Guest guest Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 And here's a VERY important key they keep "forgetting" to tell people. Cancer, like any other disease, can be contained for YEARS! Meaning, that though a person has cancer, they are not dying of cancer. By keeping the rest of the body up with supplements, air, food, etc, good attitude, exercise--you still have cancer, but not the symptoms of cancer. Um, I didn't say that very good. Let's see--you still have cancer cells, but they are not disabling you. It's like when AIDS first was discovered. Everyone died of aids. Every doctor knew that. Every person knew that. Except those that exercised, ate healthy foods, etc--they not only survived, but thrived. Didn't loose the weight, never had the sores. The thing that baffled the doctors was that their blood still showed full blown aids! Yet they went on to live a regular, normal lifetime. So--it could be that's where you are at. You may still have tumors. They may still be cancerous. But they are being held in control by the health of the rest of the body. Our bodies are designed to live, and deal with all sorts of things. Being healthy doesn't always mean being 100% clear of any disease. It means the body is controlling how it reacts to the disease. So technically anyone can have any disease--MS, cancer, Aids, Hep C--and yet the person can be healthy. I believe you said you use to do Egoscue. Remember in the book where he said that the coroner came out and asked the wife if her husband was in a wheelchair. She looked surprised and said no. He said "but he had to use canes and could hardly walk, right" She thought he was talking about someone else because her husband had zero problems with walking. Turns out his spine was shot--the doctor said that there was no way he should have been able to walk upright. But because he used the correct muscles that were made to do the job, even though his disks were really bad with arthritis, he never had any of those symptoms! That's the way it is. Our bodies are miracles. I'm happy for you. :-) ---- Rhoda Mead 4/17/2009 8:25:26 AM oleander soup a great laugh today! My son Cris and I went for a brisk hour walk in the Oakland hills today. We stopped at the top of a steep hill to catch our breath, and I remarked in surprise that I feel great. I went on to say that I don't know whether it's adding glutathione to liposomal Vitamin C, or dental surgery (probably too soon), but that feeling good probably doesn't mean that the cancer is getting smaller, just that I feel physically healthy. He stood there gasping and laughing at me, saying he couldn't keep up with me. (Cris is 42, and I'm 70.) He said that my perspective is skewed; my onco said eight months ago that according to statistics, I'd be dead in less than a year, or taking chemo which would leave me weak and nauseous, but give me an additional year. And here I am bitching about feeling physically great!! We laughed and hugged! Rhoda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 Rhoda: Your and insperation. My blue periods have been helped a lot by Joel Osteen and his cable video broadcasts (the cable listings are on his site also). http://www.joelosteen.com/HopeForToday/ThoughtsOn/Pages/ThoughtsOn.aspx Duke Most health problems are related to fungus in our bodies and the chemically treated rotting garbage we are offered at the Super Markets. dukestone --- On Thu, 4/16/09, Rhoda Mead <hummingbird541 wrote: Rhoda Mead <hummingbird541 My son Cris and I went for a brisk hour walk in the Oakland hills today. We stopped at the top of a steep hill to catch our breath, and I remarked in surprise that I feel great. I went on to say that I don't know whether it's adding glutathione to liposomal Vitamin C, or dental surgery (probably too soon), but that feeling good probably doesn't mean that the cancer is getting smaller, just that I feel physically healthy. He stood there gasping and laughing at me, saying he couldn't keep up with me. (Cris is 42, and I'm 70.) He said that my perspective is skewed; my onco said eight months ago that according to statistics, I'd be dead in less than a year, or taking chemo which would leave me weak and nauseous, but give me an additional year. And here I am bitching about feeling physically great!! We laughed and hugged. | Un .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 Rhoda!I'm just tickled that you had such a great day! What a gift your email is to all of us.Thank you so much for sharing that story!Janet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 Inspiring! Edifying! Thanks so much Rhoda.Love,Mara --- On Thu, 4/16/09, Rhoda Mead <hummingbird541@ gmail.com> wrote: Rhoda Mead <hummingbird541@ gmail.com> My son Cris and I went for a brisk hour walk in the Oakland hills today. We stopped at the top of a steep hill to catch our breath, and I remarked in surprise that I feel great. I went on to say that I don't know whether it's adding glutathione to liposomal Vitamin C, or dental surgery (probably too soon), but that feeling good probably doesn't mean that the cancer is getting smaller, just that I feel physically healthy. He stood there gasping and laughing at me, saying he couldn't keep up with me. (Cris is 42, and I'm 70.) He said that my perspective is skewed; my onco said eight months ago that according to statistics, I'd be dead in less than a year, or taking chemo which would leave me weak and nauseous, but give me an additional year. And here I am bitching about feeling physically great!! We laughed and hugged. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 Rhoda, I loved your story! I am so glad you are feeling so well. I love to hear about special moments with loved ones. You have proven those doctors to be wrong. Feeling physically healthy is a very good sign and I am looking forward to the day that announce that the cancer is indeed getting smaller. This is a very good sign. You are the greatest! Love and Hugs, oleander soup , Rhoda Mead <hummingbird541 wrote:>> *My son Cris and I went for a brisk hour walk in the Oakland hills today. We> stopped at the top of a steep hill to catch our breath, and I remarked in> surprise that I feel great. I went on to say that I don't know whether it*'*s> adding glutathione to liposomal Vitamin C, or dental surgery (probably too> soon), but that feeling good probably doesn't mean that the cancer is> getting smaller, just that I feel physically healthy.> He stood there gasping and laughing at me, saying he couldn't keep up> with me. ** (Cris is 42, and I'm 70.) **He said that my perspective is> skewed; my onco said eight months ago that according to statistics, I'd be> dead in less than a year, or taking chemo which would **leave me weak and> nauseous, but give me an additional year. And here I am bitching about> feeling physically great!! We laughed and hugged! Rhoda*> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2009 Report Share Posted April 19, 2009 Wow, Rhoda, you are doing great. Nice to know you are up and about again. I can't do what you just did -- going up a hill and I am only 60. Melly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2009 Report Share Posted April 19, 2009 Duke, Does that mean mushrooms being fungus can cause C? I love shiitake and oyster mushrooms. Melly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2009 Report Share Posted April 19, 2009 Melly, Actually, I'd be very wary of shitake mushrooms if they are dried. Most packaged, dried mushrooms come from China and Lord knows what they contain. Fresh mushrooms are ok... they are domestically grown. Bob - Melly Bag oleander soup Saturday, April 18, 2009 6:42 PM Re: a great laugh today! Duke, Does that mean mushrooms being fungus can cause C? I love shiitake and oyster mushrooms. Melly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2009 Report Share Posted April 19, 2009 Melly Have you bought - read - referenced any of the books or sites that profess yeast, fungus and mold are the main culprit??????????? Spores are everywhere and when you eat the mushroom you are ingesting the reproductive part of the fungus. These spoors have only one purpose.and that is to reproduce more fungus. But they need a nice dark, warm and moist environment ------let see how about the gut or better yet that area of the lymph that isn't draining well or the areas covered in fat next to the bottom of your lungs. Researchers only get paid if they are doing research and cancer funding is available only from Pig Pharma so your not going to see anything coming from these hooked on the system bottom feeders. As per http://www.mercola.com/townofallopath/index.htm Even is there own children are dieing from the money driven misguided understanding of the subject. As Tovia would say "TRADITION"! Yes I think there is a link and wouldn't consider consuming mushrooms and I really do miss cream of mushroom casserole but the EFT has quenched my desire for it. Duke Most health problems are related to fungus in our bodies and the chemically treated rotting garbage we are offered at the Super Markets. dukestone --- On Sat, 4/18/09, Melly Bag <tita_mel wrote: Un .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2009 Report Share Posted April 19, 2009 Rhoda, Great to hear you are doing so well. I just checked my emails after 3 weeks (work, family being sick, daughter breaking her foot and then finally Easter holidays to get over it all kept me away from my pc at home for a while) and that bit of news made my day!! hugs Noelle > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 Thanks Bob. I get my mushrooms from the Farmer's Market. Just love them, make them into soup no other condiment except ginger, garlic, onion, sea salt, and water. Melly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 Duke, Would the mushroon fungus not die when i soak it in water with either hydrogen peroxide or colloidal silver for 15 minutes, then rinse it? Thanks. Melly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 No spoors don't die easily. Try another excuse and see if the answer changes. Duke Most health problems are related to fungus in our bodies and the chemically treated rotting garbage we are offered at the Super Markets. dukestone --- On Tue, 4/21/09, Melly Bag <tita_mel wrote: Melly Bag <tita_mel Re: a great laugh today!oleander soup Date: Tuesday, April 21, 2009, 8:34 AM Duke, Would the mushroon fungus not die when i soak it in water with either hydrogen peroxide or colloidal silver for 15 minutes, then rinse it? Thanks. Melly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 Are you having a bad day, Duke? oleander soup , Duke Stone <dukesdeals wrote:>> No spoors don't die easily. Try another excuse and see if the answer changes.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 "Tony" : For a while but after I watched Doug Kaufmann's int view of a very emotional person explain how her struggle stopped with a diet change and her battle of with miss diagnosis by doctors prescribing repeated Big Pharm drugs that had ruined her life was now over. Thanks for asking. Duke Most health problems are related to fungus in our bodies and the chemically treated rotting garbage we are offered at the Super Markets. dukestone --- On Tue, 4/21/09, Tony wrote: Tony Re: a great laugh today!oleander soup Date: Tuesday, April 21, 2009, 1:06 PM Are you having a bad day, Duke? Un .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 Melly, Mmmmm.... sounds delicious. Try adding some miso paste or veggie bullion (MSG free if possible) for a change of taste. Even just a dab of soy sauce will do. Bob - Melly Bag oleander soup Tuesday, April 21, 2009 6:32 AM Re: a great laugh today! Thanks Bob. I get my mushrooms from the Farmer's Market. Just love them, make them into soup no other condiment except ginger, garlic, onion, sea salt, and water. Melly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 Melly, Mushrooms are a fungus. Bob - Melly Bag oleander soup Tuesday, April 21, 2009 6:34 AM Re: a great laugh today! Duke, Would the mushroon fungus not die when i soak it in water with either hydrogen peroxide or colloidal silver for 15 minutes, then rinse it? Thanks. Melly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 Oh Duke, it makes me sad to give up mushrooms. Thanks for the advice. Melly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 Melly, The fungus family is like the plant family, some of its members will kill you dead, others will make you sick, others will heal you and others will feed you. Giving up mushrooms because they are a fungus is like giving up vegetables and herbs because they come from the same family as poisonous plants. Ruth PS: Yeast is a fungus oleander soup , Melly Bag <tita_mel wrote: > > Oh Duke, it makes me sad to give up mushrooms. Thanks for the advice. > > Melly > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 Ruth, In reality yeast is also not good for you. Many are in fact allergic to it. Bob - " Ruth Harris " <phoophh <oleander soup > Wednesday, April 22, 2009 1:13 AM Re: a great laugh today! Melly, The fungus family is like the plant family, some of its members will kill you dead, others will make you sick, others will heal you and others will feed you. Giving up mushrooms because they are a fungus is like giving up vegetables and herbs because they come from the same family as poisonous plants. Ruth PS: Yeast is a fungus oleander soup , Melly Bag <tita_mel wrote: > > Oh Duke, it makes me sad to give up mushrooms. Thanks for the advice. > > Melly > --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 Bob, It depends upon the yeast. Some of the probiotics in our gut are yeasts and these friendly yeasts help control the pathogenic ones. As a former victim of a very bad candida yeast infection I am very familiar with yeast issues and the allergies and sensitivities that can develop. http://www.horizonpress.com/cimb/v/v11/47.pdf Ruth oleander soup , " Bob Banever " <bbanever wrote: > > Ruth, > > In reality yeast is also not good for you. Many are in fact allergic > to it. > > Bob > - > " Ruth Harris " <phoophh > <oleander soup > > Wednesday, April 22, 2009 1:13 AM > Re: a great laugh today! > > > Melly, > > The fungus family is like the plant family, some of its members will kill > you dead, others will make you sick, others will heal you and others will > feed you. Giving up mushrooms because they are a fungus is like giving up > vegetables and herbs because they come from the same family as poisonous > plants. > > Ruth > > PS: Yeast is a fungus > > > oleander soup , Melly Bag <tita_mel@> wrote: > > > > Oh Duke, it makes me sad to give up mushrooms. Thanks for the advice. > > > > Melly > > > > > > > --- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 Bob is right, Nutritional Yeast is a perfect example considered a "wonder food" and technically a fungus it is rich in B-Complex has 18 amino acids and 15 minerals it is often used in vegan/vegetarian recipes and taste delicious. It is used in the fantastic becoming quite famous and popular "Cheesey Kale Chips" that even people who eat terrible and live off junk food love. They are raw vegan (dehydrated) and very cheesey. Nutritional Yeast makes very good vegan macaroni & cheese. Tammatha - Ruth Harris oleander soup Thursday, April 23, 2009 10:49 AM Re: a great laugh today! Bob,It depends upon the yeast. Some of the probiotics in our gut are yeasts and these friendly yeasts help control the pathogenic ones. As a former victim of a very bad candida yeast infection I am very familiar with yeast issues and the allergies and sensitivities that can develop.http://www.horizonpress.com/cimb/v/v11/47.pdfRuth--- In oleander soup , "Bob Banever" <bbanever wrote:>> Ruth,> > In reality yeast is also not good for you. Many are in fact allergic > to it.> > Bob> - > "Ruth Harris" <phoophh> <oleander soup >> Wednesday, April 22, 2009 1:13 AM> Re: a great laugh today!> > > Melly,> > The fungus family is like the plant family, some of its members will kill > you dead, others will make you sick, others will heal you and others will > feed you. Giving up mushrooms because they are a fungus is like giving up > vegetables and herbs because they come from the same family as poisonous > plants.> > Ruth> > PS: Yeast is a fungus> > > oleander soup , Melly Bag <tita_mel@> wrote:> >> > Oh Duke, it makes me sad to give up mushrooms. Thanks for the advice.> >> > Melly> >> > > > > ---> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 Tammatha,Do you have a recipe for these cheesy kale chips? I would love to make them for myself. Sent from my iPhoneOn Apr 23, 2009, at 13:38, "Tammatha" <tammatha wrote: Bob is right, Nutritional Yeast is a perfect example considered a "wonder food" and technically a fungus it is rich in B-Complex has 18 amino acids and 15 minerals it is often used in vegan/vegetarian recipes and taste delicious. It is used in the fantastic becoming quite famous and popular "Cheesey Kale Chips" that even people who eat terrible and live off junk food love. They are raw vegan (dehydrated) and very cheesey. Nutritional Yeast makes very good vegan macaroni & cheese. Tammatha - Ruth Harris oleander soup Thursday, April 23, 2009 10:49 AM Re: a great laugh today! Bob,It depends upon the yeast. Some of the probiotics in our gut are yeasts and these friendly yeasts help control the pathogenic ones. As a former victim of a very bad candida yeast infection I am very familiar with yeast issues and the allergies and sensitivities that can develop.http://www.horizonpress.com/cimb/v/v11/47.pdfRuth--- In oleander soup , "Bob Banever" <bbanever wrote:>> Ruth,> > In reality yeast is also not good for you. Many are in fact allergic > to it.> > Bob> - > "Ruth Harris" <phoophh> <oleander soup >> Wednesday, April 22, 2009 1:13 AM> Re: a great laugh today!> > > Melly,> > The fungus family is like the plant family, some of its members will kill > you dead, others will make you sick, others will heal you and others will > feed you. Giving up mushrooms because they are a fungus is like giving up > vegetables and herbs because they come from the same family as poisonous > plants.> > Ruth> > PS: Yeast is a fungus> > > oleander soup , Melly Bag <tita_mel@> wrote:> >> > Oh Duke, it makes me sad to give up mushrooms. Thanks for the advice.> >> > Melly> >> > > > > ---> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 No sorry I don't I'm not much of a cook or should I say "uncook". I buy them. I know they take quite a bit of doing. Matt Monarch from the rawfoodworld.com interviewed the owner of the company "Blessings" that makes them and it was shown how they are made in her kitchen and it is all done by hand, each piece of Kale is separately prepared, amazing! Tammatha - resurictions apply, results may vary oleander soup Wednesday, May 06, 2009 12:53 PM Re: Re: a great laugh today! Tammatha, Do you have a recipe for these cheesy kale chips? I would love to make them for myself. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 23, 2009, at 13:38, "Tammatha" <tammatha (AT) sonic (DOT) net> wrote: Bob is right, Nutritional Yeast is a perfect example considered a "wonder food" and technically a fungus it is rich in B-Complex has 18 amino acids and 15 minerals it is often used in vegan/vegetarian recipes and taste delicious. It is used in the fantastic becoming quite famous and popular "Cheesey Kale Chips" that even people who eat terrible and live off junk food love. They are raw vegan (dehydrated) and very cheesey. Nutritional Yeast makes very good vegan macaroni & cheese. Tammatha - Ruth Harris oleander soup Thursday, April 23, 2009 10:49 AM Re: a great laugh today! Bob,It depends upon the yeast. Some of the probiotics in our gut are yeasts and these friendly yeasts help control the pathogenic ones. As a former victim of a very bad candida yeast infection I am very familiar with yeast issues and the allergies and sensitivities that can develop.http://www.horizonpress.com/cimb/v/v11/47.pdfRuth--- In oleander soup , "Bob Banever" <bbanever wrote:>> Ruth,> > In reality yeast is also not good for you. Many are in fact allergic > to it.> > Bob> - > "Ruth Harris" <phoophh> <oleander soup >> Wednesday, April 22, 2009 1:13 AM> Re: a great laugh today!> > > Melly,> > The fungus family is like the plant family, some of its members will kill > you dead, others will make you sick, others will heal you and others will > feed you. Giving up mushrooms because they are a fungus is like giving up > vegetables and herbs because they come from the same family as poisonous > plants.> > Ruth> > PS: Yeast is a fungus> > > oleander soup , Melly Bag <tita_mel@> wrote:> >> > Oh Duke, it makes me sad to give up mushrooms. Thanks for the advice.> >> > Melly> >> > > > > ---> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 Easy to find on google- Cheesy Kale Chips Ingredients: 1 large bunch of curly, green kale, washed, large stems removed, torn into bite size pieces COATING: 1 cup cashews, (soaked 2 hours) 1 red bell pepper, seeded and chopped juice of 1 lemon 2 t. agave (optional-I don't add, I like them more salty + savory) 1 T. nutritional yeast 1/2 t. himalayan pink crystal salt (use more or less to taste) Preparation: Put coating ingredients in Vitamix. Blend until smooth. Using your hands, massage coating onto kale pieces getting it inside of curls. Put on teflex sheets (don't worry about flattening them, they're better bunched up) and dehydrate at 105 overnight or until coating is dry. Slide onto mesh screens and dehydrate 12 hours, or until very crispy. ** note: mine just took about another 4 hours after overnight and flipping. YUM! ========================== Since cashews are not on the Budwig diet I suppose you could substitute some other nut. Nancy oleander soup , " resurictions apply, results may vary " <restrictionsapply wrote: > > Tammatha, > > Do you have a recipe for these cheesy kale chips? > > I would love to make them for myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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