Guest guest Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Hi group. I made my own Oleander soup according to the receipe. I recently began to take it due to a " lesion " in my lung. My ND wanted me to take B17, but, I thought, I have this here already and I don't have $$ for B17, so I decided to go oleander first. If I remember correctly I should see results in one month. It has been 10 days now. My question is...I am experiencing diarrhea from it. Am I taking too much? Could I have made it too strong?. Has anyone else encountered this problem? No nausea or tingling.. I have reduced my dosage from taking it two to three times a day to once. Perhaps I should just take less, like a tsp instead of a Tablespoon? Any thoughts from the group? I am also fighting Lyme, viruses and mercury, so any of those could be causing problems too, but this is a new symptom, just since the oleander was started. So far my only other treatments have been nutritional and colloidal silver. Debi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 i buy organic raw apricot kernals at the HFStore to get B17 (...that's laetrile, if i remember correctly?). pretty cheap that way, and likely far better than none. there's websites all about using apricot kernals. i just use two/day ground up with my other nuts & seeds. sorry, i don't know how to answer about dosage. > > oleander soup > oleander soup On Behalf Of Debra > Anderson Loven > Wednesday, May 13, 2009 6:28 PM > oleander soup > dosages? > > Hi group. > I made my own Oleander soup according to the receipe. I > recently began to take it due to a " lesion " in my lung. My ND > wanted me to take B17, but, I thought, I have this here > already and I don't have $$ for B17, so I decided to go > oleander first. If I remember correctly I should see results > in one month. It has been 10 days now. My question is...I am > experiencing diarrhea from it. Am I taking too much? Could I > have made it too strong?. Has anyone else encountered this > problem? No nausea or tingling.. I have reduced my dosage > from taking it two to three times a day to once. Perhaps I > should just take less, like a tsp instead of a Tablespoon? > Any thoughts from the group? I am also fighting Lyme, viruses > and mercury, so any of those could be causing problems too, > but this is a new symptom, just since the oleander was > started. So far my only other treatments have been > nutritional and colloidal silver. > Debi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 Hi Debi, Diarrhea is a side effect that can arise when first starting to take Oleander. You are doing the right thing. Go back on the dosage and when the diarrhea subsides then go back up slowly. If you feel the diarrhea starting again, just stop the dosage where you are at and resume again once it subsides. Hugs, oleander soup , "Debra Anderson Loven" <dloven1 wrote:>> Hi group.> I made my own Oleander soup according to the receipe. I recently began to take it due to a "lesion" in my lung. My ND wanted me to take B17, but, I thought, I have this here already and I don't have $$ for B17, so I decided to go oleander first. If I remember correctly I should see results in one month. It has been 10 days now. My question is...I am experiencing diarrhea from it. Am I taking too much? Could I have made it too strong?. Has anyone else encountered this problem? No nausea or tingling.. I have reduced my dosage from taking it two to three times a day to once. Perhaps I should just take less, like a tsp instead of a Tablespoon? Any thoughts from the group? I am also fighting Lyme, viruses and mercury, so any of those could be causing problems too, but this is a new symptom, just since the oleander was started. So far my only other treatments have been nutritional and colloidal silver.> Debi> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 Hi Debi, Liz here quess I started about the same time you did and I am having diarreah that just started 2 days ago but stopped today on its own. I am taking a tablespoon 3 time a day. Can I ask how much Silver do you take? I haven't taken it regularly do you? Wonder if I should. I'm looking for a trampoline at the moment for my neck gland they have not gone down in size yet and hurt a little.--- Hugs Liz : ) --- On Thu, 5/14/09, May <luellamay129 wrote: May <luellamay129 Re: dosages?oleander soup Date: Thursday, May 14, 2009, 12:48 AM Hi Debi, Diarrhea is a side effect that can arise when first starting to take Oleander. You are doing the right thing. Go back on the dosage and when the diarrhea subsides then go back up slowly. If you feel the diarrhea starting again, just stop the dosage where you are at and resume again once it subsides. Hugs, oleander soup, "Debra Anderson Loven" <dloven1 wrote:>> Hi group.> I made my own Oleander soup according to the receipe. I recently began to take it due to a "lesion" in my lung. My ND wanted me to take B17, but, I thought, I have this here already and I don't have $$ for B17, so I decided to go oleander first. If I remember correctly I should see results in one month. It has been 10 days now. My question is...I am experiencing diarrhea from it. Am I taking too much? Could I have made it too strong?. Has anyone else encountered this problem? No nausea or tingling.. I have reduced my dosage from taking it two to three times a day to once. Perhaps I should just take less, like a tsp instead of a Tablespoon? Any thoughts from the group? I am also fighting Lyme, viruses and mercury, so any of those could be causing problems too, but this is a new symptom, just since the oleander was started. So far my only other treatments have been nutritional and colloidal silver.> Debi> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 Hi Liz, With regard to your colloidal silver question, I recommend that everybody take colloidal silver daily. It builds the immune system, is good against many conditions and prevents infections. You will never get sick taking it daily. With regard to your tumor hurting. Is this a new thing since taking the oleander? If it is, oleander can make the tumor hurt. And this is a good thing. It means it's working. All those toxins are starting to come out. Hugs, oleander soup , Liz Clifton <free2roamliz wrote:>> Hi Debi,> Liz here quess I started about the same time you did and I am having diarreah that just started 2 days ago but stopped today on its own. I am taking a tablespoon 3 time a day. Can I ask how much Silver do you take?> I haven't taken it regularly do you? Wonder if I should. I'm looking for a trampoline at the moment for my neck gland they have not gone down in size yet and hurt a little.---> Hugs Liz : ) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 i don't know either ... good question! ________________________________ oleander soup oleander soup On Behalf Of Liz Clifton Wednesday, May 13, 2009 10:23 PM oleander soup RE: dosages? Hi Liz here , Just want to ask if it is ok to take the appricot kernels at the same time as the Oleander cause I was taking it before I started with the oleander but was afraid to continue. thanx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 Hi Liz, Yes........ It's okay. Hugs, oleander soup , Liz Clifton <free2roamliz wrote:>> Hi Liz here ,> Just want to ask if it is ok to take the appricot kernels at the same time as the Oleander> cause I was taking it before I started with the oleander but was afraid to continue.> thanx > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 Hi Liz and Bob. As far as i know you can take oleander and the apricot 2 hours apartfrom each other. Hope this helps Hugs Mary - bob Larson oleander soup Thursday, May 14, 2009 12:36 PM RE: dosages? i don't know either ... good question!________________________________oleander soup [oleander soup ] On Behalf Of Liz CliftonWednesday, May 13, 2009 10:23 PMoleander soup Subject: RE: dosages?Hi Liz here ,Just want to ask if it is ok to take the appricot kernels at thesame time as the Oleandercause I was taking it before I started with the oleander but wasafraid to continue.thanx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 Hi Liz, Thanks for the reply... I feel extremely toxic today...maybe it is a good cleaning out of tumor junk? Plus, I was bad and indulged in chocolate yesterday, something my ND told me not to do. Let's hope it is a die-off reaction...I have taken CS daily for about 5 months off and on since the diagnosis. It was the prescription for Lyme and the viruses I had/have. I find I have no trouble at all with it. My energy has come up, but not as much as I had hoped. But, then, there is the lesion which is probably secreting tumor poison and will make you feel dreadful. So, whereas I felt the Lyme needed addressing first, now I am tackling the lesion. I am finding it hard to do all the things I know I must. Take these in the morning, these at night, this before meals, this after meals..it is exhausting! Right now, I am at the point of despondency. I feel rough, I can't even look for a job, it is just not possible to work like I feel right now. Part of the trouble is, I just learned that I can be getting the Lyme back from my husband...he doesn't feel bad and tested negative so he isn't compliant with the colloidal silver. It feels like I am starting all over. I guess I just wanted to be sure that this will be worth the effort. If I had made the OE soup wrong or needed to change my dose, I hoped I would find those answers here. I am going to add some potassium today, maybe that will perk me up some...Thanks for this group, I have learned a lot here.I will beat this...I have done it before and I will do it again, just having a down day.--- In oleander soup , Liz Clifton <free2roamliz wrote: > > Hi Debi, > Liz here quess I started about the same time you did and I am having diarreah that just started 2 days ago but stopped today on its own. I am taking a tablespoon 3 time a day. Can I ask how much Silver do you take? > I haven't taken it regularly do you? Wonder if I should. I'm looking for a trampoline at the moment for my neck gland they have not gone down in size yet and hurt a little.--- > Hugs Liz : ) > > --- On Thu, 5/14/09, May <luellamay129 wrote: > > > May <luellamay129 > Re: dosages? > oleander soup > Thursday, May 14, 2009, 12:48 AM > > > Hi Debi, > Diarrhea is a side effect that can arise when first starting to take Oleander. You are doing the right thing. Go back on the dosage and when the diarrhea subsides then go back up slowly. If you feel the diarrhea starting again, just stop the dosage where you are at and resume again once it subsides. > Hugs, > > oleander soup, " Debra Anderson Loven " <dloven1@> wrote: > > > > Hi group. > > I made my own Oleander soup according to the receipe. I recently began to take it due to a " lesion " in my lung. My ND wanted me to take B17, but, I thought, I have this here already and I don't have $$ for B17, so I decided to go oleander first. If I remember correctly I should see results in one month. It has been 10 days now. My question is...I am experiencing diarrhea from it. Am I taking too much? Could I have made it too strong?. Has anyone else encountered this problem? No nausea or tingling.. I have reduced my dosage from taking it two to three times a day to once. Perhaps I should just take less, like a tsp instead of a Tablespoon? Any thoughts from the group? I am also fighting Lyme, viruses and mercury, so any of those could be causing problems too, but this is a new symptom, just since the oleander was started. So far my only other treatments have been nutritional and colloidal silver. > > Debi > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 Hi Debi, Making Oleander Soup is rather easy. You just have to follow the directions precisely. I am so sorry that you are having a down day, but with what you are going through it is understandable. Yet, it is very important that you take all those supplements to regain your health. I would not wait to start on the Oleander. You can tackle the lesion while also addressing the Lyme. How much colloidal silver are you taking, as it is very effective against Lyme Disease. Here is a post that Tony made on Curezone with regard to Colloidal Silver and Lyme's Disease: The very best colloidal silvers will absolutely kill Lymes - Utopia Silver has a number of testimonials from Lymes sufferers who are now Lymes free. The same is true for Crohn's, MSRA and many other conditions. The key is that for the toughest illnesses and the systemic ones, you need to take a LOT of colloidal silver and perhaps for an extended time. Sutherlandia OPC, iodine, olive leaf extract, plant derived trace minerals and oil of oregano along with a very healthy diet and lifestyle, and whatever supplementation it may take to insure you get adequate essential vitamins, minerals and overall nutrition would be good ideas to include as well. Hope this helps. Hugs, oleander soup , "Debra Anderson Loven" <dloven1 wrote:>> Hi Liz, Thanks for the reply...> I feel extremely toxic today...maybe it is a good cleaning out of tumor junk? Plus, I was bad and indulged in chocolate yesterday, something my ND told me not to do. Let's hope it is a die-off reaction...I have taken CS daily for about 5 months off and on since the diagnosis. It was the prescription for Lyme and the viruses I had/have. I find I have no trouble at all with it. My energy has come up, but not as much as I had hoped. But, then, there is the lesion which is probably secreting tumor poison and will make you feel dreadful. So, whereas I felt the Lyme needed addressing first, now I am tackling the lesion. I am finding it hard to do all the things I know I must. Take these in the morning, these at night, this before meals, this after meals..it is exhausting! Right now, I am at the point of despondency. I feel rough, I can't even look for a job, it is just not possible to work like I feel right now. Part of the trouble is, I just learned that I can be getting the Lyme back from my husband...he doesn't feel bad and tested negative so he isn't compliant with the colloidal silver. It feels like I am starting all over. I guess I just wanted to be sure that this will be worth the effort. If I had made the OE soup wrong or needed to change my dose, I hoped I would find those answers here. I am going to add some potassium today, maybe that will perk me up some...Thanks for this group, I have learned a lot here.I will beat this...I have done it before and I will do it again, just having a down day.--- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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