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I've posted to this and other groups with some desperation over the

last few months, so this post isn't a crank. I found temporary

relief from brain fog that might help you, too.

 

It's detailed in " Natural Detoxification: A Practical Encyclopedia "

(Jacqueline Krohn, MD, & Frances Taylor, MA; Hartley & Marks

Publishers, PO Box 147, Pt.Roberts, WA 98281, $24.95), p. 406. The

authors have a practice in New Mexico. It references a citrus drink

and " Polari tea " flush by Christopher Hobbs, a master herbalist and

acupuncturist. I tried it once, and was able to eat dairy products

w/o brain fog for several days. I'm going to try it for the

recommended 10 days to see if it cuts the fog more severely. I'm

posting it in case you'd like to try it.

 

Krohn's book is a bit scary, claiming there are toxins in everything

we eat, and includes horror stories of people who've used the

authors' methods and discovered they'd had parasites for years, etc.

Many of the authors' assertions aren't explained, making readers

wonder about their claims. They say not to take an enema with tap

water (I discovered later that's b/c city water is chlorinated, which

kills the good bacteria during this process). They should've

explained why. The authors claim coffee enemas are good for you and

were practiced for centuries until a few decades ago. This is

portrayed as something that should still be practiced ( " bleeding " was

done for centuries too!).

 

I dismissed their claims of the flush as they didn't say for how long

to do it, but more explanation is in " Alternative Medicine Guide to

Chronic Fatigue, Fibromyalgia, and Environmental Illness " (by Burton

Goldberg and the Editors of Alternative Medicine Digest, 1998, Future

Medicine Publishing Inc, Tiburon, CA 94920, p.148), and thought I'd

try it. Neither book gives the function of the herbs. I looked them

up, wrote everything down, and promptly forgot where I put it or what

it said. Perhaps you can relate?

 

The Goldberg book says to take the citrus-tea flush for 10 days to

flush out your liver. Stop for 3 days, then do it for 10 days more.

Krohn (abv) then says a coffee enema is good (don't do it before the

citrus-tea flush or you'll have a spastic colon for days, as I

discovered!). I'll post the coffee enema details later if you want

them. That's supposed to flush out the liver, too.

 

THE FLUSH (2 PARTS)

Citrus Drink

1 cup of freshly squeezed lemon juice (can contain lime or

grapefruit; lemon should be most of it though; 4 lemons give about 1

cup)

2 cloves garlic, chopped finely

1 Tablespoon (extra virgin or virgin) olive oil

shredded ginger (use a cheese grater; no amt given; maybe a

teaspoon's worth or less as it tastes strong)

 

Mix and drink. (I did it in 3 gulps!) It's sour, but not too bad.

Brush your teeth w/baking soda to neutralize the acid on your teeth!

Wait 1 hour. Do not eat any foods during this time (no mention as to

fluids).

After 1 hour, drink 2 cups of Polari Tea:

1 Tablespoon fennel

1 Tbsp flax (unspecified form; I use the seeds)

¼ Tbsp burdock (unspecified form; I use the root)

1 Tbsp fenugreek

¼ Tbsp licorice

½ Tbsp marshmallow root (optional)

 

(If you're making a big batch, the above comes out to ¼ cup of the

herb mixture.)

 

Simmer in 20 oz water (2 cups; use 2½ or 3 cups as the herbs absorb

water) for 20 minutes. Add 1 Tbsp peppermint; simmer 10 minutes,

then drink. It tastes pleasant. (You can make several quarts to

drink later.) I ate the soggy herbs that remained to get everything

out of them.

 

Neither book says how long to wait before eating solid food. I wait

about 1 hr.

 

You'll feel the fog lifting throughout this process. Try it on a

weekend to see how it affects you. They say it's " best " in the

morning on an empty stomach; I did it then wks ago and last night

before dinner w/o a problem. Neither drink made me sick or anything.

 

WHERE TO BUY

Buy lemons in the supermarket (2 for 78 cts) or at a farmer's market

(3 for $1). They looked nicer in the supermarket, but both looked

and tasted the same when cut open. Ginger is at Wegman's ($1.99/lb)

or at a farmer's market (same price). Nature's Way sells it for

$8.99/lb! Garlic is at a supermarket or farmer's market (cheaper at

a f.m.).

 

I squeezed the lemons without a rind grater (for making orange juice –

remember those plastic thingy-ies made by Tupperware? Use one or

you'll be sore doing it by hand!), but did it with a " Juicer " Sis got

me for Xmas last night. (I didn't keep track as to quantity, as I

peeled and skinned nearly 30 lemons and just wanted to get it done

with before " Lost " and before it got too late!)

 

Buy the herbs at a health food store as they're cheaper than online.

They're usu. less than $1/oz. You'll be stunned at the mark-up on

bottled herbs in the supermarket! (Highway robbery!)

 

As I've been saying, dairy products give me brain fog, and no

specialist has been able to tell me why. After I took this flush one

Saturday morning before Xmas, I could eat dairy for about a week w/o

brain fog. It gradually crept up on me w/in a wk, and my memory was

a little better during that time. I'm going to try it for a longer

time to see what happens. I'll let you know how things turn out.

Good luck!

 

 

Glenn

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This is really interesting. Thank you for posting the reference. I

want to say something, but I don't want this to sound insulting in

any way. I've heard over and again that dairy is something that

adults typically do not need, that it is an allergenic and causes

problems even when the symptoms are not overtly noticable ... why do

you continue to eat dairy? The brain fog it causes you may be

eleviated by this tea, but I am concerned that it may be causing you

problems that are less noticeable or attributable to the dairy.

Forgive my intrusion.

 

 

herbal remedies , " apchat2000 " <apchat@m...>

wrote:

>

>

> I've posted to this and other groups with some desperation over

the

> last few months, so this post isn't a crank. I found temporary

> relief from brain fog that might help you, too.

>

> It's detailed in " Natural Detoxification: A Practical

Encyclopedia "

> (Jacqueline Krohn, MD, & Frances Taylor, MA; Hartley & Marks

> Publishers, PO Box 147, Pt.Roberts, WA 98281, $24.95), p. 406.

The

> authors have a practice in New Mexico. It references a citrus

drink

> and " Polari tea " flush by Christopher Hobbs, a master herbalist

and

> acupuncturist. I tried it once, and was able to eat dairy

products

> w/o brain fog for several days. I'm going to try it for the

> recommended 10 days to see if it cuts the fog more severely. I'm

> posting it in case you'd like to try it.

>

> Krohn's book is a bit scary, claiming there are toxins in

everything

> we eat, and includes horror stories of people who've used the

> authors' methods and discovered they'd had parasites for years,

etc.

> Many of the authors' assertions aren't explained, making readers

> wonder about their claims. They say not to take an enema with tap

> water (I discovered later that's b/c city water is chlorinated,

which

> kills the good bacteria during this process). They should've

> explained why. The authors claim coffee enemas are good for you

and

> were practiced for centuries until a few decades ago. This is

> portrayed as something that should still be practiced ( " bleeding "

was

> done for centuries too!).

>

> I dismissed their claims of the flush as they didn't say for how

long

> to do it, but more explanation is in " Alternative Medicine Guide

to

> Chronic Fatigue, Fibromyalgia, and Environmental Illness " (by

Burton

> Goldberg and the Editors of Alternative Medicine Digest, 1998,

Future

> Medicine Publishing Inc, Tiburon, CA 94920, p.148), and thought

I'd

> try it. Neither book gives the function of the herbs. I looked

them

> up, wrote everything down, and promptly forgot where I put it or

what

> it said. Perhaps you can relate?

>

> The Goldberg book says to take the citrus-tea flush for 10 days to

> flush out your liver. Stop for 3 days, then do it for 10 days

more.

> Krohn (abv) then says a coffee enema is good (don't do it before

the

> citrus-tea flush or you'll have a spastic colon for days, as I

> discovered!). I'll post the coffee enema details later if you

want

> them. That's supposed to flush out the liver, too.

>

> THE FLUSH (2 PARTS)

> Citrus Drink

> 1 cup of freshly squeezed lemon juice (can contain lime or

> grapefruit; lemon should be most of it though; 4 lemons give about

1

> cup)

> 2 cloves garlic, chopped finely

> 1 Tablespoon (extra virgin or virgin) olive oil

> shredded ginger (use a cheese grater; no amt given; maybe a

> teaspoon's worth or less as it tastes strong)

>

> Mix and drink. (I did it in 3 gulps!) It's sour, but not too

bad.

> Brush your teeth w/baking soda to neutralize the acid on your

teeth!

> Wait 1 hour. Do not eat any foods during this time (no mention as

to

> fluids).

> After 1 hour, drink 2 cups of Polari Tea:

> 1 Tablespoon fennel

> 1 Tbsp flax (unspecified form; I use the seeds)

> ¼ Tbsp burdock (unspecified form; I use the root)

> 1 Tbsp fenugreek

> ¼ Tbsp licorice

> ½ Tbsp marshmallow root (optional)

>

> (If you're making a big batch, the above comes out to ¼ cup of the

> herb mixture.)

>

> Simmer in 20 oz water (2 cups; use 2½ or 3 cups as the herbs

absorb

> water) for 20 minutes. Add 1 Tbsp peppermint; simmer 10 minutes,

> then drink. It tastes pleasant. (You can make several quarts to

> drink later.) I ate the soggy herbs that remained to get

everything

> out of them.

>

> Neither book says how long to wait before eating solid food. I

wait

> about 1 hr.

>

> You'll feel the fog lifting throughout this process. Try it on a

> weekend to see how it affects you. They say it's " best " in the

> morning on an empty stomach; I did it then wks ago and last night

> before dinner w/o a problem. Neither drink made me sick or

anything.

>

> WHERE TO BUY

> Buy lemons in the supermarket (2 for 78 cts) or at a farmer's

market

> (3 for $1). They looked nicer in the supermarket, but both looked

> and tasted the same when cut open. Ginger is at Wegman's

($1.99/lb)

> or at a farmer's market (same price). Nature's Way sells it for

> $8.99/lb! Garlic is at a supermarket or farmer's market (cheaper

at

> a f.m.).

>

> I squeezed the lemons without a rind grater (for making orange

juice –

> remember those plastic thingy-ies made by Tupperware? Use one or

> you'll be sore doing it by hand!), but did it with a " Juicer " Sis

got

> me for Xmas last night. (I didn't keep track as to quantity, as I

> peeled and skinned nearly 30 lemons and just wanted to get it done

> with before " Lost " and before it got too late!)

>

> Buy the herbs at a health food store as they're cheaper than

online.

> They're usu. less than $1/oz. You'll be stunned at the mark-up on

> bottled herbs in the supermarket! (Highway robbery!)

>

> As I've been saying, dairy products give me brain fog, and no

> specialist has been able to tell me why. After I took this flush

one

> Saturday morning before Xmas, I could eat dairy for about a week

w/o

> brain fog. It gradually crept up on me w/in a wk, and my memory

was

> a little better during that time. I'm going to try it for a

longer

> time to see what happens. I'll let you know how things turn out.

> Good luck!

>

>

> Glenn

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Interesting that you are sensitive to the reactions of dairy. I have

taken lactase pills for some time, and have gone off the dairy on the

occasion, but have never considered the actual " phlegm " (in tcm terms)

obstruction possibility. Certainly, it could lodge the Spleen so that

impairment would cause a foggy sensation. Then to clear it out (with the

Liver of course), would move the obstruction.

Not certain that i would do the cleanse now though as it's winter and

cleanses are indicated more towards Spring and Summer, but it's a good

idea.

Hobbs i think got the recipe from Bruce Berger, it's known as the

Polarity Flush. You go through a tiered diet wherein you see what foods

you are sensitive too while cleansing the system.

Tym

 

 

Brain Fog: Temp. Relief w/Polari Tea

 

 

 

I've posted to this and other groups with some desperation over the

last few months, so this post isn't a crank. I found temporary

relief from brain fog that might help you, too.

 

It's detailed in " Natural Detoxification: A Practical Encyclopedia "

(Jacqueline Krohn, MD, & Frances Taylor, MA; Hartley & Marks

Publishers, PO Box 147, Pt.Roberts, WA 98281, $24.95), p. 406. The

authors have a practice in New Mexico. It references a citrus drink

and " Polari tea " flush by Christopher Hobbs, a master herbalist and

acupuncturist. I tried it once, and was able to eat dairy products

w/o brain fog for several days. I'm going to try it for the

recommended 10 days to see if it cuts the fog more severely. I'm

posting it in case you'd like to try it.

 

Krohn's book is a bit scary, claiming there are toxins in everything

we eat, and includes horror stories of people who've used the

authors' methods and discovered they'd had parasites for years, etc.

Many of the authors' assertions aren't explained, making readers

wonder about their claims. They say not to take an enema with tap

water (I discovered later that's b/c city water is chlorinated, which

kills the good bacteria during this process). They should've

explained why. The authors claim coffee enemas are good for you and

were practiced for centuries until a few decades ago. This is

portrayed as something that should still be practiced ( " bleeding " was

done for centuries too!).

 

I dismissed their claims of the flush as they didn't say for how long

to do it, but more explanation is in " Alternative Medicine Guide to

Chronic Fatigue, Fibromyalgia, and Environmental Illness " (by Burton

Goldberg and the Editors of Alternative Medicine Digest, 1998, Future

Medicine Publishing Inc, Tiburon, CA 94920, p.148), and thought I'd

try it. Neither book gives the function of the herbs. I looked them

up, wrote everything down, and promptly forgot where I put it or what

it said. Perhaps you can relate?

 

The Goldberg book says to take the citrus-tea flush for 10 days to

flush out your liver. Stop for 3 days, then do it for 10 days more.

Krohn (abv) then says a coffee enema is good (don't do it before the

citrus-tea flush or you'll have a spastic colon for days, as I

discovered!). I'll post the coffee enema details later if you want

them. That's supposed to flush out the liver, too.

 

THE FLUSH (2 PARTS)

Citrus Drink

1 cup of freshly squeezed lemon juice (can contain lime or

grapefruit; lemon should be most of it though; 4 lemons give about 1

cup)

2 cloves garlic, chopped finely

1 Tablespoon (extra virgin or virgin) olive oil

shredded ginger (use a cheese grater; no amt given; maybe a

teaspoon's worth or less as it tastes strong)

 

Mix and drink. (I did it in 3 gulps!) It's sour, but not too bad.

Brush your teeth w/baking soda to neutralize the acid on your teeth!

Wait 1 hour. Do not eat any foods during this time (no mention as to

fluids).

After 1 hour, drink 2 cups of Polari Tea:

1 Tablespoon fennel

1 Tbsp flax (unspecified form; I use the seeds)

¼ Tbsp burdock (unspecified form; I use the root)

1 Tbsp fenugreek

¼ Tbsp licorice

½ Tbsp marshmallow root (optional)

 

(If you're making a big batch, the above comes out to ¼ cup of the

herb mixture.)

 

Simmer in 20 oz water (2 cups; use 2½ or 3 cups as the herbs absorb

water) for 20 minutes. Add 1 Tbsp peppermint; simmer 10 minutes,

then drink. It tastes pleasant. (You can make several quarts to

drink later.) I ate the soggy herbs that remained to get everything

out of them.

 

Neither book says how long to wait before eating solid food. I wait

about 1 hr.

 

You'll feel the fog lifting throughout this process. Try it on a

weekend to see how it affects you. They say it's " best " in the

morning on an empty stomach; I did it then wks ago and last night

before dinner w/o a problem. Neither drink made me sick or anything.

 

WHERE TO BUY

Buy lemons in the supermarket (2 for 78 cts) or at a farmer's market

(3 for $1). They looked nicer in the supermarket, but both looked

and tasted the same when cut open. Ginger is at Wegman's ($1.99/lb)

or at a farmer's market (same price). Nature's Way sells it for

$8.99/lb! Garlic is at a supermarket or farmer's market (cheaper at

a f.m.).

 

I squeezed the lemons without a rind grater (for making orange juice –

remember those plastic thingy-ies made by Tupperware? Use one or

you'll be sore doing it by hand!), but did it with a " Juicer " Sis got

me for Xmas last night. (I didn't keep track as to quantity, as I

peeled and skinned nearly 30 lemons and just wanted to get it done

with before " Lost " and before it got too late!)

 

Buy the herbs at a health food store as they're cheaper than online.

They're usu. less than $1/oz. You'll be stunned at the mark-up on

bottled herbs in the supermarket! (Highway robbery!)

 

As I've been saying, dairy products give me brain fog, and no

specialist has been able to tell me why. After I took this flush one

Saturday morning before Xmas, I could eat dairy for about a week w/o

brain fog. It gradually crept up on me w/in a wk, and my memory was

a little better during that time. I'm going to try it for a longer

time to see what happens. I'll let you know how things turn out.

Good luck!

 

 

Glenn

 

 

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Tymothy

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Glenn:

 

Bleeding is still practiced in China. my doctor

regularly bleeds me in the course of acupuncture

treatments, it is one way to eliminate pathogens,

especially from the terminal acupoint of a meridian.

 

By looking at the color of my blood, my doctor can

discern the condition of my Qi.

 

Bleeding is found in contemporary Chinese acupuncture

textbooks as well. Bleeding is just one among an array

of acupuncture techniques.

 

Maybe it is the so-called " advanced " West that has

forsaken the ancient art of blood - letting, to its

own detriment.

 

best, Jack

 

You wrote: " The authors claim coffee enemas are good

for you and were practiced for centuries until a few

decades ago. This is portrayed as something that

should still be practiced ( " bleeding " was done for

centuries too!). "

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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The so-called " Polari Tea " you list below as well as the rest happens to be an

ancient Ayurvedic rx used by many for centuries including yours truly....just

wondering who named it or claimed it " Polari " . My Indian ancestors have been

using this for centuries! LOL, TH

 

Tymothy <jellyphish wrote:

Interesting that you are sensitive to the reactions of dairy. I have

taken lactase pills for some time, and have gone off the dairy on the

occasion, but have never considered the actual " phlegm " (in tcm terms)

obstruction possibility. Certainly, it could lodge the Spleen so that

impairment would cause a foggy sensation. Then to clear it out (with the

Liver of course), would move the obstruction.

Not certain that i would do the cleanse now though as it's winter and

cleanses are indicated more towards Spring and Summer, but it's a good

idea.

Hobbs i think got the recipe from Bruce Berger, it's known as the

Polarity Flush. You go through a tiered diet wherein you see what foods

you are sensitive too while cleansing the system.

Tym

 

 

Brain Fog: Temp. Relief w/Polari Tea

 

 

 

I've posted to this and other groups with some desperation over the

last few months, so this post isn't a crank. I found temporary

relief from brain fog that might help you, too.

 

It's detailed in " Natural Detoxification: A Practical Encyclopedia "

(Jacqueline Krohn, MD, & Frances Taylor, MA; Hartley & Marks

Publishers, PO Box 147, Pt.Roberts, WA 98281, $24.95), p. 406. The

authors have a practice in New Mexico. It references a citrus drink

and " Polari tea " flush by Christopher Hobbs, a master herbalist and

acupuncturist. I tried it once, and was able to eat dairy products

w/o brain fog for several days. I'm going to try it for the

recommended 10 days to see if it cuts the fog more severely. I'm

posting it in case you'd like to try it.

 

Krohn's book is a bit scary, claiming there are toxins in everything

we eat, and includes horror stories of people who've used the

authors' methods and discovered they'd had parasites for years, etc.

Many of the authors' assertions aren't explained, making readers

wonder about their claims. They say not to take an enema with tap

water (I discovered later that's b/c city water is chlorinated, which

kills the good bacteria during this process). They should've

explained why. The authors claim coffee enemas are good for you and

were practiced for centuries until a few decades ago. This is

portrayed as something that should still be practiced ( " bleeding " was

done for centuries too!).

 

I dismissed their claims of the flush as they didn't say for how long

to do it, but more explanation is in " Alternative Medicine Guide to

Chronic Fatigue, Fibromyalgia, and Environmental Illness " (by Burton

Goldberg and the Editors of Alternative Medicine Digest, 1998, Future

Medicine Publishing Inc, Tiburon, CA 94920, p.148), and thought I'd

try it. Neither book gives the function of the herbs. I looked them

up, wrote everything down, and promptly forgot where I put it or what

it said. Perhaps you can relate?

 

The Goldberg book says to take the citrus-tea flush for 10 days to

flush out your liver. Stop for 3 days, then do it for 10 days more.

Krohn (abv) then says a coffee enema is good (don't do it before the

citrus-tea flush or you'll have a spastic colon for days, as I

discovered!). I'll post the coffee enema details later if you want

them. That's supposed to flush out the liver, too.

 

THE FLUSH (2 PARTS)

Citrus Drink

1 cup of freshly squeezed lemon juice (can contain lime or

grapefruit; lemon should be most of it though; 4 lemons give about 1

cup)

2 cloves garlic, chopped finely

1 Tablespoon (extra virgin or virgin) olive oil

shredded ginger (use a cheese grater; no amt given; maybe a

teaspoon's worth or less as it tastes strong)

 

Mix and drink. (I did it in 3 gulps!) It's sour, but not too bad.

Brush your teeth w/baking soda to neutralize the acid on your teeth!

Wait 1 hour. Do not eat any foods during this time (no mention as to

fluids).

After 1 hour, drink 2 cups of Polari Tea:

1 Tablespoon fennel

1 Tbsp flax (unspecified form; I use the seeds)

¼ Tbsp burdock (unspecified form; I use the root)

1 Tbsp fenugreek

¼ Tbsp licorice

½ Tbsp marshmallow root (optional)

 

(If you're making a big batch, the above comes out to ¼ cup of the

herb mixture.)

 

Simmer in 20 oz water (2 cups; use 2½ or 3 cups as the herbs absorb

water) for 20 minutes. Add 1 Tbsp peppermint; simmer 10 minutes,

then drink. It tastes pleasant. (You can make several quarts to

drink later.) I ate the soggy herbs that remained to get everything

out of them.

 

Neither book says how long to wait before eating solid food. I wait

about 1 hr.

 

You'll feel the fog lifting throughout this process. Try it on a

weekend to see how it affects you. They say it's " best " in the

morning on an empty stomach; I did it then wks ago and last night

before dinner w/o a problem. Neither drink made me sick or anything.

 

WHERE TO BUY

Buy lemons in the supermarket (2 for 78 cts) or at a farmer's market

(3 for $1). They looked nicer in the supermarket, but both looked

and tasted the same when cut open. Ginger is at Wegman's ($1.99/lb)

or at a farmer's market (same price). Nature's Way sells it for

$8.99/lb! Garlic is at a supermarket or farmer's market (cheaper at

a f.m.).

 

I squeezed the lemons without a rind grater (for making orange juice –

remember those plastic thingy-ies made by Tupperware? Use one or

you'll be sore doing it by hand!), but did it with a " Juicer " Sis got

me for Xmas last night. (I didn't keep track as to quantity, as I

peeled and skinned nearly 30 lemons and just wanted to get it done

with before " Lost " and before it got too late!)

 

Buy the herbs at a health food store as they're cheaper than online.

They're usu. less than $1/oz. You'll be stunned at the mark-up on

bottled herbs in the supermarket! (Highway robbery!)

 

As I've been saying, dairy products give me brain fog, and no

specialist has been able to tell me why. After I took this flush one

Saturday morning before Xmas, I could eat dairy for about a week w/o

brain fog. It gradually crept up on me w/in a wk, and my memory was

a little better during that time. I'm going to try it for a longer

time to see what happens. I'll let you know how things turn out.

Good luck!

 

 

Glenn

 

 

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Jack,

 

I had no idea bleeding was still practiced. I have no opinion on

whether it's good or bad, although here it's seen as a backward

practice that prohibited the body from fighting infections with less

blood. Maybe the Chinese see things differently.

 

If it works, go with it, I say!

 

 

Glenn

 

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>

> Glenn:

>

> Bleeding is still practiced in China. my doctor

> regularly bleeds me in the course of acupuncture

> treatments, it is one way to eliminate pathogens,

> especially from the terminal acupoint of a meridian.

>

> By looking at the color of my blood, my doctor can

> discern the condition of my Qi.

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