Guest guest Posted February 1, 2004 Report Share Posted February 1, 2004 I can identify with you, Cat, many things we are alike except that I haven't hit menopause yet but I wonder if it is related to hormones slowing down. It is possible that you were sensitive to the enzymes you took or didn't need them. Enzymes can cause a cleansing reaction to the whole digestion at first, I would have stopped taking them too if my symptoms were that strong. I wanted to answer back earlier but got my period and felt so out of balance. By the way, I had needles treat my period one month and it really works. However it didn't carry over to other months and I cannot afford to get treated each month. Moxa was then used on the needles. Also while having a few needles in my abdomen I tried to relax and then took a deep breath. Well that wasn't the best idea. The traveling, shocking pain I felt got me a bit worried. I was told it was because of my movements and the needles are placed in far. I can't imagine getting a massage done while the needles are in there!!!! Ohhh!!! For some reason, I also cannot drink milk well and grains seem to bother my gut more. I haven't pinned down the source of the problem yet. I am not lactose intolerant. I read about gluten sensitivity, maybe that. ?? I wanted to add to this thread about my experience with bath soap. I was using many products around the house with sodium laureth sulfate in it. I was getting fatigue beyond measure and depression. I just had 3 good months of acupuncture raising my energy levels and 2 months later crashed after taking a shower. I thought I was feeling bad by something I was eating. HA!! I read allot about this ingredient and it wasn't good news. It is a synthetic ingredient and it is possible that my system isn't breaking down and removing inorganic ingredients. I mentioned that I tried getting treatment for the rib cage pain without results. Also what I was complaining about was pain in my spinal column from the back of my neck to between my shoulder blades. And an irritating pain in my right lower back that felt like a knitting needle being stuck in me. When the pain would get strong I was sure to get constipated. My acupuncturist told me that this lower back pain isn't related to a meridian but she didn't know what it was. She placed needles there and even used the TENS unit. Felt good that day and then returned. The morning I discovered my soap was making me fatigued and I stopped using it. Three days went by and this pain in my lower back went away completely. So did the pain along my spine area. Also to mention here is that the pain in my rib cage reduced considerably. So this area must be a pathway for toxins to compile. I am guessing the liver dumps it into the intestines choking off some channels. I have stopped using these products. I am now wondering about what might be causing this rib cage pain if it is connected to my diet? I am sure that could be a factor. I found petrochemicals a problem too. I am wondering too if this really is a meridian issue now that I removed a main source of the problem? What I seem to feel is this: Like a person who has a tendency for getting headaches, many different things could trigger it. Like with this ribcage pain, many things could trigger it. It is a weak area. I have been off the products for 1 month. However I understand a person detoxing from drugs takes 3-4 months. Could this apply to me too? So many things I don't know. I did have my liver meridian treated and I felt so relaxed. I slept so deeply. It is a benefit for relaxation for a stressed out person. I hope my experience is helpful for someone not relating the soap products to their symptoms. However I still have some irritation there too but not extreme Now if anyone can answer me if can offer a way to help eliminate toxins or irritants such as I mentioned that might be backing up? I read about different naturopathic approaches with herbs but I am interested to know if Chinese medicine can be used. I will ask about it but I would like to know what to ask for. I am interested in starting back to see my acupuncturist because she doesn't know about this occurrence and would be interested. If I have more knowledge it would make a productive next visit. Liz D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2004 Report Share Posted February 1, 2004 greetings I have these questions: 1- your blood type 2- are you obese 3- are you aversion to cold 4- any strange tase ( bitter, sour) 5- do you catch cold easly 6- do you irritate very easy 7- any dizzness 8- do you have a history of bronchitis 9- any pain transfere from side to side treatment will follow after the answers Dr.K <Rabbitbrain wrote: I can identify with you, Cat, many things we are alike except that I haven't hit menopause yet but I wonder if it is related to hormones slowing down. It is possible that you were sensitive to the enzymes you took or didn't need them. Enzymes can cause a cleansing reaction to the whole digestion at first, I would have stopped taking them too if my symptoms were that strong. I wanted to answer back earlier but got my period and felt so out of balance. By the way, I had needles treat my period one month and it really works. However it didn't carry over to other months and I cannot afford to get treated each month. Moxa was then used on the needles. Also while having a few needles in my abdomen I tried to relax and then took a deep breath. Well that wasn't the best idea. The traveling, shocking pain I felt got me a bit worried. I was told it was because of my movements and the needles are placed in far. I can't imagine getting a massage done while the needles are in there!!!! Ohhh!!! For some reason, I also cannot drink milk well and grains seem to bother my gut more. I haven't pinned down the source of the problem yet. I am not lactose intolerant. I read about gluten sensitivity, maybe that. ?? I wanted to add to this thread about my experience with bath soap. I was using many products around the house with sodium laureth sulfate in it. I was getting fatigue beyond measure and depression. I just had 3 good months of acupuncture raising my energy levels and 2 months later crashed after taking a shower. I thought I was feeling bad by something I was eating. HA!! I read allot about this ingredient and it wasn't good news. It is a synthetic ingredient and it is possible that my system isn't breaking down and removing inorganic ingredients. I mentioned that I tried getting treatment for the rib cage pain without results. Also what I was complaining about was pain in my spinal column from the back of my neck to between my shoulder blades. And an irritating pain in my right lower back that felt like a knitting needle being stuck in me. When the pain would get strong I was sure to get constipated. My acupuncturist told me that this lower back pain isn't related to a meridian but she didn't know what it was. She placed needles there and even used the TENS unit. Felt good that day and then returned. The morning I discovered my soap was making me fatigued and I stopped using it. Three days went by and this pain in my lower back went away completely. So did the pain along my spine area. Also to mention here is that the pain in my rib cage reduced considerably. So this area must be a pathway for toxins to compile. I am guessing the liver dumps it into the intestines choking off some channels. I have stopped using these products. I am now wondering about what might be causing this rib cage pain if it is connected to my diet? I am sure that could be a factor. I found petrochemicals a problem too. I am wondering too if this really is a meridian issue now that I removed a main source of the problem? What I seem to feel is this: Like a person who has a tendency for getting headaches, many different things could trigger it. Like with this ribcage pain, many things could trigger it. It is a weak area. I have been off the products for 1 month. However I understand a person detoxing from drugs takes 3-4 months. Could this apply to me too? So many things I don't know. I did have my liver meridian treated and I felt so relaxed. I slept so deeply. It is a benefit for relaxation for a stressed out person. I hope my experience is helpful for someone not relating the soap products to their symptoms. However I still have some irritation there too but not extreme Now if anyone can answer me if can offer a way to help eliminate toxins or irritants such as I mentioned that might be backing up? I read about different naturopathic approaches with herbs but I am interested to know if Chinese medicine can be used. I will ask about it but I would like to know what to ask for. I am interested in starting back to see my acupuncturist because she doesn't know about this occurrence and would be interested. If I have more knowledge it would make a productive next visit. Liz D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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