Acupuncture update

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I am sorry to report that I am yet again having to find another acupuncturist!

 

Each and every time I have had to talk to the past practitioner about using

" less juice " with the needles. The last session he had them in in such a way

that I could not move a muscle on the table and this was after I asked him to

back them off.

 

After than he did acupressure which resulted in a huge bruise on my neck which

throbbed for days and several very severe spasm in my back which had lasted for

3 days in spite of icing each day. I am very concerned that he has messed

something up because this portion of my back was not a problem before I went to

see him.

 

I told him that I had had back surgery and have three bulged disks in my neck so

I feel this borders on malpractice to be so rough.

 

I cannot express how annoying this is in that I told him I left the last

acuncturist because she was too aggressive in her treatment.

 

As an aside, I asked him every single time for my diagnosis and treatment plan

in writing because what he said to me I was not able to totally retain after I

left the office . . . it is difficult to rehearse and memorize when I am

supposed to be relaxing which is hard in that situation as it was. Hence why I

have never been able to discuss my diagnosis on this list....I never got a

complete one. Each time I went in he had something different to say.

 

I have TWO other great acupuncturists, both in different states, so I have some

excellent acupuncture with which to compare.

 

Cat

 

 

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Hi Cat!

 

--- " Cat ^. .^ ~ " <iceisit

wrote:

 

> several very severe spasm in my back which had

> lasted for 3 days in spite of icing each day. I am

 

Are you sure you should be icing that?

 

> different states, so I have some excellent

> acupuncture with which to compare.

 

I'm glad you have two great ones.

 

Bye!

Hugo

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hugo Ramiro wrote:

> Hi Cat!

>

> --- " Cat ^. .^ ~ " <iceisit

>wrote:

>

> > several very severe spasm in my back which had

> > lasted for 3 days in spite of icing each day. I am

>

> Are you sure you should be icing that?

 

 

Almost all Chinese practitioners that I have been to are against ice

 

however with my body with swelling, pain, and inflammation, ice works

extremely well.

 

I have had back surgery, have bulged disks in my neck, a torn tendon in

my shoulder, ankle, have had surgery in both hands and also have

damaged nerves in my feet.

 

I would not be able to live without ice at times.

 

I get plenty of exercise and use several types of massagers

so it is to be hoped that that will overcome come of the

stagnating properties of ice :-)

 

> > different states, so I have some excellent

> > acupuncture with which to compare.

>

> I'm glad you have two great ones.

 

Thanks ! Cheers, Cat

 

 

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--- " Cat ^. .^ ~ " <iceisit

wrote:

 

> however with my body with swelling, pain, and

> inflammation, ice works

> extremely well.

 

Yes, I can understand that. Do you have heat

inflammation, then? Red colour, hot to the touch,

aggravated by pressure?

The CFIDS/associatd patients I have seen do not

exhibit the above very strongly, and I wonder if you

do, or if you achieve good results even though you

have cold / vacuity type inflammation.

 

> I have had back surgery, have bulged disks in my

> neck, a torn tendon in

> my shoulder, ankle, have had surgery in both hands

> and also have

> damaged nerves in my feet.

 

:/

 

> I would not be able to live without ice at times.

 

I am interested to know if you do experience any

clear deleterious effects from ice.

 

> I get plenty of exercise and use several types of

> massagers

> so it is to be hoped that that will overcome come of

> the

> stagnating properties of ice :-)

 

You seem on top of it, best wishes!

 

Thanks,

Hugo

 

 

 

 

 

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Hugo Ramiro wrote:

> --- " Cat ^. .^ ~ " <iceisit

>wrote:

>

> > however with my body with swelling, pain, and

> > inflammation, ice works

> > extremely well.

>

> Yes, I can understand that. Do you have heat

>inflammation, then? Red colour, hot to the touch,

>aggravated by pressure?

 

I have injuries from exercise . . .

 

Yesterday we were supposed to go for a light run of about 45-50 min.

 

We went in a reservoir area . . .

 

My hubby's idea was to go up the hill near the power lines . . .

different trails.

 

I ran one solid hour and walked two solid hours to get out.

 

My knee is twingie. I am going to use ice! :-)

 

> The CFIDS/associatd patients I have seen do not

>exhibit the above very strongly, and I wonder if you

>do, or if you achieve good results even though you

>have cold / vacuity type inflammation.

>

 

If I did not get EXCELLENT results I would not use it.

 

I came home and use the massager machine after I

had been massaging and rubbing while I was walking.

 

Since that wasn't enough I went with ice.

 

I don't normally even remember to use ice because I

forget, but it is hurts enough for me to remember my

ice packs in the freezer, then it is time to use them.

 

I am an Type O bloodtype and need vigorous exercise,

CFS, or FM, or not. I do not do well unless I force

myself to exercise at least 5 days a week.

 

 

General routine is to train M-F, rest on Sat. or Sun.

and a leisurely 2-mile walk on the other day.

 

>

> I am interested to know if you do experience any

>clear deleterious effects from ice.

>

 

Would you expand upon that statement please?

 

for example ?

 

> > I get plenty of exercise and use several types of

> > massagers

> > so it is to be hoped that that will overcome come of

> > the stagnating properties of ice :-)

>

> You seem on top of it, best wishes!

 

 

When I was younger I was always too hot. It is just

in the last 5 years that I seem cold a lot of the time.

 

I don't put ice packs on my chest or upper back where my

lungs are. That area is where I feel cold. I can lay

uncovered on an acupuncture table EXCEPT for my lung

area. . . I have to have that covered. So I assume that

is lung problems from something wrong with my kidneys.

 

I just have not been able to find an acupuncturist who

will TALK to me about this. It is like they think I

won't understand or they are afraid of the licensing laws

here in CT.

 

One actually told me she was not ALLOWED to give a

diagnosis. Silly.

I think the last guy was probably just too lazy to write

one up. He has still not called from my messages on

Sat. and Mon.

 

 

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> Yes, I can understand that. Do you have heat

> inflammation, then? Red colour, hot to the touch,

> aggravated by pressure?

> The CFIDS/associatd patients I have seen do not

> exhibit the above very strongly, and I wonder if you

> do, or if you achieve good results even though you

> have cold / vacuity type inflammation.

 

Hugo, could you post some more on cold/ vacuity type inflammation and

compare and contrast it with heat/ excess inflammation.

 

Thanks.