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Marco,

 

What I am wondering is:

 

The difference in meaning between

 

Shen

Ti (less I am drastically mistaking these words in some

meaning have been used to refer to the body or bodily Xing

aspects in Chinese medicine)

 

shen1 ti3 and xing2 ti3 both

mean body. Xing2 means shape

or form. Shen1 means body, i.e.,

the human body. And ti3 means body

in the sense on substance, object,

structure, and so on. Ti3 also means

the human body, and in a fairly typical

Chinese way, the compound shen1 ti3

combines characters with two similar

meanings to form the common word for the body.

 

Xing2 ti3 also means the body but

expresses a slightly different idea

about the body, i.e., the body as

a manifestation of the human form.

 

 

Hun

Po

Yi

Zhi

Shen (same shen as above?)

 

I'm not sure what you are asking

for: definitions of each of these

terms?

 

If the shen2 in your list above is

what I think it is, then it is not

the same shen1 as shen1 ti3.

 

I think you mean shen2, which is

often translated as " spirit " .

 

All of these terms on this list

refer to mental/emotional/spiritual

dynamics. I think Bob Flaws can

provide the differentiation between

these as he's written a whole book

about this subject.

 

Say in different historical epochs and the etymology of the respective words

as well as any philological comments that can shed light on the Chinese

medicine view of the body, when if know where they introduced as medical

concept and when they " peaked " including as to comments as to why)

 

This is a tall order. A grand

idea, but it will take a while

to fulfill such a request.

 

In fact, it's quite similar to

the request that I just put up

earlier today for any good sources

that provide a comprehensive

comparison of the traditional Chinese

and contemporary scientific views

of the body in terms of anatomy

and physiology.

 

 

Qi and its relation to the above would of course be very interesting.

 

A Brief History of Qi is all

about such things. I know that

doesn't help you for a talk tomorrow,

but you might want to have a look

at it for next time.

 

The talk is an informal one so I do not feel in the wrong talking about a

subject that really needs years attention.

 

Yeah. The years go by whether or

not we pay attention.

 

My aim is to promote Chinese medicine as much as possible in Guatemala both in

terms of accessibility (the majority in Guatemala are below poverty line) and

to let Chinese medicine speak for it self.

 

I'm very interested in this, and

I know that Harriet Beinfield and

Efrem Korngold have done some

tremendous work in Cuba recently.

You might want to get in touch with

them as their experience could be

quite valuable to you.

 

I think Efrem reads this list.

 

You there, Efrem?

 

 

 

i.e. rather then to impose the term energy ...and the body is a different

energy from the mind and so forth hence any comments would be much

appreciated.

 

I strongly urge you to avoid the

word " energy " in this context as

it causes more trouble than it

solves. I don't think it's easy

to search the archives of this list,

but we have kicked it around in

the past quite a bit.

 

 

 

 

The parentheses about poverty and accessibility really is because someone

today via e-mail in Arizona mention that:

 

" ...are not an empty shell taking in... information, but have their

pre-conceived notions which influence the way they understand Chinese

medicine. "

 

 

(what a wonderful tool the internet can be when used properly)

 

This really made me think I need comments and suggestions as to minimise my

own pre-conceived ideas and notion, one which is that I am " convinced " that

Chinese medicine acculturated " properly " can help/contribute to the public

health service in Guatemala.

 

I'm quite interested and involved in

the issues you've mentioned here. You

can get in touch with me off the list

if you like to talk about your ideas.

I agree that Chinese medicine properly

introduced can be of great benefit in

public health strategies, both in

developed and developing countries.

 

There has been a good deal of work

done in Africa, and I recently learned

of a private effort underway in India

that trains local people to do acupuncture

and utilizes these folks in a local

clinic providing some of the very limited

health care to the population of a

small city.

 

Good luck with your talk, and do

get in touch with me if you want

to pursue the discussion about

public health and Chinese medicine

in Guatemala.

 

Best,

 

Ken

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, <yulong@m...> wrote:

 

I don't think it's easy

> to search the archives of this list,

> but we have kicked it around in

> the past quite a bit.

 

But that will be changing very soon. We are just about to move to

a new server with no ads and more complete searching.

>

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