Guest guest Posted February 2, 2004 Report Share Posted February 2, 2004 In a message dated 2/2/04 11:39:43 AM Eastern Standard Time, Rabbitbrain writes: > > > What sort of cream is available with estrogen ... is that over the counter > as in as a health food store. > Thanks - Cat > One is playing with fire if they decide on their own that they have an estrogen deficiency and start ordering products online or from the health food store to self medicate. Playing with your hormones affects many other functions of the endocrine system. It is hard enough for a licensed medical practitioner to fine tune just the correct amount of hormone that is needed. It often takes several rx's for the correct amount to be balanced. Many times it is not an estrogen deficiency but an over production of progesterone that is causing many problems and appearing to be an estrogen deficiency. There is controversy over which tests are the most reliable. I have a tendency to like the saliva tests better than the blood test. But please get tested to know where you stand before screwing with your hormones. You should go to a medical practitioner for the test. Timing in the menses cycle is also important in doing the test. Adrenal exhaustion, thyroid problems and many other conditions need to be considered. If you were to pay attention to our media American Women are a walking deficiency of Estroven, Prozac and Phosomax. The truth is we are not. We are being brainwashed into believing we are supposed to have all of these symptoms and that we need to drug ourselves. Prozac is now being marketed to us a Serafem because women can't cope with the daily challenges. The TV commercial depicted a woman struggling with a grocery cart and snapping at her loved ones. (we are supposed to be meek and demure of course, even if our lifestyle has many frustrations we are not supposed to act frustrated or snappish. It must be a disease our women need to be controlled haha.) Truth is Prozac was losing its patent so they invented a new disease called premenstrual dysphoric disorder PMDD and went straight to the women to make their doctors rx the pretty lavender and pink capsule to help them calm down) It is not a safe drug and is causing GYN's to rx powerful antidepressants to people who may or may not be depressed or instead of getting them counseling because of consumer demand. Of course the pharmaceutical company gets to generate millions of dollars in profit from the new named Sarafem since the generic prozac can be obtained now for pennies. Also the stigma has been reduced. And of course it is pretty lavender and pink capsules for women. Many of the estrogen creams on the market are untested and unverified. There is a massive Yam Scam on the market as many others are jumping on the band wagon and marketing to women that their cream is the best. Investigate and make sure your cream can prove how much is in the product and the availability to the system which is different from how much estrogen is in the cream. What tests are they doing to make sure it is bioavalable to women? If you are going to a physician make sure they write bio-identical on the rx. Bio-Identical means it has to carry the same molecule that humans make in the product. Premarin is " Natural " carcinogen to humans. Natural to a pregnant mare which is strapped in a stall unable to walk or move for 7 months of her pregnancy so that her urine can be collected 24 hours a day to make the pre-mare-urine and women can get their hormones. When the horses are of no use for foaling they are sold for meat or just slaughtered unless someone rescues them. There are no guidelines set up in the USA to make companies conform to a standard for natural products. It can contain lavender oil and many other carcinogenic chemicals but the claim can be made it has natural ingredients without reproach from a govt. institution. Just my 2 cents worth Sunny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2004 Report Share Posted February 3, 2004 > One is playing with fire if they decide on their own that they have an > estrogen deficiency and start ordering products online or from the health food store > to self medicate. > Playing with your hormones affects many other functions of the endocrine > system. It is hard enough for a licensed medical practitioner to fine tune just > the correct amount of hormone that is needed. It often takes several rx's for > the correct amount to be balanced. Thanks for the warning and list of safety concerns when using herbal products and supplements to consider when hormone imbalance is suspected. This page should be bookmarked by anyone considering or who might consider balancing hormones. And as you pointed out, not every woman pass a certain age is going to need hormone balancing and replacement. Victoria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2004 Report Share Posted February 3, 2004 > >One is playing with fire if they decide on their own that they have an > >estrogen deficiency and start ordering products online or from the health food store > >to self medicate. > >Playing with your hormones affects many other functions of the endocrine > >system. It is hard enough for a licensed medical practitioner to fine tune just > >the correct amount of hormone that is needed. It often takes several rx's for > >the correct amount to be balanced. I see this more as a warning to people who do not do their own research. You obviously do a lot of research AND pay very careful attention to how things affect you. A lot of people don't. I encourage posters to list contraindications and other things that people need to be aware of for those cases where the person can't get the professional help they need or get inadequate help (which also includes professionals who don't really care and/or who aren't all that knowledgeable about things they claim to be knowledgeable about. > I have enough sense to decide what is best for my body, but following my own reactions > and symptoms, since most of the medical practitioners I have been to always seem > to miss part of the picture. They might get part of it but often something is missing. This is one of the biggest advantages to people learning all they can about their conditions. They often catch things that the healer misses. It's impossible for even the smartest and best educated healers to catch everything. The healers trained in TCM probably catch a lot more than Western allopathic doctors (a whole LOT more), but even TCM-healers can't always catch everything, especially in the case of " knotty " (complex) problems. > And, I do not know one woman in real life who acts as idiotic as they are > protrayed on television. I do. To be fair, I know some men who act like that too. Drug companies advertise a drug on TV, and some people demand that their doctors prescibe it for them. Even though some of these drugs list in the commercial a bunch of possible ghastly side-effects. Naturally the ethical doctors resent this pressure being put on them by drug companies and their commercials. > My M.D. internist is clueless, and the Naturopath I went to said I needed more > magnesium and he gave me some, plus other supplements (not herbs) -- I got terrible > diahreah from all of them and couldn't take any. That was $170 plus $100 in > supplements which was a total waste. In the case of knotty problems, sometimes the order in which something is treated will make a big difference. Sometimes a person cannot take a full dose of something at first. I had to have the magnesium shots as I could not absorb enough from the pills even with malic acid. (I was in very severe shape.) I couldn't take the full dose of the Mg at first even though it greatly helped the muscle weakness and fatigue. My analogy was that it was like putting high octane gas in an old clunker that desperately needs a tune-up. All the high octane gas does is to underscore how desperately the tune-up is needed. I had to take a lower than normal dose for a while until the rest of my body caught up. (In my case the shots by-passed some of the Spleen Deficiency and digestive system problems.) I find knotty problems to be especially interesting because I suffered and still suffer from knotty problems. And, they call for a great deal of creative thought. One reason I recommend that TCM students learn Five Element Theory is that in some cases - particularly in the case of knotty problems - the extra insight that 5 ET brings can mean the difference between a successful outcome and one that leaves a lot to be desired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2004 Report Share Posted February 3, 2004 I wished they did this for me before putting me on birth control when I was in my twenties. That is what messed me up and then I was told to live with it and if I couldn't cope I could see a psychiatrist. The U.S. has got to wake up to allot of things, and this is first on my hope list to see some kind of change because help isn't around. Liz D. - jamie farris Chinese Traditional Medicine 2/2/2004 1:47:51 PM Re: [Chinese Traditional Medicine] Hormones good point. in germany, doctors take blood tests to determine a woman's natural hormone levels before prescribing contraceptive pills. i have yet to see that done here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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