Dosage and Time

[Guest guest]

Hey Tony,

 

I did the 5 day liver cleanse ending on Saturday April 11. The following Monday

I started the OPC, and had already started using Iodine March 31. Except for 3

days when I was sick I have used the OPC every day since April 13. That makes it

21 days counting today (Sunday, May 3) minus the 3 days. I can actually see part

of the tumor in my throat and it does not appear to be getting any smaller. I

started out taking 1 teaspoon 3x a day, one with each meal. I am now up to 2

teaspoons 3 times a day with each meal. I have a few questions.

 

1. How long does it usually take to start seeing results with the OPC. I am also

taking vit B complex, D3, Selenium in the form of Methylselenocysteine, and

Immpower - a form of AHCC, colloidal silver water, and occasionally MMS. I also

have the full Bob Beck protocol.

 

About dosage, I just noticed that you recommend taking the OPC twice a day,

breakfast and lunch, even when taking 3 teaspoons a day. I have been use to

spreading the dosages out of most things so that there remains a constant level

of whatever I'm taking in my blood. Is it more effective to take the OPC 2x a

day, breakfast and lunch and why? Is it mostly for convenience? I planned on

trying to get to 3 teaspoons 3x a day. Is 6 teaspoons the maximum dosage? And

would it be better to take it 2x a day or spread it out to 3x a day? This tumor

is affecting my speech, and I have a lot of phlegm. Could the OPC be causing the

formation of phlegm?

I know lots of questions. I really need to reduce the size of this tumor. Any

suggestions? It is Squameous cell cancer in the base of my tongue. But it seems

to have gotten larger and there is now what I would call a small " finger " like

projection from the right side of my throat laying half way across my tongue in

the very back of my throat. Also the arched area in the back of my throat is

stretched down quite a bit especially on the right side. About once a week I

cough out what looks like a small round ball of swollen taste buds, could be

part of the tumor, but when they first looked at my throat they said that the

taste buds were swollen and rough on the part of my tongue that is down in my

throat.

 

Thanks for the advice,

 

Matthew Moore

[Guest guest]

Matthew, I believe you need to take Vit E with the selenium to get the

absorption you need.

Blessings, Jill~

[Guest guest]

Hey Jill,

 

Actually the brand of Selenium I use has vitamins B2 and E added, it's called

SeleNext by Jarrow formulas. Thanks for the input.

 

Matthew Moore

 

 

oleander soup , " lillisilly " <evangelnet wrote:

>

> Matthew, I believe you need to take Vit E with the selenium to get the

absorption you need.

> Blessings, Jill~

>

[Guest guest]

The maximum amount of oleander extract made at home according to directions is ONE TABLESPOON three times a day. With the OPC extract you can take as much as 15 ml three times a day. Either the capsules or the liquid can be divided up into three daily doses or two - it really should not matter.

When you take the oleander extract, do you take at least part of the dose sublinqually? If it were me, I would take half the dose that way and then gargle it for as long as you can before swallowing. I would also gargle the colloidal silver and see if I could paint part of my daily dose of iodine on the cancer. Perhaps also gargle and/or paint the Blood Support tonic if you have that (depending upon instructions) as well as the blackseed oil (nigella sativa).

Are you taking any baking soda? That too would be an item to gargle at the site of the cancer, and is one area where I believe baking soda can be most beneficial.

Now, when it comes to the time for oleander to be effective, that varies by individual. Many begin to notice differences in as little as a couple of weeks, whereas it takes as much as two or three months or longer for others. Oleander generally does not work overnight on eliminating tumors (unlike say Inositol/IP6 which sometimes helps get rid of tumors in short order). You build up the doseage and also the oleander builds up in the body.

When successfull, as it usually is, the first thing that happens is that oleander begins to slow down the rate of tumor growth. Next, there should come a point when the growth rate has been stopped altogether. And finally, the tumor will begin to reduce in size and continue doing so until it is either gone or reduced to a small benign mass. Pancreatic/digestive enzymes may help remove any remaining fibroid tissue - and may help in eliminating the tumor to begin with too.

I am not aware of oleander causing increased mucous.

All the best and please keep us posted,

oleander soup , "matthewalanmoore" <poppers5 wrote:>> Hey Tony,> > I did the 5 day liver cleanse ending on Saturday April 11. The following Monday I started the OPC, and had already started using Iodine March 31. Except for 3 days when I was sick I have used the OPC every day since April 13. That makes it 21 days counting today (Sunday, May 3) minus the 3 days. I can actually see part of the tumor in my throat and it does not appear to be getting any smaller. I started out taking 1 teaspoon 3x a day, one with each meal. I am now up to 2 teaspoons 3 times a day with each meal. I have a few questions.> > 1. How long does it usually take to start seeing results with the OPC. I am also taking vit B complex, D3, Selenium in the form of Methylselenocysteine, and Immpower - a form of AHCC, colloidal silver water, and occasionally MMS. I also have the full Bob Beck protocol. > > About dosage, I just noticed that you recommend taking the OPC twice a day, breakfast and lunch, even when taking 3 teaspoons a day. I have been use to spreading the dosages out of most things so that there remains a constant level of whatever I'm taking in my blood. Is it more effective to take the OPC 2x a day, breakfast and lunch and why? Is it mostly for convenience? I planned on trying to get to 3 teaspoons 3x a day. Is 6 teaspoons the maximum dosage? And would it be better to take it 2x a day or spread it out to 3x a day? This tumor is affecting my speech, and I have a lot of phlegm. Could the OPC be causing the formation of phlegm?> I know lots of questions. I really need to reduce the size of this tumor. Any suggestions? It is Squameous cell cancer in the base of my tongue. But it seems to have gotten larger and there is now what I would call a small "finger" like projection from the right side of my throat laying half way across my tongue in the very back of my throat. Also the arched area in the back of my throat is stretched down quite a bit especially on the right side. About once a week I cough out what looks like a small round ball of swollen taste buds, could be part of the tumor, but when they first looked at my throat they said that the taste buds were swollen and rough on the part of my tongue that is down in my throat.> > Thanks for the advice,> > Matthew Moore>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Tony, that was a wonderfully detailed answer. It's been 2.5 years worth

of protocols, with each one saying it will work in 2 to 3 months, some a little

longer some a little less. I know it takes time to do things the alternative

way, but part of me would love to get a blow torch and burn this thing out once

and for all, show it who's boss! Of course that might hurt a little bit. I am

going to order the Inositol/IP6 in the next few days. I've been waiting until I

ran out of the Immpower (AHCC)of which I had just purchased 10 bottles of when I

started the OPC.

I have been putting the iodine (8 drops) in 2 tablespoons of water and let some

of it sit under my tongue as long as possible and gargle with the rest. I have

not done that with the OPC, but I'll start that today. It would be really hard

to " paint " the iodine or OPC on the tumor. Some of it is in the part of the

tongue that is down in the throat. At back of my throat, where the two arches

are with the choke bag in the center, the right side is stretched down, and the

part of the tumor I can see is " hiding " behind that. My tongue is swollen on

that side as well. I would need one hand to hold a flashlight, one to depress my

tongue and a third to paint the tumor as I breath in and try to lift that right

side " vail " . Hmmmm, too much info. I think.

So for now I'll gargle, and hold the OPC and Iodine under my tongue. In the past

you also recommended I take NAC. I don't see that on the protocol page. Where do

I order that from?

 

Thanks again Tony, I really appreciate the help.

 

Matthew Moore

 

 

oleander soup , " Tony " wrote:

>

>

> The maximum amount of oleander extract made at home according to

> directions is ONE TABLESPOON three times a day. With the OPC extract

> you can take as much as 15 ml three times a day. Either the capsules or

> the liquid can be divided up into three daily doses or two - it really

> should not matter.

>

> When you take the oleander extract, do you take at least part of the

> dose sublinqually? If it were me, I would take half the dose that way

> and then gargle it for as long as you can before swallowing. I would

> also gargle the colloidal silver and see if I could paint part of my

> daily dose of iodine on the cancer. Perhaps also gargle and/or paint

> the Blood Support tonic if you have that (depending upon instructions)

> as well as the blackseed oil (nigella sativa).

>

> Are you taking any baking soda? That too would be an item to gargle at

> the site of the cancer, and is one area where I believe baking soda can

> be most beneficial.

>

> Now, when it comes to the time for oleander to be effective, that varies

> by individual. Many begin to notice differences in as little as a

> couple of weeks, whereas it takes as much as two or three months or

> longer for others. Oleander generally does not work overnight on

> eliminating tumors (unlike say Inositol/IP6 which sometimes helps get

> rid of tumors in short order). You build up the doseage and also the

> oleander builds up in the body.

>

> When successfull, as it usually is, the first thing that happens is that

> oleander begins to slow down the rate of tumor growth. Next, there

> should come a point when the growth rate has been stopped altogether.

> And finally, the tumor will begin to reduce in size and continue doing

> so until it is either gone or reduced to a small benign mass.

> Pancreatic/digestive enzymes may help remove any remaining fibroid

> tissue - and may help in eliminating the tumor to begin with too.

>

> I am not aware of oleander causing increased mucous.

>

> All the best and please keep us posted,

>

>

> >

>

> oleander soup , " matthewalanmoore " <poppers5@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Hey Tony,

> >

> > I did the 5 day liver cleanse ending on Saturday April 11. The

> following Monday I started the OPC, and had already started using Iodine

> March 31. Except for 3 days when I was sick I have used the OPC every

> day since April 13. That makes it 21 days counting today (Sunday, May 3)

> minus the 3 days. I can actually see part of the tumor in my throat and

> it does not appear to be getting any smaller. I started out taking 1

> teaspoon 3x a day, one with each meal. I am now up to 2 teaspoons 3

> times a day with each meal. I have a few questions.

> >

> > 1. How long does it usually take to start seeing results with the OPC.

> I am also taking vit B complex, D3, Selenium in the form of

> Methylselenocysteine, and Immpower - a form of AHCC, colloidal silver

> water, and occasionally MMS. I also have the full Bob Beck protocol.

> >

> > About dosage, I just noticed that you recommend taking the OPC twice a

> day, breakfast and lunch, even when taking 3 teaspoons a day. I have

> been use to spreading the dosages out of most things so that there

> remains a constant level of whatever I'm taking in my blood. Is it more

> effective to take the OPC 2x a day, breakfast and lunch and why? Is it

> mostly for convenience? I planned on trying to get to 3 teaspoons 3x a

> day. Is 6 teaspoons the maximum dosage? And would it be better to take

> it 2x a day or spread it out to 3x a day? This tumor is affecting my

> speech, and I have a lot of phlegm. Could the OPC be causing the

> formation of phlegm?

> > I know lots of questions. I really need to reduce the size of this

> tumor. Any suggestions? It is Squameous cell cancer in the base of my

> tongue. But it seems to have gotten larger and there is now what I would

> call a small " finger " like projection from the right side of my throat

> laying half way across my tongue in the very back of my throat. Also the

> arched area in the back of my throat is stretched down quite a bit

> especially on the right side. About once a week I cough out what looks

> like a small round ball of swollen taste buds, could be part of the

> tumor, but when they first looked at my throat they said that the taste

> buds were swollen and rough on the part of my tongue that is down in my

> throat.

> >

> > Thanks for the advice,

> >

> > Matthew Moore

> >

>