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Avalon Organics and Nature's Gate Organics are two

shapmoos I have found without this ingredient. They

also smell nice and have high percent organic

ingredients. Aubrey Organics is a very ethical

company, so you might want to check on their shampoo

as well (I haven't used it so I am not positive).

 

Not sure about using them as body washes. I would

look into if these product lines sell items

specifically designed for body wash use or find a

natural soap that you like. I think some shampoos

might be too harsh for parts of the body.

 

Hope that's a good start. Usually the companies that

don't include this ingredient advertise that fact, so

you might be able to find some more online by

searching for SLS-free or something like that.

 

:-) ZY

 

 

 

--- Cat <iceisit wrote:

> >I can identify with you, Cat, many things we are

> alike except that I haven't hit

> >menopause yet but I wonder if it is related to

> hormones slowing down.

>

> Hi Liz - Thanks for your note

>

> I definitely feel that most of what has been going

> wrong with me is due to the hormone imbalances

> during menopause. I do use progesterone cream,

> small amount, but when I have hot flashes sometimes

> I get nauseous just like I did when I was a teen.

> But the weakening of stomach, liver, kidney, spleen,

> etc., I am sure is to do hormonal changes. Some

> people are not nearly hit so hard and don't even

> hardly notice it. It has hit me very hard. I

> cannot imagine what it would have been like it I had

> not taken care of myself and exercised my entire

> life.

>

> There is stress from the building I live in and she

> had said I have heat rising. It can also be

> triggered by emotional upset. I am in a situation

> where I have no place to go to get a break from it.

> I used to in another city have a house instead of

> an apartment and the keys to two different places

> where I work so I always could get a change of

> scenery. Not now which is very stressful. My

> office is in my home, unfortunately.

>

> She said to try to get the energy to go downward

> (opposite of heat rising) by meditation or to " cool

> down "

> Easier said that done with environmental situations

> which are out of my control. This really became

> exacerbated when people two floors down kept me

> awake most of the night for 5 straight months. That

> stomach/liver pain acutally started immediately

> after that.

>

> >It is possible that you were sensitive to the

> enzymes you took or didn't need

> >them. Enzymes can cause a cleansing reaction to

> the whole digestion at

> >first, I would have stopped taking them too if my

> symptoms were that strong.

>

> I had never had heartburn in my life until I took

> the digestive enzymes and the stools got small as if

> I had spasms.

> When I quit all of that went away. Too bad it took

> me a week to figure out what it was. I was

> concerned I had done some damage. But all of the

> seemed to have gone away within a week of stopping.

>

> >I wanted to answer back earlier but got my period

> and felt so out of balance.

> >By the way, I had needles treat my period one month

> and it really works. However

> >it didn't carry over to other months and I cannot

> afford to get treated each month.

> >Moxa was then used on the needles.

>

> I had a guy in Minneapolis who did Moxa along with

> walking on my back with the acupuncture. I also had

> another Chinese woman in Mpls. who did needles. A

> different Chinese woman in upstate NY, and yet a

> different here in CT. It is interesting even

> though they were all trained in China how

> differently they approach the treatments. The

> first two did not hurt at all, and all the others I

> have had over 25 years didn't. But the last ones

> were just more than I could tolerate after several

> months.

>

> >Also while having a few needles in my abdomen I

> tried to relax and then took

> >a deep breath. Well that wasn't the best idea.

> The traveling, shocking pain I

> >felt got me a bit worried. I was told it was

> because of my movements and the

> >needles are placed in far. I can't imagine

> getting a massage done while the

> >needles are in there!!!! Ohhh!!!

>

> I mistated myself. She did acupuncture on my back

> first, for about 45-60 min. then I would turn over

> and had it on my stomach and feet for 45-60 min.

> After than should would massage a few points each

> time. But she went VERY deep into my stomach and I

> was totally relaxed and wasn't expected that and it

> was just too much for me like that 2ce a week. I

> have a very sensitive body which has always

> responded extremely quickly to accupuncture and I

> don't need that much intensive work.

>

> >For some reason, I also cannot drink milk well and

> grains seem to bother my

> >gut more.

>

> The more I don't eat grains and dairy the greater I

> feel. It gets boring after a while, being a

> typical American, to now have only veigs and

> proteins. Ocassionally we make spelt pasta at

> home, but other than rice on occasion I don't eat

> grains or flour. I don't eat fruit too often

> because I am concerned about my blood sugar, but

> actually the acupuncture seems to have helped my

> blood sugar a lot. I used to have to eat every 2

> hours like clockwork and now I can go 4 hours

> without eating for the first time in 20 years. She

> said that as my stomach got better my blood sugar

> problems would straighten out. I said isnt' that

> controlled by pancreas and she just shrugged. She

> not like to argue, but the stomach work did help my

> blood sugar.

>

> >I haven't pinned down the source of the problem

> yet. I am not

> >lactose intolerant. I read about gluten

> sensitivity, maybe that. ??

>

> I know that this is not the list for this, but quite

> a number of years ago I started following the Eat

> Right for Your Type which goes by blood type. That

> has been the ONE huge different in my entire life.

> I have always eaten organic food, worked in a coop

> during the 70s, etc. In fact I grew up on a truck

> farm and we raised a lot of stuff when I was a kid,

> chickens, etc., and I sort of kept that natural way

> of life. My hubby was reading Adelle Davis while I

> was working in the co-ops even though we didn't meet

> for decades later, LOL. So he is healthy too and

> that makes it easy as we always have only healthy

> food in the house.

>

> But I very carefully stay away from avoids for my

> blood type and it has helped tremendously.

>

> >I wanted to add to this thread about my experience

> with bath soap. I was using

> >many products around the house with sodium laureth

> sulfate in it. I was getting

> >fatigue beyond measure and depression.

>

> I never thought of that. Dr. Hulda Clark is big on

> watching everything.

> Usually I put my Aveda shampoo in the water, a

> little.

> What do you use for shampoo, castille soap ?

> Dr. Clark recommends borax crystals.

>

> >I just had 3 good months of acupuncture raising my

> energy levels and 2 months later crashed after

> taking

> >a shower. I thought I was feeling bad by something

> I was eating. HA!!

>

> That is exaclty what she was trying to do is raise

> my energy levels, when I first went in I was rather

> depressed and lethargic.

>

> >I read allot about this ingredient and it wasn't

> good news. It is a synthetic ingredient

> >and it is possible that my system isn't breaking

> down and removing inorganic

> >ingredients.

>

> Oh I see. I should take a look at that. Is there

> any kind of shampoo which is pure and can double as

> bath gel?

>

> >I mentioned that I tried getting treatment for the

> rib cage pain without results.

> >Also what I was complaining about was pain in my

> spinal column from the back

> >of my neck to between my shoulder blades.

>

> That is EXACTLY the same place I am having tightness

> !!!!

>

> >And an irritating pain in my right

> >lower back that felt like a knitting needle being

> stuck in me. When the pain would

> >get strong I was sure to get constipated.

>

> I hope you don't have a back problem. I had had

> back surgery 14 years ago. I am not suggesting you

> have back problems, but I know that sort of pain

> exactly.

>

> >My acupuncturist told me that this lower back pain

> isn't related to a meridian but

> >she didn't know what it was. She placed needles

> there and even used the TENS

> >unit. Felt good that day and then returned.

>

> uuummmm....

>

> >The morning I discovered my soap was making me

> fatigued and I stopped using

> >it. Three days went by and this pain in my lower

> back went away completely.

> >So did the pain along my spine area.

>

> Okay, so it is the soap and not nerve damage.

> Great

> Can you tell I read as I write. Not good. LOL

>

> >Also to mention here is that the pain in my

> >rib cage reduced considerably. So this area must

> be a pathway for toxins to

> >compile. I am guessing the liver dumps it into the

> intestines choking off some

> >channels.

>

> Well, I have a confession to make. I did something

> really stupid last summer. I started using faux

> tanning supplies.

> Now I would check the ingredients, but still, my

> husband said " Well, if it changes the color of your

> skin, it cannot be healthy. . . . " Meanwhile the

> Grrls with the gorgeous tans get all the stares,

> right. I am extremely pale skinned and I looked

> great it in. I would use it every week one summer

> and then started the beginning of last summer.

>

> Combines with menopause I am sure this really hurt

> my liver. Sooooooo, no more faux tanner for this

> Grrl. ;-)

>

> So I am very much appreciative that you mention the

> shampoo. Never thought of that but since I shampoo

> my hair every day and use it as bath gel, that would

> make sense.

>

> >I have stopped using these products. I am now

> wondering about what might be

> >causing this rib cage pain if it is connected to my

> diet? I am sure that could be a

> >factor. I found petrochemicals a problem too.

>

> I don't drink water packaged in plastic, normally,

> just Gerolsteiner water or however it is spelled.

>

> >I am wondering too if this really is a meridian

> issue now that I removed a main

> >source of the problem? What I seem to feel is

> this: Like a person who has a

> >tendency for getting headaches, many different

> things could trigger it. Like with

> >this ribcage pain, many things could trigger it.

> It is a weak area.

>

> Well, I don't have headaches except for rare times

> during my life or when I am around things which I am

> allergic to like an extreme amount of dust or

> perfumes or candle products, etc., or before I get

> the flu or a cold.

>

> I have been putting fresh lime juice on all the

> floor boards near the heaters in my apt. and it

> seems to be killing the mold. Dr. Clark said mold

> cannot live in lime juice. She recommends drinking

> it, but I kept wondering whether I had a citrus

> allergy ... never showed up on blood tests, but I

> decided to leave citrus alone for a while and see

> what happens when I reintroduce it.

>

> >I have been off the products for 1 month. However

> I understand a person detoxing

> >from drugs takes 3-4 months. Could this apply to

> me too? So many things I don't

> >know.

>

> It can take 90 days for some chemicals to leave your

> body, I believe that is correct. What are you

> using, if I may ask.

>

> >I did have my liver meridian treated and I felt so

> relaxed. I slept so deeply. It is

> >a benefit for relaxation for a stressed out person.

> I hope my experience is helpful

> >for someone not relating the soap products to their

> symptoms. However I still

> >have some irritation there too but not extreme

>

> I had my husband take the massage machine and put in

> on my back and also on the bottom of my feet when I

> had terrible insomnia. That did help. So maybe

> using massager on meridians or points would be

> helpful as well.

>

> >I am interested in starting back to see my

> acupuncturist because she doesn't

> >know about this occurrence and would be interested.

> If I have more knowledge

> >it would make a productive next visit.

>

> Good luck with that and hope some people can give

> you good advice! Thanks very much for your note as

> it was very thought provoking!!! Night ~

>

> Cheers, Cat

>

> ^. .^ ~

>

> " A computer once beat me at chess, but it was no

> match for me at kick boxing. " --Emo Philips

>

>

>

>

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