Guest guest Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 Afternoon all, I wanted to share what my husband, Clay, has gone through this summer in hopes that it could help someone else. Clay developed a pain in his mid-chest area in early May. It was a sharp stabbing pain that occurred once or twice a week, he didn't think anything about it, so being male he just ignored it. In June, he went to our Primary Care Physician (PCP) because of a pain in his left shoulder that had been there for 5-6 weeks and had not gotten any better and swelling in this feet and ankles. While there Clay happened to mention the chest pain that by this time was occurring 4- 5x a week. As any great PCP would have done the doc took the heart route, thus starting all the visits with two different Cardiologists, EKG's, chest x-rays, c.t. scan of his chest, thallium, stress test, & MRI's. They found nothing. Everything was perfect, textbook perfect and all the time the pain is getting worse. You would have to know Clay; he rides his mountain bike 5x a week for an hour a day, never misses a day (he had pneumonia and never missed a day) of work, loves to keep his yard mowed, and his kids are his life. By the first of Sept.1, he was coming home from work going to bed for a couple of hours getting up eating dinner, playing w/the girls from a chair or laying on the floor, then going back to bed for the night and the pain was continuous 24/7. After ruling out his heart, the PCP referred him to a GI doc, who scheduled an EGD. That procedure was scheduled on 10-4-04 Monday, the EGD and biopsy came back normal. That Saturday evening we were at this parent's house and the pain became so excruciating that his breathing was being affected. He said that when he exhaled his lungs felt as if that were " sticking together " and wouldn't feel back up w/air. After about 3 ½ hrs of this he agreed to go to the ER. I forgot to mention that the pain that he had in his chest also radiated over the left peck, or right under the left peck. After being in the ER a couple of hours and the entire tests redone (x-ray's, EKG's, blood work, etc,) the heart was again ruled out. After they also gave him some sort of cocktail that would numb his up GI track, all that area was also ruled out. HE STILL HAD THE PAIN that he went to the ER with. So they gave him Lortab and released him. He came home and chased bad guys in our house all night long, so it was safe to say that he didn't take that anymore, which was fine because it didn't take the pain away. By Monday he wasn't talking or communicating any more the pain was so intense. They admitted him to the hospital on 10-13-04 for intractable abdominal pain. While in the hospital he had two rounds of Demerol, it didn't take the pain away, and again another host of test …CT abdomen, pelvis, blood workup, and US of his gallbladder. Found nothing, everything perfect. The doctor sat in Clay's room with me and his mom and said that he did not know at this point what to do that the only thing left was to be referred to a lung specialist. Clay has had several cases of pneumonia and Clay's grandma died of Wegner's granulomatosis, so with that and bag full of Ultracet we left the hospital. He was discharged 10-14-04 with no change in his condition. That was Thursday night, all this time I have been asking him to visit my doctor in Norman. Dr. Xiaohai Li is a NCCA Acupuncturist & Herbologist. I had researched different Chinese Herbologist and found Dr. Li in hopes of him helping by autoimmune problem, another story. He has done wonders for me so I tried to push Clay to see him, but being raised in a prescription drug only family he considered my doc. A " witch " doctor, but by this point he sat in the living room and said he that he could die and be fine with that because the pain would be gone. Friday, I received appt. information for the lung doc but the appt wouldn't be until 10- 29-04 I didn't know how Clay would be able to continue going. He came home from work early that Friday very ill and I offered one more time to go and see the " witch " doctor and he agreed!! I was on the phone immediately; I had an appt. the next morning Saturday 10-16-04 and went straight to the hospital to pick up all his records (quite a bundle have them right here in my lap). My dad went w/us to the doc the next morning, Dr. Li reviewed all of the records,labs,x- rays,etc. that I had brought w/us, did an allergy test on him, and looked Clay straight in the eyes and told him that he is allergic to formaldehyde and the pain he is experiencing is a spasm in his diaphragm. Dr. Li said that most folks have the common allergy symptoms, runny nose, itchy eyes, headaches and quite of people even have joint pain what western docs refer to as rheumatoid but Clay's was unusually being that his was in this diaphragm. Dr. Li then told Clay that he was going to give him some pain relief before the left. I know next to nothing about how acupuncture works but when the doc finished with Clay, he left the building with zero pain, first time in 6weeks and you don't know how bad Clay wanted to be able to look at me and say I told you so, he's a fake. As of today, Clay is still pain free and on zero prescription medication, he is on 3 different herb mixes and he is to take them for two weeks and then if he still is pain free then he can quite those. I don't know if you have ever heard about N.A.E.T. Nammbudripad's Allergy Elimination Techniques but I'm telling you if you or anyone you know have ANYKIND of allergy's its worth looking into. If you remember I mentioned that he was severely allergic to formaldehyde, after the allergy elimination treatment, formaldehyde is no longer a problem and will stay that way for the rest of his life. This doesn't treat the symptom's it fixes the problem. I am now one happy wife, I have my hubby back and yes he has mowed the lawn and is going riding today with the girls…. TaMara Hall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 TaMara- Thank you for sharing your story. I have one question. How did your husband come into contact with the for formaldehyde? Thanks, Dawn TaMara [advocare1210] Monday, October 25, 2004 10:07 AM Chinese Traditional Medicine [Chinese Traditional Medicine] TCM Success Story Afternoon all, I wanted to share what my husband, Clay, has gone through this summer in hopes that it could help someone else. Clay developed a pain in his mid-chest area in early May. It was a sharp stabbing pain that occurred once or twice a week, he didn't think anything about it, so being male he just ignored it. In June, he went to our Primary Care Physician (PCP) because of a pain in his left shoulder that had been there for 5-6 weeks and had not gotten any better and swelling in this feet and ankles. While there Clay happened to mention the chest pain that by this time was occurring 4- 5x a week. As any great PCP would have done the doc took the heart route, thus starting all the visits with two different Cardiologists, EKG's, chest x-rays, c.t. scan of his chest, thallium, stress test, & MRI's. They found nothing. Everything was perfect, textbook perfect and all the time the pain is getting worse. You would have to know Clay; he rides his mountain bike 5x a week for an hour a day, never misses a day (he had pneumonia and never missed a day) of work, loves to keep his yard mowed, and his kids are his life. By the first of Sept.1, he was coming home from work going to bed for a couple of hours getting up eating dinner, playing w/the girls from a chair or laying on the floor, then going back to bed for the night and the pain was continuous 24/7. After ruling out his heart, the PCP referred him to a GI doc, who scheduled an EGD. That procedure was scheduled on 10-4-04 Monday, the EGD and biopsy came back normal. That Saturday evening we were at this parent's house and the pain became so excruciating that his breathing was being affected. He said that when he exhaled his lungs felt as if that were " sticking together " and wouldn't feel back up w/air. After about 3 ½ hrs of this he agreed to go to the ER. I forgot to mention that the pain that he had in his chest also radiated over the left peck, or right under the left peck. After being in the ER a couple of hours and the entire tests redone (x-ray's, EKG's, blood work, etc,) the heart was again ruled out. After they also gave him some sort of cocktail that would numb his up GI track, all that area was also ruled out. HE STILL HAD THE PAIN that he went to the ER with. So they gave him Lortab and released him. He came home and chased bad guys in our house all night long, so it was safe to say that he didn't take that anymore, which was fine because it didn't take the pain away. By Monday he wasn't talking or communicating any more the pain was so intense. They admitted him to the hospital on 10-13-04 for intractable abdominal pain. While in the hospital he had two rounds of Demerol, it didn't take the pain away, and again another host of test ...CT abdomen, pelvis, blood workup, and US of his gallbladder. Found nothing, everything perfect. The doctor sat in Clay's room with me and his mom and said that he did not know at this point what to do that the only thing left was to be referred to a lung specialist. Clay has had several cases of pneumonia and Clay's grandma died of Wegner's granulomatosis, so with that and bag full of Ultracet we left the hospital. He was discharged 10-14-04 with no change in his condition. That was Thursday night, all this time I have been asking him to visit my doctor in Norman. Dr. Xiaohai Li is a NCCA Acupuncturist & Herbologist. I had researched different Chinese Herbologist and found Dr. Li in hopes of him helping by autoimmune problem, another story. He has done wonders for me so I tried to push Clay to see him, but being raised in a prescription drug only family he considered my doc. A " witch " doctor, but by this point he sat in the living room and said he that he could die and be fine with that because the pain would be gone. Friday, I received appt. information for the lung doc but the appt wouldn't be until 10- 29-04 I didn't know how Clay would be able to continue going. He came home from work early that Friday very ill and I offered one more time to go and see the " witch " doctor and he agreed!! I was on the phone immediately; I had an appt. the next morning Saturday 10-16-04 and went straight to the hospital to pick up all his records (quite a bundle have them right here in my lap). My dad went w/us to the doc the next morning, Dr. Li reviewed all of the records,labs,x- rays,etc. that I had brought w/us, did an allergy test on him, and looked Clay straight in the eyes and told him that he is allergic to formaldehyde and the pain he is experiencing is a spasm in his diaphragm. Dr. Li said that most folks have the common allergy symptoms, runny nose, itchy eyes, headaches and quite of people even have joint pain what western docs refer to as rheumatoid but Clay's was unusually being that his was in this diaphragm. Dr. Li then told Clay that he was going to give him some pain relief before the left. I know next to nothing about how acupuncture works but when the doc finished with Clay, he left the building with zero pain, first time in 6weeks and you don't know how bad Clay wanted to be able to look at me and say I told you so, he's a fake. As of today, Clay is still pain free and on zero prescription medication, he is on 3 different herb mixes and he is to take them for two weeks and then if he still is pain free then he can quite those. I don't know if you have ever heard about N.A.E.T. Nammbudripad's Allergy Elimination Techniques but I'm telling you if you or anyone you know have ANYKIND of allergy's its worth looking into. If you remember I mentioned that he was severely allergic to formaldehyde, after the allergy elimination treatment, formaldehyde is no longer a problem and will stay that way for the rest of his life. This doesn't treat the symptom's it fixes the problem. I am now one happy wife, I have my hubby back and yes he has mowed the lawn and is going riding today with the girls.... 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Guest guest Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 We were told (not by the doc. But by quite a few other individuals) that formaldehyde is in most everything around us in some fashion as a preservative. I have painted different rooms in my house every 4- 6months, but I buy my paint from Wal-Mart or Lowes and it is suppose to be non-toxic. Another possibility is my husband job, these symptoms started about 2months after he had started a new position around new machines, a new building, and he thinks that it is in a product that the machines use as a lubricant. Dr. Li said that if he still had pain that he could do an elimination treatment specific to what he is allergic too and that would entail taking samples of everything that could possibly be a cause: paint and air sample from our house, air and samples from his work, samples of the candles I make, but it seems that will not be necessary. How did your husband come into contact with the formaldehyde? > > Thanks, > > Dawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2004 Report Share Posted November 5, 2004 There are many wonderful energetic techinques out there for allergies, mcs and pain conditions. Naet being one of them.Also a fantastic system called NMT: The Feinberg Technique. I have been practicing both for a while now. Fantastic tools for any acupuncturist. Congradulations on your husbands recovery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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