Guest guest Posted February 4, 2005 Report Share Posted February 4, 2005 One of my New Year's resolutions this coming Lunar year (starting the 9th of February) is to incorporate moxa into my ABT practice when appropriate. Another resolution that feeds into that resolution is to practice moxabustion on myself more so I can present it with more skill. That part of the resolution will use the tradition of burning moxa at Stomach 36 for the first 8 days of each month (I'm going to use the lunar month as it fits so well;-) Yes, I could use my " tiger warmer " for indirect moxa and I could use those commercially prepared moxa cones for direct but I've been taught how to roll my own rice grain size moxa and I'd like do it that way. I was taught to light those tiny moxas with a stick of Japanese incense. That's my problem. When the moxa's are that tiny the smell of the moxa is hardly noticeable though I imagine the smell of moxa could be thought as part of the therapy. Its the incense I have a problem with. I find all incense nauseating if I have to live with it for an amount of time. Even with a fan exhausting the smoke out the window the stink pretty lingers in the room and on my clothing for hours. I could take my moxa out to the garden but this time of year I'd also be dealing with several inches of snow and some times strong winds. I've tried using a long handled " bick " lighter. That gets a bit tedious when lighting 7 or more moxas in a row. I imagine it might make the whole process a bit more scary to the client as well. Any suggestions? Does any one here use the tradition of rolling their own rice size moxa and what do you use to light them? Penel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2005 Report Share Posted February 5, 2005 Dear Penel: Good for you that you are starting to use moxa, may this improve your practice. The lunar new year is just a few days away, so this is a great time to start. If you plan to go by the lunar calendar, you might consider moxing ST 36 at the appropriate intervals, as by the Liu Zhu system. My doctor has been treating me with acupuncture only for a stomach and intestine problem. Recently I've added moxa on my own and this has helped control the problem directly. Not sure how to advise on lighting moxa. I use the cigar-shaped sticks, which last quite a long time. Moxa sticks do smoke up the room, and the weather is bone-chilling cold outside. But I'd rather tolerate the smoke smell and have the intestine problem taken care of. Best, Jack --- hyldemoer <hyldemoer wrote: > > > One of my New Year's resolutions this coming Lunar > year (starting the > 9th of February) is to incorporate moxa into my ABT > practice when > appropriate. > > Another resolution that feeds into that resolution > is to practice > moxabustion on myself more so I can present it with > more skill. > > That part of the resolution will use the tradition > of burning moxa at > Stomach 36 for the first 8 days of each month (I'm > going to use the > lunar month as it fits so well;-) > > Yes, I could use my " tiger warmer " for indirect moxa > and I could use > those commercially prepared moxa cones for direct > but I've been > taught how to roll my own rice grain size moxa and > I'd like do it > that way. > > I was taught to light those tiny moxas with a stick > of Japanese > incense. > That's my problem. > > When the moxa's are that tiny the smell of the moxa > is hardly > noticeable though I imagine the smell of moxa could > be thought as > part of the therapy. > Its the incense I have a problem with. > I find all incense nauseating if I have to live with > it for an amount > of time. Even with a fan exhausting the smoke out > the window the > stink pretty lingers in the room and on my clothing > for hours. > > I could take my moxa out to the garden but this time > of year I'd also > be dealing with several inches of snow and some > times strong winds. > > I've tried using a long handled " bick " lighter. That > gets a bit > tedious when lighting 7 or more moxas in a row. > I imagine it might make the whole process a bit more > scary to the > client as well. > > Any suggestions? > Does any one here use the tradition of rolling their > own rice size > moxa and what do you use to light them? > > Penel > > > > > > > ===== http://www.geocities.com/mojavecowboy/clinicgz.htm TCM Acupuncture, Herbs, M.A., M.J.,M.L.I.S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2005 Report Share Posted February 5, 2005 Pene: You may wish to consult some of these sites to figure out the best days and times to moxa ST 36: FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) for Zi Wu Liu Zhu Chrono Acupuncture http://www.acupuncture-acupressure-points.com/Zi-Wu-Liu-Zhu-FAQ.html " Practically, there are 3 MNEF Systems practically: (1) Na Jia Fa or Na Gan Fa, The Day-Prescription of Acupoints Techniques (2) Ling Gui Ba Fa , The Eight Magic Turtle Techniques (3) Fei Teng Ba Fa, or Ling Gui Fei Teng, and The Eight Magic Turtle Flying Techniques.... http://www.acupuncture-acupressure-points.com/ " Introduce Chrono Acupuncture, also called Circadian Acupuncture, Zi Wu Liu Zhu or Midnight-Noon Ebb-Flow (MNEF) acupuncture. The calculations to find out an opened acupoint by bio-clock (circadian hours) are complex (to learn the calculations, click here), but our Dr. Wu's Practical Midnight-Noon Ebb-Flow (MNEF) Acupuncture Acupoint Calendar makes it much easier because Dr. Wu, a Chinese doctor, has done all calculation works for you already! " http://altmedangel.com/acumerid.htm A table of qi's circulation: The 24-hour cycle of our biological clocks circadian rhythms AM Meridian most active during this time 1 -3:00 Liver (per John Diamond, the meridian of happiness) 3 -5:00 Lung (the meridian of humility) 5 -7:00 Large Intestine or Colon (the meridian of self-worth) 7 -9:00 Stomach ((the meridian of contentment and tranquility) 9 -11:00 Spleen/Pancreas (the meridian of confidence) 11-1PM Heart (the meridian of forgiveness) PM 1 -3:00 Small Intestine (the meridian of joy) 3 -5:00 Bladder (the meridian of peace and harmony) 5 -7:00 Kidney (the meridian of sexual assuredness) 7 -9:00 Pericardium or Circulation/Sex ((the meridian of relaxation, generosity) 9-11:00 Thyroid/Thymus ((the meridian of hope) 11-1AM Gallbladder (the meridian of adoration) Source: Bronwen Stimpert -- Association for Meridian & Energy Therapies ===== http://www.geocities.com/mojavecowboy/clinicgz.htm TCM Acupuncture, Herbs, M.A., M.J.,M.L.I.S. Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail./mail_250 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2005 Report Share Posted February 5, 2005 Thank you for the suggestions on days and times to moxa. The intake form that I wrote and use for my ABT clients has a place where I make note of the time of day and the weather conditions. Its a factor I consider in interpreting a client's assessment. (The ABT schools I've attended always viewed me as a bit Metal ;-) Time is something that could be considered. I'll probably be durning my moxa during the time of Earth but more because it fits into my schedule then. Burning moxa at St 36 is an arbitary sort of thing. Its a folk custom in Japan. I'm not sure about the rest of Asia. One does it because its said to be good for you. I've heard two variations on this. One is you burn moxa at ST 36 every day of the month. The other is that you burn it at ST 36 the first 8 days of the month. My personal swing on that tradition is that for me it will be a lunar month. A search engine could pull up sites explaining the whole story. If I turn this into a ritual like brushing my teeth and using a neti pot there's small chance I'll let my self moxa practice time fall into occasional/ when I think of it time. There are other points I could use for practice and probably well if I have the time (Spleen 6 and Liver 3 come to mind at the moment) but I don't know of any cute folk tales about monks using self moxa at those other points arbitarily (probably because stories about middle aged female monks going through menopause aren't as popular as drunken male monks doing damage control). I was just wondering if there was a clever alternative to using incense or a " bick " lighter to lighting those tiny rice grain size moxas I was taught to roll. Penel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 Penel: Stimulating ST 36 is supposed to be good for those over 30, and best done on a regular basis, according to one Chinese book on acupuncture. There is a 60-day cycle as well as a 24-hour cycle of the optimum times to stimulate each acupoint, but not exactly sure about the optimum time for ST 36 at the moment. Moxa really does bring a new light to healing. Moxa has helped clean up an intestinal problem that has lingered for quite a long time. My doctor has been zapping ST 36 for months, with needles and electronic acupuncture, which helps somewhat, but the moxa cleaned up the problem in just a few days. Happy Lunar New Year, Jack --- hyldemoer <hyldemoer wrote: > > > Thank you for the suggestions on days and times to > moxa. > > The intake form that I wrote and use for my ABT > clients has a place > where I make note of the time of day and the weather > conditions. Its > a factor I consider in interpreting a client's > assessment. > (The ABT schools I've attended always viewed me as a > bit Metal ;-) > > Time is something that could be considered. > I'll probably be durning my moxa during the time of > Earth but more > because it fits into my schedule then. > > Burning moxa at St 36 is an arbitary sort of thing. > Its a folk > custom in Japan. I'm not sure about the rest of > Asia. > One does it because its said to be good for you. > > I've heard two variations on this. One is you burn > moxa at ST 36 > every day of the month. The other is that you burn > it at ST 36 the > first 8 days of the month. > My personal swing on that tradition is that for me > it will be a lunar > month. > A search engine could pull up sites explaining the > whole story. > > If I turn this into a ritual like brushing my teeth > and using a neti > pot there's small chance I'll let my self moxa > practice time fall > into occasional/ when I think of it time. > > There are other points I could use for practice and > probably well if > I have the time (Spleen 6 and Liver 3 come to mind > at the moment) but > I don't know of any cute folk tales about monks > using self moxa at > those other points arbitarily (probably because > stories about middle > aged female monks going through menopause aren't as > popular as > drunken male monks doing damage control). > > I was just wondering if there was a clever > alternative to using > incense or a " bick " lighter to lighting those tiny > rice grain size > moxas I was taught to roll. > > Penel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ===== http://www.geocities.com/mojavecowboy/clinicgz.htm TCM Acupuncture, Herbs, M.A., M.J.,M.L.I.S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2005 Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 Bersides doing moxa 'just' on st36, there is another 'recipe' (for those with more than 40): first day moxa on st36(left leg if you are a man, right if you are a woman), second day, Ren 6, third day st36, on the other leg. repeat the triangle indefinitely. Marcos --- hyldemoer <hyldemoer escreveu: > > > > Thank you for the suggestions on days and times to moxa. > > The intake form that I wrote and use for my ABT clients has a > place > where I make note of the time of day and the weather > conditions. Its > a factor I consider in interpreting a client's assessment. > (The ABT schools I've attended always viewed me as a bit Metal > ;-) > > Time is something that could be considered. > I'll probably be durning my moxa during the time of Earth but > more > because it fits into my schedule then. > > Burning moxa at St 36 is an arbitary sort of thing. Its a folk > custom in Japan. I'm not sure about the rest of Asia. > One does it because its said to be good for you. > > I've heard two variations on this. One is you burn moxa at ST > 36 > every day of the month. The other is that you burn it at ST 36 > the > first 8 days of the month. > My personal swing on that tradition is that for me it will be a > lunar > month. > A search engine could pull up sites explaining the whole story. > > If I turn this into a ritual like brushing my teeth and using a > neti > pot there's small chance I'll let my self moxa practice time > fall > into occasional/ when I think of it time. > > There are other points I could use for practice and probably > well if > I have the time (Spleen 6 and Liver 3 come to mind at the > moment) but > I don't know of any cute folk tales about monks using self moxa > at > those other points arbitarily (probably because stories about > middle > aged female monks going through menopause aren't as popular as > drunken male monks doing damage control). > > I was just wondering if there was a clever alternative to using > > incense or a " bick " lighter to lighting those tiny rice grain > size > moxas I was taught to roll. > > Penel > _____ Acesso Grátis - Instale o discador do agora. http://br.acesso./ - Internet rápida e grátis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2005 Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 > Bersides doing moxa 'just' on st36, there is another 'recipe' > (for those with more than 40): first day moxa on st36(left leg if > you are a man, right if you are a woman), second day, Ren 6, > third day st36, on the other leg. repeat the triangle > indefinitely. > > Marcos This is interesting. I don't doubt its effectiveness. It sounds like a good routine. Do know what tradition its suggested from? I also know of the Ken Sawada (a Japanese moxibustionist) Whole Body (Tai Kyoku) Treatment.. Its suggested for " whole-body regulation " . CV 12, CV 6 (Ren 12, Ren 6 ;-) Bl 20, Bl 23 St 36, Ki 3 TB 4, Li 11 If I can burn moxa on my own Bladder meridian I'm probably missing a calling to perform in Circ Du Solei, but the teacher who taught me this routine also mentioned that it wasn't necessary to do burn moxa at all the points on the same day. Penel still looking for ways to light moxa that don't rely on stink pretty incense or a scary cigarette lighter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2005 Report Share Posted February 8, 2005 Hi Penel, I forgot to mention that this routine is for Longevity, and is from Japan(taught by Tomio Kikuchi). As for the incense, I usually use the thin Japanese ones, they are more 'discreet' that, say, the Indian variety. --- hyldemoer <hyldemoer escreveu: > > > Bersides doing moxa 'just' on st36, there is another 'recipe' > > (for those with more than 40): first day moxa on st36(left > leg if > > you are a man, right if you are a woman), second day, Ren 6, > > third day st36, on the other leg. repeat the triangle > > indefinitely. > > > > Marcos > > This is interesting. I don't doubt its effectiveness. It sounds > like > a good routine. > Do know what tradition its suggested from? > > I also know of the Ken Sawada (a Japanese moxibustionist) Whole > Body > (Tai Kyoku) Treatment.. > Its suggested for " whole-body regulation " . > CV 12, CV 6 (Ren 12, Ren 6 ;-) > Bl 20, Bl 23 > St 36, Ki 3 > TB 4, Li 11 > > If I can burn moxa on my own Bladder meridian I'm probably > missing a > calling to perform in Circ Du Solei, but the teacher who taught > me > this routine also mentioned that it wasn't necessary to do burn > moxa > at all the points on the same day. > > Penel > still looking for ways to light moxa that don't rely on stink > pretty > incense or a scary cigarette lighter > > > _____ Acesso Grátis - Instale o discador do agora. http://br.acesso./ - Internet rápida e grátis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2005 Report Share Posted February 11, 2005 You could always try and find an incense that you like. This would make moxa-ing more pleasant. The smell of the moxa is a small part of the therapy. The real therapy is from the energy of the moxa that is infused into your body by the cauterization. The energy of moxa is strong and intense. It is definitely not to be played around with, unless you have studied Chinese medicine. That is just my advice. Question, what is ABT? Chinese Traditional Medicine , Jack Sweeney <mojavecowboy> wrote: > > Dear Penel: > > Good for you that you are starting to use moxa, may > this improve your practice. The lunar new year is just > a few days away, so this is a great time to start. > > If you plan to go by the lunar calendar, you might > consider moxing ST 36 at the appropriate intervals, as > by the Liu Zhu system. > > My doctor has been treating me with acupuncture only > for a stomach and intestine problem. Recently I've > added moxa on my own and this has helped control the > problem directly. > > Not sure how to advise on lighting moxa. I use the > cigar-shaped sticks, which last quite a long time. > > Moxa sticks do smoke up the room, and the weather is > bone-chilling cold outside. But I'd rather tolerate > the smoke smell and have the intestine problem taken > care of. > > Best, Jack > > --- hyldemoer <hyldemoer> wrote: > > > > > > > One of my New Year's resolutions this coming Lunar > > year (starting the > > 9th of February) is to incorporate moxa into my ABT > > practice when > > appropriate. > > > > Another resolution that feeds into that resolution > > is to practice > > moxabustion on myself more so I can present it with > > more skill. > > > > That part of the resolution will use the tradition > > of burning moxa at > > Stomach 36 for the first 8 days of each month (I'm > > going to use the > > lunar month as it fits so well;-) > > > > Yes, I could use my " tiger warmer " for indirect moxa > > and I could use > > those commercially prepared moxa cones for direct > > but I've been > > taught how to roll my own rice grain size moxa and > > I'd like do it > > that way. > > > > I was taught to light those tiny moxas with a stick > > of Japanese > > incense. > > That's my problem. > > > > When the moxa's are that tiny the smell of the moxa > > is hardly > > noticeable though I imagine the smell of moxa could > > be thought as > > part of the therapy. > > Its the incense I have a problem with. > > I find all incense nauseating if I have to live with > > it for an amount > > of time. Even with a fan exhausting the smoke out > > the window the > > stink pretty lingers in the room and on my clothing > > for hours. > > > > I could take my moxa out to the garden but this time > > of year I'd also > > be dealing with several inches of snow and some > > times strong winds. > > > > I've tried using a long handled " bick " lighter. That > > gets a bit > > tedious when lighting 7 or more moxas in a row. > > I imagine it might make the whole process a bit more > > scary to the > > client as well. > > > > Any suggestions? > > Does any one here use the tradition of rolling their > > own rice size > > moxa and what do you use to light them? > > > > Penel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ===== > http://www.geocities.com/mojavecowboy/clinicgz.htm > > TCM Acupuncture, Herbs, M.A., M.J.,M.L.I.S. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2005 Report Share Posted February 11, 2005 Hi Jack, When you say doctor, do you mean a Western M.D. or a practitioner of Chinese medicine? There is a big difference here. MDs who practice acupuncture usually learned it in 30 hours or 300 hours...far less than the average time spent by people who study in a 4 to 6 year program. Mei Chinese Traditional Medicine , Jack Sweeney <mojavecowboy> wrote: > > Penel: > > Stimulating ST 36 is supposed to be good for those > over 30, and best done on a regular basis, according > to one Chinese book on acupuncture. > > There is a 60-day cycle as well as a 24-hour cycle of > the optimum times to stimulate each acupoint, but not > exactly sure about the optimum time for ST 36 at the > moment. > > Moxa really does bring a new light to healing. Moxa > has helped clean up an intestinal problem that has > lingered for quite a long time. > > My doctor has been zapping ST 36 for months, with > needles and electronic acupuncture, which helps > somewhat, but the moxa cleaned up the problem in just > a few days. > > Happy Lunar New Year, Jack > --- hyldemoer <hyldemoer> wrote: > > > > > > > Thank you for the suggestions on days and times to > > moxa. > > > > The intake form that I wrote and use for my ABT > > clients has a place > > where I make note of the time of day and the weather > > conditions. Its > > a factor I consider in interpreting a client's > > assessment. > > (The ABT schools I've attended always viewed me as a > > bit Metal ;-) > > > > Time is something that could be considered. > > I'll probably be durning my moxa during the time of > > Earth but more > > because it fits into my schedule then. > > > > Burning moxa at St 36 is an arbitary sort of thing. > > Its a folk > > custom in Japan. I'm not sure about the rest of > > Asia. > > One does it because its said to be good for you. > > > > I've heard two variations on this. One is you burn > > moxa at ST 36 > > every day of the month. The other is that you burn > > it at ST 36 the > > first 8 days of the month. > > My personal swing on that tradition is that for me > > it will be a lunar > > month. > > A search engine could pull up sites explaining the > > whole story. > > > > If I turn this into a ritual like brushing my teeth > > and using a neti > > pot there's small chance I'll let my self moxa > > practice time fall > > into occasional/ when I think of it time. > > > > There are other points I could use for practice and > > probably well if > > I have the time (Spleen 6 and Liver 3 come to mind > > at the moment) but > > I don't know of any cute folk tales about monks > > using self moxa at > > those other points arbitarily (probably because > > stories about middle > > aged female monks going through menopause aren't as > > popular as > > drunken male monks doing damage control). > > > > I was just wondering if there was a clever > > alternative to using > > incense or a " bick " lighter to lighting those tiny > > rice grain size > > moxas I was taught to roll. > > > > Penel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ===== > http://www.geocities.com/mojavecowboy/clinicgz.htm > > TCM Acupuncture, Herbs, M.A., M.J.,M.L.I.S. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2005 Report Share Posted February 12, 2005 <snip> > Question, what is ABT? Asian bodywork therapy. They explain them a bit and the requirements for professional practice at <AOBTA.org> Penel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2005 Report Share Posted February 13, 2005 Mei: My doctor is Chinese, from Sichuan, who learned doctoring at his father's side, then went to school in China and has been practising for six or so years. Jack Chinese Traditional Medicine , " mindbodyacupuncture " <mindbodyacupuncture> wrote: > > > Hi Jack, > When you say doctor, do you mean a Western M.D. or a practitioner of > Chinese medicine? There is a big difference here. MDs who practice > acupuncture usually learned it in 30 hours or 300 hours...far less > than the average time spent by people who study in a > 4 to 6 year program. > > Mei > > > Chinese Traditional Medicine , Jack Sweeney > <mojavecowboy> wrote: > > > > Penel: > > > > Stimulating ST 36 is supposed to be good for those > > over 30, and best done on a regular basis, according > > to one Chinese book on acupuncture. > > > > There is a 60-day cycle as well as a 24-hour cycle of > > the optimum times to stimulate each acupoint, but not > > exactly sure about the optimum time for ST 36 at the > > moment. > > > > Moxa really does bring a new light to healing. Moxa > > has helped clean up an intestinal problem that has > > lingered for quite a long time. > > > > My doctor has been zapping ST 36 for months, with > > needles and electronic acupuncture, which helps > > somewhat, but the moxa cleaned up the problem in just > > a few days. > > > > Happy Lunar New Year, Jack > > --- hyldemoer <hyldemoer> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for the suggestions on days and times to > > > moxa. > > > > > > The intake form that I wrote and use for my ABT > > > clients has a place > > > where I make note of the time of day and the weather > > > conditions. Its > > > a factor I consider in interpreting a client's > > > assessment. > > > (The ABT schools I've attended always viewed me as a > > > bit Metal ;-) > > > > > > Time is something that could be considered. > > > I'll probably be durning my moxa during the time of > > > Earth but more > > > because it fits into my schedule then. > > > > > > Burning moxa at St 36 is an arbitary sort of thing. > > > Its a folk > > > custom in Japan. I'm not sure about the rest of > > > Asia. > > > One does it because its said to be good for you. > > > > > > I've heard two variations on this. One is you burn > > > moxa at ST 36 > > > every day of the month. The other is that you burn > > > it at ST 36 the > > > first 8 days of the month. > > > My personal swing on that tradition is that for me > > > it will be a lunar > > > month. > > > A search engine could pull up sites explaining the > > > whole story. > > > > > > If I turn this into a ritual like brushing my teeth > > > and using a neti > > > pot there's small chance I'll let my self moxa > > > practice time fall > > > into occasional/ when I think of it time. > > > > > > There are other points I could use for practice and > > > probably well if > > > I have the time (Spleen 6 and Liver 3 come to mind > > > at the moment) but > > > I don't know of any cute folk tales about monks > > > using self moxa at > > > those other points arbitarily (probably because > > > stories about middle > > > aged female monks going through menopause aren't as > > > popular as > > > drunken male monks doing damage control). > > > > > > I was just wondering if there was a clever > > > alternative to using > > > incense or a " bick " lighter to lighting those tiny > > > rice grain size > > > moxas I was taught to roll. > > > > > > Penel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ===== > > http://www.geocities.com/mojavecowboy/clinicgz.htm > > > > TCM Acupuncture, Herbs, M.A., M.J.,M.L.I.S. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2005 Report Share Posted February 13, 2005 Hi, A lot of people think that in China from universities is the be all end all of . This is not true. After the Cultural Revolution, Western Medicine and its technological " advances " have been " integrated " into . Since this, the " new integrated Chinese Medicine " is not nearly as effective in healing as the pure expression of it. Now, technological " advances " are attempting to replace real cultivated skill. Of course, this will only lead to more problems and has been a cause of watered down . I dare not call it Traditional , because has been a tradition of the Chinese people since it was created. Laser light stimulation can not replace real Qi. We all know this, but because it is used in medicine, we think it is ok. It isn't. Any device used in place of real energy and Human interaction is a harmful for the body. Even the computer I am using right now. So, we must become highly skilled to really show people what is all about, because at this rate, it will become nothing more than a fad, and then be a result of western science. Then the western medical profession will take all of the credit of . It is happening now, and it will continue to happen until all of the universities of in America stop the commercialism and get the Chinese Medical associations to actually stand up to the medical establishment. There needs to be a change in everything with in the west. So, remember, just because it came from China....nowadays, does not mean its the real thing. Peace, Ai Wei mojavecowboy <mojavecowboy wrote: Mei: My doctor is Chinese, from Sichuan, who learned doctoring at his father's side, then went to school in China and has been practising for six or so years. Jack LAU WAI WING CHUN TONG Shandong - China Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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