Guest guest Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 Hi, I posted several days ago about hyperhidrosis and no one has responded. Is it because no one knows or no one cares or both? A response would be nice even if it is to just say that you don't know. I have excessively sweaty hands and feet and would like to know if anyone knows of a certain herb that might stop the sweating? Thanks again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 I reviewed " pubmed " the National Library of Medicine for hyperhidrosis. There are hundreds of studies listed on this site related to this disorder. The two primary treatments both may be somewhat radical. The first is treatment, recently approved for use in the USA. That is treatment with botulism toxin. The second is a surgical tratment with possible serious side effects. Please visit pubmed. Thx, Earl --- khriperz <pretee wrote: > Hi, I posted several days ago about hyperhidrosis > and no one has > responded. Is it because no one knows or no one > cares or both? A > response would be nice even if it is to just say > that you don't > know. I have excessively sweaty hands and feet and > would like to > know if anyone knows of a certain herb that might > stop the sweating? > > Thanks again > > ===== Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 Sorry to be so late replying. I did a Google for " hyperhidrosis Chinese medicine " and found the following. I'm not a clinical practitioner. All I do is explain the basics of TCM and try to explain some of the unfamiliar terms. " Xu " means Deficiency. Deficiency imbalances are caused by there not being enough of something the person needs. Excess conditions are caused by there being too much of something. Both Deficiency and Excess can exist at the same time. The yangming (bright yang) meridians are the Stomach and Large Intestine. Yangming also refers to a stage of feverish diseases. Sometimes a disease may be " cured " or has run its course from a Western standpoint but not from a TCM standpoint. It is possible for a person to become " stuck " in one of the 6 stages of Cold-Induced Illnesses. Did the yperhidrosis start following an illness? Or, did it develop gradually? Or, have you always had it? The time of day also is important in analyzing in TCM. Do you sweat throughout the day or just at night? Throughout the day suggests Qi Deficiency while night sweats suggests Yin Deficiency. (Since some of the list members are new to TCM, I go into some basic detail. Qi, pronounced " chee " is roughly though inadequately translated as " energy " . Yin cools, calms, and moistens the body. There are 12 main meridians. Some of the abbreviations are as follows: KID, Kidney. SP, Spleen. ST, Stomach. P, Pericardium. BL, Bladder. L.I., Large Intestine. The following is from forums. It's at a professional level. If you're interested in learning more, I'll post some of the symptoms and signs of the 3 imbalances to give you a better idea of what the underlying TCM imbalance may be. (If it is a TCM imbalance in this particular case.) It's best to see a trained TCM healer, but this isn't always possible depending on where one lives. Is there any eczema? http://gancao.net/cgi-bin/ib3/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=2;t=443;st=0 Sweating from the hands and feet is described in Concise Exposition on Exogenous Febrile Diseases (1156 AD): " The Stomach dominates the four limbs. Sweating from the hands and feet is a sign of Yangming syndrome " . All the syndromes described involve disharmony of the Spleen and Stomach. Yangming Fu organ syndrome with accumulation of dry faeces in the Large Intestine is not discussed, however, since sweating from the hands and feet is not a key sign of this syndrome. Differentiation Damp-heat in the Spleen and Stomach Suggested formula: modified Lian Po Yin and Wei Ling Tang. Suggested acupuncture points: Taibai SP-3, Pishu BL-20, Sanyinjiao SP-6, Yinlingquan SP-9, Laogong P-8, Jiexi ST-41. Spleen and Stomach Qi Xu The recommended formula is modified Shen Ling Bai Zhu San. Suggested acupuncture points: Zusanli ST-36, Jiexi ST-41, Hegu L.I.-4, Zhongwan REN-12, Taibai SP-3, Pishu BL-20. Spleen and Stomach Yin Xu Formula: modified Sha Shen Mai Dong Tang. Suggested acupuncture points: Laogong P-8, Yongquan KID-1, Zhongwan REN-12, Youmen KID-21, Lianquan REN-23, Zusanli ST-36. Note: Sweating from the hands and feet most commonly manifests as a Xu syndrome. In prolonged cases both Qi and blood become deficient and the treatment principle is therefore to tonify both Qi and blood. Chinese Traditional Medicine , " khriperz " <pretee@t...> wrote: > Hi, I posted several days ago about hyperhidrosis and no one has > responded. Is it because no one knows or no one cares or both? A > response would be nice even if it is to just say that you don't > know. I have excessively sweaty hands and feet and would like to > know if anyone knows of a certain herb that might stop the sweating? > > Thanks again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 Okay, excuse my ignorance, but I have no idea what exactly you are talking about. I am very new to the chinese healing process and am very confused about what Xi and Ying is, but I'm willing to learn if it will help me relax and recover. Basic details of my Palmar Hyperdidrosis: -Don't remember not having it -Became noticeable to me when I was 11 years old -Excessive sweating of feet and hands if I thought about it or was nervous or was excited -Now feet and hands sweat without my knowledge, meaning an emotion doesn't trigger them they just perspire on their own throughout the day, especially in hot weather -I currently smoke cigarettes, but that's not the cause because I perspired excessively before I was 16(age I started smoking), though I'm more than certain that they don't help -Currently down to a cigarette or two a day -I don't want the ETS surgery and I will not get the botox injections as I feel there's a natural cure for this, I just have to keep looking That's all I can think of for now, but I heard that chinese acupuncture and chinese herbs have worked for a small group of hyperhidrosis sufferers(I say small group because many hyperhidrosis sufferers don't believe that natural remedies work, only chemical remedies, which I can't blame them for thinking as not many are cured even with chemicals). Any suggestions on herbs to try?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 Try Astragalus khriperz <pretee wrote:Okay, excuse my ignorance, but I have no idea what exactly you are talking about. I am very new to the chinese healing process and am very confused about what Xi and Ying is, but I'm willing to learn if it will help me relax and recover. Basic details of my Palmar Hyperdidrosis: -Don't remember not having it -Became noticeable to me when I was 11 years old -Excessive sweating of feet and hands if I thought about it or was nervous or was excited -Now feet and hands sweat without my knowledge, meaning an emotion doesn't trigger them they just perspire on their own throughout the day, especially in hot weather -I currently smoke cigarettes, but that's not the cause because I perspired excessively before I was 16(age I started smoking), though I'm more than certain that they don't help -Currently down to a cigarette or two a day -I don't want the ETS surgery and I will not get the botox injections as I feel there's a natural cure for this, I just have to keep looking That's all I can think of for now, but I heard that chinese acupuncture and chinese herbs have worked for a small group of hyperhidrosis sufferers(I say small group because many hyperhidrosis sufferers don't believe that natural remedies work, only chemical remedies, which I can't blame them for thinking as not many are cured even with chemicals). Any suggestions on herbs to try?! Post message: Chinese Traditional Medicine Subscribe: Chinese Traditional Medicine- Un: Chinese Traditional Medicine- List owner: Chinese Traditional Medicine-owner Shortcut URL to this page: /community/Chinese Traditional Medicine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 This list was started to help people such as yourself to understand the basics of TCM. I started it because I got help with TCM that I never thought I would get. The concepts of TCM are very different from those of Western allopathic medicine. They are going to sound strange at first because they are so different. But stick with it, and it will start to make sense. You already know that others with hyperdidrosis have been helped with TCM. One of the central ideas in Chinese medicine is that of Qi, pronounced " chee " , roughly though inadequately translated as " energy " . Qi flows throughout the body via pathways called meridians or channels. There are points called acupoints where Qi flow can be influenced. That's what acupuncturists and acupressurists do. They influence the flow of Qi via acupoints. (You may be able to help yourself with acupressure that you do on yourself at home once you learn the basics.) Two other main concepts in TCM are those of Yin and Yang. Yin cools, calms, and moistens the body. Yang heats, activates, and dries the body. The two constantly wax and wane according to various factors. For example, Yin predominates at night in a healthy person because this is the time when most people sleep and they need to be calm. Which is one of the functions of Yin. Yang predominates during the day when most people are active. Yang activates the body. Two of the most common causes of excessive sweating are Deficient Qi and Deficient Yin. (Deficient Yang can cause it too, but this generally is not as common as Qi Deficiency and Yang Deficiency.) When excessive sweating is due to Qi Deficiency, one supplements Qi with Qi tonic herbs. When excessive sweating is due to Yin Deficiency, one adds Yin to the body with Yin tonic herbs. (This is a highly simplified explanation, but it will do for now. Actually, other things may be needed as well.) The physiology behind these two causes of sweating are different. Lung Qi controls the opening and closing of the pores. When Lung Qi is Deficient, there is not enough of it to keep the pores closed. (Actually Qi Deficiency can be associated with what I call various " leaks " in the body. Bladder Qi Deficiency can result in incontinence. Spleen Qi Deficiency can result in excessive bleeding. Etc. In addition into supplementing Qi with Qi tonic herbs, one usually has to use one of the astringent herbs which will help to keep pores closed.) In the case of Yin Deficiency, the mechanism is a build-up of Heat. Remember, one of the functions of Yin is that it cools the body. When there is insufficient Yin, Heat develops because the body is not being cooled properly. The proper term for this type of Heat is Deficiency Heat. It's developing because there is a Deficiency of the Yin which cools the body. The body sweats to relieve the build- up of Heat. (There also is Excess Heat. This is Heat which is present because there is too much of something that is warming. For example, the temperatures outside are too hot (think heat stroke or heat exhaustion), or the person is consuming too many foods or herbs which add heat to the body.) Not all cases of hyperdidrosis have the same Root (underlying TCM imbalance). What helps one sufferer may do nothing for a second and may even make a third person worse. This is very common in TCM because there rarely is an exact correspondence between TCM imbalances and Western-defined medical conditions. Different TCM imbalances can underlie the same Western-defined condition. What TCM treats are TCM imbalances, not Western-defined medical conditions. This is why I'm being so careful to give the possible underlying TCM imbalances of what the West calls hyperdidrosis. If you treated for Qi Deficiency, and the Root in your case was Yin Deficiency, part of the treatment for Qi Deficiency could aggravate the Yin Deficiency. (To be continued) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 Dear khriperz, If you are new to , then it is probably not worth treating yourself - you may unwittingly make the symptoms worse or create new symptoms that were not there before. Probably the best advice would be to go to a qualified practitioner of who will look at the full history and condition of your hyperhidrosis and make a full diagnosis. Getting professional advice and learning at the same time will definitely help you on the long road to healing. Good luck, Caroline Chinese Traditional Medicine , " khriperz " <pretee@t...> wrote: I am very new to the chinese healing process and am very confused about what Xi and Ying is, but I'm willing to learn if it will help me relax and recover. Any suggestions on herbs to try?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 Hi, I've looked through the various responses to your post and there is some extremely valuable information being offered here. The art of Chinese medicine requires observation of the whole person. Diagnosing an issue over the web or in any similar medium is nearly impossible. Somebody in this thread mentioned that you should seek the advice of a qualified practioner and I agree wholeheartedly. If cost is an issue look for a TCM college nearby. Most colleges have a clinic that offer treatment at greatly reduced rates, or perhaps even free. I currently attend such a college and two of the three clinics being run by the school offer free treatment. Who knows, if you're interested you may find yourself attending a few classes yourself someday . . . Tim Chinese Traditional Medicine , " khriperz " <pretee@t...> wrote: > Okay, excuse my ignorance, but I have no idea what exactly you are > talking about. I am very new to the chinese healing process and am > very confused about what Xi and Ying is, but I'm willing to learn if > it will help me relax and recover. > > Basic details of my Palmar Hyperdidrosis: > -Don't remember not having it > -Became noticeable to me when I was 11 years old > -Excessive sweating of feet and hands if I thought about it or was > nervous or was excited > -Now feet and hands sweat without my knowledge, meaning an emotion > doesn't trigger them they just perspire on their own throughout the > day, especially in hot weather > -I currently smoke cigarettes, but that's not the cause because I > perspired excessively before I was 16(age I started smoking), though > I'm more than certain that they don't help > -Currently down to a cigarette or two a day > -I don't want the ETS surgery and I will not get the botox > injections as I feel there's a natural cure for this, I just have to > keep looking > > > That's all I can think of for now, but I heard that chinese > acupuncture and chinese herbs have worked for a small group of > hyperhidrosis sufferers(I say small group because many hyperhidrosis > sufferers don't believe that natural remedies work, only chemical > remedies, which I can't blame them for thinking as not many are > cured even with chemicals). Any suggestions on herbs to try?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 Continued from previous post: TCM analyzes and treats TCM imbalances, not Western-defined medical conditions. TCM imbalances rarely have a one-to-one correspondence to Western-defined medical conditions. Several people can have the same Western-defined medical condition but the underlying TCM imbalance(s) may be different for each of them. The disease may be the same but the treatments will need to be different because the Roots (underlying imbalances) are different). For this reason it's best to consult a trained TCM healer in your area if there is one. But, there are no TCM healers in many areas of Western countries. Sometimes the only route for any relief is for one to learn all one can and VERY CAUTIOUSLY try some things. It's been my experience that people can learn all kinds of things when there is a strong need to know. Few things create a strong need to know like being sick for years. Some people just like to know something about TCM before seeing a TCM healer. If there are acupuncturists in your area, check to see if they have adequate TCM training and use it. Not all acupuncturists do. Some are trained more in the French energetics style of acupuncture than in TCM. While most people can get very good results with the energetics style of acupuncture, being able to recogonize and treat TCM imbalances adds considerably to healing skills. From the time you walk in the door a TCM healer will be observing various things about you and analying so that a correct diagnosis can be arrived at. TCM diagnoses also include a pulse diagnosis and a tongue diagnosis. Plus, the healer may ask you a lot of questions. TCM is very geared toward identifying and treating causes (underlying imbalances) instead of merely treating symptoms. A particular imbalance can manifest in a variety of ways. If just symptoms are treated, the symptoms may clear up (at least temporarily), but the underlying imbalance keeps getting worse and worse and manifesting in more ways. Another major difference between Western medicine and TCM is that TCM healers will try to identify ALL the imbalances the client has, and treat them all at the same time (when possible). Otherwise, treatment for one imbalance could worsen another imbalance. In a future post I will be going into the symptoms of some of the TCM imbalances that can underlie hyperdidrosis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2004 Report Share Posted July 29, 2004 Any recommendations for tonics that I can make and take? Also, how do I do acupressure at home? Chinese Traditional Medicine , " victoria_dragon " <victoria_dragon> wrote: > This list was started to help people such as yourself to understand > the basics of TCM. I started it because I got help with TCM that I > never thought I would get. > > The concepts of TCM are very different from those of Western > allopathic medicine. They are going to sound strange at first > because they are so different. But stick with it, and it will start > to make sense. You already know that others with hyperdidrosis have > been helped with TCM. > > One of the central ideas in Chinese medicine is that of Qi, > pronounced " chee " , roughly though inadequately translated > as " energy " . > > Qi flows throughout the body via pathways called meridians or > channels. There are points called acupoints where Qi flow can be > influenced. That's what acupuncturists and acupressurists do. They > influence the flow of Qi via acupoints. (You may be able to help > yourself with acupressure that you do on yourself at home once you > learn the basics.) > > Two other main concepts in TCM are those of Yin and Yang. Yin cools, > calms, and moistens the body. Yang heats, activates, and dries the > body. The two constantly wax and wane according to various factors. > For example, Yin predominates at night in a healthy person because > this is the time when most people sleep and they need to be calm. > Which is one of the functions of Yin. Yang predominates during the > day when most people are active. Yang activates the body. > > Two of the most common causes of excessive sweating are Deficient Qi > and Deficient Yin. (Deficient Yang can cause it too, but this > generally is not as common as Qi Deficiency and Yang Deficiency.) > When excessive sweating is due to Qi Deficiency, one supplements Qi > with Qi tonic herbs. When excessive sweating is due to Yin > Deficiency, one adds Yin to the body with Yin tonic herbs. (This is > a highly simplified explanation, but it will do for now. Actually, > other things may be needed as well.) > > The physiology behind these two causes of sweating are different. > Lung Qi controls the opening and closing of the pores. When Lung Qi > is Deficient, there is not enough of it to keep the pores closed. > (Actually Qi Deficiency can be associated with what I call > various " leaks " in the body. Bladder Qi Deficiency can result in > incontinence. Spleen Qi Deficiency can result in excessive > bleeding. Etc. In addition into supplementing Qi with Qi tonic > herbs, one usually has to use one of the astringent herbs which will > help to keep pores closed.) > > In the case of Yin Deficiency, the mechanism is a build-up of Heat. > Remember, one of the functions of Yin is that it cools the body. > When there is insufficient Yin, Heat develops because the body is > not being cooled properly. The proper term for this type of Heat is > Deficiency Heat. It's developing because there is a Deficiency of > the Yin which cools the body. The body sweats to relieve the build- > up of Heat. (There also is Excess Heat. This is Heat which is > present because there is too much of something that is warming. For > example, the temperatures outside are too hot (think heat stroke or > heat exhaustion), or the person is consuming too many foods or herbs > which add heat to the body.) > > Not all cases of hyperdidrosis have the same Root (underlying TCM > imbalance). What helps one sufferer may do nothing for a second and > may even make a third person worse. This is very common in TCM > because there rarely is an exact correspondence between TCM > imbalances and Western-defined medical conditions. Different TCM > imbalances can underlie the same Western-defined condition. What TCM > treats are TCM imbalances, not Western-defined medical conditions. > This is why I'm being so careful to give the possible underlying TCM > imbalances of what the West calls hyperdidrosis. If you treated for > Qi Deficiency, and the Root in your case was Yin Deficiency, part of > the treatment for Qi Deficiency could aggravate the Yin Deficiency. > > (To be continued) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2004 Report Share Posted July 29, 2004 Maybe and then maybe not? Licenses are not always needed. At the moment I have no allergic reactions to anything that could cause death to me so I figure I'll try it on my own since the doctors that I've seen in the past have done nothing to help my condition, but offer botox and a very dangerous surgery that doesn't prevent compensatory sweating(sweating in a different area than the area treated-the sweats gotta go somewhere). Both of those recommendations are simply cover-ups for a major problem. They don't actually cure they just off-set if temporarily. I just need some organic advice and then I'll compare and contrast. Chinese Traditional Medicine , " c_bertorelli " <c_bertorelli> wrote: > Dear khriperz, > > If you are new to , then it is probably not worth > treating yourself - you may unwittingly make the symptoms worse or > create new symptoms that were not there before. > > Probably the best advice would be to go to a qualified practitioner > of who will look at the full history and condition > of your hyperhidrosis and make a full diagnosis. Getting professional > advice and learning at the same time will definitely help you on the > long road to healing. > > Good luck, > Caroline > > > Chinese Traditional Medicine , " khriperz " <pretee@t...> wrote: > I am very new to the chinese healing process and am very confused > about what Xi and Ying is, but I'm willing to learn if it will help > me relax and recover. > > Any suggestions on herbs to try?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2004 Report Share Posted July 30, 2004 What folks are trying to tell you is that they can't just blanket prescribe a general herb to cover your symptoms. They have to know the root cause. In Chinese medicine, it depends on what type you are. The same symptoms are treated differently depending on your type. For instance, I am cold and damp...mainly. In some meridians/organs, I am hot. For a cold, my husband and I would take entirely different herbs. His could make my symptoms worse. Michelle - khriperz Chinese Traditional Medicine Thursday, July 29, 2004 3:07 PM [Chinese Traditional Medicine] Re: A little Advice Would be Nice... Any recommendations for tonics that I can make and take? Also, how do I do acupressure at home? Chinese Traditional Medicine , " victoria_dragon " <victoria_dragon> wrote: > This list was started to help people such as yourself to understand > the basics of TCM. I started it because I got help with TCM that I > never thought I would get. > > The concepts of TCM are very different from those of Western > allopathic medicine. They are going to sound strange at first > because they are so different. But stick with it, and it will start > to make sense. You already know that others with hyperdidrosis have > been helped with TCM. > > One of the central ideas in Chinese medicine is that of Qi, > pronounced " chee " , roughly though inadequately translated > as " energy " . > > Qi flows throughout the body via pathways called meridians or > channels. There are points called acupoints where Qi flow can be > influenced. That's what acupuncturists and acupressurists do. They > influence the flow of Qi via acupoints. (You may be able to help > yourself with acupressure that you do on yourself at home once you > learn the basics.) > > Two other main concepts in TCM are those of Yin and Yang. Yin cools, > calms, and moistens the body. Yang heats, activates, and dries the > body. The two constantly wax and wane according to various factors. > For example, Yin predominates at night in a healthy person because > this is the time when most people sleep and they need to be calm. > Which is one of the functions of Yin. Yang predominates during the > day when most people are active. Yang activates the body. > > Two of the most common causes of excessive sweating are Deficient Qi > and Deficient Yin. (Deficient Yang can cause it too, but this > generally is not as common as Qi Deficiency and Yang Deficiency.) > When excessive sweating is due to Qi Deficiency, one supplements Qi > with Qi tonic herbs. When excessive sweating is due to Yin > Deficiency, one adds Yin to the body with Yin tonic herbs. (This is > a highly simplified explanation, but it will do for now. Actually, > other things may be needed as well.) > > The physiology behind these two causes of sweating are different. > Lung Qi controls the opening and closing of the pores. When Lung Qi > is Deficient, there is not enough of it to keep the pores closed. > (Actually Qi Deficiency can be associated with what I call > various " leaks " in the body. Bladder Qi Deficiency can result in > incontinence. Spleen Qi Deficiency can result in excessive > bleeding. Etc. In addition into supplementing Qi with Qi tonic > herbs, one usually has to use one of the astringent herbs which will > help to keep pores closed.) > > In the case of Yin Deficiency, the mechanism is a build-up of Heat. > Remember, one of the functions of Yin is that it cools the body. > When there is insufficient Yin, Heat develops because the body is > not being cooled properly. The proper term for this type of Heat is > Deficiency Heat. It's developing because there is a Deficiency of > the Yin which cools the body. The body sweats to relieve the build- > up of Heat. (There also is Excess Heat. This is Heat which is > present because there is too much of something that is warming. For > example, the temperatures outside are too hot (think heat stroke or > heat exhaustion), or the person is consuming too many foods or herbs > which add heat to the body.) > > Not all cases of hyperdidrosis have the same Root (underlying TCM > imbalance). What helps one sufferer may do nothing for a second and > may even make a third person worse. This is very common in TCM > because there rarely is an exact correspondence between TCM > imbalances and Western-defined medical conditions. Different TCM > imbalances can underlie the same Western-defined condition. What TCM > treats are TCM imbalances, not Western-defined medical conditions. > This is why I'm being so careful to give the possible underlying TCM > imbalances of what the West calls hyperdidrosis. If you treated for > Qi Deficiency, and the Root in your case was Yin Deficiency, part of > the treatment for Qi Deficiency could aggravate the Yin Deficiency. > > (To be continued) Post message: Chinese Traditional Medicine Subscribe: Chinese Traditional Medicine- Un: Chinese Traditional Medicine- List owner: Chinese Traditional Medicine-owner Shortcut URL to this page: /community/Chinese Traditional Medicine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2004 Report Share Posted July 30, 2004 > Maybe and then maybe not? Licenses are not always needed. At the > moment I have no allergic reactions to anything that could cause > death to me Being concerned about the possibility of allergies isn't the only thing that healers need to consider. For example, is the person too Hot or too Cold? All herbs (and foods and prescription drugs) have a thermal energy. They will either cool the body, have no effect on the body, or warm the body. If you add heat to someone who already is too hot, you make that person sicker. If you add cold to a person who already is too cold, you make that person sicker. At this point we have no idea if you're suffering from a Heat or a Cold problem. Considering Heat/Cold is one of the most far-reaching things a healer can do. There are some cases where ignoring the Heat/Cold thing can kill a person. I don't think this would happen in your case, BUT ignoring it could make you a lot sicker. If there is a TCM healer in your area, I thoroughly recommend seeing him or her. Otherwise, you're going to need to learn the basics of TCM before you can begin to make an educated guess on what would help. I need to go to town today, but I will be posting symptoms of some of the various TCM imbalances so you can begin to get a handle on what the possible imbalance(s) may be. What you're going to find is that once the Root of the sweating is identified and treated, a lot more is going to clear up than just the sweats. Things that you may not realize are coming from the same Root as the sweats. I know it's hard to have to wade through a lot of unfamiliar information. That's why I strongly suggest seeing a TCM healer if there is one in your area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2004 Report Share Posted July 30, 2004 When a person has been sick for some time, check for something called Qi Stagnation and rule in or rule out. Qi, pronounced " chee " , is roughly translated (though inadequately) as " energy " . Qi flows throughout the body along pathways called meridians. Qi flow is supposed to be smooth. But sometimes, due to various reasons, Qi will not flow smoothly. It may even become blocked. This is called Qi Stagnation. The Organ which has the most influence over rather or not Qi flows smoothly is the Liver. Note the capital " L " as the TCM Liver is not equivalent to the anatomical liver. TCM Organs are collections of functions. Each Organ is particularly vulnerable to one or more emotions. For the Liver it's anger and frustration. Few things are more frustrating than being sick for a long time. Especially when healers have offered inadequate help. The TCM understanding of the mind-body (-emotions-spirit) connection is a lot more sophisticated than that of the West. For one thing, it's very much a two-way street. What this mean is that once the Liver becomes imbalanced from whatever cause - be it poorly processed anger, a bacteria, a virus, a toxin, trauma to the liver, etc. - the person is more prone to feel anger and frustration than s/he was before. It's a snowballing situation. Being more prone to feel anger and frustration means that the Liver becomes even more unbalanced which in turn makes the person even more prone to anger and frustration and so on. Why am I bringing this up on this particular thread? Because Qi Deficiency is one of the possible Roots of excessive sweating. If Qi Stagnation also is present and one supplements Qi without also taking care of the Qi Stagnation, it's like trying to force more water into a blocked hose. The water is not going to flow to where it's needed because of the block - no matter how much water you pump in - plus you run the risk of bursting the hose if water pressure builds up too much. Every problem the person has due to Qi Stagnation is going to become worse plus some new ones probably will develop if Qi Stagnation also is present and one doesn't treat the Qi Stagnation at the same time one treats the Qi Deficiency. There are herbs which will get Qi moving. Qi Gong/ Tai Ch'i exercises also will help Qi (and Blood) to move. BTW, I highly recommend Qi Gong / Tai Ch'i exercises as an aid to good health. They look deceptively simple, but they can be very powerful. " No pain, no gain " is NOT a part of the Chinese mentality. At least not routinely. So far the posts I have made on this thread have been off the top of my head. When I start going into the signs and symptoms of possible Roots, I will be consulting books for these. Hopefully I can get to the research soon. I want to be more thorough than I would be doing it off the top of my head as people new to TCM will be using the info. I don't want to risk leaving something out that may be a key symptom for a reader. If something sounds like it fits, please do further research on it to rule it in or out. And when we get to the treatment part, PLEASE pay a lot of attention to the contraindications. You'll need to know how to deal with possible contraindications. Remember, in TCM ALL imbalances are treated at the same time if possible in order that treatment for one imbalance won't aggravate another. BTW, TCM formulas very rarely consist of only one herb. For that matter it's fairly rare for formulas to consist of only two herbs. There usually are several. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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