Guest guest Posted January 11, 2004 Report Share Posted January 11, 2004 Moe: Thank you for the information, I'll look into these. " For this reason, I also think that it's impossible to understand healing without training in both homeopathy and TCM. So, in my mind, the perfect training for energy work, is TCM, horary astrology, TCM, and if you're really serious I Ching. " I am really serious, and the I Ching has led me to healing. My doctor here in China consults the I Ching before seeing patients, and I use this daily. Exploring the I Ching and a great book called " Zhou Yi yu Zhong Yi " I've discovered other Chinese systems, including Qi Men Dun Jia, Liu Ren and Si Zhu. These are based on the Chinese Lunar calendar, the 5 Elements and the Eight Trigrams. Does it matter which system one uses, or is that a matter of preference? What about Vedic Astrology? Thank you, Jack ===== Meta-physician / M.A., M.J., M.L.I.S. www.geocities.com/mojavecowboy/tcmmanual.htm Hotjobs: Enter the " Signing Bonus " Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes./signingbonus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2004 Report Share Posted January 12, 2004 Hi Jack, Personally, I love the I Ching, myself. Vedic astrology seems to be more accurate as to timing, but I have some questions about it's use in other respects. All these systems are languages for describing the movement of energy, which is not static, so the first rule becomes understanding the underlying rulerships, no matter what the system. Some systems, like Black Hat Feng Shui are vacuous and are nothing more than superstition, however it's important to note how powerful superstition and the mind can be together. And more, how individuals can be deluded through the power of their own mind, thinking that the universe or the cosmos bends down to serve them and not vice versa. I spent the day recently with a famous astrologer friend of mine, and asked him what he thought that the universe thought of us. He says, " I don't really know much what the universe may think of you or others, but I don't think that it really considers me much at all. " His view was that the universe provided only snapshots and glimpses into it's inner workings. And the more that he looked into them, the less interest he had in his physical world and surroundings. Ultimately, the losing of self is the restoration of it. Meanwhile, we grasp at straws to maintain an " ideal " which may or may not be of any value in the long term. The type of system that a person chooses, I think determines their path, so it's up to the person to choose well. Better than that, the need to fully choose and not be compelled or forced by fate, or whatever names for it you substitute, constitute integrity. There are people who scoff at TCM, or other systems, whether they are faithbased or not, so my opinion or anyone else's is really of little value. Choose and choose well. In my business, I live in two worlds, the world of quantifiable voice analysis, where the numbers are the numbers, and then a second world where I judge my effectiveness in a given case. It's quite clear that there are no incurable conditions, if you follow Dr. Hamer's work and the work of others who understand that this body was originally built to live forever. Indeed, we're fast approaching the scientific descriptions and laws that may cause us to realize this within our lifetime perhaps. Sadly, and regretfully, there are incurable people, but only due to the conditioning and limitations of their own minds. The body can only follow the mind's direction. And most prefer death to life, though few are conscious or aware that's what they desire. This is the mystique around the stories of yogis who simply abandon their bodies for years at a time, and then return momentarily to converse with loved ones and then leave again. There are many who have done this. Why don't we all do it? Do you know any who have done it? Why aren't the ones who have been " alive " for hundreds of years being made known to us? Imagine how powerful those individuals would be, and how freeing their insights into our current mentality of fear and control based cultures control over us! This is why not all knowledge is yet known. We really aren't very responsible with the knowledge that we already have, and lack mentors or yogis to study from. That's why we create forums like this to trade what small truths we uncover, as we dance together in what we call life. Jack, I think that if I had all the answers, I wouldn't be here. Like you, I'm preparing my receptive nature to hold greater truths. And as Hume says, " the biggest mistake we can make is to throw answers like stones at the heads of those who have not yet asked the questions. " I'm sure that you have experienced this many times, where the answer you supply has landed like a stone, tho it's the very best answer there may be, it's still a weapon unless it's be asked for. being and becoming, Moe At 05:19 PM 1/10/2004, you wrote: >Moe: > >Thank you for the information, I'll look into these. > > " For this reason, I also think that it's >impossible to understand healing without training in >both homeopathy and TCM. So, in my mind, the perfect >training for energy work, is TCM, horary astrology, >TCM, and if you're really serious I Ching. " > >I am really serious, and the I Ching has led me to >healing. My doctor here in China consults the I Ching >before seeing patients, and I use this daily. > >Exploring the I Ching and a great book called " Zhou Yi >yu Zhong Yi " I've discovered other Chinese systems, >including Qi Men Dun Jia, Liu Ren and Si Zhu. These >are based on the Chinese Lunar calendar, the 5 >Elements and the Eight Trigrams. > >Does it matter which system one uses, or is that a >matter of preference? What about Vedic Astrology? > >Thank you, Jack > >===== > >Meta-physician / M.A., M.J., M.L.I.S. > >www.geocities.com/mojavecowboy/tcmmanual.htm > > > > > > > > > > > Hotjobs: Enter the " Signing Bonus " Sweepstakes >http://hotjobs.sweepstakes./signingbonus > > > Post message: Chinese Traditional Medicine > Subscribe: Chinese Traditional Medicine- > Un: Chinese Traditional Medicine- > List owner: Chinese Traditional Medicine-owner > >Shortcut URL to this page: > /community/Chinese Traditional Medicine > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2004 Report Share Posted January 13, 2004 Moe: Thank you for your enlightening reply. Yes, I often find myself in this situation: And as Hume says, " the biggest mistake we can make is to throw answers like stones at the heads of those who have not yet asked the questions. " I'm sure that you have experienced this many times, where the answer you supply has landed like a stone, tho it's the very best answer there may be, it's still a weapon unless it's be asked for. " So I try to find others who can accept the answers and not see them as weapons. Recently I've been trying to put together a theory of answers, to assemble all of these different systems into something more coherent, at least for myself. Jack ===== Meta-physician / M.A., M.J., M.L.I.S. www.geocities.com/mojavecowboy/tcmmanual.htm Hotjobs: Enter the " Signing Bonus " Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes./signingbonus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2004 Report Share Posted January 13, 2004 At 07:23 PM 1/12/2004, you wrote: >And as Hume says, " the biggest mistake we can make is >to throw answers like stones Hi, I was driving today, and I realized that it was a quote from Paul Tillich, easy to confuse like quotes, sorry. Moe FMI http://www.postersfromtheheart.com/Shaking_the_foundations.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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