Digest Number 1146

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Chinese Traditional Medicine wrote:

 

 

> Message: 1

> Tue, 13 Jul 2004 01:18:24 -0000

> " Earl McAfee " <earlmcafee

> American Heart Assoc. lowers Cholesterol targets

>

> The American Heart Association just lowered its target for LDL

> Cho;esterol. he new guidelines for adults at risk are advised to

> lower their LDL to 70 from 100.

>

> This may impact millions of people. What Chinese herbs may be

> effective ?

 

Perhaps you'd like to research the cholesterol

conroversy before you embark on this journey?

 

For this this is a strange move for them when

critics are claiming cholesterol is near useless

as an indicator of potential heart disease....

 

Homocystiene is the new star in that game...

 

Chris

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> Wed, 14 Jul 2004 00:55:56 -0000

> " victoria_dragon " <victoria_dragon

> Re: Chinese Herbal Formula Decreases Blood Glucose & Insulin Levels

 

> The

> concept of Hot and Cold is one of the most important in TCM.

 

Okay, I have a question about this.....

 

I'm aware that one of the body's natural defensive

reactions when being invaded by a virus or

bacteria(?) is to raise it's temperature. We know

this as a fever. The higher temperature works to

eradicate the invader.

 

How does a " cooling " herb help in this regard. I

would think that it would be deterimental in this

case?

 

 

Chris

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> I'm aware that one of the body's natural defensive

> reactions when being invaded by a virus or

> bacteria(?) is to raise it's temperature. We know

> this as a fever. The higher temperature works to

> eradicate the invader.

>

> How does a " cooling " herb help in this regard. I

> would think that it would be deterimental in this

> case?

 

The TCM guidelines for doctors also trained in Western allopathic

medicine for using antibiotics is that they are used only in cases

of Excess Heat (and of course for bacteria as they are useless on

viruses). Doctors also are careful about using them if Qi and Yang

Deficiency are present as the thermal energy of most antibiotics and

antibiotic-like herbs are Cold, and they disperse Qi.

 

The TCM models of what happens in febrile illnesses (or what the

West identifies as infections by bacteria or viruses) is very

different from the Western perspective. The TCM models concentrate

on a progression of symptoms.

 

One of these models (and the one I'll be talking about) is called

the 6 Stages of Cold-Induced Illnesses. Treatment is different for

different stages.

 

When Pernicious Evils (Cold, Wind, Heat, Dampness, and Dryness)

invade the body, they follow a sequence, first invading meridians

and then Organs, progressively going " deeper " . There is a sequence

of meridians, and the Lungs often are the first Organ affected. The

sequence of meridians also describes a sequence of stages that many

infectious diseases (like the common cold, the flu, etc.) will

follow. From a joint TCM-Western allopathic perspective, what is

happening is that invasion by Pernicious Evils is causing the person

to be more vulnerable to any bacterias and viruses in the

environment or within the person. (Triggering changes in physiology

that make the person more vulnerable.)

 

The first 3 stages are Yang stages, and are characterized by Heat

and fever. The last 3 stages are Yin stages, and the temperature

may be normal or even below normal. If the illness has progressed

to the Yin stages, the person has become sicker.

 

Pernicious Evils can lodge in the body. With improper treatment, the

person can become trapped in the 6 Stages. The person never gets

completely well.

 

The first stage is the TaiYang (Greater Yang) stage. It's

characterized by muscle aches and sinus congestion and discharge.

There is low fever. If the invading Evil is just Wind, there will be

perspiration. If it is Cold, the pores will tend to close. If the

person is suffering from TaiYang-stage Exterior Wind, you want to

open those pores and induce sweating so the Protective Qi will

circulate and the Cold can escape. The analogy that the Chinese use

is that when a thief is in the house one doesn't want to lock the

doors and windows and trap the thief inside, and one doesn't want

to shoot the thief because then the body has to be disposed of. One

wants to leave the doors and windows open so the thief will leave.

 

In the case of TaiYang-stage Wind Evil, the person already is

sweating, and inducing further sweating will weaken the person. The

problem is a disharmony between the Protective Qi and the Nutritive

Qi, so you want to harmonize them.

 

In the TaiYang-stage, only the Exterior of the body has been

affected. " Exterior " in TCM refers to the head, shoulders, arms,

legs, neck, skin, muscles, bones, and meridians. In the ShaoYang-

(Lesser Yang) stage, the Evil has started to penetrate to the

Interior (the Organs) of the body. The person is sicker than in the

ShaoYang-stage. The Evil is part Exterior and part Interior. If the

person is tending toward the ShaoYang-stage, induce sweating. If

the person is tending toward the YangMing- (Bright Yang) stage,

purge the bowels.

 

In the YangMing-stage the Evil has moved completely into the

Interior. The temperature has become quite high. This is the stage

for using cold and bitter herbs to clear Heat. Also for purging,

for sedating Fire, and protecting Yin Fluids. Any Pernicious Evil,

including Cold, can, if trapped, transform into destructive Fire.

The Wind Cold of the common cold becomes the Fire of pneumonia. BTW,

one way to clear Heat from the Lungs is to purge the Large Intestine.

 

The Yang stages are characterized by increasing heat. In the Yin

stages, the temperature may be normal or even below normal. There is

fatigue. The person tends to feel cold a lot and to be bothered by

cold. The illness has become chronic.

 

I've experienced Yin stages with chronic mononucleosis. The lower

my body temperature got, the sicker I was. It finally got down to I

believe 96.3. I even remarked to my doctor that the lower my body

temperature went, the sicker I felt. She had no explanation for it.

 

Most people enter the TaiYin-stage (the first of the 3 Yin stages)

because of over-aggressive treatment with cooling herbs (and in some

cases antibiotics). When it happens spontaneously, it's due to

preexisting Spleen Qi and Spllen Yang weakness. Treatment with

cooling herbs (and antibiotics) may had been necessary and not

excessive, but because the Spleen was weak to begin with, even

necessary cooling was too much. (The Spleen is vulnerable to damage

by Cold. The Spleen is most vulnerable to damage by Dampness, but

Coldness comes in a close second. The Kidneys are most vulnerable to

Cold.)

 

Clearing a Pernicious Evil is NOT the same thing as wiping out a

bacteria or virus. If the Pernicious Evil remains, as soon as the

antibiotics are stopped, the infection comes back, often worse than

before. It happened to me with an ear infection back when I still

had chronic mono. I ended up staying on antibiotics for months. I

finally was able to stop them after the weather had warmed up for a

few months. Each time I finished a course of antibiotics, the

infection came back worse than before. I suspect what happened was

that the warmer weather opened some pores - plus some other things I

was doing - finally got rid of enough of the Pernicious Evil that

the ear infection finally stopped. Unfortunately, that prolonged

course of antibiotics worsened some other things. (At the time I

knew nothing about TCM.)

 

The other model for treating infectious illnesses in TCM is the 4

Levels of Virulent Heat Evils. In theory, if one's Protective Qi is

strong enough, one never comes down with one of the Cold-Induced

Illnesses. Not so with the Virulent Heat Evils. They can overwhelm

the strongest Protective Qi.

[Guest guest]

to lower down cholestrol and maintain it, seeds of water melon are excellent.

chew and eat one table spoon 3 times a day every day

 

Khepri <khepri wrote:

 

Chinese Traditional Medicine wrote:

 

 

> Message: 1

> Tue, 13 Jul 2004 01:18:24 -0000

> " Earl McAfee " <earlmcafee

> American Heart Assoc. lowers Cholesterol targets

>

> The American Heart Association just lowered its target for LDL

> Cho;esterol. he new guidelines for adults at risk are advised to

> lower their LDL to 70 from 100.

>

> This may impact millions of people. What Chinese herbs may be

> effective ?

 

Perhaps you'd like to research the cholesterol

conroversy before you embark on this journey?

 

For this this is a strange move for them when

critics are claiming cholesterol is near useless

as an indicator of potential heart disease....

 

Homocystiene is the new star in that game...

 

Chris

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I'm happy to know that watermellon seeds help.

The lower LDL # sells more drugs. We have to think about what the " experts " are

saying.

Do your own research.

 

Tanveer Rauf <ammi_pk wrote:

to lower down cholestrol and maintain it, seeds of water melon are excellent.

chew and eat one table spoon 3 times a day every day

 

Khepri <khepri wrote:

 

Chinese Traditional Medicine wrote:

 

 

> Message: 1

> Tue, 13 Jul 2004 01:18:24 -0000

> " Earl McAfee " <earlmcafee

> American Heart Assoc. lowers Cholesterol targets

>

> The American Heart Association just lowered its target for LDL

> Cho;esterol. he new guidelines for adults at risk are advised to

> lower their LDL to 70 from 100.

>

> This may impact millions of people. What Chinese herbs may be

> effective ?

 

Perhaps you'd like to research the cholesterol

conroversy before you embark on this journey?

 

For this this is a strange move for them when

critics are claiming cholesterol is near useless

as an indicator of potential heart disease....

 

Homocystiene is the new star in that game...

 

Chris

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Tanveer Rauf,

 

One clarification please. You advised only whole seeds of watermelon here or

kernels of the seeds also have the same medicinal properties?

 

The response will be appreciated.

 

Regards.

 

Abbas

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Tanveer Rauf

Chinese Traditional Medicine

Monday, July 26, 2004 8:00 AM

Re: [Chinese Traditional Medicine] Digest Number 1146

 

 

to lower down cholestrol and maintain it, seeds of water melon are excellent.

chew and eat one table spoon 3 times a day every day

 

 

 

 

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dear abbas, salam

it is more beneficial if seeds are eated alongwith kernals. if difficult to chew

black hard coat then kernals have the value too.

warm regards,

tanveer

 

Abbas <abbas wrote:

Dear Tanveer Rauf,

 

One clarification please. You advised only whole seeds of watermelon here or

kernels of the seeds also have the same medicinal properties?

 

The response will be appreciated.

 

Regards.

 

Abbas

-

Tanveer Rauf

Chinese Traditional Medicine

Monday, July 26, 2004 8:00 AM

Re: [Chinese Traditional Medicine] Digest Number 1146

 

 

to lower down cholestrol and maintain it, seeds of water melon are excellent.

chew and eat one table spoon 3 times a day every day