Guest guest Posted July 17, 2002 Report Share Posted July 17, 2002 Marco, What I am wondering is: The difference in meaning between Shen Ti (less I am drastically mistaking these words in some meaning have been used to refer to the body or bodily Xing aspects in Chinese medicine) shen1 ti3 and xing2 ti3 both mean body. Xing2 means shape or form. Shen1 means body, i.e., the human body. And ti3 means body in the sense on substance, object, structure, and so on. Ti3 also means the human body, and in a fairly typical Chinese way, the compound shen1 ti3 combines characters with two similar meanings to form the common word for the body. Xing2 ti3 also means the body but expresses a slightly different idea about the body, i.e., the body as a manifestation of the human form. Hun Po Yi Zhi Shen (same shen as above?) I'm not sure what you are asking for: definitions of each of these terms? If the shen2 in your list above is what I think it is, then it is not the same shen1 as shen1 ti3. I think you mean shen2, which is often translated as " spirit " . All of these terms on this list refer to mental/emotional/spiritual dynamics. I think Bob Flaws can provide the differentiation between these as he's written a whole book about this subject. Say in different historical epochs and the etymology of the respective words as well as any philological comments that can shed light on the Chinese medicine view of the body, when if know where they introduced as medical concept and when they " peaked " including as to comments as to why) This is a tall order. A grand idea, but it will take a while to fulfill such a request. In fact, it's quite similar to the request that I just put up earlier today for any good sources that provide a comprehensive comparison of the traditional Chinese and contemporary scientific views of the body in terms of anatomy and physiology. Qi and its relation to the above would of course be very interesting. A Brief History of Qi is all about such things. I know that doesn't help you for a talk tomorrow, but you might want to have a look at it for next time. The talk is an informal one so I do not feel in the wrong talking about a subject that really needs years attention. Yeah. The years go by whether or not we pay attention. My aim is to promote Chinese medicine as much as possible in Guatemala both in terms of accessibility (the majority in Guatemala are below poverty line) and to let Chinese medicine speak for it self. I'm very interested in this, and I know that Harriet Beinfield and Efrem Korngold have done some tremendous work in Cuba recently. You might want to get in touch with them as their experience could be quite valuable to you. I think Efrem reads this list. You there, Efrem? i.e. rather then to impose the term energy ...and the body is a different energy from the mind and so forth hence any comments would be much appreciated. I strongly urge you to avoid the word " energy " in this context as it causes more trouble than it solves. I don't think it's easy to search the archives of this list, but we have kicked it around in the past quite a bit. The parentheses about poverty and accessibility really is because someone today via e-mail in Arizona mention that: " ...are not an empty shell taking in... information, but have their pre-conceived notions which influence the way they understand Chinese medicine. " (what a wonderful tool the internet can be when used properly) This really made me think I need comments and suggestions as to minimise my own pre-conceived ideas and notion, one which is that I am " convinced " that Chinese medicine acculturated " properly " can help/contribute to the public health service in Guatemala. I'm quite interested and involved in the issues you've mentioned here. You can get in touch with me off the list if you like to talk about your ideas. I agree that Chinese medicine properly introduced can be of great benefit in public health strategies, both in developed and developing countries. There has been a good deal of work done in Africa, and I recently learned of a private effort underway in India that trains local people to do acupuncture and utilizes these folks in a local clinic providing some of the very limited health care to the population of a small city. Good luck with your talk, and do get in touch with me if you want to pursue the discussion about public health and Chinese medicine in Guatemala. Best, Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2002 Report Share Posted July 17, 2002 , <yulong@m...> wrote: I don't think it's easy > to search the archives of this list, > but we have kicked it around in > the past quite a bit. But that will be changing very soon. We are just about to move to a new server with no ads and more complete searching. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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