Guest guest Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 Hi I am a medical doctor in western medicine and I am studying chinese medicine in Southern California University now. I wanted to know if any of you have any useful information about what chinese medicine can do in Immune System Disorders. If any of you had a good experience with acupuncture points or herbs for improving the immune system function and specially in HSV type II patients I ll be glad if you share it with me. I know a patient who suffers from this disease and he has the outbreaks time to time. Actually western medicine cant help well but I think there should be some helpful herbs and also acupuncture points which help a lot and they are not harmful. Wish you all best luck Dr. Marjaneh Shirazi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2004 Report Share Posted August 12, 2004 > I am a medical doctor in western medicine and I am studying chinese medicine in Southern California University now. > I wanted to know if any of you have any useful information about what chinese medicine can do in Immune System Disorders. If any of you had a good experience with acupuncture points or herbs for improving the immune system function and specially in HSV type II patients I ll be glad if you share it with me. Welcome to Chinese Traditional Medicine. I don't know how extensive your background is in TCM, but the TCM concept of the Kidneys contains not only the functions of the kidneys but also the adreanal glands. Some writers consider the Kidneys to include the functions of all endocrine glands in the body, but I'm not prepared to go that far yet. Many functions of the adrenal glands are functions assigned to the Kidneys in TCM. In TCM, what gets diagnosed and treated are TCM imbalances, not Western-defined medical conditions. For this reason, I strongly recommend being able to diagnose and treat from a TCM perspective. The same Western-defined medical condition can have one or more of several TCM Roots underlying it. Asthma is a good example. Because the underlying TCM imbalances are different, what helps one asthmatic may do nothing for a second and may even hurt a third. There is a saying: Same disease, different treatments; different diseases, same treatment. In the case of the former, even though the disease is the same, the underlying imbalances are different. In the case of the latter, even though the diseases are different, the underlying imbalance is the same for all the sufferers. However, there most definitely is a place for understanding the intersections between TCM and Western medicine. A lot of this study is being carried out in China. You might contact Bob Flaws at Blue Poppy Press as Flaws reads medical Chinese and is up on much of the current research out of China. I also recommend an article by Michael Tierra, OMD, on how the TCM concept of the Kidneys relates to the adrenal glands. I'll forward the article in. It's lengthy and a little technical in spots, but it should be fairly easy reading for you since you also have the background in Western medicine. (It's a bit harder reading for folks who aren't familiar with some of the terms and diagnostic tests in Western medicine.) One of the first things to suspect in cases of Immune System disorders is possible Kidney involvement (because the concept of the Kidneys contains many of the functions of the adrenal glands). If there is Kidney imbalance, some of the other signs and symptoms of Kidney imbalance also will be present. These include but are not limited to: Sore and aching back (especially the lower back), sore and weak knees, changes in urination, changes in sex drive, bone disorders, problems with the teeth, and problems with the ears and/or hearing. You'll be surprised how often people with Kidney imbalance also will have current problems with or a history of problems with the ears and hearing. In TCM, the Kidneys are said to " open into the ears " . These are the general symptoms of some kind of Kidney imbalance. Further information will zero in on what the particular Kidney imbalance is. For example, excessive sex drive points to possible Kidney Yin Deficiency. Loss of libido points to possible Kidney Yang Deficiency. Infrequent urination with concentrated, dark urine, possible Kidney Yin Deficiency. Excessive urination of large amounts of pale urine, possible Kidney Yang Deficiency. Incontinence, possible Kidney (and Bladder) Qi Deficiency. Developmental problems, possible Kidney Jing Deficiency. Etc. It's a good idea to learn the general signs and symptoms of the particular Organs. For example, if the digestion is affected, suspect and rule in or rule out Spleen imbalance. Problems with the eyes and/or vision, excessive anger, and feelings of " blockage " ? Possible Liver imbalance. Problems with breathing, the skin, the sense of smell, and with " letting go " ? Suspect possible Lung imbalance. (Though some Spleen problems also can interfere with the sense of smell because the sense of taste can be affected in Spleen Deficiency.) Something that surprises most people seeing a TCM healer for the first time is that the TCM healer won't accept a Western diagnosis. The healer will ask the client to describe what that means (even if the healer also is trained and licensed in Western medicine). The intensity of certain symptoms can vary from person to person with the same disease. Not only that but symptoms can vary. People don't always manifest all the possible symptoms of a particular condition. In addition, the individual may have symptoms that have nothing to do with the particular Western-defined medical condition and which are irrelevant to it but are very relevant to the particular TCM imbalance(s). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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