Inositol/IP6 and other supplements - Matthew & the rest of the group

April 17, 2009

For the sake of economy, you can order regular Cell Forte with Inositol/IP6 from Utopia Silver for only $15.94 per bottle when you use our group discount code of LR001. It has the same amount of inositol/IP6 as the Max3, but leaves off the cat's claw and maitake.

Should you decide to go with HerbsPro it would be nice if you used my affiliate link. You pay the same price but I get a smidgen of affiliate sales money.

In fact, I encourage (or is that implore?) everyone to first take a look at the Supplements section of my website as their first option when looking for supplements. By all means, by what you want from whom you want, but I think you will find that I have done a pretty good job of finding companies with the best products as well as prices in many, many instances - especially those that most fit the protocol I suggest.

Thanks!

oleander soup , "matthewalanmoore" <poppers5 wrote:>> Well it's 4 days later and the liver cleanse seems to have cleared out> my digestive tract and normalized my bowel movements. If I ever decide to do that again I will try the lemon juice. I started the OPC on Monday and am now taking 1.5 teaspoons 3 times daily. My goal is to get to a tablespoon per serving. > I plan on adding Inositol/IP6 to my protocol. My question is on brand. There is Cell Forte Max3, but at the maxium dosage of 16 caps per day, you would blow through a bottle of 60 in less than 4 days at a cost of $31.50 plus shipping. Thats 8 bottles per month costing $252.00 plus shipping. Will other brands be sufficent for getting the Inositol/IP6 or is the Cell Forte Max3 the only brand being reported by users to be getting results? > > Matthew Moore> >

April 17, 2009

Hey Tony.

That should do it! With all the supplements I have purchased over 2.5 years I

could buy a house! So any discount is helpful.

I do have a question for you. Yesterday I had what I call a delete day and was

bound hand and foot into a Golden Corral. Big mistake. Anyway, I started feeling

off 2 or 3 hours later and ended ups with the shakes, coughing, hacking,

headache, flem, runny nose, a fever of 102.5 etc. So my question is could this

be a Herkheimers reaction or is it more likely a flu. I started OPC on Monday

and had taken 1.5 teaspoons twice yesterday, along with 4 drops of Iodine, 2

selenium, 4 Immpower, Vitiman d3, a B complex, cottage cheese with flax oil and

tumeric, some baking soda and magnesium. I still have a massive headache,

occasional coughing with flem and low grade fever. It's 9:00 pm so this has gone

on about 24 hours.

Thanks,

Matthew Moore

oleander soup , " Tony " wrote:

>

> For the sake of economy, you can order regular Cell Forte with

> Inositol/IP6

> <http://www.utopiasilver.com/affiliates/jrox.php?id=18 & jxURL=http://www.\

> utopiasilver.com/products/supplements/cellforte.htm> from Utopia Silver

> for only $15.94 per bottle when you use our group discount code of

> LR001. It has the same amount of inositol/IP6 as the Max3, but leaves

> off the cat's claw and maitake.

>

> Should you decide to go with HerbsPro

> <http://www.shareasale.com/r.cfm?b=58066 & u=244842 & m=10220 & urllink= & afftr\

> ack=> it would be nice if you used my affiliate link. You pay the same

> price but I get a smidgen of affiliate sales money.

>

> In fact, I encourage (or is that implore?) everyone to first take a look

> at the Supplements section </Supplements.htm> of my

> website as their first option when looking for supplements. By all

> means, by what you want from whom you want, but I think you will find

> that I have done a pretty good job of finding companies with the best

> products as well as prices in many, many instances - especially those

> that most fit the protocol I suggest.

>

> Thanks!

>

> >

>

> oleander soup , " matthewalanmoore " <poppers5@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Well it's 4 days later and the liver cleanse seems to have cleared out

> > my digestive tract and normalized my bowel movements. If I ever decide

> to do that again I will try the lemon juice. I started the OPC on Monday

> and am now taking 1.5 teaspoons 3 times daily. My goal is to get to a

> tablespoon per serving.

> > I plan on adding Inositol/IP6 to my protocol. My question is on brand.

> There is Cell Forte Max3, but at the maxium dosage of 16 caps per day,

> you would blow through a bottle of 60 in less than 4 days at a cost of

> $31.50 plus shipping. Thats 8 bottles per month costing $252.00 plus

> shipping. Will other brands be sufficent for getting the Inositol/IP6 or

> is the Cell Forte Max3 the only brand being reported by users to be

> getting results?

> >

> > Matthew Moore

> >

>

April 17, 2009

Hi Matthew,

This is and I'm sure Tony will be along to reply to you but I just had to jump in here. This is soooooo familiar. You are detoxing and having a Herxheimer reaction. When I first started taking Oleander I had these symptoms for a week, together with a constant low grade fever. I was even in bed at times. And I don't have cancer. But I must say I had just found natural health and I used to be a junk food junkie, so my body had a lot of cleaning out to do.

This will pass. But from my personal experience, if you feel bad enough that you need to rest, do so.

oleander soup , "matthewalanmoore" <poppers5 wrote:>> Hey Tony.> > That should do it! With all the supplements I have purchased over 2.5 years I could buy a house! So any discount is helpful. > I do have a question for you. Yesterday I had what I call a delete day and was bound hand and foot into a Golden Corral. Big mistake. Anyway, I started feeling off 2 or 3 hours later and ended ups with the shakes, coughing, hacking, headache, flem, runny nose, a fever of 102.5 etc. So my question is could this be a Herkheimers reaction or is it more likely a flu. I started OPC on Monday and had taken 1.5 teaspoons twice yesterday, along with 4 drops of Iodine, 2 selenium, 4 Immpower, Vitiman d3, a B complex, cottage cheese with flax oil and tumeric, some baking soda and magnesium. I still have a massive headache, occasional coughing with flem and low grade fever. It's 9:00 pm so this has gone on about 24 hours. > > Thanks,> > Matthew Moore>

April 17, 2009

Matthew -

Given the limitations of a non professional trying to help long distance via the internet, I would say that it sounds more like a bug of some kind. If it were me I would load up on colloidal silver (I take the Utopia Silver Advanced Colloidal Silver, which is also a good cancer fighter by the way), taking perhaps four ounces initially and a couple of ounces every few hours (and when the bug is gone, take a good probiotic for awhile) as well as doubling or tripling up on echinacea and taking some crushed garlic too and plenty of liquids. When I do that it normally eliminates just about any bug in pretty short order.

If you are looking to economize, and aren't we all, I will also mention that you can get a very good home silver generator from Utopia Silver called the Silver Bullet for less than $100 with the group discount, including a timer. It is a no-frills unit but it makes a quite good 70% ionic, 30% colloidal silver solution for pennies a gallon that is fine for every day use AND when you buy one you get a lifetime buy-one get-one free offer for purchasing the really good stuff (Advanced Colloidal Silver) for times when something really tough comes along (like MRSA, Crohn's, Lyme, and other serious infections/conditions where pathogens are involved).

Herx is always a possibility, but actually I have found it more common with colloidal silver because of how well it wipes out pathogens.

I am not a huge fan of baking soda personally. I do like a product a lot called OxyGen, where a normal dose supplies the same amount of oxygen as six drops of H2O2.

Keep us posted on how you are doing.

oleander soup , "matthewalanmoore" <poppers5 wrote:>> Hey Tony.> > That should do it! With all the supplements I have purchased over 2.5 years I could buy a house! So any discount is helpful. > I do have a question for you. Yesterday I had what I call a delete day and was bound hand and foot into a Golden Corral. Big mistake. Anyway, I started feeling off 2 or 3 hours later and ended ups with the shakes, coughing, hacking, headache, flem, runny nose, a fever of 102.5 etc. So my question is could this be a Herkheimers reaction or is it more likely a flu. I started OPC on Monday and had taken 1.5 teaspoons twice yesterday, along with 4 drops of Iodine, 2 selenium, 4 Immpower, Vitiman d3, a B complex, cottage cheese with flax oil and tumeric, some baking soda and magnesium. I still have a massive headache, occasional coughing with flem and low grade fever. It's 9:00 pm so this has gone on about 24 hours. > > Thanks,> > Matthew Moore> > > > > oleander soup , "Tony" @ wrote:> >> > > > For the sake of economy, you can order regular Cell Forte with> > Inositol/IP6> > <http://www.utopiasilver.com/affiliates/jrox.php?id=18 & jxURL=http://www.\> > utopiasilver.com/products/supplements/cellforte.htm> from Utopia Silver> > for only $15.94 per bottle when you use our group discount code of> > LR001. It has the same amount of inositol/IP6 as the Max3, but leaves> > off the cat's claw and maitake.> > > > Should you decide to go with HerbsPro> > <http://www.shareasale.com/r.cfm?b=58066 & u=244842 & m=10220 & urllink= & afftr\> > ack=> it would be nice if you used my affiliate link. You pay the same> > price but I get a smidgen of affiliate sales money.> > > > In fact, I encourage (or is that implore?) everyone to first take a look> > at the Supplements section </Supplements.htm> of my> > website as their first option when looking for supplements. By all> > means, by what you want from whom you want, but I think you will find> > that I have done a pretty good job of finding companies with the best> > products as well as prices in many, many instances - especially those> > that most fit the protocol I suggest.> > > > Thanks!> > > > Tony> > > > > > oleander soup , "matthewalanmoore" <poppers5@>> > wrote:> > >> > > Well it's 4 days later and the liver cleanse seems to have cleared out> > > my digestive tract and normalized my bowel movements. If I ever decide> > to do that again I will try the lemon juice. I started the OPC on Monday> > and am now taking 1.5 teaspoons 3 times daily. My goal is to get to a> > tablespoon per serving.> > > I plan on adding Inositol/IP6 to my protocol. My question is on brand.> > There is Cell Forte Max3, but at the maxium dosage of 16 caps per day,> > you would blow through a bottle of 60 in less than 4 days at a cost of> > $31.50 plus shipping. Thats 8 bottles per month costing $252.00 plus> > shipping. Will other brands be sufficent for getting the Inositol/IP6 or> > is the Cell Forte Max3 the only brand being reported by users to be> > getting results?> > >> > > Matthew Moore> > >> > >> >>

April 18, 2009

Hey ,

Wow that was intense if that was a Herxheimer reaction. I was sick all day today

as well (the second day) with a temp of 102 and higher all day. Needless to say

I was in bed all day. Today it was mainly fever, headache, coughing w/green

flem, sore throat. I managed to do some protocol today, and added collodial

silver water since my throat felt sore. My temp is down now but that may be

because I took some Alleve. Thanks for jumping in , it's good having

others that can speak into the process.

Matthew Moore

oleander soup , " May " <luellamay129 wrote:

>

> Hi Matthew,

>

> This is and I'm sure Tony will be along to reply to you but I

> just had to jump in here. This is soooooo familiar. You are detoxing

> and having a Herxheimer reaction. When I first started taking Oleander

> I had these symptoms for a week, together with a constant low grade

> fever. I was even in bed at times. And I don't have cancer. But I

> must say I had just found natural health and I used to be a junk food

> junkie, so my body had a lot of cleaning out to do.

>

> This will pass. But from my personal experience, if you feel bad enough

> that you need to rest, do so.

>

> oleander soup , " matthewalanmoore " <poppers5@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Hey Tony.

> >

> > That should do it! With all the supplements I have purchased over 2.5

> years I could buy a house! So any discount is helpful.

> > I do have a question for you. Yesterday I had what I call a delete day

> and was bound hand and foot into a Golden Corral. Big mistake. Anyway, I

> started feeling off 2 or 3 hours later and ended ups with the shakes,

> coughing, hacking, headache, flem, runny nose, a fever of 102.5 etc. So

> my question is could this be a Herkheimers reaction or is it more likely

> a flu. I started OPC on Monday and had taken 1.5 teaspoons twice

> yesterday, along with 4 drops of Iodine, 2 selenium, 4 Immpower, Vitiman

> d3, a B complex, cottage cheese with flax oil and tumeric, some baking

> soda and magnesium. I still have a massive headache, occasional coughing

> with flem and low grade fever. It's 9:00 pm so this has gone on about 24

> hours.

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > Matthew Moore

> >

>

April 22, 2009

Ummmm....... Matthew, your symptoms are a little intense. I don't believe Herxheimer is that bad. I think you may have some kind of infection. Green phlegm is a sign of infection and it sounds like your temperature may have gone a little beyond low grade. Take "gobs" of colloidal silver and I do hope you feel better soon. In the meantime, please take care of yourself and rest.

Warm regards,

oleander soup , "matthewalanmoore" <poppers5 wrote:>> Hey ,> > Wow that was intense if that was a Herxheimer reaction. I was sick all day today as well (the second day) with a temp of 102 and higher all day. Needless to say I was in bed all day. Today it was mainly fever, headache, coughing w/green flem, sore throat. I managed to do some protocol today, and added collodial silver water since my throat felt sore. My temp is down now but that may be because I took some Alleve. Thanks for jumping in , it's good having others that can speak into the process.> > Matthew Moore> > >

April 22, 2009

That's right. Green sputum is a sign of a bacterial infection, often pseudomonas or haemophilus influenzae.

Mike--- On Tue, 4/21/09, May <luellamay129 wrote:

May <luellamay129 Re: Inositol/IP6 and other supplements - Matthew & the rest of the groupoleander soup Date: Tuesday, April 21, 2009, 11:09 PM

Ummmm....... Matthew, your symptoms are a little intense. I don't believe Herxheimer is that bad. I think you may have some kind of infection. Green phlegm is a sign of infection and it sounds like your temperature may have gone a little beyond low grade. Take "gobs" of colloidal silver and I do hope you feel better soon. In the meantime, please take care of yourself and rest.

Warm regards,

oleander soup, "matthewalanmoore" <poppers5 wrote:>> Hey ,> > Wow that was intense if that was a Herxheimer reaction. I was sick all day today as well (the second day) with a temp of 102 and higher all day. Needless to say I was in bed all day. Today it was mainly fever, headache, coughing w/green flem, sore throat. I managed to do some protocol today, and added collodial silver water since my throat felt sore. My temp is down now but that may be because I took some Alleve. Thanks for jumping in , it's good having others that can speak into the process.> > Matthew Moore> > >

April 22, 2009

Hey ,

Yeah, they were intense. Taking Collodial Silver helps some, but things moved

very quickly once I did some MMS. I accidently ended up squirting the last drop

and instead of 8 drops I probably ended up with around 15. A bit more than I was

ready for!!! Well that kept me bathroom bound for the rest of the evening but my

temperature fell like a rock. I did two doses of 8 drops today that kept me home

bound again, but the discharge is not that thick green stuff it was, and the

temp is very slight. For yesterday and today I suspended most of the protocol

except for the iodine as I was concerned that my system would probably be

overloaded with fighting on too many fronts. I will do one more round of MMS

tomorrow, probably more like 6 drops at a time, and then return to the protocol

in full force.

I had read somewhere that the iodine was as effective as MMS, but it was not

until I did the MMS that the phelm changed and temp dropped. I am doing 6 drops

of iodine a day currently. Maybe more iodine would have done the trick.

On the level of gross things to take, I think MMS wins that contest, I can't

stand to smell it for the 3 minutes it takes to develope with the citric acid.

(I keep it covered) and use lots of apple juice. I've taken lots of MMS so I'm

pretty sensitive to it - aaaaahhhhhh.

One question I do have is how do I stop weight loss and muscle loss? I'm getting

a little on the scrawny side.

Matthew

oleander soup , " May " <luellamay129 wrote:

>

> Ummmm....... Matthew, your symptoms are a little intense. I don't

> believe Herxheimer is that bad. I think you may have some kind of

> infection. Green phlegm is a sign of infection and it sounds like your

> temperature may have gone a little beyond low grade. Take " gobs " of

> colloidal silver and I do hope you feel better soon. In the meantime,

> please take care of yourself and rest.

>

> Warm regards,

>

> oleander soup , " matthewalanmoore " <poppers5@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Hey ,

> >

> > Wow that was intense if that was a Herxheimer reaction. I was sick all

> day today as well (the second day) with a temp of 102 and higher all

> day. Needless to say I was in bed all day. Today it was mainly fever,

> headache, coughing w/green flem, sore throat. I managed to do some

> protocol today, and added collodial silver water since my throat felt

> sore. My temp is down now but that may be because I took some Alleve.

> Thanks for jumping in , it's good having others that can speak

> into the process.

> >

> > Matthew Moore

> >

>

April 22, 2009

Hi Matthew,Hydrazine sulphate is very good for muscle wasting and cachexia. I looked into it around October last year when I kept losing weight after surgery for my Liposarcoma. Fortunately I happened on the right diet for me and I am over 120lb again. Here is an excerpt from Essense-of-Life re Hydrazine. CancerTutor also recommends Larry as the vendor for this product, however I am sure there are other places it can be sourced from.Eva.WARNING! Hydrazine Sulfate is an MAOI or Monoamine Oxidase Inhibitor.

Cancer's

main devastating effect on the body is cachexia, the wasting away of

the body characterized by weight loss and eventual debilitation.

Hydrazine sulfate was first proposed as an anticachexia agent based on

its inhibition of the gluconeogenic enzyme, phosphoenolpyruvate

carboxykinase.*

More About Hydrazine Sulfate

Joseph Gold, M.D., director of the Syracuse Cancer Research Institute,

is the developer of hydrazine sulfate as an anticachexia drug.

Hydrazine

sulfate was first proposed as an anticachexia agent based on its

inhibition of the gluconeogenic enzyme, phosphoenolpyruvate

carboxykinase.

Cancer's

main devastating effect on the body is cachexia, the wasting away of

the body characterized by weight loss and eventual debilitation.

Cancer

cells depend on sugar to feed and grow. The sugar consumed by the

cancer cells is generated mainly from the liver, which converts lactic

acid into glucose. Normal cells derive glucose from the food we eat,

not from lactic acid..

When

cancer cells use sugar (glucose) as fuel, they only partially

metabolize it. Lactic acid - the waste product of this incomplete

combustion - spills into the blood and is taken up by the liver. The

liver then recycles the lactic acid back into glucose, and the sugar is

consumed in ever-increasing amounts by voracious cancer cells in a

vicious cycle.

Prospectively

randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled studies have indicated

that Hydrazine Sulfate: (a) normalized abnormal glucose metabolism, (b)

resulted in increased effectiveness of ingested calories, © caused

weight gain or weight stabilization, (d) reversed protein breakdown and

muscle wasting, (e) maintained serum albumin levels, and (f) resulted

in statistically significant survival increase in lung cancer patients.

MAO Inhibitor

Hydrazine

Sulfate is an MAO Inhibitor, meaning it inhibits an enzyme that breaks

down monoamines (serotonin, norepinephrine, and dopamine), the brain

chemicals that make us happy. MAO inhibitors have been used as antidepressants

Warning:

Hydrazine Sulfate is an irreversible and potent MAO (monoamine oxidase)

inhibitor, a class of compounds that can have potentially deadly

interactions with other drugs. For over three decades it has been known

that central nervous system depressantsâ€”such as barbiturates,

tranquilizers and alcoholâ€”are incompatible with MAO inhibitors and use

of the two together could result in extremely dangerous effects.

Warning: MAOs

have another job in the body, however: they metabolize tyramine, an

amino acid. When taking an MAO inhibitor, tyramine is not broken down,

and eating foods with tyramine can raise your blood pressure and heart

beat dramatically and cause severe headaches. This is a very dangerous

condition, especially for someone already battling cancer. Most foods

containing tyramine are not on a recommended cancer diet plan, and

should be avoided even if not using Hydrazine Sulfate.

Foods

to avoid that contain tyramine are mainly aged, fermented, or pickled,

such as most cheeses, lunch meats, hot dogs, yogurt, wines and beers.

Here is a list of some foods that contain tyramine:

Dry and fermented sausage (bologna, salami, pepperoni, corned beef, and

liver), pickled herring and salted dried fish, broad beans and pods

(lima, fava beans, lentils, snow peas, and soy beans), meat extracts,

yeast extracts/brewer's yeast, beer and ale, red wine (chianti,

burgundy, sherry, vermouth), sauerkraut, some fruits (bananas,

avacados, canned figs, raisins, red plums, raspberries, pinapples),

cultured dairy products (buttermilk, yogurt, and sour cream),

chocolate, caffeine (coffee, tea, and cola drinks), white wine, port

wines, distilled spirits, soy sauce, miso, peanuts, almonds, beef or

chicken liver, herring, meat tenderizer, MSG (Accent), pickles, and

pumpkin seeds. In general, any high protein food that has undergone

aging should be avoided. Also, any over-the-counter cold or allergy

remedy should also be avoided.

And, as always, check with your doctor or nutritionist if you have a question.

Sources:

â€“The Truth About Hydrazine Sulfate by Dr. Joseph Gold, M.D.

â€“Options: The Alternative Cancer Therapy Book by Richard Walters

â€“http://www.seniors-site.com/altmed/

April 22, 2009

Hi Matthew,

So glad you are better. Is your phlegm light yellow or is it getting towards clear? Make sure you are well. When Mike Golden mentioned that green phlegm was a sign of pseudomonis (not sure if that is the correct spelling), I became very concerned, as I have had personal experience with this virus. Well, not with me, but with my mom. And in some cases it can be very hard to get rid of so make sure that you are well. I would make sure to take colloidal silver every single day. Don't take for granted just because you are feeling better that you are well. Make sure you are well.

As for losing muscle tone, I would suggest that you exercise and build your body up. Do what you can, it doesn't have to be strenuous. As for losing weight, we tend to lose quite a bit of weight when on a raw diet. Maybe others will pop in and suggest what you can do to regain some of that weight.

Anyway, I am so glad you are feeling better. Just keep taking care of yourself, rest when you must, and make sure that you are well.

Warm regards,

oleander soup , "matthewalanmoore" <poppers5 wrote:>> Hey ,> > Yeah, they were intense. Taking Collodial Silver helps some, but things moved very quickly once I did some MMS. I accidently ended up squirting the last drop and instead of 8 drops I probably ended up with around 15. A bit more than I was ready for!!! Well that kept me bathroom bound for the rest of the evening but my temperature fell like a rock. I did two doses of 8 drops today that kept me home bound again, but the discharge is not that thick green stuff it was, and the temp is very slight. For yesterday and today I suspended most of the protocol except for the iodine as I was concerned that my system would probably be overloaded with fighting on too many fronts. I will do one more round of MMS tomorrow, probably more like 6 drops at a time, and then return to the protocol in full force. > I had read somewhere that the iodine was as effective as MMS, but it was not until I did the MMS that the phelm changed and temp dropped. I am doing 6 drops of iodine a day currently. Maybe more iodine would have done the trick. > On the level of gross things to take, I think MMS wins that contest, I can't stand to smell it for the 3 minutes it takes to develope with the citric acid. (I keep it covered) and use lots of apple juice. I've taken lots of MMS so I'm pretty sensitive to it - aaaaahhhhhh.> > One question I do have is how do I stop weight loss and muscle loss? I'm getting a little on the scrawny side. > > Matthew>

April 22, 2009

Hey !,

The phlegm is mostly clear, with a little of the thick green stuff from time to

time. I'm not sure if you know what MMS is but it is called Miracle Mineral

Supplement. When mixed with Citric Acid it becomes Chlorine Dioxide. It kills

anything that has a lower ph than your body, including diseased cells,

parasites, fungus, bacteria, molds, virus' etc. by stripping 5 electrons

violently from the offending organism. Amazingly it won't kill the flora in your

intestines unless you take massive amounts of it. Of course there is a down side

to it. It smells and taste exactly like chlorine. The sicker you are the less

you can tolerate at once. And after taking it for a period of time, you can

become so sensitive to it that even the mere mention of it is nauseating.

The up side is that it destroys malaria in a few hours, and even aids and Hep C

when given by IV. You can find out lot by googling MMS. It is said to be able to

conquer cancer, if taken long enough in high enough doses. And there is the

proverbial rub. That dosage of around 15 to 20 drops two to three times a day

would be really tough for someone with advanced cancer. It would cause nausea

and vomiting since someone with advanced cancer is generally pretty sick and it

would be causing an extreme herxheimers reaction.

I did a short term protocol with it where after using it for 2 weeks at a

moderate dose, you take 10 drops every hour for 12 hours, some orally and some

with dmso trans-dermally. The DMSO messed up my skin for days afterwards, but

the cancer was not abated.

It is great for dealing with pneumonia, colds, flu, malaria etc. And it may be

something to add as part of an ongoing protocol, keeping infections at bay etc

and who knows maybe eventually destroying the microbes inside the cancer cells

that are causing the cell to be diseased.

I would say that MMS is better than any antibiotic as no resistance can be built

to MMS. It was stated in the online book about it that it would be like building

a resistance to a hand-grenade. (ka-BOOM!)

Thank you for your concern , you're a blessing!

Matthew Moore

oleander soup , " May " <luellamay129 wrote:

>

> Hi Matthew,

>

> So glad you are better. Is your phlegm light yellow or is it getting

> towards clear? Make sure you are well. When Mike Golden mentioned that

> green phlegm was a sign of pseudomonis (not sure if that is the correct

> spelling), I became very concerned, as I have had personal experience

> with this virus. Well, not with me, but with my mom. And in some cases

> it can be very hard to get rid of so make sure that you are well. I

> would make sure to take colloidal silver every single day. Don't take

> for granted just because you are feeling better that you are well. Make

> sure you are well.

>

> As for losing muscle tone, I would suggest that you exercise and build

> your body up. Do what you can, it doesn't have to be strenuous. As for

> losing weight, we tend to lose quite a bit of weight when on a raw diet.

> Maybe others will pop in and suggest what you can do to regain some of

> that weight.

>

> Anyway, I am so glad you are feeling better. Just keep taking care of

> yourself, rest when you must, and make sure that you are well.

>

> Warm regards,

>

> oleander soup , " matthewalanmoore " <poppers5@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Hey ,

> >

> > Yeah, they were intense. Taking Collodial Silver helps some, but

> things moved very quickly once I did some MMS. I accidently ended up

> squirting the last drop and instead of 8 drops I probably ended up with

> around 15. A bit more than I was ready for!!! Well that kept me bathroom

> bound for the rest of the evening but my temperature fell like a rock. I

> did two doses of 8 drops today that kept me home bound again, but the

> discharge is not that thick green stuff it was, and the temp is very

> slight. For yesterday and today I suspended most of the protocol except

> for the iodine as I was concerned that my system would probably be

> overloaded with fighting on too many fronts. I will do one more round of

> MMS tomorrow, probably more like 6 drops at a time, and then return to

> the protocol in full force.

> > I had read somewhere that the iodine was as effective as MMS, but it

> was not until I did the MMS that the phelm changed and temp dropped. I

> am doing 6 drops of iodine a day currently. Maybe more iodine would have

> done the trick.

> > On the level of gross things to take, I think MMS wins that contest, I

> can't stand to smell it for the 3 minutes it takes to develope with the

> citric acid. (I keep it covered) and use lots of apple juice. I've taken

> lots of MMS so I'm pretty sensitive to it - aaaaahhhhhh.

> >

> > One question I do have is how do I stop weight loss and muscle loss?

> I'm getting a little on the scrawny side.

> >

> > Matthew

> >

>

April 22, 2009

Hey Eva,

Well that sound like a solution with a cost. There are a couple of questions

that I have concerning hydrazine sulphate. One is the statement that it is an

irreversible and potent MAO (monoamine oxidase). What does that mean???

Another concern is the list of foods that can result in high blood pressure and

blinding headache. Is there anything you could take to counteract that reaction?

And last but not least is for how long would you have to take it, until the

cancer was gone?

Thanks,

Matthew Moore

oleander soup , eklein.otis wrote:

>

> Hi Matthew,

>

> Hydrazine sulphate is very good for muscle wasting and cachexia.Â I looked

into it around October last year when I kept losing weight after surgery for my

Liposarcoma.Â Fortunately I happened on the right diet for me and I am over

120lb again.Â

>

> Here is an excerpt from Essense-of-Life re Hydrazine.Â CancerTutor also

recommends Larry as the vendor for this product, however I am sure there are

other places it can be sourced from.

>

> Eva.

>

> WARNING! Hydrazine Sulfate is an MAOI or Monoamine Oxidase Inhibitor.

>

> Cancer's

> main devastating effect on the body is cachexia, the wasting away of

> the body characterized by weight loss and eventual debilitation.

> Hydrazine sulfate was first proposed as an anticachexia agent based on

> its inhibition of the gluconeogenic enzyme, phosphoenolpyruvate

> carboxykinase.*

>

More About Hydrazine Sulfate

>

> Joseph Gold, M.D., director of the Syracuse Cancer Research Institute,

> is the developer of hydrazine sulfate as an anticachexia drug.

>

> Hydrazine

> sulfate was first proposed as an anticachexia agent based on its

> inhibition of the gluconeogenic enzyme, phosphoenolpyruvate

> carboxykinase.

>

> Cancer's

> main devastating effect on the body is cachexia, the wasting away of

> the body characterized by weight loss and eventual debilitation.

>

> Cancer

> cells depend on sugar to feed and grow. The sugar consumed by the

> cancer cells is generated mainly from the liver, which converts lactic

> acid into glucose. Normal cells derive glucose from the food we eat,

> not from lactic acid.

>

> When

> cancer cells use sugar (glucose) as fuel, they only partially

> metabolize it. Lactic acid - the waste product of this incomplete

> combustion - spills into the blood and is taken up by the liver. The

> liver then recycles the lactic acid back into glucose, and the sugar is

> consumed in ever-increasing amounts by voracious cancer cells in a

> vicious cycle.

>

> Prospectively

> randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled studies have indicated

> that Hydrazine Sulfate: (a) normalized abnormal glucose metabolism, (b)

> resulted in increased effectiveness of ingested calories, © caused

> weight gain or weight stabilization, (d) reversed protein breakdown and

> muscle wasting, (e) maintained serum albumin levels, and (f) resulted

> in statistically significant survival increase in lung cancer patients.

>

> MAO Inhibitor

>

> Hydrazine

> Sulfate is an MAO Inhibitor, meaning it inhibits an enzyme that breaks

> down monoamines (serotonin, norepinephrine, and dopamine), the brain

> chemicals that make us happy. MAO inhibitors have been used as antidepressants

>

> Warning:

> Hydrazine Sulfate is an irreversible and potent MAO (monoamine oxidase)

> inhibitor, a class of compounds that can have potentially deadly

> interactions with other drugs. For over three decades it has been known

> that central nervous system depressants such as barbiturates,

> tranquilizers and alcohol are incompatible with MAO inhibitors and use

> of the two together could result in extremely dangerous effects.

>

> Warning: MAOs

> have another job in the body, however: they metabolize tyramine, an

> amino acid. When taking an MAO inhibitor, tyramine is not broken down,

> and eating foods with tyramine can raise your blood pressure and heart

> beat dramatically and cause severe headaches. This is a very dangerous

> condition, especially for someone already battling cancer. Most foods

> containing tyramine are not on a recommended cancer diet plan, and

> should be avoided even if not using Hydrazine Sulfate.

>

> Foods

> to avoid that contain tyramine are mainly aged, fermented, or pickled,

> such as most cheeses, lunch meats, hot dogs, yogurt, wines and beers.

> Here is a list of some foods that contain tyramine:

>

> Dry and fermented sausage (bologna, salami, pepperoni, corned beef, and

> liver), pickled herring and salted dried fish, broad beans and pods

> (lima, fava beans, lentils, snow peas, and soy beans), meat extracts,

> yeast extracts/brewer's yeast, beer and ale, red wine (chianti,

> burgundy, sherry, vermouth), sauerkraut, some fruits (bananas,

> avacados, canned figs, raisins, red plums, raspberries, pinapples),

> cultured dairy products (buttermilk, yogurt, and sour cream),

> chocolate, caffeine (coffee, tea, and cola drinks), white wine, port

> wines, distilled spirits, soy sauce, miso, peanuts, almonds, beef or

> chicken liver, herring, meat tenderizer, MSG (Accent), pickles, and

> pumpkin seeds. In general, any high protein food that has undergone

> aging should be avoided. Also, any over-the-counter cold or allergy

> remedy should also be avoided.

>

> And, as always, check with your doctor or nutritionist if you have

a question.

>

> Sources:

>

> â€ " The Truth About Hydrazine Sulfate by Dr. Joseph Gold, M.D.

>

> â€ " Options: The Alternative Cancer Therapy Book by Richard Walters

>

> â€ " http://www.seniors-site.com/altmed/

>

April 22, 2009

Hi Matthew,

Glad you are better and that the phlegm is clearing up. However, as long as you see ay hint of green, do not let your guard down. There is something there. Don't take a deep breath until it is clear.

Thank you for explaining MMS. Yes, I am familiar with it and I have heard pros and cons. However, the "cons" have impressed me enough that I have not tried it. And colloidal silver has always done the trick for me. Whatever you do though, make sure you get well. And Matthew, I admire the conviction and faith with which you are dealing with your cancer. I do believe that we will be hearing very optimistic news soon and one day you will be helping other people overcome not only this disease but their fears and anxieties.

My best to you Matthew, and make sure you get well. This concern is due to years of taking care of my mother. I learned quite a lot. Most of all caution.

oleander soup , "matthewalanmoore" <poppers5 wrote:>> Hey !,> > The phlegm is mostly clear, with a little of the thick green stuff from time to time. I'm not sure if you know what MMS is but it is called Miracle Mineral Supplement. When mixed with Citric Acid it becomes Chlorine Dioxide. It kills anything that has a lower ph than your body, including diseased cells, parasites, fungus, bacteria, molds, virus' etc. by stripping 5 electrons violently from the offending organism. Amazingly it won't kill the flora in your intestines unless you take massive amounts of it. Of course there is a down side to it. It smells and taste exactly like chlorine. The sicker you are the less you can tolerate at once. And after taking it for a period of time, you can become so sensitive to it that even the mere mention of it is nauseating. > > The up side is that it destroys malaria in a few hours, and even aids and Hep C when given by IV. You can find out lot by googling MMS. It is said to be able to conquer cancer, if taken long enough in high enough doses. And there is the proverbial rub. That dosage of around 15 to 20 drops two to three times a day would be really tough for someone with advanced cancer. It would cause nausea and vomiting since someone with advanced cancer is generally pretty sick and it would be causing an extreme herxheimers reaction. > I did a short term protocol with it where after using it for 2 weeks at a moderate dose, you take 10 drops every hour for 12 hours, some orally and some with dmso trans-dermally. The DMSO messed up my skin for days afterwards, but the cancer was not abated. > It is great for dealing with pneumonia, colds, flu, malaria etc. And it may be something to add as part of an ongoing protocol, keeping infections at bay etc and who knows maybe eventually destroying the microbes inside the cancer cells that are causing the cell to be diseased. > > I would say that MMS is better than any antibiotic as no resistance can be built to MMS. It was stated in the online book about it that it would be like building a resistance to a hand-grenade. (ka-BOOM!)> > Thank you for your concern , you're a blessing!> > Matthew Moore>

April 23, 2009

Hi Matthew,I don't know the full answers to your questions, but this is what I have gleaned on my journey. A MAOI is a drug that in the past has been used to treat depression not responding to tricyclic antidepressants, but in cancer it is designed to not allow the cachexia cycle to occur. If you are cachexic, this is very dangerous, as cancer cells will literally eat you up. However there is a huge difference between wasting away to nothing due to cancer and losing weight because of the dietary lifestyle changes you have made since being diagnosed with cancer. Most of the foods on the list that cause irreversible damage and blinding headaches when using Hydrazine should not be eaten on a cancer diet anyway. So, avoid the items on the list and therefore avoid the side-effects.A good

place to get more info is: http://www.cancertutor.com/Cancer/Hydrazine.htmlWebster Kehr address pretty much all of your questions and he goes into detail re deciding if you are cachexic or not.I am not recommending you do this, but merely giving you info. I know it was the last thing I considered doing when I lost 35lb in a very short space of time. I am not big to begin with! However I looked at the info as a challenge and changed my diet, started to exercise and averted more weight loss. I also had to increase the protein in my diet. However I am a VERY atypical cancer specimen as I actually have to eat animal protein to increase the pH in my system. Apparently people with soft-tissue tumors are different. I do get masses of raw plant veges, too though and I keep juicing, although I add olive oil, coconut oil and an organic raw egg to make it suitable for my fast oxidising/parasympathetic metabolic

type. I also did Cesium Chloride, as it blocks the cachexia/lactic acid cycle in the cancer cell. I find Sutherlandia OPC to be a great follow-up. I probably would have started with Tony's protocol had I know about it late last year. However I am alive and I feel healthy post Liposarcoma resection so at no stage have I sat back and complained that I should have done less to get the same result.OK, lots of info you may not need, but I hope it helps you on your journey.Blessings, Eva. BTW, I totally relate to your: No Fear email. I tackled my cancer that way last year, too. And I still do, however I am at peace now. Thanks for sharing...--- On Wed, 4/22/09, matthewalanmoore <poppers5 wrote:matthewalanmoore <poppers5Subject:

Re: Inositol/IP6 and other supplements - Matthew & the rest of the groupoleander soup Date: Wednesday, April 22, 2009, 5:59 PM

Hey Eva,

Well that sound like a solution with a cost. There are a couple of questions that I have concerning hydrazine sulphate. One is the statement that it is an irreversible and potent MAO (monoamine oxidase).. What does that mean???

Another concern is the list of foods that can result in high blood pressure and blinding headache. Is there anything you could take to counteract that reaction?

And last but not least is for how long would you have to take it, until the cancer was gone?

Thanks,

Matthew Moore

oleander soup, eklein.otis@ ... wrote:

>

> Hi Matthew,

>

> Hydrazine sulphate is very good for muscle wasting and cachexia.Ã‚ I looked into it around October last year when I kept losing weight after surgery for my Liposarcoma.Ã‚ Fortunately I happened on the right diet for me and I am over 120lb again.Ã‚

>

> Here is an excerpt from Essense-of-Life re Hydrazine.Ã‚ CancerTutor also recommends Larry as the vendor for this product, however I am sure there are other places it can be sourced from.

>

> Eva.

>

> WARNING! Hydrazine Sulfate is an MAOI or Monoamine Oxidase Inhibitor.

>

> Cancer's

> main devastating effect on the body is cachexia, the wasting away of

> the body characterized by weight loss and eventual debilitation.

> Hydrazine sulfate was first proposed as an anticachexia agent based on

> its inhibition of the gluconeogenic enzyme, phosphoenolpyruvate

> carboxykinase. *

>

> More About Hydrazine Sulfate

>

> Joseph Gold, M.D., director of the Syracuse Cancer Research Institute,

> is the developer of hydrazine sulfate as an anticachexia drug.

>

> Hydrazine

> sulfate was first proposed as an anticachexia agent based on its

> inhibition of the gluconeogenic enzyme, phosphoenolpyruvate

> carboxykinase.

>

> Cancer's

> main devastating effect on the body is cachexia, the wasting away of

> the body characterized by weight loss and eventual debilitation.

>

> Cancer

> cells depend on sugar to feed and grow. The sugar consumed by the

> cancer cells is generated mainly from the liver, which converts lactic

> acid into glucose. Normal cells derive glucose from the food we eat,

> not from lactic acid.

>

> When

> cancer cells use sugar (glucose) as fuel, they only partially

> metabolize it. Lactic acid - the waste product of this incomplete

> combustion - spills into the blood and is taken up by the liver. The

> liver then recycles the lactic acid back into glucose, and the sugar is

> consumed in ever-increasing amounts by voracious cancer cells in a

> vicious cycle.

>

> Prospectively

> randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled studies have indicated

> that Hydrazine Sulfate: (a) normalized abnormal glucose metabolism, (b)

> resulted in increased effectiveness of ingested calories, © caused

> weight gain or weight stabilization, (d) reversed protein breakdown and

> muscle wasting, (e) maintained serum albumin levels, and (f) resulted

> in statistically significant survival increase in lung cancer patients.

>

> MAO Inhibitor

>

> Hydrazine

> Sulfate is an MAO Inhibitor, meaning it inhibits an enzyme that breaks

> down monoamines (serotonin, norepinephrine, and dopamine), the brain

> chemicals that make us happy. MAO inhibitors have been used as antidepressants

>

> Warning:

> Hydrazine Sulfate is an irreversible and potent MAO (monoamine oxidase)

> inhibitor, a class of compounds that can have potentially deadly

> interactions with other drugs. For over three decades it has been known

> that central nervous system depressants such as barbiturates,

> tranquilizers and alcohol are incompatible with MAO inhibitors and use

> of the two together could result in extremely dangerous effects.

>

> Warning: MAOs

> have another job in the body, however: they metabolize tyramine, an

> amino acid. When taking an MAO inhibitor, tyramine is not broken down,

> and eating foods with tyramine can raise your blood pressure and heart

> beat dramatically and cause severe headaches. This is a very dangerous

> condition, especially for someone already battling cancer. Most foods

> containing tyramine are not on a recommended cancer diet plan, and

> should be avoided even if not using Hydrazine Sulfate.

>

> Foods

> to avoid that contain tyramine are mainly aged, fermented, or pickled,

> such as most cheeses, lunch meats, hot dogs, yogurt, wines and beers.

> Here is a list of some foods that contain tyramine:

>

> Dry and fermented sausage (bologna, salami, pepperoni, corned beef, and

> liver), pickled herring and salted dried fish, broad beans and pods

> (lima, fava beans, lentils, snow peas, and soy beans), meat extracts,

> yeast extracts/brewer' s yeast, beer and ale, red wine (chianti,