Guest guest Posted November 2, 2004 Report Share Posted November 2, 2004 My apologies to the people in other countries besides the US, but I felt it is important to post this for the people in the US. The fact that something like this needs to be posted is a tip-off to just how bad things have gotten in the US and how much this country has gone downhill and away from its high ideas and moral compass. A lot of things are at stake in this election. Not the least of which include do we continue to invade other countries based on deliberate lies (countries which are no threat to the US but which members of the Project for the New American Century want us to invade and occupy), do we bring back the draft to have the manpower and womanpower to fight these wars, do we go even more into debt to fight these endless wars, do we continue to think we can deaden our collective and individual consciences by ignoring them and by pressing ahead anyway with actions which run so counter to what is best in the American and in individual Americans' psyches, etc.? Do we continue to have the right to choose our medical care and what is done to our bodies? There is a provision in the Homeland Security Act which provides for forced vaccinations of ALL Americans. There are no exceptions for health, religion, or personal choice. Some states already have laws that parents of children diagnosed as ADD or ADHD can lose custody of their children if they don't put their children on dangerous (and expensive) drugs. They are not allowed to pursue alternative treatments. This will only worsen if we continue on our current course. Regardless of how one stands on these and other issues, it is paramount that elections in the US be fair and honest. Regardless of what party one belongs to, who one supports, etc., it is of critical importance that the votes of ALL Americans be counted and that ALL Americans be allowed to vote. If America is to continue as a democracy and continue to be strong, ALL Americans must be allowed their voices and their choices. Otherwise we go the way of every other dictatorship in the dustbin of history. ******************************** Don't Let Problems at the Polls Take Away Your Right to Vote We've read news reports about plans to challenge voters at polling places around the country. Don't let some political hack deny you your most fundamental right as an American citizen — your right to vote. Below, we've created a short guide to protect your rights and advise what to do if someone tries to take them away from you. I encourage you to do two things: 1) Print out this email and take it with you when you go to vote. That way, if you have any trouble, you'll know what to do — on the spot. 2) Forward this email to everyone you know who might be voting tomorrow. It may make the difference between their voting and not voting. Hoping you won't need this, Andrew Greenblatt Online Organizer --- ----------- A QUICK GUIDE TO AVOIDING PROBLEMS AT THE POLLS Before you go to the polls: Find your correct polling place. http://www.mypollingplace.com. They are getting crushed with requests, so if you don't get through right away, try again later or just call your local Board of Elections. To avoid confusion and save time, study the ballot. Check your local newspaper for a copy. Find a form of identification to bring to the polls. Unless you are a first-time voter who registered by mail without sending identification, you have the right to vote without providing ID. However, to avoid hassles just bring ID anyway. A government-issued ID is best (such as a driver's license), but you can also bring a utility bill, paycheck stub, phone bill, or similar papers with your name on them. If your ID does not have a signature, bring two forms of identification. Allow plenty of time to vote, preferably in the morning. There may be lines. Bring something to read. If the line is really long, consider getting a box of donuts or cookies to share to lighten the mood. Someone might be challenging voters just to slow things up in the hope that long lines will scare away voters. If this is happening, let folks in line know so it stiffens their resolve to stay and cast vote. Learn your voting rights: Even if you are not on the voter list, federal law gives you the right to a " provisional ballot. " Insist on one and vote. A regular ballot is preferable, so you should do whatever you can to get a regular ballot first, like going home and getting a second form of identification or going to the polling place where you are definitely on the voter list. But rather than be turned away, demand a provisional ballot. You have the right to vote if you are in line when the polls close. Stay in line until you vote. Find out if your employer will give you time off to vote, if necessary. At the polls: If you are confused about ANYTHING or feel you are being harassed, ask the official poll workers to help. Do not rely on fellow citizens for advice about the ballot, how the voting machines work, or why you are not on the rolls. If someone is challenging your right to vote, ask the poll workers to intervene. If someone harasses you, don't cause a ruckus. Just ignore the harasser, report it to a poll worker, and let the voting process continue. What kinds of things might somebody try? Well, in the past people have insisted on more ID than is required or argued that someone is at the wrong polling place. If something goes wrong, document it. Write down what happened, when, and descriptions of the people involved, including their names, if you can get them. If you have a camera or camera-phone, take pictures. Report voting problems to an organization ready to respond to problems at the polls: Common Cause: Call 1-866-MYVOTE1. This is a hotline you can call to report any voting problems. 1-866-OUR-VOTE. This hotline has been set up by a coalition of nonpartisan groups to deal with the most serious problems on Election Day. They have hundreds of lawyers standing by to immediately respond to the most egregious problems. 1-866-OUR-VOTE is the " 911 " of voter suppression hotlines. Please don't call unless your problem is serious enough that you have to talk to a lawyer immediately. Contact the media. If something is going terribly wrong at a polling site and you have reported it to the folks above, you might want to then call local radio, television, and newspaper reporters. Often problems clear up quickly after a reporter arrives. It's odd that it's come to this. But given how hard Americans have fought for the freedom to pick our government, it ought to take a lot more than these inconveniences and ham-handed attempts by desperate political operatives to dissuade us from casting a ballot. See you at the polls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2004 Report Share Posted November 2, 2004 Bless you Victoria. Lifting you into the light... try this link...a postive, uplifting visualization tool. Feels GOOD. http://www.needlenose.com/win04/vote2.htm Michelle - victoria_dragon Chinese Traditional Medicine Tuesday, November 02, 2004 7:53 AM [Chinese Traditional Medicine] Off Topic: Knowing Your Voting Rights My apologies to the people in other countries besides the US, but I felt it is important to post this for the people in the US. The fact that something like this needs to be posted is a tip-off to just how bad things have gotten in the US and how much this country has gone downhill and away from its high ideas and moral compass. A lot of things are at stake in this election. Not the least of which include do we continue to invade other countries based on deliberate lies (countries which are no threat to the US but which members of the Project for the New American Century want us to invade and occupy), do we bring back the draft to have the manpower and womanpower to fight these wars, do we go even more into debt to fight these endless wars, do we continue to think we can deaden our collective and individual consciences by ignoring them and by pressing ahead anyway with actions which run so counter to what is best in the American and in individual Americans' psyches, etc.? Do we continue to have the right to choose our medical care and what is done to our bodies? There is a provision in the Homeland Security Act which provides for forced vaccinations of ALL Americans. There are no exceptions for health, religion, or personal choice. Some states already have laws that parents of children diagnosed as ADD or ADHD can lose custody of their children if they don't put their children on dangerous (and expensive) drugs. They are not allowed to pursue alternative treatments. This will only worsen if we continue on our current course. Regardless of how one stands on these and other issues, it is paramount that elections in the US be fair and honest. Regardless of what party one belongs to, who one supports, etc., it is of critical importance that the votes of ALL Americans be counted and that ALL Americans be allowed to vote. If America is to continue as a democracy and continue to be strong, ALL Americans must be allowed their voices and their choices. Otherwise we go the way of every other dictatorship in the dustbin of history. ******************************** Don't Let Problems at the Polls Take Away Your Right to Vote We've read news reports about plans to challenge voters at polling places around the country. Don't let some political hack deny you your most fundamental right as an American citizen - your right to vote. Below, we've created a short guide to protect your rights and advise what to do if someone tries to take them away from you. I encourage you to do two things: 1) Print out this email and take it with you when you go to vote. That way, if you have any trouble, you'll know what to do - on the spot. 2) Forward this email to everyone you know who might be voting tomorrow. It may make the difference between their voting and not voting. Hoping you won't need this, Andrew Greenblatt Online Organizer --- ----------- A QUICK GUIDE TO AVOIDING PROBLEMS AT THE POLLS Before you go to the polls: Find your correct polling place. http://www.mypollingplace.com. They are getting crushed with requests, so if you don't get through right away, try again later or just call your local Board of Elections. To avoid confusion and save time, study the ballot. Check your local newspaper for a copy. Find a form of identification to bring to the polls. Unless you are a first-time voter who registered by mail without sending identification, you have the right to vote without providing ID. However, to avoid hassles just bring ID anyway. A government-issued ID is best (such as a driver's license), but you can also bring a utility bill, paycheck stub, phone bill, or similar papers with your name on them. If your ID does not have a signature, bring two forms of identification. Allow plenty of time to vote, preferably in the morning. There may be lines. Bring something to read. If the line is really long, consider getting a box of donuts or cookies to share to lighten the mood. Someone might be challenging voters just to slow things up in the hope that long lines will scare away voters. If this is happening, let folks in line know so it stiffens their resolve to stay and cast vote. Learn your voting rights: Even if you are not on the voter list, federal law gives you the right to a " provisional ballot. " Insist on one and vote. A regular ballot is preferable, so you should do whatever you can to get a regular ballot first, like going home and getting a second form of identification or going to the polling place where you are definitely on the voter list. But rather than be turned away, demand a provisional ballot. You have the right to vote if you are in line when the polls close. Stay in line until you vote. Find out if your employer will give you time off to vote, if necessary. At the polls: If you are confused about ANYTHING or feel you are being harassed, ask the official poll workers to help. Do not rely on fellow citizens for advice about the ballot, how the voting machines work, or why you are not on the rolls. If someone is challenging your right to vote, ask the poll workers to intervene. If someone harasses you, don't cause a ruckus. Just ignore the harasser, report it to a poll worker, and let the voting process continue. What kinds of things might somebody try? Well, in the past people have insisted on more ID than is required or argued that someone is at the wrong polling place. If something goes wrong, document it. Write down what happened, when, and descriptions of the people involved, including their names, if you can get them. If you have a camera or camera-phone, take pictures. Report voting problems to an organization ready to respond to problems at the polls: Common Cause: Call 1-866-MYVOTE1. This is a hotline you can call to report any voting problems. 1-866-OUR-VOTE. This hotline has been set up by a coalition of nonpartisan groups to deal with the most serious problems on Election Day. They have hundreds of lawyers standing by to immediately respond to the most egregious problems. 1-866-OUR-VOTE is the " 911 " of voter suppression hotlines. Please don't call unless your problem is serious enough that you have to talk to a lawyer immediately. Contact the media. If something is going terribly wrong at a polling site and you have reported it to the folks above, you might want to then call local radio, television, and newspaper reporters. Often problems clear up quickly after a reporter arrives. It's odd that it's come to this. But given how hard Americans have fought for the freedom to pick our government, it ought to take a lot more than these inconveniences and ham-handed attempts by desperate political operatives to dissuade us from casting a ballot. See you at the polls. Post message: Chinese Traditional Medicine Subscribe: Chinese Traditional Medicine- Un: Chinese Traditional Medicine- List owner: Chinese Traditional Medicine-owner Shortcut URL to this page: /community/Chinese Traditional Medicine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2004 Report Share Posted November 2, 2004 > My apologies to the people in other countries > besides the US, but I felt it is important to > post this for the people in the US. Thank you Victoria. Its a phlegmy day here in Chicago. I ventured out during a lull in the drizzle to vote. Thankfully, it was without personal negative adventure. Tomorrow I will be spending much more time out in the weather. I'll be joining a vigil at the " Bean " in Millinium Park held by the students of all 7 Chicago City College campuses in support for our striking teachers. I'm an old hippy but my much younger fellow students have been getting a real education on the American process since the teachers went on strike 2 1/2 weeks ago. The only media that has printed an honest story about it so far has been the " Socialist Worker " . The rest of the press seem to be in bed with the administrators of the Chicago City Colleges. Even the mayor seems to be sleeping in that bed. When it occured to me that the strike would be longer than anyone anticipated I switched from my classroom studies to books I like to read (things that interest me personally instead of the Western medical science stuff I need to know to pass the exams). One book that I'd like to share with everyone here on list explains the politics behind what is the currently accepted medical monopoly in the USA. The book is called " Racketeering in Medicine " subtitled " the Suppression of Alternatives " and is written by James P. Carter. M.D., Dr. P.H. Penel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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