Guest guest Posted July 14, 2005 Report Share Posted July 14, 2005 Flo, The KOMBUCHA MUSHROOM is actualy a colony of yeast and bacteria. Proponents of Kombucha claim that it is a panacea for almost any disease. People use it for weight loss because it contains caffeine, and helps both liver and gallblader work efficiently. Others say it helps bronchitis, asthma and muscle aches. One study shows the tea contains a strong antibacterial, effective against antibiotic-resistant strains of staphylococcus. A mixture of black tea and sugar is brewed and a Kombucha "mother" (starter) is added. The B vitamin-rich environment allows the bacteria to convert to a type of vinegar, which is really an amino acid and enzyme-rich, digestive "tea." To use kombucha tea, start with about 2-oz. a day; do not exceed 8-oz. a day. People with uric acid problems or gout should limit use, since the active yeasts contain significant amounts of nucleic acid which increases uric acid in the blood. Diabetic use is controversial because kombucha contains 3-4% simple sugars. If mold is floating on the surface, or the mushroom falls apart when handled, discard the tea entirely. Be Blessed in the right use of Knowledge...JOYintheMorning... ___________________________Flo <fgarig wrote: anyone know anything about kombucha tea and water kefir, also milk kefir? I'd also like to hear doc's theories on KT. Acid? Alkalinity? Acid that produces alkaline ash? Is KT beneficial for anything? Flo, Louisiana It matters not... Who you love, Where you love, Why you love, When you love, Or how you love, It matters only that you love.~ John Lennon Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 I just had one of my mum's friends give me a Kombucha starter fungus along with a pamphlet outlining the most amazing health and healing claims under the sun. I have always avoided Kombucha tea due to the fungus, but now that I have it I am fascinated. Does anyone know if it is alright for a person who is recovering from cancer to actually drink it on a daily basis? I get varied opinions when I Google it.I make Kefir from raw goats milk every week and I ferment veges, so Kombucha isn't a big stretch in my mind.Thanks in advance,Blessings, Eva. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 I can't comment on whether it's ok from a cancer point of view, but I'd like to clarify the "fungus" part. People often call it a "mushroom" or a "fungus." It is neither of those, really. It is a "scoby," or symbiotic culture of bacteria or yeast. These bacteria and yeast species are the little probiotic beings that do the fermenting. The scoby that forms on top of the sweetened tea as it ferments could really just be thought of as a house these guys build for themselves. Actually, you don't even need a starter scoby, just some kombucha from the previous batch (kind of like yogurt). Kombucha is thought to be quite detoxifying, and so it is usually recommended to start with small amounts (4 oz) to make sure you won't have a unpleasant detox reaction. Personally, I'm addicted! Jill Eva Klein-Otis wrote: I just had one of my mum's friends give me a Kombucha starter fungus along with a pamphlet outlining the most amazing health and healing claims under the sun. I have always avoided Kombucha tea due to the fungus, but now that I have it I am fascinated. Does anyone know if it is alright for a person who is recovering from cancer to actually drink it on a daily basis? I get varied opinions when I Google it. I make Kefir from raw goats milk every week and I ferment veges, so Kombucha isn't a big stretch in my mind. Thanks in advance, Blessings, Eva. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 I second the addiction part, its very nice and cooling! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 Thanks for the info Jill. I am relieved that it isn't a fungus. And I have since read in an Australian publication that the person who supposedly had a Kombucha "fungus" growing inside them could never be found!! Perhaps it is the case of another good treatment being discredited by the medical establishment. I have since read that I can 'brew' my Kombucha with Essiac tea, green tea and organic PawPaw leaf tea. All of which I have here in my cupboard.I look forward to further detoxing and increasing intestinal health!Eva.--- On Tue, 4/21/09, Jill <newsforjill wrote:Jill <newsforjillRe: Kombucha TeaTo: oleander soup Date: Tuesday, April 21, 2009, 11:14 PM I can't comment on whether it's ok from a cancer point of view, but I'd like to clarify the "fungus" part. People often call it a "mushroom" or a "fungus." It is neither of those, really. It is a "scoby," or symbiotic culture of bacteria or yeast. These bacteria and yeast species are the little probiotic beings that do the fermenting. The scoby that forms on top of the sweetened tea as it ferments could really just be thought of as a house these guys build for themselves. Actually, you don't even need a starter scoby, just some kombucha from the previous batch (kind of like yogurt). Kombucha is thought to be quite detoxifying, and so it is usually recommended to start with small amounts (4 oz) to make sure you won't have a unpleasant detox reaction. Personally, I'm addicted! Jill Eva Klein-Otis wrote: I just had one of my mum's friends give me a Kombucha starter fungus along with a pamphlet outlining the most amazing health and healing claims under the sun. I have always avoided Kombucha tea due to the fungus, but now that I have it I am fascinated. Does anyone know if it is alright for a person who is recovering from cancer to actually drink it on a daily basis? I get varied opinions when I Google it. I make Kefir from raw goats milk every week and I ferment veges, so Kombucha isn't a big stretch in my mind. Thanks in advance, Blessings, Eva. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 Eva, Kombucha, a symbiotic culture of yeast and bacteria, contains a fungus because yeast is classified as a fungus. Just as some bacteria can make you sick or infect tissue and others are critical to health there are funguses that play similar roles. Some of the probiotics in our gut are yeasts and we would be worse off without them, so some funguses are good. A fungus is an achlorophyllous plant, meaning it has no chlorophyl and cannot photosynthesize. People looking to boost their immune systems to fight all sorts of disease can find many allies in the fungus family available in pricey bottles on the shelves at your health food store. Here are some recommendations from Dr. Weil on funguses for cancer: http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/id/QAA68312 Kombucha does not agree with me so I assume I am allergic to it but I know others who claim it has healed them of all sorts of ailments. People are individuals with unique biochemistry's. Ruth oleander soup , Eva Klein-Otis <eklein.otis wrote: > > Thanks for the info Jill. I am relieved that it isn't a fungus. And I have since read in an Australian publication that the person who supposedly had a Kombucha " fungus " growing inside them could never be found!! Perhaps it is the case of another good treatment being discredited by the medical establishment. I have since read that I can 'brew' my Kombucha with Essiac tea, green tea and organic PawPaw leaf tea. All of which I have here in my cupboard. > > I look forward to further detoxing and increasing intestinal health! > > Eva. > > > > --- On Tue, 4/21/09, Jill <newsforjill wrote: > > Jill <newsforjill > Re: Kombucha Tea > oleander soup > Tuesday, April 21, 2009, 11:14 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I can't comment on whether > it's ok from a cancer point of view, but I'd like to clarify the > " fungus " part. People often call it a " mushroom " or a " fungus. " It is > neither of those, really. It is a " scoby, " or symbiotic culture of > bacteria or yeast. These bacteria and yeast species are the little > probiotic beings that do the fermenting.. The scoby that forms on top of > the sweetened tea as it ferments could really just be thought of as a > house these guys build for themselves. Actually, you don't even need a > starter scoby, just some kombucha from the previous batch (kind of like > yogurt). > > > > Kombucha is thought to be quite detoxifying, and so it is usually > recommended to start with small amounts (4 oz) to make sure you won't > have a unpleasant detox reaction. > > > > Personally, I'm addicted! > > Jill > > > > > > Eva Klein-Otis wrote: I just had one of my mum's friends give me a Kombucha > starter fungus along with a pamphlet outlining the most amazing health > and healing claims under the sun. I have always avoided Kombucha tea > due to the fungus, but now that I have it I am fascinated. Does anyone > know if it is alright for a person who is recovering from cancer to > actually drink it on a daily basis? I get varied opinions when I > Google it. > > > > I make Kefir from raw goats milk every week and I ferment veges, so > Kombucha isn't a big stretch in my mind. > > > > Thanks in advance, > > Blessings, Eva. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 Thanks for that info Ruth. Interestingly enough Dr Weil doesn't agree with Kombucha tea at all. May I ask how you know it doesn't agree with you? I realize we are all different and I don't really want to mistake detox symptoms for an allergy. However I realize that is dependent on my unique system and something you can't determine for me.Thanks Eva.--- On Thu, 4/23/09, Ruth Harris <phoophh wrote:Ruth Harris <phoophh Re: Kombucha Teaoleander soup Date: Thursday, April 23, 2009, 6:12 PM Eva, Kombucha, a symbiotic culture of yeast and bacteria, contains a fungus because yeast is classified as a fungus. Just as some bacteria can make you sick or infect tissue and others are critical to health there are funguses that play similar roles. Some of the probiotics in our gut are yeasts and we would be worse off without them, so some funguses are good. A fungus is an achlorophyllous plant, meaning it has no chlorophyl and cannot photosynthesize. People looking to boost their immune systems to fight all sorts of disease can find many allies in the fungus family available in pricey bottles on the shelves at your health food store. Here are some recommendations from Dr. Weil on funguses for cancer: http://www.drweil. com/drw/u/ id/QAA68312 Kombucha does not agree with me so I assume I am allergic to it but I know others who claim it has healed them of all sorts of ailments. People are individuals with unique biochemistry' s. Ruth oleander soup, Eva Klein-Otis <eklein.otis@ ...> wrote: > > Thanks for the info Jill. I am relieved that it isn't a fungus. And I have since read in an Australian publication that the person who supposedly had a Kombucha "fungus" growing inside them could never be found!! Perhaps it is the case of another good treatment being discredited by the medical establishment. I have since read that I can 'brew' my Kombucha with Essiac tea, green tea and organic PawPaw leaf tea. All of which I have here in my cupboard. > > I look forward to further detoxing and increasing intestinal health! > > Eva. > > > > --- On Tue, 4/21/09, Jill <newsforjill@ ...> wrote: > > Jill <newsforjill@ ...> > Re: Kombucha Tea > oleander soup > Tuesday, April 21, 2009, 11:14 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I can't comment on whether > it's ok from a cancer point of view, but I'd like to clarify the > "fungus" part. People often call it a "mushroom" or a "fungus." It is > neither of those, really. It is a "scoby," or symbiotic culture of > bacteria or yeast. These bacteria and yeast species are the little > probiotic beings that do the fermenting.. The scoby that forms on top of > the sweetened tea as it ferments could really just be thought of as a > house these guys build for themselves. Actually, you don't even need a > starter scoby, just some kombucha from the previous batch (kind of like > yogurt). > > > > Kombucha is thought to be quite detoxifying, and so it is usually > recommended to start with small amounts (4 oz) to make sure you won't > have a unpleasant detox reaction. > > > > Personally, I'm addicted! > > Jill > > > > > > Eva Klein-Otis wrote: > > > > > > > I just had one of my mum's friends give me a Kombucha > starter fungus along with a pamphlet outlining the most amazing health > and healing claims under the sun. I have always avoided Kombucha tea > due to the fungus, but now that I have it I am fascinated. Does anyone > know if it is alright for a person who is recovering from cancer to > actually drink it on a daily basis? I get varied opinions when I > Google it. > > > > I make Kefir from raw goats milk every week and I ferment veges, so > Kombucha isn't a big stretch in my mind. > > > > Thanks in advance, > > Blessings, Eva. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 Hi Eva, I assume anything that makes me throw up shortly after ingesting it is something my body doesn't tolerate. I am allergic to marijuana and as a result cannot eat any of those oh so nutritious products made from industrial hemp seeds, so being allergic to things that are recognized as beneficial is something I have accepted. Ruth oleander soup , Eva Klein-Otis <eklein.otis wrote: > > Thanks for that info Ruth. Interestingly enough Dr Weil doesn't agree with Kombucha tea at all. May I ask how you know it doesn't agree with you? I realize we are all different and I don't really want to mistake detox symptoms for an allergy. However I realize that is dependent on my unique system and something you can't determine for me. > > Thanks Eva. > > --- On Thu, 4/23/09, Ruth Harris <phoophh wrote: > > Ruth Harris <phoophh > Re: Kombucha Tea > oleander soup > Thursday, April 23, 2009, 6:12 PM > > > > > > > > > > > Eva, > > > > Kombucha, a symbiotic culture of yeast and bacteria, contains a fungus because yeast is classified as a fungus. Just as some bacteria can make you sick or infect tissue and others are critical to health there are funguses that play similar roles. Some of the probiotics in our gut are yeasts and we would be worse off without them, so some funguses are good. A fungus is an achlorophyllous plant, meaning it has no chlorophyl and cannot photosynthesize. > > > > People looking to boost their immune systems to fight all sorts of disease can find many allies in the fungus family available in pricey bottles on the shelves at your health food store. Here are some recommendations from Dr. Weil on funguses for cancer: > > http://www.drweil. com/drw/u/ id/QAA68312 > > > > Kombucha does not agree with me so I assume I am allergic to it but I know others who claim it has healed them of all sorts of ailments. People are individuals with unique biochemistry' s. > > > > Ruth > > > > oleander soup, Eva Klein-Otis <eklein.otis@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Thanks for the info Jill. I am relieved that it isn't a fungus. And I have since read in an Australian publication that the person who supposedly had a Kombucha " fungus " growing inside them could never be found!! Perhaps it is the case of another good treatment being discredited by the medical establishment. I have since read that I can 'brew' my Kombucha with Essiac tea, green tea and organic PawPaw leaf tea. All of which I have here in my cupboard. > > > > > > I look forward to further detoxing and increasing intestinal health! > > > > > > Eva. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 4/21/09, Jill <newsforjill@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Jill <newsforjill@ ...> > > > Re: Kombucha Tea > > > oleander soup > > > Tuesday, April 21, 2009, 11:14 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I can't comment on whether > > > it's ok from a cancer point of view, but I'd like to clarify the > > > " fungus " part. People often call it a " mushroom " or a " fungus. " It is > > > neither of those, really. It is a " scoby, " or symbiotic culture of > > > bacteria or yeast. These bacteria and yeast species are the little > > > probiotic beings that do the fermenting.. The scoby that forms on top of > > > the sweetened tea as it ferments could really just be thought of as a > > > house these guys build for themselves. Actually, you don't even need a > > > starter scoby, just some kombucha from the previous batch (kind of like > > > yogurt). > > > > > > > > > > > > Kombucha is thought to be quite detoxifying, and so it is usually > > > recommended to start with small amounts (4 oz) to make sure you won't > > > have a unpleasant detox reaction. > > > > > > > > > > > > Personally, I'm addicted! > > > > > > Jill > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Eva Klein-Otis wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just had one of my mum's friends give me a Kombucha > > > starter fungus along with a pamphlet outlining the most amazing health > > > and healing claims under the sun. I have always avoided Kombucha tea > > > due to the fungus, but now that I have it I am fascinated. Does anyone > > > know if it is alright for a person who is recovering from cancer to > > > actually drink it on a daily basis? I get varied opinions when I > > > Google it. > > > > > > > > > > > > I make Kefir from raw goats milk every week and I ferment veges, so > > > Kombucha isn't a big stretch in my mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > > > Blessings, Eva. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 I understand where you are coming from Ruth. I have a few things that I have a severe intolerance for and in addition which make my body acidic instead of alkaline like everyone else. I am not supposed to take Hempseed oil as it makes my system acidic. Oh well. I do find that the more I detox, the better my system can handle things that used to bother me a while ago when I still had my tumor. Thanks for sharing,Eva,.--- On Fri, 4/24/09, Ruth Harris <phoophh wrote:Ruth Harris <phoophh Re: Kombucha Teaoleander soup Date: Friday, April 24, 2009, 4:53 PM Hi Eva, I assume anything that makes me throw up shortly after ingesting it is something my body doesn't tolerate. I am allergic to marijuana and as a result cannot eat any of those oh so nutritious products made from industrial hemp seeds, so being allergic to things that are recognized as beneficial is something I have accepted. Ruth oleander soup, Eva Klein-Otis <eklein.otis@ ...> wrote: > > Thanks for that info Ruth. Interestingly enough Dr Weil doesn't agree with Kombucha tea at all. May I ask how you know it doesn't agree with you? I realize we are all different and I don't really want to mistake detox symptoms for an allergy. However I realize that is dependent on my unique system and something you can't determine for me. > > Thanks Eva. > > --- On Thu, 4/23/09, Ruth Harris <phoophh > wrote: > > Ruth Harris <phoophh > > Re: Kombucha Tea > oleander soup > Thursday, April 23, 2009, 6:12 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Eva, > > > > Kombucha, a symbiotic culture of yeast and bacteria, contains a fungus because yeast is classified as a fungus. Just as some bacteria can make you sick or infect tissue and others are critical to health there are funguses that play similar roles. Some of the probiotics in our gut are yeasts and we would be worse off without them, so some funguses are good. A fungus is an achlorophyllous plant, meaning it has no chlorophyl and cannot photosynthesize. > > > > People looking to boost their immune systems to fight all sorts of disease can find many allies in the fungus family available in pricey bottles on the shelves at your health food store. Here are some recommendations from Dr. Weil on funguses for cancer: > > http://www.drweil. com/drw/u/ id/QAA68312 > > > > Kombucha does not agree with me so I assume I am allergic to it but I know others who claim it has healed them of all sorts of ailments. People are individuals with unique biochemistry' s. > > > > Ruth > > > > oleander soup, Eva Klein-Otis <eklein.otis@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Thanks for the info Jill. I am relieved that it isn't a fungus. And I have since read in an Australian publication that the person who supposedly had a Kombucha "fungus" growing inside them could never be found!! Perhaps it is the case of another good treatment being discredited by the medical establishment. I have since read that I can 'brew' my Kombucha with Essiac tea, green tea and organic PawPaw leaf tea. All of which I have here in my cupboard. > > > > > > I look forward to further detoxing and increasing intestinal health! > > > > > > Eva. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 4/21/09, Jill <newsforjill@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Jill <newsforjill@ ...> > > > Re: Kombucha Tea > > > oleander soup > > > Tuesday, April 21, 2009, 11:14 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I can't comment on whether > > > it's ok from a cancer point of view, but I'd like to clarify the > > > "fungus" part. People often call it a "mushroom" or a "fungus." It is > > > neither of those, really. It is a "scoby," or symbiotic culture of > > > bacteria or yeast. These bacteria and yeast species are the little > > > probiotic beings that do the fermenting... The scoby that forms on top of > > > the sweetened tea as it ferments could really just be thought of as a > > > house these guys build for themselves. Actually, you don't even need a > > > starter scoby, just some kombucha from the previous batch (kind of like > > > yogurt). > > > > > > > > > > > > Kombucha is thought to be quite detoxifying, and so it is usually > > > recommended to start with small amounts (4 oz) to make sure you won't > > > have a unpleasant detox reaction. > > > > > > > > > > > > Personally, I'm addicted! > > > > > > Jill > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Eva Klein-Otis wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just had one of my mum's friends give me a Kombucha > > > starter fungus along with a pamphlet outlining the most amazing health > > > and healing claims under the sun. I have always avoided Kombucha tea > > > due to the fungus, but now that I have it I am fascinated. Does anyone > > > know if it is alright for a person who is recovering from cancer to > > > actually drink it on a daily basis? I get varied opinions when I > > > Google it. > > > > > > > > > > > > I make Kefir from raw goats milk every week and I ferment veges, so > > > Kombucha isn't a big stretch in my mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > > > Blessings, Eva. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 I understand where you are coming from Ruth. I have a few things that I have a severe intolerance for and in addition which make my body acidic instead of alkaline like everyone else. I am not supposed to take Hempseed oil as it makes my system acidic. Oh well. I do find that the more I detox, the better my system can handle things that used to bother me a while ago when I still had my tumor. I will see how I go with the Kombucha. I will make it with Essiac tea and another batch with Paw Paw leaf tea and see how it agrees with me.Thanks for sharing,Eva,.--- On Fri, 4/24/09, Ruth Harris <phoophh wrote:Ruth Harris <phoophh Re: Kombucha Teaoleander soup Date: Friday, April 24, 2009, 4:53 PM Hi Eva, I assume anything that makes me throw up shortly after ingesting it is something my body doesn't tolerate. I am allergic to marijuana and as a result cannot eat any of those oh so nutritious products made from industrial hemp seeds, so being allergic to things that are recognized as beneficial is something I have accepted. Ruth oleander soup, Eva Klein-Otis <eklein..otis@ ...> wrote: > > Thanks for that info Ruth. Interestingly enough Dr Weil doesn't agree with Kombucha tea at all.. May I ask how you know it doesn't agree with you? I realize we are all different and I don't really want to mistake detox symptoms for an allergy. However I realize that is dependent on my unique system and something you can't determine for me. > > Thanks Eva. > > --- On Thu, 4/23/09, Ruth Harris <phoophh > wrote: > > Ruth Harris <phoophh > > Re: Kombucha Tea > oleander soup > Thursday, April 23, 2009, 6:12 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Eva, > > > > Kombucha, a symbiotic culture of yeast and bacteria, contains a fungus because yeast is classified as a fungus. Just as some bacteria can make you sick or infect tissue and others are critical to health there are funguses that play similar roles. Some of the probiotics in our gut are yeasts and we would be worse off without them, so some funguses are good. A fungus is an achlorophyllous plant, meaning it has no chlorophyl and cannot photosynthesize. > > > > People looking to boost their immune systems to fight all sorts of disease can find many allies in the fungus family available in pricey bottles on the shelves at your health food store. Here are some recommendations from Dr. Weil on funguses for cancer: > > http://www.drweil. com/drw/u/ id/QAA68312 > > > > Kombucha does not agree with me so I assume I am allergic to it but I know others who claim it has healed them of all sorts of ailments. People are individuals with unique biochemistry' s. > > > > Ruth > > > > oleander soup, Eva Klein-Otis <eklein.otis@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Thanks for the info Jill. I am relieved that it isn't a fungus. And I have since read in an Australian publication that the person who supposedly had a Kombucha "fungus" growing inside them could never be found!! Perhaps it is the case of another good treatment being discredited by the medical establishment. I have since read that I can 'brew' my Kombucha with Essiac tea, green tea and organic PawPaw leaf tea. All of which I have here in my cupboard. > > > > > > I look forward to further detoxing and increasing intestinal health! > > > > > > Eva. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 4/21/09, Jill <newsforjill@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Jill <newsforjill@ ...> > > > Re: Kombucha Tea > > > oleander soup > > > Tuesday, April 21, 2009, 11:14 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I can't comment on whether > > > it's ok from a cancer point of view, but I'd like to clarify the > > > "fungus" part. People often call it a "mushroom" or a "fungus." It is > > > neither of those, really. It is a "scoby," or symbiotic culture of > > > bacteria or yeast. These bacteria and yeast species are the little > > > probiotic beings that do the fermenting.. The scoby that forms on top of > > > the sweetened tea as it ferments could really just be thought of as a > > > house these guys build for themselves. Actually, you don't even need a > > > starter scoby, just some kombucha from the previous batch (kind of like > > > yogurt). > > > > > > > > > > > > Kombucha is thought to be quite detoxifying, and so it is usually > > > recommended to start with small amounts (4 oz) to make sure you won't > > > have a unpleasant detox reaction. > > > > > > > > > > > > Personally, I'm addicted! > > > > > > Jill > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Eva Klein-Otis wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just had one of my mum's friends give me a Kombucha > > > starter fungus along with a pamphlet outlining the most amazing health > > > and healing claims under the sun. I have always avoided Kombucha tea > > > due to the fungus, but now that I have it I am fascinated. Does anyone > > > know if it is alright for a person who is recovering from cancer to > > > actually drink it on a daily basis? I get varied opinions when I > > > Google it. > > > > > > > > > > > > I make Kefir from raw goats milk every week and I ferment veges, so > > > Kombucha isn't a big stretch in my mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > > > Blessings, Eva. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 Read the bottle. One of the kombucha tea's that Whole Foods sells was made by a guy whose mom had cancer. oleander soup , Eva Klein-Otis <eklein.otis wrote: > > I understand where you are coming from Ruth. I have a few things that I have a severe intolerance for and in addition which make my body acidic instead of alkaline like everyone else. I am not supposed to take Hempseed oil as it makes my system acidic. Oh well. I do find that the more I detox, the better my system can handle things that used to bother me a while ago when I still had my tumor. > > Thanks for sharing, > Eva,. > > --- On Fri, 4/24/09, Ruth Harris <phoophh wrote: > > Ruth Harris <phoophh > Re: Kombucha Tea > oleander soup > Friday, April 24, 2009, 4:53 PM > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Eva, > > > > I assume anything that makes me throw up shortly after ingesting it is something my body doesn't tolerate. > > > > I am allergic to marijuana and as a result cannot eat any of those oh so nutritious products made from industrial hemp seeds, so being allergic to things that are recognized as beneficial is something I have accepted. > > > > Ruth > > > > oleander soup, Eva Klein-Otis <eklein.otis@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Thanks for that info Ruth. Interestingly enough Dr Weil doesn't agree with Kombucha tea at all. May I ask how you know it doesn't agree with you? I realize we are all different and I don't really want to mistake detox symptoms for an allergy. However I realize that is dependent on my unique system and something you can't determine for me. > > > > > > Thanks Eva. > > > > > > --- On Thu, 4/23/09, Ruth Harris <phoophh@ > wrote: > > > > > > Ruth Harris <phoophh@ > > > > Re: Kombucha Tea > > > oleander soup > > > Thursday, April 23, 2009, 6:12 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Eva, > > > > > > > > > > > > Kombucha, a symbiotic culture of yeast and bacteria, contains a fungus because yeast is classified as a fungus. Just as some bacteria can make you sick or infect tissue and others are critical to health there are funguses that play similar roles. Some of the probiotics in our gut are yeasts and we would be worse off without them, so some funguses are good. A fungus is an achlorophyllous plant, meaning it has no chlorophyl and cannot photosynthesize. > > > > > > > > > > > > People looking to boost their immune systems to fight all sorts of disease can find many allies in the fungus family available in pricey bottles on the shelves at your health food store. Here are some recommendations from Dr. Weil on funguses for cancer: > > > > > > http://www.drweil. com/drw/u/ id/QAA68312 > > > > > > > > > > > > Kombucha does not agree with me so I assume I am allergic to it but I know others who claim it has healed them of all sorts of ailments. People are individuals with unique biochemistry' s. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ruth > > > > > > > > > > > > oleander soup, Eva Klein-Otis <eklein.otis@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the info Jill. I am relieved that it isn't a fungus. And I have since read in an Australian publication that the person who supposedly had a Kombucha " fungus " growing inside them could never be found!! Perhaps it is the case of another good treatment being discredited by the medical establishment. I have since read that I can 'brew' my Kombucha with Essiac tea, green tea and organic PawPaw leaf tea. All of which I have here in my cupboard. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I look forward to further detoxing and increasing intestinal health! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Eva. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 4/21/09, Jill <newsforjill@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jill <newsforjill@ ...> > > > > > > > Re: Kombucha Tea > > > > > > > oleander soup > > > > > > > Tuesday, April 21, 2009, 11:14 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I can't comment on whether > > > > > > > it's ok from a cancer point of view, but I'd like to clarify the > > > > > > > " fungus " part. People often call it a " mushroom " or a " fungus. " It is > > > > > > > neither of those, really. It is a " scoby, " or symbiotic culture of > > > > > > > bacteria or yeast. These bacteria and yeast species are the little > > > > > > > probiotic beings that do the fermenting.. The scoby that forms on top of > > > > > > > the sweetened tea as it ferments could really just be thought of as a > > > > > > > house these guys build for themselves. Actually, you don't even need a > > > > > > > starter scoby, just some kombucha from the previous batch (kind of like > > > > > > > yogurt). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kombucha is thought to be quite detoxifying, and so it is usually > > > > > > > recommended to start with small amounts (4 oz) to make sure you won't > > > > > > > have a unpleasant detox reaction. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Personally, I'm addicted! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jill > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Eva Klein-Otis wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just had one of my mum's friends give me a Kombucha > > > > > > > starter fungus along with a pamphlet outlining the most amazing health > > > > > > > and healing claims under the sun. I have always avoided Kombucha tea > > > > > > > due to the fungus, but now that I have it I am fascinated. Does anyone > > > > > > > know if it is alright for a person who is recovering from cancer to > > > > > > > actually drink it on a daily basis? I get varied opinions when I > > > > > > > Google it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I make Kefir from raw goats milk every week and I ferment veges, so > > > > > > > Kombucha isn't a big stretch in my mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blessings, Eva. > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 What bottle? We don't have a whole foods supermarket here in Australia. Although I did shop there when I lived in the US. I did state in my email that I received a Kombucha from my mum's friend. As far as I understand, this forum is for people to exchange experiences with each other. ANYONE can make a claim on a bottle! Still doesn't make it so!Eva>--- On Sun, 4/26/09, suzannestapler <scupe1 wrote:suzannestapler <scupe1 Re: Kombucha Teaoleander soup Date: Sunday, April 26, 2009, 4:45 PM Read the bottle. One of the kombucha tea's that Whole Foods sells was made by a guy whose mom had cancer. oleander soup, Eva Klein-Otis <eklein.otis@ ...> wrote: > > I understand where you are coming from Ruth. I have a few things that I have a severe intolerance for and in addition which make my body acidic instead of alkaline like everyone else. I am not supposed to take Hempseed oil as it makes my system acidic. Oh well. I do find that the more I detox, the better my system can handle things that used to bother me a while ago when I still had my tumor. > > Thanks for sharing, > Eva,. > > --- On Fri, 4/24/09, Ruth Harris <phoophh > wrote: > > Ruth Harris <phoophh > > Re: Kombucha Tea > oleander soup > Friday, April 24, 2009, 4:53 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Eva, > > > > I assume anything that makes me throw up shortly after ingesting it is something my body doesn't tolerate. > > > > I am allergic to marijuana and as a result cannot eat any of those oh so nutritious products made from industrial hemp seeds, so being allergic to things that are recognized as beneficial is something I have accepted. > > > > Ruth > > > > oleander soup, Eva Klein-Otis <eklein.otis@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Thanks for that info Ruth. Interestingly enough Dr Weil doesn't agree with Kombucha tea at all. May I ask how you know it doesn't agree with you? I realize we are all different and I don't really want to mistake detox symptoms for an allergy. However I realize that is dependent on my unique system and something you can't determine for me. > > > > > > Thanks Eva. > > > > > > --- On Thu, 4/23/09, Ruth Harris <phoophh@ > wrote: > > > > > > Ruth Harris <phoophh@ > > > > Re: Kombucha Tea > > > oleander soup > > > Thursday, April 23, 2009, 6:12 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Eva, > > > > > > > > > > > > Kombucha, a symbiotic culture of yeast and bacteria, contains a fungus because yeast is classified as a fungus. Just as some bacteria can make you sick or infect tissue and others are critical to health there are funguses that play similar roles. Some of the probiotics in our gut are yeasts and we would be worse off without them, so some funguses are good. A fungus is an achlorophyllous plant, meaning it has no chlorophyl and cannot photosynthesize. > > > > > > > > > > > > People looking to boost their immune systems to fight all sorts of disease can find many allies in the fungus family available in pricey bottles on the shelves at your health food store. Here are some recommendations from Dr. Weil on funguses for cancer: > > > > > > http://www.drweil. com/drw/u/ id/QAA68312 > > > > > > > > > > > > Kombucha does not agree with me so I assume I am allergic to it but I know others who claim it has healed them of all sorts of ailments. People are individuals with unique biochemistry' s. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ruth > > > > > > > > > > > > oleander soup, Eva Klein-Otis <eklein.otis@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the info Jill. I am relieved that it isn't a fungus. And I have since read in an Australian publication that the person who supposedly had a Kombucha "fungus" growing inside them could never be found!! Perhaps it is the case of another good treatment being discredited by the medical establishment. I have since read that I can 'brew' my Kombucha with Essiac tea, green tea and organic PawPaw leaf tea. All of which I have here in my cupboard. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I look forward to further detoxing and increasing intestinal health! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Eva. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 4/21/09, Jill <newsforjill@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jill <newsforjill@ ...> > > > > > > > Re: Kombucha Tea > > > > > > > oleander soup > > > > > > > Tuesday, April 21, 2009, 11:14 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I can't comment on whether > > > > > > > it's ok from a cancer point of view, but I'd like to clarify the > > > > > > > "fungus" part. People often call it a "mushroom" or a "fungus." It is > > > > > > > neither of those, really. It is a "scoby," or symbiotic culture of > > > > > > > bacteria or yeast. These bacteria and yeast species are the little > > > > > > > probiotic beings that do the fermenting.. The scoby that forms on top of > > > > > > > the sweetened tea as it ferments could really just be thought of as a > > > > > > > house these guys build for themselves. Actually, you don't even need a > > > > > > > starter scoby, just some kombucha from the previous batch (kind of like > > > > > > > yogurt). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kombucha is thought to be quite detoxifying, and so it is usually > > > > > > > recommended to start with small amounts (4 oz) to make sure you won't > > > > > > > have a unpleasant detox reaction. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Personally, I'm addicted! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jill > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Eva Klein-Otis wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just had one of my mum's friends give me a Kombucha > > > > > > > starter fungus along with a pamphlet outlining the most amazing health > > > > > > > and healing claims under the sun. I have always avoided Kombucha tea > > > > > > > due to the fungus, but now that I have it I am fascinated. Does anyone > > > > > > > know if it is alright for a person who is recovering from cancer to > > > > > > > actually drink it on a daily basis? I get varied opinions when I > > > > > > > Google it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I make Kefir from raw goats milk every week and I ferment veges, so > > > > > > > Kombucha isn't a big stretch in my mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blessings, Eva. > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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