Guest guest Posted October 1, 2004 Report Share Posted October 1, 2004 Hello, I hold an herbal recipe from my Martial Arts that is known to help re-balance and heal. For instance, if I overstrain or overstress a muscle I am told to apply this to the area is a spraying manner, then thoroughly rub it in. It seems to work nicely, but I have heard of placebos and really just want to make sure. The ingredients are: Distilled Water, Clematis Root, Mugwort Leaf, Tang- Kuei, Notoginseng, Mentha, Achyranthes Root, Mulberry Bark, Hoelen, Sophora Root, Vinegar, Japanese Teasel Root, Sausserea Root, Other Herbal Extracts, Grapefruit Extract, Natural Fragrances. (Verbatim) I would be overjoyed if someone holds enough expertise to put in thier two cents and tell me what they think. Thanks Alot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2004 Report Share Posted October 2, 2004 --- alejandro69247 <alejandro69247 wrote: > ingredients are: Distilled Water, Clematis Root, > Mugwort Leaf, Tang- > Kuei, Notoginseng, Mentha, Achyranthes Root, > Mulberry Bark, Hoelen, > Sophora Root, Vinegar, Japanese Teasel Root, > Sausserea Root, Other > Herbal Extracts, Grapefruit Extract, Natural > Fragrances. (Verbatim) I like the natural fragrances part. It all looks pretty standard and I would expect it to work well. No big mystery. Hugo _________ALL-NEW Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2004 Report Share Posted October 2, 2004 > Hello, I hold an herbal recipe from my Martial Arts that is known to > help re-balance and heal. For instance, if I overstrain or > overstress a muscle I am told to apply this to the area is a > spraying manner, then thoroughly rub it in. It seems to work nicely, > but I have heard of placebos and really just want to make sure. Hi, and welcome to Chinese Traditional Medicine. The important thing in TCM is rather or not YOU are experiencing help from the item. TCM healers respect and rely upon input from clients to a degree rarely seen in Western medicine. Personally, I think the placebo effect is overrated and used to keep from having to dig deeper. The only people I know who are prone to placebo effects are people with hysteria (aka conversion reaction). They do tend to be very suggestable. What often happens is something I call a pseudo-placebo effect. It works like this. Often, about the same time the person is motivated to see a doctor for a prescription or take part in a drug test, the person also is motivated to make some changes in his or her life. Like a change in diet, like starting an exercise program, like starting on vitamins and minerals and other supplements, etc. Even though the person got the placebo, there really has been a change for the better but the change is coming from the diet change, the exercise, the supplements, etc. Instead of digging deeper and discovering that something is having an impact, the improvement is chalked up to a placebo effect when it's not really. I'm not an expert on TCM formulas. Hopefully someone on here will recognize the formula (or the base formula). Do you know the name of the formula? Either its English name or Chinese pinyin name? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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