Guest guest Posted December 20, 2003 Report Share Posted December 20, 2003 I have a bad fracture of both bones in forearm - now pinned and plated, so two big surgical wounds too. I had absolutely no pain in hospital on morphine, even on just a touch at night in addition to the codeine/paracetemol/diclofenac pills 4x daily. First 24hrs at home fine, now 48 hrs pain increasing.I guess effects of the morphine took a while to wear off completely. I have some Yunnan Payao -is that the right thing to take, and OK with the western drugs? Also was doing really well with my post-prandial high insulin symptoms on Jiao gu lan and green tea - would those be OK? Thanks Jackie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2003 Report Share Posted December 20, 2003 In a message dated 12/20/2003 5:10:51 AM Eastern Standard Time, jackie writes: I have some Yunnan Payao -is that the right thing to take, and OK with the western drugs? Its primary application is acute traumatic bleeding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2003 Report Share Posted December 20, 2003 > I have a bad fracture of both bones in forearm - now pinned and plated, so > two big surgical wounds too. I had absolutely no pain in hospital on > morphine, even on just a touch at night in addition to the > codeine/paracetemol/diclofenac pills 4x daily. First 24hrs at home fine, now > 48 hrs pain increasing.I guess effects of the morphine took a while to wear > off completely. > > I have some Yunnan Payao -is that the right thing to take, and OK with the > western drugs? Hi Jackie, Sorry about your accident and surgery. Hope you soon are feeling a lot better. I'm leaving the herb questions to people far more knowledgeable about specific herbs than I am. One thing I want to remind those new to TCM about is that any time someone has a bad accident or surgery, Blood Stasis is a risk. Blood Stasis is recognized as one of the possible Root causes of pain. Qi Stagnation is another, and the two frequently go hand in hand in the case of accidents and/or surgery. You may want to do some research into Blood Stasis and Qi Stagnation. One of the most commonly available herbs for Blood Stasis is chives. A non-TCM treatment that works very well for bruising (one of the manifestations of Blood Stasis) is a salt and apple cider vinegar pack. Don't put the pack on top of the incisions (or on top of wounds) as this could be very painful considering that salt is in the pack. Put it away from the incision (or wound) over areas that are bruised or were bruised. (Bruising can clear up without the Blood Stasis being corrected.) Leave in place for an hour at a time or longer. It's a smelly and not very neat treatment, but it can work wonders in cases of bruising and Blood Stasis. Victoria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2003 Report Share Posted December 21, 2003 Use comfery victoria_dragon <victoria_dragon wrote:> I have a bad fracture of both bones in forearm - now pinned and plated, so > two big surgical wounds too. I had absolutely no pain in hospital on > morphine, even on just a touch at night in addition to the > codeine/paracetemol/diclofenac pills 4x daily. First 24hrs at home fine, now > 48 hrs pain increasing.I guess effects of the morphine took a while to wear > off completely. > > I have some Yunnan Payao -is that the right thing to take, and OK with the > western drugs? Hi Jackie, Sorry about your accident and surgery. Hope you soon are feeling a lot better. I'm leaving the herb questions to people far more knowledgeable about specific herbs than I am. One thing I want to remind those new to TCM about is that any time someone has a bad accident or surgery, Blood Stasis is a risk. Blood Stasis is recognized as one of the possible Root causes of pain. Qi Stagnation is another, and the two frequently go hand in hand in the case of accidents and/or surgery. You may want to do some research into Blood Stasis and Qi Stagnation. One of the most commonly available herbs for Blood Stasis is chives. A non-TCM treatment that works very well for bruising (one of the manifestations of Blood Stasis) is a salt and apple cider vinegar pack. Don't put the pack on top of the incisions (or on top of wounds) as this could be very painful considering that salt is in the pack. Put it away from the incision (or wound) over areas that are bruised or were bruised. (Bruising can clear up without the Blood Stasis being corrected.) Leave in place for an hour at a time or longer. It's a smelly and not very neat treatment, but it can work wonders in cases of bruising and Blood Stasis. Victoria Post message: Chinese Traditional Medicine Subscribe: Chinese Traditional Medicine- Un: Chinese Traditional Medicine- List owner: Chinese Traditional Medicine-owner Shortcut URL to this page: /community/Chinese Traditional Medicine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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