > > > Yes, make your own.

> > > > Choose the appropriate herbs and color of

> fabric.

> > > > Think pleasant thoughts while doing it.

> > > >

> > > > Penel

> > > >

>

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Hmmm OK then Jack - I was alittle overcarried and apologize.

I read some of the research. Although I agree it raises questions, I am

still not fully convinced that Microwaves are always bad when it comes

to cooking. I do not see how warming up water to brew tea can be

detrimental to the quality of water. However, there are other cases

where I agree one should be more careful. One thing is for sure :

Microwave cooking does not taste good !

Regards

Frederic

 

Jack Sweeney wrote:

 

> Frederic:

>

> I know microwaves are bad for humans, I simply didn't

> have the time to do the extra research, as others have

> since done, to inform Zen completely.

>

> There was no intellectual dishonesty at all involved,

> just a little shorthand. There is absolutely no

> question that microwaves are harmful and not in the

> least bit beneficial.

>

> Regards, Jack

>

> --- Frederic Lecut <fredlecut wrote:

>

> > Well, if Science has no idea what all those

> > microwaves are doing, then

> > the only thing you can say is that _*we do not

> > know*_. Saying that they

> > are bad because you do not know wether they are

> > beneficial or not is

> > intellectually dishonest. It is the same as saying

> > this guy is evil

> > because he does not look like us...

> > Not everything the Western World produces is bad

> > Frederic

> >

> > Jack Sweeney wrote:

> >

> > > Zen asked: So why shouldn't I use a microwave?

> > >

> > > Science still has no idea what all those

> > microwaves

> > > are doing around your kitchen, to your food and in

> > > your body, and don't expect to read about the

> > dangers

> > > of microwaves in the American media.

> > >

> > > The best way to cook food is by slow steaming,

> > > microwave is probably the worst.

> > >

> > > Regards, Jack

> > >

> > > --- zenisis7 <findme wrote:

> > >

> > > > In searching the archives for " aromatherapy " , I

> > came

> > > > up with this post.

> > > >

> > > > It is fairly apparent that I am kidney yang

> > > > deficienct and spleen chi

> > > > deficient (?? proper term) based on the

> > discussion

> > > > here and some

> > > > on-line research.

> > > >

> > > > My tongue is moist and large and has teeth

> > > > indentations. I have

> > > > always tended to be cold and have a deep pulse.

> > > > (Allopaths always

> > > > said I was a " hard stick " .) Low back pain, if I

> > sit

> > > > or stand, too

> > > > long. Occasionaly, I will get headaches above

> > my

> > > > neck. Lots of other

> > > > symptoms that I won't go into, although I found

> > > > " cock's crow diarrhea "

> > > > to be hysterical. It's funny because I just

> > > > thought it was something

> > > > weird that people on my mother's side get. I

> > didn't

> > > > expect it to have

> > > > a name in TCM!

> > > >

> > > > Apparently, KYD is constitutional in me since

> > many

> > > > of these symptoms

> > > > are evident on my mother's side and some can

> > even be

> > > > traced back to

> > > > her parents. The other factor pointing to

> > > > constitutionality, I would

> > > > imagine, is that I am fairly young, 32. Come to

> > > > think of it, my ears

> > > > are very tiny (my three year old's ears are

> > larger).

> > > > Would that also

> > > > indicate a constitutional kidney yang deficiency

> > > > since kidney qi comes

> > > > out through the ears? Just curious.

> > > >

> > > > Anyway, I thought that I could safely follow the

> > > > food guidelines for

> > > > KYD since it seems almost slam dunk, until I can

> > get

> > > > to a

> > > > practitioner. Cooked, warmed foods. Small

> > frequent

> > > > meals. Happily,

> > > > I like a lot of the recommended foods already.

> > > > Chicken, shrimp,

> > > > walnuts. I read somewhere that I should also

> > eat

> > > > grains. My primary

> > > > grain is oatmeal, believe it or not, but I

> > > > understand that is

> > > > contraindicated because it tends to make you

> > > > mucousy. Perhaps someone

> > > > mentioned that here.

> > > >

> > > > I am not a fan of ginger (not even candied

> > ginger)

> > > > but I do like

> > > > cinnamon, which brings me to the aromatherapy.

> > I

> > > > was wondering if

> > > > anyone thought it would be helpful to burn

> > cinnamon

> > > > incense or a

> > > > cinnamon candle for it's warming effects along

> > with

> > > > eating it. And

> > > > vice versa, should I not burn a citrus candle

> > since

> > > > citrus is cooling?

> > > >

> > > > And then, this post brings up microwaving. I am

> > one

> > > > that thought that

> > > > raw foods were best, but it does make sense that

> > > > cooked foods are

> > > > easier on one who has digestive problems--spleen

> > chi

> > > > issues. But I

> > > > tend to prepare, or purchase several servings of

> > > > food and then reheat

> > > > them in the microwave. So why shouldn't I use a

> > > > microwave?

> > > >

> > > > Zenisis

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Chinese Traditional Medicine ,

> > " hyldemoer "

> > > > <hyldemoer> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > <snip>

> > > > > > There is a difference between the

> > > > > > quality of heat produced by different types

> > of

> > > > heating pads. It's

> > > > > > not something that most people would notice,

> > > > >

> > > > > There are differences in the qualities of

> > energies

> > > > in foods cooked in

> > > > > vessles of different materials (ceramic,

> > metal,

> > > > etc.) and over heats

> > > > > produced by different fuels (gas, electricity,

> > > > wood, straw, etc.)

> > > > >

> > > > > <snip>

> > > > > > I saw an ad for some microwaveable, herbal

> > > > booties. I may check

> > > > > > those out one of these days. Or try to make

> > > > some. They slip over

> > > > > > the feet.

> > > > >

> > > > > My children bought me a pair a couple years

> > back.

> > > > The herbs (or

> > > > > whatever is producing the annoying stink

> > pretty)

> > > > isn't very

> > > > > appropriate for adjusting my balance

> > > > > plus

> > > > > I doubt if the scent is produced in a totally

> > > > natural herbal method.

> > > > >

> > > > > A positive part of having them is that the

> > stink

> > > > pretty lingered in

> > > > > the microwave oven long enough that my husband

> > > > learned he

> > > > > could live without microwaving his food to

> > warm it

> > > > (a

> > > > > habit I'd been trying to detour him from).

> > > > >

> > > > > Our microwave is now exclusively for heating

> > my

> > > > home made hot packs.

> > > > > Without that use, it would have been placed in

> > the

> > > > garbage long ago.

> > > > >

> > > > > > I imagine microwaveable herbal hand warmers

> > > > could be

> > > > > > made. Or one with velcro that could wrap

> > around

> > > > the knee or the

> > > > > > wrist or elbow or wherever a person needs

> > extra

> > > > heat.

> > > > >

> > > > > Yes, make your own.

> > > > > Choose the appropriate herbs and color of

> > fabric.

> > > > > Think pleasant thoughts while doing it.

> > > > >

> > > > > Penel

> > > > >

> >

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Well, thank you all, I guess my other issues paled in comparison. Now I

gotta figure out how to get rid of the thing responsibly.

 

Zen

 

Jack Sweeney wrote:

 

> Frederic:

>

> I know microwaves are bad for humans, I simply didn't

> have the time to do the extra research, as others have

> since done, to inform Zen completely.

>

> There was no intellectual dishonesty at all involved,

> just a little shorthand. There is absolutely no

> question that microwaves are harmful and not in the

> least bit beneficial.

>

> Regards, Jack

>

> --- Frederic Lecut <fredlecut wrote:

>

> > Well, if Science has no idea what all those

> > microwaves are doing, then

> > the only thing you can say is that _*we do not

> > know*_. Saying that they

> > are bad because you do not know wether they are

> > beneficial or not is

> > intellectually dishonest. It is the same as saying

> > this guy is evil

> > because he does not look like us...

> > Not everything the Western World produces is bad

> > Frederic

> >

> > Jack Sweeney wrote:

> >

> > > Zen asked: So why shouldn't I use a microwave?

> > >

> > > Science still has no idea what all those

> > microwaves

> > > are doing around your kitchen, to your food and in

> > > your body, and don't expect to read about the

> > dangers

> > > of microwaves in the American media.

> > >

> > > The best way to cook food is by slow steaming,

> > > microwave is probably the worst.

> > >

> > > Regards, Jack

> > >

> > > --- zenisis7 <findme wrote:

> > >

> > > > In searching the archives for " aromatherapy " , I

> > came

> > > > up with this post.

> > > >

> > > > It is fairly apparent that I am kidney yang

> > > > deficienct and spleen chi

> > > > deficient (?? proper term) based on the

> > discussion

> > > > here and some

> > > > on-line research.

> > > >

> > > > My tongue is moist and large and has teeth

> > > > indentations. I have

> > > > always tended to be cold and have a deep pulse.

> > > > (Allopaths always

> > > > said I was a " hard stick " .) Low back pain, if I

> > sit

> > > > or stand, too

> > > > long. Occasionaly, I will get headaches above

> > my

> > > > neck. Lots of other

> > > > symptoms that I won't go into, although I found

> > > > " cock's crow diarrhea "

> > > > to be hysterical. It's funny because I just

> > > > thought it was something

> > > > weird that people on my mother's side get. I

> > didn't

> > > > expect it to have

> > > > a name in TCM!

> > > >

> > > > Apparently, KYD is constitutional in me since

> > many

> > > > of these symptoms

> > > > are evident on my mother's side and some can

> > even be

> > > > traced back to

> > > > her parents. The other factor pointing to

> > > > constitutionality, I would

> > > > imagine, is that I am fairly young, 32. Come to

> > > > think of it, my ears

> > > > are very tiny (my three year old's ears are

> > larger).

> > > > Would that also

> > > > indicate a constitutional kidney yang deficiency

> > > > since kidney qi comes

> > > > out through the ears? Just curious.

> > > >

> > > > Anyway, I thought that I could safely follow the

> > > > food guidelines for

> > > > KYD since it seems almost slam dunk, until I can

> > get

> > > > to a

> > > > practitioner. Cooked, warmed foods. Small

> > frequent

> > > > meals. Happily,

> > > > I like a lot of the recommended foods already.

> > > > Chicken, shrimp,

> > > > walnuts. I read somewhere that I should also

> > eat

> > > > grains. My primary

> > > > grain is oatmeal, believe it or not, but I

> > > > understand that is

> > > > contraindicated because it tends to make you

> > > > mucousy. Perhaps someone

> > > > mentioned that here.

> > > >

> > > > I am not a fan of ginger (not even candied

> > ginger)

> > > > but I do like

> > > > cinnamon, which brings me to the aromatherapy.

> > I

> > > > was wondering if

> > > > anyone thought it would be helpful to burn

> > cinnamon

> > > > incense or a

> > > > cinnamon candle for it's warming effects along

> > with

> > > > eating it. And

> > > > vice versa, should I not burn a citrus candle

> > since

> > > > citrus is cooling?

> > > >

> > > > And then, this post brings up microwaving. I am

> > one

> > > > that thought that

> > > > raw foods were best, but it does make sense that

> > > > cooked foods are

> > > > easier on one who has digestive problems--spleen

> > chi

> > > > issues. But I

> > > > tend to prepare, or purchase several servings of

> > > > food and then reheat

> > > > them in the microwave. So why shouldn't I use a

> > > > microwave?

> > > >

> > > > Zenisis

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Chinese Traditional Medicine ,

> > " hyldemoer "

> > > > <hyldemoer> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > <snip>

> > > > > > There is a difference between the

> > > > > > quality of heat produced by different types

> > of

> > > > heating pads. It's

> > > > > > not something that most people would notice,

> > > > >

> > > > > There are differences in the qualities of

> > energies

> > > > in foods cooked in

> > > > > vessles of different materials (ceramic,

> > metal,

> > > > etc.) and over heats

> > > > > produced by different fuels (gas, electricity,

> > > > wood, straw, etc.)

> > > > >

> > > > > <snip>

> > > > > > I saw an ad for some microwaveable, herbal

> > > > booties. I may check

> > > > > > those out one of these days. Or try to make

> > > > some. They slip over

> > > > > > the feet.

> > > > >

> > > > > My children bought me a pair a couple years

> > back.

> > > > The herbs (or

> > > > > whatever is producing the annoying stink

> > pretty)

> > > > isn't very

> > > > > appropriate for adjusting my balance

> > > > > plus

> > > > > I doubt if the scent is produced in a totally

> > > > natural herbal method.

> > > > >

> > > > > A positive part of having them is that the

> > stink

> > > > pretty lingered in

> > > > > the microwave oven long enough that my husband

> > > > learned he

> > > > > could live without microwaving his food to

> > warm it

> > > > (a

> > > > > habit I'd been trying to detour him from).

> > > > >

> > > > > Our microwave is now exclusively for heating

> > my

> > > > home made hot packs.

> > > > > Without that use, it would have been placed in

> > the

> > > > garbage long ago.

> > > > >

> > > > > > I imagine microwaveable herbal hand warmers

> > > > could be

> > > > > > made. Or one with velcro that could wrap

> > around

> > > > the knee or the

> > > > > > wrist or elbow or wherever a person needs

> > extra

> > > > heat.

> > > > >

> > > > > Yes, make your own.

> > > > > Choose the appropriate herbs and color of

> > fabric.

> > > > > Think pleasant thoughts while doing it.

> > > > >

> > > > > Penel

> > > > >

> >

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