Glycerin prevents remineralisation?

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Please does anyone have info on glycerin in natural toothpastes preventing remineralisation?TIA, Mara

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I too Mara read (can't remember where) I think all of us absorb alot of research and data and also get emailed a ton of stuff it is hard to remember sometimes where we see something. I searched high and low for a toothpaste without glycerin (it wasn't easy either). Even the so called healthy ones have the glycerin. Just to be safe I wanted to ditch the glycerin in my paste, I found one online it is by an Australian based company called Miessence and mostly organic, no flouride, aluminium, or sweetners. I really love it and it comes in an interesting lemon flavor but I'm fond of the mint. They also have fantastic skincare products too.

 

Tammatha

 

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Maracuja

OS

Thursday, May 14, 2009 8:04 PM

Glycerin prevents remineralisation?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Please does anyone have info on glycerin in natural toothpastes preventing remineralisation?TIA, Mara

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Coral White Toothpaste doesn't have any of those bad guys.

I got it at my local health food store.

Or www.coralcalcium.com

Dave

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

oleander soup , " Tammatha " <tammatha wrote:

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> I too Mara read (can't remember where) I think all of us absorb alot of

research and data and also get emailed a ton of stuff it is hard to remember

sometimes where we see something. I searched high and low for a toothpaste

without glycerin (it wasn't easy either). Even the so called healthy ones have

the glycerin. Just to be safe I wanted to ditch the glycerin in my paste, I

found one online it is by an Australian based company called Miessence and

mostly organic, no flouride, aluminium, or sweetners. I really love it and it

comes in an interesting lemon flavor but I'm fond of the mint. They also have

fantastic skincare products too.

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> Tammatha

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> Maracuja

> OS

> Thursday, May 14, 2009 8:04 PM

> Glycerin prevents remineralisation?

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> Please does anyone have info on glycerin in natural toothpastes

preventing remineralisation?

> TIA,

> Mara

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Yes the Coral Toothpaste is good, nice to see more than one without the glycerin thank you for letting us know! Similar ingredients to the Miessence however it doesn't have any organic ingredients which I prefer if I can get it.

 

Tammatha

 

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good22490

oleander soup

Thursday, May 14, 2009 9:02 PM

Re: Glycerin prevents remineralisation?

 

 

Coral White Toothpaste doesn't have any of those bad guys.I got it at my local health food store.Or www.coralcalcium.comDave--- In oleander soup , "Tammatha" <tammatha wrote:>> I too Mara read (can't remember where) I think all of us absorb alot of research and data and also get emailed a ton of stuff it is hard to remember sometimes where we see something. I searched high and low for a toothpaste without glycerin (it wasn't easy either). Even the so called healthy ones have the glycerin. Just to be safe I wanted to ditch the glycerin in my paste, I found one online it is by an Australian based company called Miessence and mostly organic, no flouride, aluminium, or sweetners. I really love it and it comes in an interesting lemon flavor but I'm fond of the mint. They also have fantastic skincare products too.> > Tammatha> - > Maracuja > OS > Thursday, May 14, 2009 8:04 PM> Glycerin prevents remineralisation?> > > > > > Please does anyone have info on glycerin in natural toothpastes preventing remineralisation?> TIA, > Mara>

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Thanks so much for all this information! Let's hope they ship across the Tasman. I used Weleda until I saw the glycerin. Mara--- On Thu, 5/14/09, Tammatha <tammatha wrote:Tammatha <tammathaRe: Re: Glycerin prevents remineralisation?oleander soup Date: Thursday, May 14, 2009, 9:52 PM

 

 

Yes the Coral Toothpaste is good, nice to see more than one without the glycerin thank you for letting us know! Similar ingredients to the Miessence however it doesn't have any organic ingredients which I prefer if I can get it.

 

Tammatha

 

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good22490

oleander soup

Thursday, May 14, 2009 9:02 PM

Re: Glycerin prevents remineralisation?

 

 

Coral White Toothpaste doesn't have any of those bad guys.I got it at my local health food store.Or www.coralcalcium. comDaveoleander soup, "Tammatha" <tammatha@.. .> wrote:>> I too Mara read (can't remember where) I think all of us absorb alot of research and data and also get emailed a ton of stuff it is hard to remember sometimes where we see something. I searched high and low for a toothpaste without glycerin (it wasn't easy either). Even the so called healthy ones have the glycerin. Just to be safe I wanted to ditch the glycerin in my paste, I found one online it is by an Australian based company called Miessence and mostly organic, no flouride, aluminium, or sweetners. I really love it and it comes in an interesting lemon flavor but I'm fond of the mint. They also have fantastic skincare products too.> > Tammatha> - > Maracuja > OS > Thursday, May 14, 2009 8:04 PM> Glycerin prevents remineralisation?> > > > > > Please does anyone have info on glycerin in natural toothpastes preventing remineralisation?> TIA, > Mara>

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Thank you Mara. I will relax. As you can tell, I sometimes tend to overreact to certain things.

Unyquity just sent me a detailed email on how to heal a hernia naturally and I have already implemented the foot reflexology part. We plan to tackle the rest.

And yes, it is so important to pray for all members of the group. I thank you all for praying for one another.

I'll say it again....... We have an exceptional group of people here. We are not just a forum, we are a family.

Hugs,

 

oleander soup , Maracuja <howdurdago wrote:>> Thanks so much for all this information! Let's hope they ship across the Tasman. I used Weleda until I saw the glycerin. > Mara>

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I have read that glycerin does indeed prevent remineralization and that it takes up to a couple of dozen brushings without glycerin to completely get rid of the glycerin coating.

However, I have to wonder how that works with the Utopia Silver colloidal silver skin bars? They contain glycerin on the one hand, but also contain 75 trace minerals (as well as colloidal silver and more). I would think that regardless of the coating some of those minerals would be brushed into the enamel and absorbed . . .

People who use them to brush with have reported elmination of plaque and gum disease. I have to tell ya that the skin bars two of my favorite Utopia Silver Products. I wash my hair and body with both the silver and gold bars and also use the silver bar as an antiseptic hand cleanser and even for brushing my teeth.

oleander soup , Maracuja <howdurdago wrote:>> Please does anyone have info on glycerin in natural toothpastes preventing remineralisation?> TIA, > Mara>

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Glycerin in soap is okay---it is what makes it soap. Literally all commercially

produced soaps are not actually soap, they are detergent, simply because the

glycerin has been removed.

 

Homemade soap has plenty of glycerin in it. ( I make soap, in case you haven't

guessed yet!)

 

I ordered the coral toothpaste, thanks, Dave.

 

You can find recipes for tooth soap online, I believe.

 

It's probably the silver that helps the gums, Tony?

 

Blessings, Jill~

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oleander soup , " lillisilly " <evangelnet

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> Glycerin in soap is okay---it is what makes it soap. Literally all

commercially produced soaps are not actually soap, they are detergent,

simply because the glycerin has been removed.

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> Homemade soap has plenty of glycerin in it. ( I make soap, in case you

haven't guessed yet!)

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> I ordered the coral toothpaste, thanks, Dave.

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> You can find recipes for tooth soap online, I believe.

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> It's probably the silver that helps the gums, Tony?

>

> Blessings, Jill~

>

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Jill,

Where do you buy the lye to make your soap? We cannot buy it around here because it is used in making methamphetamines :~(

 

I've made some lye water from wood ash, but I've not actually made any soap from it yet.

 

Thanks.

Shara

 

 

 

lillisilly <evangelnet

oleander soup

Fri, 15 May 2009 10:57 am

Re: Glycerin prevents remineralisation?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Glycerin in soap is okay---it is what makes it soap. Literally all commercially produced soaps are not actually soap, they are detergent, simply because the glycerin has been removed.

 

Homemade soap has plenty of glycerin in it. ( I make soap, in case you haven't guessed yet!)

 

I ordered the coral toothpaste, thanks, Dave.

 

You can find recipes for tooth soap online, I believe.

 

It's probably the silver that helps the gums, Tony?

 

Blessings, Jill~

 

 

 

 

 

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I've been using the tooth soap from http://www.toothsoap.com/ for years. This

stuff is just absolutely wonderful! The inventor of these formulas specifically

created this tooth soap to taste good, not like normal bar soap. They come in

different flavors, and the whole objective was for them to NOT contain glycerin

or any other harmful ingredients and to be pleasant to use. They use organic

olive oil instead of some cheap byproducts that some of the other companies use

that started copying them. Sometimes when I get the peppermint tooth soap I add

some more peppermint oil to it to make it more minty. You can do that with any

of the flavors. I strongly prefer their liquid tooth soap to their shredded

tooth soap, the liquid ones taste so much better. If you only use a drop or two

of it every time you brush (which is usually all you need) it will last you like

a year or more. They often have " buy one get one free " sales so I always end up

getting a couple bottles at a time, which costs me half of the normal price per

bottle. So it really ends up being very cost effective. The NaturalNews

newsletters contain a discount code at the bottom with a " buy one get one free "

promotion for the tooth soap.

I've converted my friends to this stuff and they love it. This company has so

many other awesome products. I also strongly recommend reading their book about

the tooth soap and natural dental care. The book covers proper brushing

techniques, what not to do in order to not harm the enamel, how to re-mineralize

your teeth, as well as diet and supplements. It's a very holistic approach.

Its not just about what you brush your teeth with, it also has everything to do

with what you put in your body.

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In a message dated 5/15/2009 12:43:06 P.M. Central Daylight Time, tammatha writes:

 

Toothsoap is great but I still like a simple tube of toothpaste, liquids aren't very convenient but thats just me!

 

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I use Dr. Bronner's liquid soap. It's much cheaper than toothsoap. I dilute it with water and a couple drops does the trick.

 

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Toothsoap is great but I still like a simple tube of toothpaste, liquids aren't very convenient but thats just me!

 

Tammatha

 

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Katy

oleander soup

Friday, May 15, 2009 10:26 AM

Re: Glycerin prevents remineralisation?

 

 

I've been using the tooth soap from http://www.toothsoap.com/ for years. This stuff is just absolutely wonderful! The inventor of these formulas specifically created this tooth soap to taste good, not like normal bar soap. They come in different flavors, and the whole objective was for them to NOT contain glycerin or any other harmful ingredients and to be pleasant to use. They use organic olive oil instead of some cheap byproducts that some of the other companies use that started copying them. Sometimes when I get the peppermint tooth soap I add some more peppermint oil to it to make it more minty. You can do that with any of the flavors. I strongly prefer their liquid tooth soap to their shredded tooth soap, the liquid ones taste so much better. If you only use a drop or two of it every time you brush (which is usually all you need) it will last you like a year or more. They often have "buy one get one fre! e" sales so I always end up getting a couple bottles at a time, which costs me half of the normal price per bottle. So it really ends up being very cost effective. The NaturalNews newsletters contain a discount code at the bottom with a "buy one get one free" promotion for the tooth soap.I've converted my friends to this stuff and they love it. This company has so many other awesome products. I also strongly recommend reading their book about the tooth soap and natural dental care. The book covers proper brushing techniques, what not to do in order to not harm the enamel, how to re-mineralize your teeth, as well as diet and supplements. It's a very holistic approach. Its not just about what you brush your teeth with, it also has everything to do with what you put in your body.

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Shara wrote:

 

* Where do you buy the lye to make your soap?? We cannot buy it around here

because it is used in making methamphetamines? :~( *

 

Try The Chemistry Store, an online supplier. You have to sign a form stating

what you will be using the lye for.

 

Blessings, Jill

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Thanks Jill!

 

Shara

 

 

 

lillisilly <evangelnet

oleander soup

Fri, 15 May 2009 3:31 pm

Re: Glycerin prevents remineralisation?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Shara wrote:

 

* Where do you buy the lye to make your soap?? We cannot buy it around here because it is used in making methamphetamines? :~( *

 

Try The Chemistry Store, an online supplier. You have to sign a form stating what you will be using the lye for.

 

Blessings, Jill

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I finally found an explanation indicating how glycerin prevents teeth from

re-enamaling:

 

Research....I discovered through in the book " Good Teeth from Birth to Death " by

Dr. Gerard F. Judd, Ph.D., Chemistry and Fluoride Researcher that bar soap was

actually one of his recommendations to good strong teeth.

 

This is an excerpt from that book: " Re-enamelization of the teeth occurs when

they are clean. All toothpaste make a barrier of glycerine on the teeth which

would require 20 rinses to get it off. A good solution for clean teeth, which I

have used for 5 years, is bar soap. Wet the brush, swipe the bar two or three

times with it, then brush the teeth thoroughly and the gums gently. Rinse with

water three or four times. All oils are washed off the teeth and the gums are

disinfected. The bacteria are killed by the soap. The teeth are then ready for

re-enamelization with calcium and phosphate in the diet. The enzyme adenosine

diphosphatase delivers phosphate to the enamel surface. Do not use liquid soaps.

Their different composition is harmful to the protoplasm.

 

Re-enamelization is necessary on a daily basis because the enamel leaches

slightly with water as well as the bones over decades leading to holey bones and

holey teeth even in the absence of acid attack. Without re-enamelization, we

could never have good teeth. "

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Thank you so much for that. The Utopia silver soap is too dear to import. I was going to use Bronner's or the Mountain Rose liquid soap. (I buy their oils so it is worth getting their soap when it is on special when I order.) Have just been using water and a herb tincture containing myrrh. I use hard soaps that are OK for eczema. I do need to rotate them, but have never used them for teeth. Hmm, that's a head thing I need to overcome! LOL.That is so interesting re the holey bones and teeth. I once had a holey tooth from the INSIDE! The osteoclasts were far more active than the osteoblasts which produce new bone in the form of osteoid. The o/clasts get rid of the defunct bone tissue. The trick was in finding a balance as usual! I always believed tooth decay was systemic and an indication of bone health. Lucky my holistic dentist spotted it..

He was intuitive and could tell a lot from just the gentle tap on a tooth. No xrays needed! He had one other patient with the same in his 30 yr career.--- On Sun, 5/17/09, roxgrubb <roxgrubb wrote:roxgrubb <roxgrubb Re: Glycerin prevents remineralisation?oleander soup Date: Sunday, May 17, 2009, 6:21 PM

 

I finally found an explanation indicating how glycerin prevents teeth from re-enamaling:

 

Research.... I discovered through in the book "Good Teeth from Birth to Death" by Dr. Gerard F. Judd, Ph.D., Chemistry and Fluoride Researcher that bar soap was actually one of his recommendations to good strong teeth.

 

This is an excerpt from that book: "Re-enamelization of the teeth occurs when they are clean. All toothpaste make a barrier of glycerine on the teeth which would require 20 rinses to get it off. A good solution for clean teeth, which I have used for 5 years, is bar soap. Wet the brush, swipe the bar two or three times with it, then brush the teeth thoroughly and the gums gently. Rinse with water three or four times. All oils are washed off the teeth and the gums are disinfected. The bacteria are killed by the soap. The teeth are then ready for re-enamelization with calcium and phosphate in the diet. The enzyme adenosine diphosphatase delivers phosphate to the enamel surface. Do not use liquid soaps. Their different composition is harmful to the protoplasm.

 

Re-enamelization is necessary on a daily basis because the enamel leaches slightly with water as well as the bones over decades leading to holey bones and holey teeth even in the absence of acid attack. Without re-enamelization, we could never have good teeth."

[Guest guest]

Wow Roxgrubb.

 

The best explonation ever !!!!!!

 

Altghough Tony has said many times, that to really clean your teeth after you bruched them with normal tooth paste, you need to go over 20 times.

 

The rest was very good info.

Have a nice day , Hugs Mary

 

 

 

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roxgrubb

oleander soup

Monday, May 18, 2009 11:21 AM

Re: Glycerin prevents remineralisation?

 

 

I finally found an explanation indicating how glycerin prevents teeth from re-enamaling:Research....I discovered through in the book "Good Teeth from Birth to Death" by Dr. Gerard F. Judd, Ph.D., Chemistry and Fluoride Researcher that bar soap was actually one of his recommendations to good strong teeth.This is an excerpt from that book: "Re-enamelization of the teeth occurs when they are clean. All toothpaste make a barrier of glycerine on the teeth which would require 20 rinses to get it off. A good solution for clean teeth, which I have used for 5 years, is bar soap. Wet the brush, swipe the bar two or three times with it, then brush the teeth thoroughly and the gums gently. Rinse with water three or four times. All oils are washed off the teeth and the gums are disinfected. The bacteria are killed by the soap. The teeth are then ready for re-enamelization with calcium and phosphate in the diet. The enzyme adenosine diphosphatase delivers phosphate to the enamel surface. Do not use liquid soaps. Their different composition is harmful to the protoplasm.Re-enamelization is necessary on a daily basis because the enamel leaches slightly with water as well as the bones over decades leading to holey bones and holey teeth even in the absence of acid attack. Without re-enamelization, we could never have good teeth."

[Guest guest]

I am not so sure that soap kills bacteria. Unless it contains an antibacterial

ingredient, soap facilitates the sanitation of things by creating a lubricant

effect that combined with the friction of rubbing or scrubbing causes bacteria

to be removed from whatever you are cleaning. One of the reasons that liquid

pump soaps are used is to prevent picking up bacteria from the people who used a

bar of soap before you.

 

But tooth soap is still the way to go.

 

As I said, REAL soap does have glycerin in it, so I don't know if that would

still be deposited on the teeth?

 

Hydrogen peroxide will kill bacteria in the mouth and on the teeth.

 

Blessings, Jill~

[Guest guest]

lillisilly,

 

If the lye used to make soap is still in the final product it should

kill any bacteria. I'm not sure it is myself.

 

Bob

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" lillisilly " <evangelnet

<oleander soup >

Monday, May 18, 2009 5:46 AM

Re: Glycerin prevents remineralisation?

 

 

>I am not so sure that soap kills bacteria. Unless it contains an

>antibacterial ingredient, soap facilitates the sanitation of things by

>creating a lubricant effect that combined with the friction of rubbing or

>scrubbing causes bacteria to be removed from whatever you are cleaning. One

>of the reasons that liquid pump soaps are used is to prevent picking up

>bacteria from the people who used a bar of soap before you.

>

> But tooth soap is still the way to go.

>

> As I said, REAL soap does have glycerin in it, so I don't know if that

> would still be deposited on the teeth?

>

> Hydrogen peroxide will kill bacteria in the mouth and on the teeth.

>

> Blessings, Jill~

>

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[Guest guest]

If it is a well made soap, it won't have any lye left. My skin can soon tell if there is any lye in home made soaps!Is there any reason why the mechanical action of a soft brush with no paste or soap wouldn't work? Also I don't want to give 2yr old H2O2 or salt as he hasn't mastered spitting. [Will practice with watermelon seeds next summer! Heh heh!] Meantime we "spit" water and a tiny spot of colloidal silver into the bath. He has never had a visible "film" round his gum line, but sadly he has just self-weaned, and that might change.Mara--- On Mon, 5/18/09, Bob Banever <bbanever wrote:Bob Banever <bbaneverRe: Re: Glycerin prevents

remineralisation?oleander soup Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 6:38 AM

 

lillisilly,

 

If the lye used to make soap is still in the final product it should

kill any bacteria. I'm not sure it is myself.

 

Bob

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"lillisilly" <evangelnet (AT) vtlink (DOT) net>

<oleander soup>

Monday, May 18, 2009 5:46 AM

Re: Glycerin prevents remineralisation?

 

>I am not so sure that soap kills bacteria. Unless it contains an

>antibacterial ingredient, soap facilitates the sanitation of things by

>creating a lubricant effect that combined with the friction of rubbing or

>scrubbing causes bacteria to be removed from whatever you are cleaning. One

>of the reasons that liquid pump soaps are used is to prevent picking up

>bacteria from the people who used a bar of soap before you.

>

> But tooth soap is still the way to go.

>

> As I said, REAL soap does have glycerin in it, so I don't know if that

> would still be deposited on the teeth?

>

> Hydrogen peroxide will kill bacteria in the mouth and on the teeth.

>

> Blessings, Jill~

>

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[Guest guest]

Maracuja,

 

If you're trying to kill bacteria in the mouth then a simple rinse or brushing with colloidal silver should do the trick, especially if it is done regularly. Make sure his diet is wholesome with very little sugar and other chemicals.

 

Bob

 

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Maracuja

oleander soup

Monday, May 18, 2009 5:33 PM

Re: Re: Glycerin prevents remineralisation?

 

 

 

 

If it is a well made soap, it won't have any lye left. My skin can soon tell if there is any lye in home made soaps!Is there any reason why the mechanical action of a soft brush with no paste or soap wouldn't work? Also I don't want to give 2yr old H2O2 or salt as he hasn't mastered spitting. [Will practice with watermelon seeds next summer! Heh heh!] Meantime we "spit" water and a tiny spot of colloidal silver into the bath. He has never had a visible "film" round his gum line, but sadly he has just self-weaned, and that might change.Mara--- On Mon, 5/18/09, Bob Banever <bbanever wrote:

Bob Banever <bbaneverRe: Re: Glycerin prevents remineralisation?oleander soup Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 6:38 AM

 

 

lillisilly,If the lye used to make soap is still in the final product it should kill any bacteria. I'm not sure it is myself.Bob- "lillisilly" <evangelnet (AT) vtlink (DOT) net><oleander soup>Monday, May 18, 2009 5:46 AM Re: Glycerin prevents remineralisation?>I am not so sure that soap kills bacteria. Unless it contains an >antibacterial ingredient, soap facilitates the sanitation of things by >creating a lubricant effect that combined with the friction of rubbing or >scrubbing causes bacteria to be removed from whatever you are cleaning. One >of the reasons that liquid pump soaps are used is to prevent picking up >bacteria from the people who used a bar of soap before you.>> But tooth soap is still the way to go.>> As I said, REAL soap does have glycerin in it, so I don't know if that > would still be deposited on the teeth?>> Hydrogen peroxide will kill bacteria in the mouth and on the teeth.>> Blessings, Jill~>>>> ------------ --------- --------- ------>>

[Guest guest]

Just to clarify---there should be NO lye in a finished bar of soap. Lye kills

everything---and it would be murder to your skin if the soap had lye in it. Lye

BURNS!

 

Soap is made by combining lye and oils. When this is done in the correct

proportions, the lye and the oils combine in a process called " saponification "

and become something different---soap!

 

HTH!

 

Blessings, Jill~

[Guest guest]

We make our own soap and use coconut oil and olive oil and lye and lavander essential oil and of course water. Will that clean and disinfect? If I add glycerin, will it take away the antibacterial components of the ingredients?

 

Thanks.

 

Melly