Guest guest Posted February 1, 2004 Report Share Posted February 1, 2004 Avalon Organics and Nature's Gate Organics are two shapmoos I have found without this ingredient. They also smell nice and have high percent organic ingredients. Aubrey Organics is a very ethical company, so you might want to check on their shampoo as well (I haven't used it so I am not positive). Not sure about using them as body washes. I would look into if these product lines sell items specifically designed for body wash use or find a natural soap that you like. I think some shampoos might be too harsh for parts of the body. Hope that's a good start. Usually the companies that don't include this ingredient advertise that fact, so you might be able to find some more online by searching for SLS-free or something like that. :-) ZY --- Cat <iceisit wrote: > >I can identify with you, Cat, many things we are > alike except that I haven't hit > >menopause yet but I wonder if it is related to > hormones slowing down. > > Hi Liz - Thanks for your note > > I definitely feel that most of what has been going > wrong with me is due to the hormone imbalances > during menopause. I do use progesterone cream, > small amount, but when I have hot flashes sometimes > I get nauseous just like I did when I was a teen. > But the weakening of stomach, liver, kidney, spleen, > etc., I am sure is to do hormonal changes. Some > people are not nearly hit so hard and don't even > hardly notice it. It has hit me very hard. I > cannot imagine what it would have been like it I had > not taken care of myself and exercised my entire > life. > > There is stress from the building I live in and she > had said I have heat rising. It can also be > triggered by emotional upset. I am in a situation > where I have no place to go to get a break from it. > I used to in another city have a house instead of > an apartment and the keys to two different places > where I work so I always could get a change of > scenery. Not now which is very stressful. My > office is in my home, unfortunately. > > She said to try to get the energy to go downward > (opposite of heat rising) by meditation or to " cool > down " > Easier said that done with environmental situations > which are out of my control. This really became > exacerbated when people two floors down kept me > awake most of the night for 5 straight months. That > stomach/liver pain acutally started immediately > after that. > > >It is possible that you were sensitive to the > enzymes you took or didn't need > >them. Enzymes can cause a cleansing reaction to > the whole digestion at > >first, I would have stopped taking them too if my > symptoms were that strong. > > I had never had heartburn in my life until I took > the digestive enzymes and the stools got small as if > I had spasms. > When I quit all of that went away. Too bad it took > me a week to figure out what it was. I was > concerned I had done some damage. But all of the > seemed to have gone away within a week of stopping. > > >I wanted to answer back earlier but got my period > and felt so out of balance. > >By the way, I had needles treat my period one month > and it really works. However > >it didn't carry over to other months and I cannot > afford to get treated each month. > >Moxa was then used on the needles. > > I had a guy in Minneapolis who did Moxa along with > walking on my back with the acupuncture. I also had > another Chinese woman in Mpls. who did needles. A > different Chinese woman in upstate NY, and yet a > different here in CT. It is interesting even > though they were all trained in China how > differently they approach the treatments. The > first two did not hurt at all, and all the others I > have had over 25 years didn't. But the last ones > were just more than I could tolerate after several > months. > > >Also while having a few needles in my abdomen I > tried to relax and then took > >a deep breath. Well that wasn't the best idea. > The traveling, shocking pain I > >felt got me a bit worried. I was told it was > because of my movements and the > >needles are placed in far. I can't imagine > getting a massage done while the > >needles are in there!!!! Ohhh!!! > > I mistated myself. She did acupuncture on my back > first, for about 45-60 min. then I would turn over > and had it on my stomach and feet for 45-60 min. > After than should would massage a few points each > time. But she went VERY deep into my stomach and I > was totally relaxed and wasn't expected that and it > was just too much for me like that 2ce a week. I > have a very sensitive body which has always > responded extremely quickly to accupuncture and I > don't need that much intensive work. > > >For some reason, I also cannot drink milk well and > grains seem to bother my > >gut more. > > The more I don't eat grains and dairy the greater I > feel. It gets boring after a while, being a > typical American, to now have only veigs and > proteins. Ocassionally we make spelt pasta at > home, but other than rice on occasion I don't eat > grains or flour. I don't eat fruit too often > because I am concerned about my blood sugar, but > actually the acupuncture seems to have helped my > blood sugar a lot. I used to have to eat every 2 > hours like clockwork and now I can go 4 hours > without eating for the first time in 20 years. She > said that as my stomach got better my blood sugar > problems would straighten out. I said isnt' that > controlled by pancreas and she just shrugged. She > not like to argue, but the stomach work did help my > blood sugar. > > >I haven't pinned down the source of the problem > yet. I am not > >lactose intolerant. I read about gluten > sensitivity, maybe that. ?? > > I know that this is not the list for this, but quite > a number of years ago I started following the Eat > Right for Your Type which goes by blood type. That > has been the ONE huge different in my entire life. > I have always eaten organic food, worked in a coop > during the 70s, etc. In fact I grew up on a truck > farm and we raised a lot of stuff when I was a kid, > chickens, etc., and I sort of kept that natural way > of life. My hubby was reading Adelle Davis while I > was working in the co-ops even though we didn't meet > for decades later, LOL. So he is healthy too and > that makes it easy as we always have only healthy > food in the house. > > But I very carefully stay away from avoids for my > blood type and it has helped tremendously. > > >I wanted to add to this thread about my experience > with bath soap. I was using > >many products around the house with sodium laureth > sulfate in it. I was getting > >fatigue beyond measure and depression. > > I never thought of that. Dr. Hulda Clark is big on > watching everything. > Usually I put my Aveda shampoo in the water, a > little. > What do you use for shampoo, castille soap ? > Dr. Clark recommends borax crystals. > > >I just had 3 good months of acupuncture raising my > energy levels and 2 months later crashed after > taking > >a shower. I thought I was feeling bad by something > I was eating. HA!! > > That is exaclty what she was trying to do is raise > my energy levels, when I first went in I was rather > depressed and lethargic. > > >I read allot about this ingredient and it wasn't > good news. It is a synthetic ingredient > >and it is possible that my system isn't breaking > down and removing inorganic > >ingredients. > > Oh I see. I should take a look at that. Is there > any kind of shampoo which is pure and can double as > bath gel? > > >I mentioned that I tried getting treatment for the > rib cage pain without results. > >Also what I was complaining about was pain in my > spinal column from the back > >of my neck to between my shoulder blades. > > That is EXACTLY the same place I am having tightness > !!!! > > >And an irritating pain in my right > >lower back that felt like a knitting needle being > stuck in me. When the pain would > >get strong I was sure to get constipated. > > I hope you don't have a back problem. I had had > back surgery 14 years ago. I am not suggesting you > have back problems, but I know that sort of pain > exactly. > > >My acupuncturist told me that this lower back pain > isn't related to a meridian but > >she didn't know what it was. She placed needles > there and even used the TENS > >unit. Felt good that day and then returned. > > uuummmm.... > > >The morning I discovered my soap was making me > fatigued and I stopped using > >it. Three days went by and this pain in my lower > back went away completely. > >So did the pain along my spine area. > > Okay, so it is the soap and not nerve damage. > Great > Can you tell I read as I write. Not good. LOL > > >Also to mention here is that the pain in my > >rib cage reduced considerably. So this area must > be a pathway for toxins to > >compile. I am guessing the liver dumps it into the > intestines choking off some > >channels. > > Well, I have a confession to make. I did something > really stupid last summer. I started using faux > tanning supplies. > Now I would check the ingredients, but still, my > husband said " Well, if it changes the color of your > skin, it cannot be healthy. . . . " Meanwhile the > Grrls with the gorgeous tans get all the stares, > right. I am extremely pale skinned and I looked > great it in. I would use it every week one summer > and then started the beginning of last summer. > > Combines with menopause I am sure this really hurt > my liver. Sooooooo, no more faux tanner for this > Grrl. ;-) > > So I am very much appreciative that you mention the > shampoo. Never thought of that but since I shampoo > my hair every day and use it as bath gel, that would > make sense. > > >I have stopped using these products. I am now > wondering about what might be > >causing this rib cage pain if it is connected to my > diet? I am sure that could be a > >factor. I found petrochemicals a problem too. > > I don't drink water packaged in plastic, normally, > just Gerolsteiner water or however it is spelled. > > >I am wondering too if this really is a meridian > issue now that I removed a main > >source of the problem? What I seem to feel is > this: Like a person who has a > >tendency for getting headaches, many different > things could trigger it. Like with > >this ribcage pain, many things could trigger it. > It is a weak area. > > Well, I don't have headaches except for rare times > during my life or when I am around things which I am > allergic to like an extreme amount of dust or > perfumes or candle products, etc., or before I get > the flu or a cold. > > I have been putting fresh lime juice on all the > floor boards near the heaters in my apt. and it > seems to be killing the mold. Dr. Clark said mold > cannot live in lime juice. She recommends drinking > it, but I kept wondering whether I had a citrus > allergy ... never showed up on blood tests, but I > decided to leave citrus alone for a while and see > what happens when I reintroduce it. > > >I have been off the products for 1 month. However > I understand a person detoxing > >from drugs takes 3-4 months. Could this apply to > me too? So many things I don't > >know. > > It can take 90 days for some chemicals to leave your > body, I believe that is correct. What are you > using, if I may ask. > > >I did have my liver meridian treated and I felt so > relaxed. I slept so deeply. It is > >a benefit for relaxation for a stressed out person. > I hope my experience is helpful > >for someone not relating the soap products to their > symptoms. However I still > >have some irritation there too but not extreme > > I had my husband take the massage machine and put in > on my back and also on the bottom of my feet when I > had terrible insomnia. That did help. So maybe > using massager on meridians or points would be > helpful as well. > > >I am interested in starting back to see my > acupuncturist because she doesn't > >know about this occurrence and would be interested. > If I have more knowledge > >it would make a productive next visit. > > Good luck with that and hope some people can give > you good advice! Thanks very much for your note as > it was very thought provoking!!! Night ~ > > Cheers, Cat > > ^. .^ ~ > > " A computer once beat me at chess, but it was no > match for me at kick boxing. " --Emo Philips > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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