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Cat,

Do you think your might need the hormonal cream that is both estrogen

and progesterone blend for your hot flashes? Just wondering.

 

I am not sure still if some of my problems could be damaged nerves

after what I read about SLS. It seems to be a neurotoxin. But since I

didn't have what I felt was full acupuncture treatment follow through, I

am not ready to give up on this yet. I had too many good results.

 

I tried the blood type diet for two months stayed off of grains and all

I felt was even more fatigue. I couldn't do it. I would like to know how

you find dieting without grains easy???

 

I haven't found a nice body cream yet. But I tried different shampoos

and you can use castle soap for your body and hair. But it leaves your

hair flat, it is a soap leaving heavy residues.

 

I tried a couple of shampoos and didn't like them. I want to buy locally.

Finally I found Aubrey organics. The one I bought is called J.A. Y.

Desert Herb shampoo. I think there were three different kinds. This

shampoo is for normal to dry hair. My hair had been oily. When I stopped

using all soaps with the SLS in it and petroleum products my oily hair

became more normal and so did my skin. Imagine having oily skin at the

age of 45?

 

What helped me find this shampoo was buying a book called Drop Dead

Gorgeous, I forgot the person who wrote it, a lady, but she works for

Aubrey company and most of their products are organic. I loaned my

book out. I borrowed my relatives book called Beauty to Die For by

Judi Vance. You must have both books! This second one has a

glossary in the back to help you figure out what the ingredients are

in the products you buy. What one book doesn't' cover the other does.

 

I have something else in common with you and that is citrus. It seems to

make me constipated. I never viewed it as an allergy but I don't know

why this happens. I really noticed it when I tried taking grapefruit seed

extract last year for yeast overgrowth. Bad move on my part. Then I

notice when I used lemons and drank too much orange juice I dried up

in my gut too. Don't know how to get this to work for me again.

 

I have a strong suspision if you switch products the you will feel even

better. I felt I had arthitis for years and found corn to be the reason for

my stifness and pain. I had to find a reason because the doctors said

I didn't have arthritis!!!!

 

Oh, and when I was doing dishes yesterday I was thinking about acupuncture.

Being it was developed such a long time ago many of the people who had

complaints didn't had the additional burden of chemical toxicity. They had

target meridian problems. Probably a no brainer. So I am going to not

be so critical on my acupuncturist. :)

 

Take care,

Liz D.

 

 

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>Cat,

>Do you think your might need the hormonal cream that is both estrogen

>and progesterone blend for your hot flashes? Just wondering.

 

That could be. Is there a cream with natural progesterone and estrogen.

Did not know there was such a thing. Thanks

 

>I am not sure still if some of my problems could be damaged nerves

>after what I read about SLS. It seems to be a neurotoxin. But since I

>didn't have what I felt was full acupuncture treatment follow through, I

>am not ready to give up on this yet. I had too many good results.

 

Hope you keep getting good results !

 

>I tried the blood type diet for two months stayed off of grains and all

>I felt was even more fatigue. I couldn't do it. I would like to know how

>you find dieting without grains easy???

 

I eat a lot of beef and lamb and vegis. If I crave some sort of grain, I have

spelt pasta, as spelt is allowed occasionally on ER4YT. I didn't find spelt

products for a while after I had been on the diet.

 

For a couple of years I was getting up with arthritis so bad it took me a half

hour to losen up in the morning. After several months on ER4YT I started

to get better. IT sort of scared me off white potatoes, wheat and corn,

which are the worst for type Os.

 

>I haven't found a nice body cream yet. But I tried different shampoos

>and you can use castle soap for your body and hair. But it leaves your

>hair flat, it is a soap leaving heavy residues.

 

I have fine hair so I will check around. thanks.

 

>I tried a couple of shampoos and didn't like them. I want to buy locally.

>Finally I found Aubrey organics. The one I bought is called J.A. Y.

>Desert Herb shampoo. I think there were three different kinds. This

>shampoo is for normal to dry hair. My hair had been oily.

 

Mine is oily also.

 

>When I stopped using all soaps with the SLS in it and petroleum products my

oily hair

>became more normal and so did my skin. Imagine having oily skin at the

>age of 45?

 

I haven't used anything with petroleum that I was aware. don't understand all

of the

labels tho. I used olive oil for my skin. It is oily at first but by morning

my skin is

soft.

 

>

>What helped me find this shampoo was buying a book called Drop Dead

>Gorgeous, I forgot the person who wrote it, a lady, but she works for

>Aubrey company and most of their products are organic. I loaned my

>book out. I borrowed my relatives book called Beauty to Die For by

>Judi Vance. You must have both books! This second one has a

>glossary in the back to help you figure out what the ingredients are

>in the products you buy. What one book doesn't' cover the other does.

 

That is great. I have a couple of great books by Rachel Perry. Her stuff

is great too. We'll have a trio. Hers has excellent massage for face and

neck.

 

>I have something else in common with you and that is citrus. It seems to

>make me constipated. I never viewed it as an allergy but I don't know

>why this happens. I really noticed it when I tried taking grapefruit seed

>extract last year for yeast overgrowth. Bad move on my part. Then I

>notice when I used lemons and drank too much orange juice I dried up

>in my gut too. Don't know how to get this to work for me again.

 

Hhhuummm, I took grapefruit seed extract for a long while and I wasn't aware

of any side effects, but things were complicated then.

 

>I have a strong suspision if you switch products the you will feel even

>better. I felt I had arthitis for years and found corn to be the reason for

>my stifness and pain. I had to find a reason because the doctors said

>I didn't have arthritis!!!!

 

Yup, and then they told me there was nothing one could do for it, ha ha ha !

 

>Oh, and when I was doing dishes yesterday I was thinking about acupuncture.

>Being it was developed such a long time ago many of the people who had

>complaints didn't had the additional burden of chemical toxicity. They had

>target meridian problems. Probably a no brainer. So I am going to not

>be so critical on my acupuncturist. :)

 

But they did have other stressors like Sabre-Toothed Tigers chasing them through

the hills.

Like my grandmother said, there is always a fly in the ointment somewheres !

Thanks for all the info Liz.

Cheers, Cat

 

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Cat, excuse me for my dyslexic thinking. I meant the use of

both creams. Sorry. Liz D.

 

 

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2/1/2004 7:23:44 PM

RE: [Chinese Traditional Medicine] Re:rib pain +++ -->>Cat !

 

 

>Cat,

>Do you think your might need the hormonal cream that is both estrogen

>and progesterone blend for your hot flashes? Just wondering.

 

That could be. Is there a cream with natural progesterone and estrogen.

Did not know there was such a thing. Thanks

 

 

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>Cat, excuse me for my dyslexic thinking. I meant the use of

>both creams. Sorry. Liz D.

 

What sort of cream is available with estrogen ... is that over the counter as in

as a health food store.

Thanks - Cat

 

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there are the phytoestrogen creams with soya in them.

 

if you really crave dairy, you can try using a little goat dairy, it is less

dampening than the cow stuff.

 

if you find you have a problem with toxicity, there are dozens of foods in tcm

that have been identified as removing toxins. bananas are one of them. if you

have a lot of heat in your system, bananas may be very good for you. you would

have to eat them with something that is warmer (for your spleen) though.

 

check the url's i posted in a previous post for more.

 

Cat <iceisit wrote:

>Cat, excuse me for my dyslexic thinking. I meant the use of

>both creams. Sorry. Liz D.

 

What sort of cream is available with estrogen ... is that over the counter as in

as a health food store.

Thanks - Cat

 

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Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced

by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There is another theory which

states that this has already happened. " - Douglas Adams

 

 

 

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http://www.emerita.com/content/shop/products.jsp?id=1

 

This link is to show the product page.

 

I use Emerita Progest cream. I have too much estrogen in my system.

However my hormones are as balanced as they are going to get on

this cream and I rarely need to use it now.

 

My doctor suggested to use this company because they don't add

a lot of other stuff to their formula.

 

This site doesn't seems to show the ingredient listing though. You

should be able to find it at the health food store but you can buy

it cheaper on the net when buying some of your other health or

beauty products.

 

Most of these creams are soy products and many of the other

creams have additional herbs in it. My doctor suggested for me

not to use the creams with additional stuff in it because it becomes

hard to determine if the dosage is incorrect or if you are having

a reaction to the additional herbs.

 

There are many herbs that help boost estrogen in your body but

I would look into advice for which ones to use being that you are trying

acupuncture. It is a whole seperate therapy and I think the wrong

herb for your meridian imbalance can cause a treatment crash.

 

If I recall, Ginger does give you an estrogen effect but I think it increases

heat in the body. Bad thing to use if you have a heat condition.

 

Liz D.

 

 

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2/1/2004 8:22:33 PM

RE: [Chinese Traditional Medicine] Re:rib pain +++ -->>Cat !

 

 

 

What sort of cream is available with estrogen ... is that over the counter as in

as a health food store.

Thanks - Cat

 

 

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jamie farris wrote:

>there are the phytoestrogen creams with soya in them.

>

 

Thanks, I am allergic to soy, and a few other things, which is why I don't drink

soy milk. I love the taste of plain soy milk without the corn syrup and gums in

it.

 

>if you really crave dairy, you can try using a little goat dairy, it is less

dampening than the cow stuff.

>

 

It is not so much that I crave it, maybe, I just get bored and I like it. I

can live without it. It just would like more variety. Even after not

drinking coffee for a long while I don't think about it much. I have the

white tea on occasion as a " comfort food. " I do have goat and sheep diary

product and I always get the least moldy which are made with water.

 

>if you find you have a problem with toxicity, there are dozens of foods in tcm

that have been identified as removing toxins. bananas are one of them.

 

I used to eat a banana a day until I developed blood sugar problems. I love

them, so I will go back to eating them. Thanks

 

> if you have a lot of heat in your system, bananas may be very good for you.

you would have to eat them with something that is warmer (for your spleen)

though.

>

 

Can I eat them before a meal ? Like say a half hour so that I don't mix it with

proteins but get in approximatley the same time? Thanks- Cheers, Cat

 

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I eat bananas to death sometimes. When I feel sick the only thing I

can eat is bananas. I am glad they have an action.

 

Lately eating anything is a turn off, bananas don't feel as good as they

once did, I think because this rib pain bugs me for any reason.

Thanks for the reminder for the past posts.

I have been saving many and I didn't connect that one.

 

I believe I need to see a different acupuncturist. Definitly dietary help

is required with me, not just needles.

 

Liz D.

 

 

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2/2/2004 6:23:53 AM

RE: [Chinese Traditional Medicine] Re:rib pain +++ -->>Cat !

 

 

there are the phytoestrogen creams with soya in them.

 

if you really crave dairy, you can try using a little goat dairy, it is less

dampening than the cow stuff.

 

if you find you have a problem with toxicity, there are dozens of foods in tcm

that have been identified as removing toxins. bananas are one of them. if you

have a lot of heat in your system, bananas may be very good for you. you would

have to eat them with something that is warmer (for your spleen) though.

 

check the url's i posted in a previous post for more.

 

 

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Sorry the soy isn't helpful. Talk to someone that could suggest

a safe alternative for estrogen supplement. There are more than

soy out there.

 

LIz D.

 

 

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2/2/2004 8:45:45 AM

RE: [Chinese Traditional Medicine] Re:rib pain +++ -->>Cat !

 

 

Thanks, I am allergic to soy, and a few other things, which is why I don't drink

soy milk. I love the taste of plain soy milk without the corn syrup and gums in

it.

 

 

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>http://www.emerita.com/content/shop/products.jsp?id=1

>

>This link is to show the product page.

>

>I use Emerita Progest cream.

 

that is what I have been using for a couple of years, thank you

 

>I have too much estrogen in my system.

 

estrogen dominance Dr. Lee calls it I read

 

>However my hormones are as balanced as they are going to get on

>this cream and I rarely need to use it now.

 

why is that? did the acupuncture or herbs help more?

 

>My doctor suggested to use this company because they don't add

>a lot of other stuff to their formula.

 

Well, I am allergic to soy and there is aloe in it which according type O I

should not have regularly. a burn treatment is one thing, but I also

was trying to get away from it because it is contained in soft plastic.

 

I paid $170 for an intake with a doc who I called on the phone and said

that I wanted prescription for progesterone in glass container.

We have a place here that makes it like that just 20 min. from my home.

He wanted me to get $375 tests, so I spent the money on acupuncture

treatments instead.

 

>This site doesn't seems to show the ingredient listing though.

 

It has almond oil, aloe, and very few other ingredients, if it is the same

Emeritus progesterone cream which I use.

 

>You should be able to find it at the health food store but you can buy

>it cheaper on the net when buying some of your other health or

>beauty products.

>

>Most of these creams are soy products and many of the other

>creams have additional herbs in it.

 

I know about the soy deal, as she the acupuncturist suggested I make my own soy

milk.

I tried to explain about the blood tests, and she seemed to think with

acupuncture

allergies would go away. I am not taking any chances ! At least for now.

 

>My doctor suggested for me

>not to use the creams with additional stuff in it because it becomes

>hard to determine if the dosage is incorrect or if you are having

>a reaction to the additional herbs.

 

I went to a naturopath in VT a couple of years ago who said don't eat anything

unless I know exactly what is it in. Good advice :-) The same thing

goes for what can be absorbed.

 

I did get some Avalon bath gels by the way, thanks!

 

>There are many herbs that help boost estrogen in your body but

>I would look into advice for which ones to use being that you are trying

>acupuncture. It is a whole seperate therapy and I think the wrong

>herb for your meridian imbalance can cause a treatment crash.

>

>If I recall, Ginger does give you an estrogen effect but I think it increases

>heat in the body. Bad thing to use if you have a heat condition.

 

I used to take ginger and cayenne capsules but my acupuncturist said that they

created heat

so I quit. I was cold all of the time and took them to stay warm. :-)

 

Thanks for all the good info. I am going to get some bananas TODAY !

 

Cat

 

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>I eat bananas to death sometimes. When I feel sick the only thing I

>can eat is bananas. I am glad they have an action.

>

>Lately eating anything is a turn off, bananas don't feel as good as they

>once did,

 

That is exactly the way I feel !!! hence why I put tumeric and curry

in my food so that it will be more appealing. Ever since I stopped

drinking coffee, I am not so interested in food.

 

I make everthing at home and my husband says how good is smells, and

I suppose if I am going the cooking all of the time maybe the

smell is jading my appetite.... and I thought people lost their

appetites when they got older, but I thought that might be in

another 30 years or so. ;-)

 

>I think because this rib pain bugs me for any reason.

> Thanks for the reminder for the past posts.

>I have been saving many and I didn't connect that one.

>

>I believe I need to see a different acupuncturist. Definitly dietary help

>is required with me, not just needles.

 

I need to find someone with gentler needles. That twirling was getting to

me and I think she thought that it was necessary. I have had two

great Chinese women in other cities who didn't twirl. They used more

needles and no twirl. She wanted less needles and deeper and twirling.

My body is sensitive and receptive to acupuncture so I need to find

another one around here somewhere.

 

Cheers, Cat

 

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well, you might try citronella as a herb in your food, it is great for liver

problems.

 

 

 

Cat <iceisit wrote:

>I eat bananas to death sometimes. When I feel sick the only thing I

>can eat is bananas. I am glad they have an action.

>

>Lately eating anything is a turn off, bananas don't feel as good as they

>once did,

 

That is exactly the way I feel !!! hence why I put tumeric and curry

in my food so that it will be more appealing. Ever since I stopped

drinking coffee, I am not so interested in food.

 

I make everthing at home and my husband says how good is smells, and

I suppose if I am going the cooking all of the time maybe the

smell is jading my appetite.... and I thought people lost their

appetites when they got older, but I thought that might be in

another 30 years or so. ;-)

 

>I think because this rib pain bugs me for any reason.

> Thanks for the reminder for the past posts.

>I have been saving many and I didn't connect that one.

>

>I believe I need to see a different acupuncturist. Definitly dietary help

>is required with me, not just needles.

 

I need to find someone with gentler needles. That twirling was getting to

me and I think she thought that it was necessary. I have had two

great Chinese women in other cities who didn't twirl. They used more

needles and no twirl. She wanted less needles and deeper and twirling.

My body is sensitive and receptive to acupuncture so I need to find

another one around here somewhere.

 

Cheers, Cat

 

^. .^ ~

 

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Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced

by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There is another theory which

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