Guest guest Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 Hi all, I have been watching this forum for several months now and this is my 1st posting. My wife contracted breast cancer in April 2007 and went through usual chemo and radio therapy. She is now on the Arimidex tablet for the next 5 years. She is sleeping a lot and off her food. The inactivity is also making her put on weight which is counter productive to say the least. I found your site some months ago and have tried to talk Brenda into not taking the Arimidex, but she is to frightened to stop. Does anyone on this forum have any experience of this tablet and could oleander help with the side effects of this `remedy.' Any help would be appreciated Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 Hi Mike, Welcome! I really don't know if Oleander would help with the side effects of Arimidex, but it certainly cannot hurt. Actually, it would help with one of the side effects, which is fibromyalgia. However, Oleander would only be of benefit to her. Oleander is over 90% effective against all types of cancer. Have you read our Oleander Series of Articles at the top right hand of /articles.htm? Let me point out one particular article: /autophagy.htm What stage is her cancer or is she in remission? And has she lost interest in food? Does the doctor have any input on this and her excessive sleeping? It could be due to her chemo and radiation treatments. How long has it been since she stopped the treatments? However, could it possibly be due to depression? What I would do, is get her started on Sutherlandia OPC http://www.sutherlandiaopc.com and the Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol, as much as possible. All of it would be ideal: /anticancer.htm I understand her fear in not wanting to stop taking this drug. She probably believes that her life depends on it. Yet, if she could understand that the cancer gained entry through a weakened immune system and the only way to regain health is to strengthen this very immune system. The only way to healing is naturally with the proper diet and supplements. In the Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol you have the best roadmap for regaining optimum health. Drugs at the very best mask the condition and in the long run do harm. Two of the long term effects of Armidex are chemically induced rheumatoid arthritis and fibromyalgia, and the fibromyalgia could possibly explain her need to sleep more. Has she read any of the posts in this forum? She would be most welcome to join and our caring members would give her all the support possible. And we are here to support you also Mike. The first thing to do is to get her on Sutherlandia OPC and the Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol and we have had many positive results in this forum. Hopefully, she can be convinced to fight her cancer naturally and once she sees positive results, she will see that drugs of any kind are not the answer. I wish you my very best Mike, and please do keep us informed. Warm regards, oleander soup , "mikewatson63" <mikewatson63 wrote:>> Hi all,> > I have been watching this forum for several months now and this is my 1st posting.> > My wife contracted breast cancer in April 2007 and went through usual chemo and radio therapy. She is now on the Arimidex tablet for the next 5 years. She is sleeping a lot and off her food. The inactivity is also making her put on weight which is counter productive to say the least. > > I found your site some months ago and have tried to talk Brenda into not taking the Arimidex, but she is to frightened to stop.> > Does anyone on this forum have any experience of this tablet and could oleander help with the side effects of this `remedy.'> > Any help would be appreciated> > Mike> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 oleander soup , " mikewatson63 " <mikewatson63 wrote: > > Hi all, > > I have been watching this forum for several months now and this is my 1st posting. > > My wife contracted breast cancer in April 2007 and went through usual chemo and radio therapy. She is now on the Arimidex tablet for the next 5 years. She is sleeping a lot and off her food. The inactivity is also making her put on weight which is counter productive to say the least. > > I found your site some months ago and have tried to talk Brenda into not taking the Arimidex, but she is to frightened to stop. > > Does anyone on this forum have any experience of this tablet and could oleander help with the side effects of this `remedy.' > > Any help would be appreciated > > Mike > Mike I have taken Arimdex for 3 years.....I now have osterposis because of it.....I stopped taking it on my own, went to the cancer dr. and she told me to stop taking it, that is one of the side effects, which I am sure is just one of many. I personally do not think that any of the cancer meds are worth the benefit. Hope this helps with her decision. Stay healthy, Violet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 Mike, My wife was on Arimidex for a year and it allowed her breast cancer to progress from stage "0" to stage 4. during that year she had bone pain as a side effect. She was switched to Aromasin at stage 4 and the side effects were so bad she stopped after a few days. There are a number of natural estrogen blockers and modifiers out there if your wife decides to go that route. In my opinion she ought to try oleander, at least along with the Arimidex, or possible instead of the Arimidex. Mike (also)--- On Sun, 4/26/09, mikewatson63 <mikewatson63 wrote: mikewatson63 <mikewatson63 ARIMIDEXoleander soup Date: Sunday, April 26, 2009, 8:53 PM Hi all,I have been watching this forum for several months now and this is my 1st posting.My wife contracted breast cancer in April 2007 and went through usual chemo and radio therapy. She is now on the Arimidex tablet for the next 5 years. She is sleeping a lot and off her food. The inactivity is also making her put on weight which is counter productive to say the least. I found your site some months ago and have tried to talk Brenda into not taking the Arimidex, but she is to frightened to stop.Does anyone on this forum have any experience of this tablet and could oleander help with the side effects of this `remedy.'Any help would be appreciatedMike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 Hi Thanks for the reply. Brenda has lost interest in food. No input from the Dr. other than side effects. Chemo ended in Dec 08 and radiotherapy Feb 09. Will order OPC for both of us. Do you have any suggestions on dosage? Mike--- On Sun, 26/4/09, May <luellamay129 wrote: May <luellamay129 Re: ARIMIDEXoleander soup Date: Sunday, 26 April, 2009, 2:32 PM Hi Mike, Welcome! I really don't know if Oleander would help with the side effects of Arimidex, but it certainly cannot hurt. Actually, it would help with one of the side effects, which is fibromyalgia. However, Oleander would only be of benefit to her. Oleander is over 90% effective against all types of cancer. Have you read our Oleander Series of Articles at the top right hand of http://www.tbyil. com/articles. htm? Let me point out one particular article: http://www.tbyil. com/autophagy. htm What stage is her cancer or is she in remission? And has she lost interest in food? Does the doctor have any input on this and her excessive sleeping? It could be due to her chemo and radiation treatments. How long has it been since she stopped the treatments? However, could it possibly be due to depression? What I would do, is get her started on Sutherlandia OPC http://www.sutherla ndiaopc.com and the Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol, as much as possible. All of it would be ideal: http://www.tbyil. com/anticancer. htm I understand her fear in not wanting to stop taking this drug. She probably believes that her life depends on it. Yet, if she could understand that the cancer gained entry through a weakened immune system and the only way to regain health is to strengthen this very immune system. The only way to healing is naturally with the proper diet and supplements. In the Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol you have the best roadmap for regaining optimum health. Drugs at the very best mask the condition and in the long run do harm. Two of the long term effects of Armidex are chemically induced rheumatoid arthritis and fibromyalgia, and the fibromyalgia could possibly explain her need to sleep more. Has she read any of the posts in this forum? She would be most welcome to join and our caring members would give her all the support possible. And we are here to support you also Mike. The first thing to do is to get her on Sutherlandia OPC and the Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol and we have had many positive results in this forum. Hopefully, she can be convinced to fight her cancer naturally and once she sees positive results, she will see that drugs of any kind are not the answer. I wish you my very best Mike, and please do keep us informed. Warm regards, oleander soup, "mikewatson63" <mikewatson63@ ...> wrote:>> Hi all,> > I have been watching this forum for several months now and this is my 1st posting.> > My wife contracted breast cancer in April 2007 and went through usual chemo and radio therapy. She is now on the Arimidex tablet for the next 5 years. She is sleeping a lot and off her food. The inactivity is also making her put on weight which is counter productive to say the least. > > I found your site some months ago and have tried to talk Brenda into not taking the Arimidex, but she is to frightened to stop.> > Does anyone on this forum have any experience of this tablet and could oleander help with the side effects of this `remedy.'> > Any help would be appreciated> > Mike> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 Hi Mike Thanks for the post. Does your wife now take oliander and has she had good results from it? Mike --- On Mon, 27/4/09, Mike Golden <goldenmike86 wrote: Mike Golden <goldenmike86Re: ARIMIDEXoleander soup Date: Monday, 27 April, 2009, 12:31 PM Mike, My wife was on Arimidex for a year and it allowed her breast cancer to progress from stage "0" to stage 4. during that year she had bone pain as a side effect. She was switched to Aromasin at stage 4 and the side effects were so bad she stopped after a few days. There are a number of natural estrogen blockers and modifiers out there if your wife decides to go that route. In my opinion she ought to try oleander, at least along with the Arimidex, or possible instead of the Arimidex. Mike (also)--- On Sun, 4/26/09, mikewatson63 <mikewatson63@ > wrote: mikewatson63 <mikewatson63@ > ARIMIDEXoleander soupSunday, April 26, 2009, 8:53 PM Hi all,I have been watching this forum for several months now and this is my 1st posting.My wife contracted breast cancer in April 2007 and went through usual chemo and radio therapy. She is now on the Arimidex tablet for the next 5 years. She is sleeping a lot and off her food. The inactivity is also making her put on weight which is counter productive to say the least. I found your site some months ago and have tried to talk Brenda into not taking the Arimidex, but she is to frightened to stop.Does anyone on this forum have any experience of this tablet and could oleander help with the side effects of this `remedy.'Any help would be appreciatedMike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 Thanks for the post violet. Appreciated. Mike--- On Sun, 26/4/09, violet1946 <sweetviolets01 wrote: violet1946 <sweetviolets01 Re: ARIMIDEXoleander soup Date: Sunday, 26 April, 2009, 11:23 PM oleander soup, "mikewatson63" <mikewatson63@ ...> wrote:>> Hi all,> > I have been watching this forum for several months now and this is my 1st posting.> > My wife contracted breast cancer in April 2007 and went through usual chemo and radio therapy. She is now on the Arimidex tablet for the next 5 years. She is sleeping a lot and off her food. The inactivity is also making her put on weight which is counter productive to say the least. > > I found your site some months ago and have tried to talk Brenda into not taking the Arimidex, but she is to frightened to stop.> > Does anyone on this forum have any experience of this tablet and could oleander help with the side effects of this `remedy.'> > Any help would be appreciated> > Mike>Mike I have taken Arimdex for 3 years.....I now have osterposis because of it.....I stopped taking it on my own, went to the cancerdr. and she told me to stop taking it, that is one of the side effects, which I am sure is just one of many. I personally do notthink that any of the cancer meds are worth the benefit.Hope this helps with her decision.Stay healthy,Violet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 Hi Mikes, I was diagnosed with breast cancer May 06. So far so good. I refused chemo and all of their drugs. I made huge changes in my diet and lifestyle in addition for the hormone aspect of it I do progesterone creme, fresh flax seed ground in my smoothies daily also, DIM is great. Another channel that I recently found out about is bio-identical hormone therapy which is my next avenue. Your wife's should definately get off the toxic drugs and pursue natural hormone balancing if they want to feel normal again. Tammatha - Mike Golden oleander soup Monday, April 27, 2009 12:31 PM Re: ARIMIDEX Mike, My wife was on Arimidex for a year and it allowed her breast cancer to progress from stage "0" to stage 4. during that year she had bone pain as a side effect. She was switched to Aromasin at stage 4 and the side effects were so bad she stopped after a few days. There are a number of natural estrogen blockers and modifiers out there if your wife decides to go that route. In my opinion she ought to try oleander, at least along with the Arimidex, or possible instead of the Arimidex. Mike (also)--- On Sun, 4/26/09, mikewatson63 <mikewatson63 > wrote: mikewatson63 <mikewatson63 > ARIMIDEXoleander soup Date: Sunday, April 26, 2009, 8:53 PM Hi all,I have been watching this forum for several months now and this is my 1st posting.My wife contracted breast cancer in April 2007 and went through usual chemo and radio therapy. She is now on the Arimidex tablet for the next 5 years. She is sleeping a lot and off her food. The inactivity is also making her put on weight which is counter productive to say the least. I found your site some months ago and have tried to talk Brenda into not taking the Arimidex, but she is to frightened to stop.Does anyone on this forum have any experience of this tablet and could oleander help with the side effects of this `remedy.'Any help would be appreciatedMike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 Too long after chem to have these symptoms. After radiation treatments are applied, a massive stress reaction occurs. This is associated with depletion of the body's nutrient reserves. Thus , widespread deficiencies of vitamins, minerals and amino acids readily develop. Many of those are vitamin A, vitamin C, vitamin D, riboflavin, panothenic acid, folic acid, vitamin E, zinc, and selenium. Please be aware that Candida albicans infection is also common with radiation. Don't worry, foods and herbs can help! Is she consuming raw vegetable juice? Please do that to feed the body the vitamins and minerals it needs. You need to cleanse the cells and the organs. This will help with side effects. Potato skin juice is good too. Get some liquid chlorophyll. If you need some recipes, please let me know. Pure water, Spring Water is best ( NOT IN PLASTIC), next is Reverse Osmosis water, if not at least solid carbon filtered water. If you do not have a rebounder ( small trampoline) find one and use it. This is not only good for none impact exercise, but good for lymph drainage. has very good comments, please consider them too! We, in this community, will help you find helath........................ Rich In a message dated 4/27/2009 4:54:46 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mikewatson63 writes: Hi Thanks for the reply. Brenda has lost interest in food. No input from the Dr. other than side effects. Chemo ended in Dec 08 and radiotherapy Feb 09. Will order OPC for both of us. Do you have any suggestions on dosage? Mike--- On Sun, 26/4/09, May <luellamay129 wrote: May <luellamay129 Re: ARIMIDEXoleander soup Date: Sunday, 26 April, 2009, 2:32 PM Hi Mike, Welcome! I really don't know if Oleander would help with the side effects of Arimidex, but it certainly cannot hurt. Actually, it would help with one of the side effects, which is fibromyalgia. However, Oleander would only be of benefit to her. Oleander is over 90% effective against all types of cancer. Have you read our Oleander Series of Articles at the top right hand of http://www.tbyil. com/articles. htm? Let me point out one particular article: http://www.tbyil. com/autophagy. htm What stage is her cancer or is she in remission? And has she lost interest in food? Does the doctor have any input on this and her excessive sleeping? It could be due to her chemo and radiation treatments. How long has it been since she stopped the treatments? However, could it possibly be due to depression? What I would do, is get her started on Sutherlandia OPC http://www.sutherla ndiaopc.com and the Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol, as much as possible. All of it would be ideal: http://www.tbyil. com/anticancer. htm I understand her fear in not wanting to stop taking this drug. She probably believes that her life depends on it. Yet, if she could understand that the cancer gained entry through a weakened immune system and the only way to regain health is to strengthen this very immune system. The only way to healing is naturally with the proper diet and supplements. In the Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol you have the best roadmap for regaining optimum health. Drugs at the very best mask the condition and in the long run do harm. Two of the long term effects of Armidex are chemically induced rheumatoid arthritis and fibromyalgia, and the fibromyalgia could possibly explain her need to sleep more. Has she read any of the posts in this forum? She would be most welcome to join and our caring members would give her all the support possible. And we are here to support you also Mike. The first thing to do is to get her on Sutherlandia OPC and the Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol and we have had many positive results in this forum. Hopefully, she can be convinced to fight her cancer naturally and once she sees positive results, she will see that drugs of any kind are not the answer. I wish you my very best Mike, and please do keep us informed. Warm regards, oleander soup, "mikewatson63" <mikewatson63@ ...> wrote:>> Hi all,> > I have been watching this forum for several months now and this is my 1st posting.> > My wife contracted breast cancer in April 2007 and went through usual chemo and radio therapy. She is now on the Arimidex tablet for the next 5 years. She is sleeping a lot and off her food. The inactivity is also making her put on weight which is counter productive to say the least. > > I found your site some months ago and have tried to talk Brenda into not taking the Arimidex, but she is to frightened to stop.> > Does anyone on this forum have any experience of this tablet and could oleander help with the side effects of this `remedy.'> > Any help would be appreciated> > Mike> Access 350+ FREE radio stations anytime from anywhere on the web. Get the Radio Toolbar! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 Mike, No, my wife is generally intolerant of herbs. She could never tolerate very much oleander. We have used small amounts of it as an immune booster at times when she has relatively low levels of nausea. It did make her hair grow in thicker than I've ever seen it, though. Mike--- On Mon, 4/27/09, michael watson <mikewatson63 wrote: michael watson <mikewatson63Re: ARIMIDEXoleander soup Date: Monday, April 27, 2009, 8:40 PM Hi Mike Thanks for the post. Does your wife now take oliander and has she had good results from it? Mike --- On Mon, 27/4/09, Mike Golden <goldenmike86@ ..com> wrote: Mike Golden <goldenmike86@ >Re: ARIMIDEXoleander soupMonday, 27 April, 2009, 12:31 PM Mike, My wife was on Arimidex for a year and it allowed her breast cancer to progress from stage "0" to stage 4. during that year she had bone pain as a side effect. She was switched to Aromasin at stage 4 and the side effects were so bad she stopped after a few days. There are a number of natural estrogen blockers and modifiers out there if your wife decides to go that route. In my opinion she ought to try oleander, at least along with the Arimidex, or possible instead of the Arimidex. Mike (also)--- On Sun, 4/26/09, mikewatson63 <mikewatson63@ > wrote: mikewatson63 <mikewatson63@ > ARIMIDEXoleander soupSunday, April 26, 2009, 8:53 PM Hi all,I have been watching this forum for several months now and this is my 1st posting.My wife contracted breast cancer in April 2007 and went through usual chemo and radio therapy. She is now on the Arimidex tablet for the next 5 years. She is sleeping a lot and off her food. The inactivity is also making her put on weight which is counter productive to say the least. I found your site some months ago and have tried to talk Brenda into not taking the Arimidex, but she is to frightened to stop.Does anyone on this forum have any experience of this tablet and could oleander help with the side effects of this `remedy.'Any help would be appreciatedMike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 My wife took ARIMIDEX for a year after a breast cancer. At the time we where ,unfortunately, completely ignorant of a the lies of oncologists. After a year I noticed two brown spot on her cheeks under the eyes corresponding in chinese medicine to the liver. Arimidex was attacking her liver. Knowing about the relation between high cholesterol and cancer, I had to insist wth her ignorant oncologist and nurses to have her cholesterol checked. At the time and since the onset of her breast cancer we were both on a low fat srrict vegetarian diet. When the result came back to our surprise she had a total cholesterol of 300 !! So she had lost her ability to process cholesterol. !! Also my wife, all her life had an ecellent memorie, a photographic memory, and this too is gone. Arimidex is an unecessary garbage, and chemo for breast cancer is an unecesssary torture for women. Let see the FACTS : success rate of chemo 2% to 4 % from various meta analysis. Chemo do not cure most of cancer but speed up the health deterioration and the death of patients. 75 % of doctors and oncologists will never take this junk and I don't even believe that they will give this to cure theirs favorite pets. We took 3 years off and went around the world to investigate about cancer cures and I tell you: you have a lot of non toxic cures out there !! After tree years of travel and permanent studies I come to the conclusion that you have only three types of cancer patients : the ignorant, the stupid and the well informed. Only two types of doctors left : the ignorant and the stupid, with few very rare exeptions. Less than 1 %, I guess.. English is not my language so please don't mind my spelling. See : www.jmbblog.com for more about cancer. I have to post in my list of alternative treatment something on the oleander soup. Could somebody in this group help me with a couple of well documented nice articles? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 I took Arimedex for two months, after a lumpectomy and radiation (Oncotype DX at 25 and oncologist recommending chemo). I felt so miserable on it (no energy, aches and pains, brain fog) that I called my oncologist and told her I stopped taking it. She told me to stay off it 30 days and then call her and she would prescribe another aromatase inhibitor. I never did. For awhile, I was going to agree to Tamoxifen but then discovered that if you take any one of about 30 different OTC drugs, such as Benadryl, the Tamoxifen would be ineffective. Meanwhile I have been taking DIM, OPC, Iodine, 4000 IU Vitamin D-3 and Reservatrol and as many fruits and veggies as I can manage. I am gradually moving toward the entire regimen recommended here. It is a lot of work doing my own research instead of just following the doctor's orders but given what I know about the medical-pharmacological complex (doctors are too busy to do their own research and drug companies put alot of money into convincing them that their drugs are the answer). BTW, one of my sons is a doctor and he thinks I am crazy. But I have seen a recent study stating that the actual field experience of women taking these AI's shows many more and more severe side effects than the drug companies reported their studies showed. Also, there are no studies showing any of these AI's actually increase the lifespan of the patient. So she may be less likely to die of breast cancer but there is nothing to say that she won't die sooner of something else, perhaps caused or exacerbated by the AI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 You wrote :doctors are too busy to do their own researches. No , doctors don't do research, they are too busy.. people with cancer do researches when they know out to do do it " see : Google scholar but keep in mind that none of the alternative medicine studies are ever published in so called " peer reviewed medical Journals " and systematically ignored... The few medical journals available are entirely in the hands of pharmaceuticals.o your resarches on this one two ; Just Google scholar this one : pharmaceutical advertising bmj Cancer is the best business and a growing business..should double before 2030 ( WHO) So you do the maths 38 % of women will have cancer for now ( ACS) numbers... Take this and multiply by two We have only to class of doctors : ignorants or stupids with very few exeptions and I welcome them to prove me wrng anytime JMB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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