Guest guest Posted February 7, 2004 Report Share Posted February 7, 2004 This kind of sandwich is what some of my colleagues would refer to as a " spleen bomb, " a category which includes other deliciously damp items like pizza and ice cream. Both peanut butter and bananas are dampening, and the rye bread probably had wheat in it as well, which is also a major dampener. This sandwich is made up of dense, thick, sticky foods. In moderation, that might be good for some constitutions (people who need to build yin), but people tending toward dampness/obesity would be better off avoiding this food. Depending on what type of peanut butter used, it can be even worse. Fresh ground natual stuff has its share of oil, but add the sugar and excess oil that are found in most commercial nut butters, and you're dropping an even bigger bomb on your spleen :-) Again, what is good for one constitution can be detrimental to another, so you have to see what is going on in your body to determine the benefits of a particular food for you. Here is some info from a couple TCM dietary books. Bananas: cold, sweet, lubricates intestines, detoxicates; for constipations, hemorrhoids, hypertension, alcoholism Peanuts: neutral, sweet, lubricates lungs, affects spleen; for dry cough, upset stomach, beriberi, shortage post-partum milk secretion (from Henry Lu's book Chinese System of Food Cures) Bob Flaws' book adds that bananas enter lung/large intestine channels, treat heat diseases. Take care, -Zhongyi egschwa wrote: will somebody summarize the energetics of my latest fad: peanut butter and bananas on rye bread? Thanks. Eirik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2004 Report Share Posted February 12, 2004 Rye tends to drain dampness, but commercial rye bread usually only has a very small amount of actual rye flour in it. Mbanu Chinese Traditional Medicine , <zhongyi4all-list> wrote: > This kind of sandwich is what some of my colleagues would refer to as a " spleen bomb, " a category which includes other deliciously damp items like pizza and ice cream. > Both peanut butter and bananas are dampening, and the rye bread probably had wheat in it as well, which is also a major dampener. This sandwich is made up of dense, thick, sticky foods. In moderation, that might be good for some constitutions (people who need to build yin), but people tending toward dampness/obesity would be better off avoiding this food. > Depending on what type of peanut butter used, it can be even worse. Fresh ground natual stuff has its share of oil, but add the sugar and excess oil that are found in most commercial nut butters, and you're dropping an even bigger bomb on your spleen :-) > Again, what is good for one constitution can be detrimental to another, so you have to see what is going on in your body to determine the benefits of a particular food for you. Here is some info from a couple TCM dietary books. > > Bananas: cold, sweet, lubricates intestines, detoxicates; for constipations, hemorrhoids, hypertension, alcoholism > Peanuts: neutral, sweet, lubricates lungs, affects spleen; for dry cough, upset stomach, beriberi, shortage post-partum milk secretion > (from Henry Lu's book Chinese System of Food Cures) > Bob Flaws' book adds that bananas enter lung/large intestine channels, treat heat diseases. > > Take care, > -Zhongyi > > > > egschwa@t... wrote: > will somebody summarize the energetics of my latest fad: peanut butter > and bananas on rye bread? > > Thanks. > Eirik > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2004 Report Share Posted February 12, 2004 walmart_hurts wrote: >Rye tends to drain dampness, but commercial rye bread usually only >has a very small amount of actual rye flour in it. > >Mbanu What about the " hard tack " which is supposed to be 100% rye? ^. .^ ~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2004 Report Share Posted February 12, 2004 not to mention all the trans fats in peanut butter (unless you eat the organic brands) which have been identified as one of the major components of our diet which cause heart disease - you can tell if there is any present if you have any ingredients such as: - hydrogenated vegetable oil - modified vegetable/palm oil on the label. this is the stuff that clogs your arteries. walmart_hurts <jcc wrote: Rye tends to drain dampness, but commercial rye bread usually only has a very small amount of actual rye flour in it. Mbanu Chinese Traditional Medicine , <zhongyi4all-list> wrote: > This kind of sandwich is what some of my colleagues would refer to as a " spleen bomb, " a category which includes other deliciously damp items like pizza and ice cream. > Both peanut butter and bananas are dampening, and the rye bread probably had wheat in it as well, which is also a major dampener. This sandwich is made up of dense, thick, sticky foods. In moderation, that might be good for some constitutions (people who need to build yin), but people tending toward dampness/obesity would be better off avoiding this food. > Depending on what type of peanut butter used, it can be even worse. Fresh ground natual stuff has its share of oil, but add the sugar and excess oil that are found in most commercial nut butters, and you're dropping an even bigger bomb on your spleen :-) > Again, what is good for one constitution can be detrimental to another, so you have to see what is going on in your body to determine the benefits of a particular food for you. Here is some info from a couple TCM dietary books. > > Bananas: cold, sweet, lubricates intestines, detoxicates; for constipations, hemorrhoids, hypertension, alcoholism > Peanuts: neutral, sweet, lubricates lungs, affects spleen; for dry cough, upset stomach, beriberi, shortage post-partum milk secretion > (from Henry Lu's book Chinese System of Food Cures) > Bob Flaws' book adds that bananas enter lung/large intestine channels, treat heat diseases. > > Take care, > -Zhongyi > > > > egschwa@t... wrote: > will somebody summarize the energetics of my latest fad: peanut butter > and bananas on rye bread? > > Thanks. > Eirik > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2004 Report Share Posted February 13, 2004 jamie farris wrote: >not to mention all the trans fats in peanut butter (unless you eat the organic brands) which have been identified as one of the major components of our diet which cause heart disease - you can tell if there is any present if you have any ingredients such as: > >- hydrogenated vegetable oil >- modified vegetable/palm oil for quite a while I have eaten almond butter with no fractionated whatever in it ^. .^ ~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2004 Report Share Posted February 14, 2004 Peanut butter and banana sandwiches? Am I supposed to take this seriously??? I read these posts and wonder if this list has lost it's mind, or is it just Cat or whoever she is??? Moe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2004 Report Share Posted February 14, 2004 > Peanut butter and banana sandwiches? > > Am I supposed to take this seriously??? > > I read these posts and wonder if this list has lost it's mind, or is it > just Cat or whoever she is??? No, but you've lost your membership on this list for harrassing another member offlist and for attempting to usurp the moderater's role via insults. Folks, I want to point out that foods often can have some properties for individuals that may not be understood at the time. For example, back when I was the sickest and still had an active case of mononucleosis (glandular fever), I craved chicken eggs. I started noticing that when I ate eggs, I did better. I finally started eating 2 eggs per day every day. It wasn't until years later that I learned that eggs were being looked at as a treatment for mononucleosis. I'm glad I listened to my body. Fresh strawberries also helped me. For several days after I consumed strawberries I felt better. To my knowledge no one else with chronic and recurring mononucleosis or CFIDS (Chronic Fatigue Immune Dysfunction) has reported this, but strawberries helped me instead of hurting. Ditto for fresh cherries. I still don't know why these two foods were so helpful for me, but I observed time and time again that they did. In the case of cherries, I know that they are a traditional treatment for some forms of gout, and at least one CFIDS/FMS researcher considers these two disorders to have a lot of similarities to gout. (BTW, I didn't know about this doctor or his work when I first discovered cherries helped.) There is a lot about healing that still is not known. When one is arrogant and puts down what one doesn't understand at the time, one is not likely to learn anything beyond what one already thinks one knows. I also want once again to caution people about off-list contacts. Proceed cautiously. Neither you nor I have any real way of knowing who others really are or what they are like. After you have been on the list for a long while, you will get an idea of who the most knowledgeable healers are and who really knows his or her stuff and who doesn't. Victoria Dragon Moderator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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