wild blueberry extract

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Does this have a more general application for all solid tumors, or is it mostly useful for tumors of blood vessels?

 

Interesting that blueberries are part of the flaxoil2 protocol that I've been

doing for years. I read a couple of months ago that eating the berries

at the same time as protein destroys the anthocyanins in the body. Been

mixing them with the cottage cheese/flax oil for years. I changed, but

am using far less than 4000mg.  Rhoda

 

 

 

This Tasty Cancer Treatment Stopped 90% of the Cancers Tested

 

 

Most people think of food only as a way to supply nutrition to our cells.

 

But there is much more to food than that. Food also contains substances that perform drug-like actions. These substances are phyto-chemicals (food chemicals).

 

Phytochemicals are vitally important for your health. They balance hormones, control blood vessel growth, balance sugar levels, detox­ify the body, control bacteria, balance the immune system, kill cancer, and much more. So if you think all you have to do to be healthy is too take some supplements, think again. There is no possible way that any supplement can take the place of eating fresh, whole foods.

 

But now, researchers are finding out just how effective these natural chemicals are at treating cancer. In fact, a recent study high­lights how a particular food that's rich in phyto-chemicals can kill and control cancer.

 

Researchers at the Department of Pharmacy Sciences, Creighton University Medical Center, in Omaha already knew a lot about the non-nutritional aspect of berries. They knew that berries not only supply energy, vitamins, and minerals, but they are rich in anthocyanins, a special class of phytochemicals.

 

So these researchers studied the effects of several berry extracts. These included wild blueberry, bilberry, raspberry seeds, and straw­berry. They examined these extracts for antioxidant strength, anti-cancer activity, cellular uptake, and anti-angiogenesis. You may have read about angiogenesis before in my reports on cancer. Angiogenesis refers to the body's ability to grow new blood vessels.

 

Angiogenesis is very important when an area of the body becomes damaged, and needs

 

repair. It is through the process of angiogenesis that your body creates new blood vessels to replace the damaged ones. So angiogenesis is critical for wound repair, fractures, burns, and contusions.

 

The only problem with angiogenesis is that just like healthy cells, cancer cells can also use it to create new blood vessels. This is critical for cancers. Cancer cells are abnormal cells, and because of their abnormally rapid growth rate, they can quickly outgrow their blood supply.

 

When that happens, they die. So in order to provide an adequate blood supply for their growth, cancers need angiogenesis. And one of the most effective ways to treat cancers is to use anti-angiogenic substances.

 

Cancer cells stimulate angiogenesis by cre­ating and releasing something called vascular endothelial growth factor, or VEGF for short.

 

Without the production of VEGF, cancer cells would not be able to get an adequate blood supply, and would die. So the researchers in this study tested the different berry extracts to see how well they were able to reduce the release of VEGF from cancer cells.

 

Then they compared the results to several other popular phytochemicals, including grape seed extract, the bioflavonoid rutin, catechin (found in tea), vitamin E, and fermlic acid (found in various foods, and known to have anti-cancer properties).

Here's what they found

 

The most powerful VEGF inhibitor was the blueberry extract. It inhibited VEGF a full 75%. The next most powerful was raspberry seed extract, which came in at 70%. Then strawberries at 63%, bilberries at 60%, rutin at 45%, catechin at 25%, and ferrulic acid at 17%. Vitamin E and grape seed extract had no effect at all.

 

The researchers then developed a combina­tion of these berry extracts, which they called OptiBerry. They tested this combination on the growth of a special kind of tumor called a hemangioma. Hemangiomas are benign tumors that are made up of blood vessels. They appear on infants at birth. Then during the first year of life can become quite large. Because they are composed of developing blood vessels, they are a particularly good tumor to test the anti-angio-genic effect of the berry extracts. If it works on this cancer, it can work on others.

 

The researchers injected endothelial cells, the kind of cells that form hemangiomas, into a group of mice. In half of the mice, they treated the endothelial cells with the OptiBerry combi­nation extract. They found that 100% of the mice that they injected with the untreated cells developed hemangiomas. But only 90% of the mice with the pretreated cells developed the cancer. Furthermore, the hemangiomas that did develop in those mice were less than half as large as the ones in the untreated group. The berry extract had decreased the tumor growth rate by more than 50%.

There's much more...

 

In another study, this one conducted at Ohio State University, in Columbus, Ohio, researchers went a little further. After they injected a group of mice with the endothelioma cells, they fed half of them varying doses of blue-berry extract. They found that the larger the dose they gave, the more it inhibited the tumors.

 

In this study, the mice who took the blue-berry extract lived twice as long, and had

tumors that were 60% smaller.

 

In a news release, Gayle Gordillo, MD, the principal investigator of the Ohio State team, said, " This work provides the first evidence demon­strating that blueberry extract can limit tumor formation by inhibiting the formation of blood vessels and inhibiting certain signaling pathways. "

 

This is good news for any patient with can­cer. I treat a lot of patients with cancers of vari­ous types, and I can tell you that one of the most effective ways to stop any kind of cancer is by inhibiting VEGF. I have used a very expen­sive drug called bevacizumab to do this. But you can bet that from now on I will be using blue-berry extract as well.

 

The only problem at this point is that we don't know what dose will be needed, and if it will be safe in infants. So until further studies address this issue, I would recommend that adults with cancer take 2000 mg of wild blueber­ry extract twice a day. Infants with hemangioma should take only one-quarter that amount.

 

You can purchase blueberry extract at www.vitacost.com and at various other health food stores.

 

REF: Bagchi, D., C.K. Sen, M. Bagchi, and M. Atalay. " Anti-angiogenic, antioxidant, and anti-carcinogenic properties of a novel anthocyanin-rich berry extract formula. " Biochemistry (Mosc). 2004 January;69(l):75-80.

 

Gordillo, G., H. Fang, S. Khanna, J. Harper, G. Phillips, and C.K. Sen. " Oral administration of blueberry inhibits angiogenic tumor growth and enhances survival of mice with endothelial cell neo­plasm. " Antioxid Redox Signal, 2009 January;ll(l):47-58.

 

Hendrick, Bill. " Blueberries May Shrink Tumors in Babies. Blood Vessel Tumors Respond to Blueberry Extract, Study Shows. " WebMD Health News.

Reviewed by Louise Chang, MD. January 21, 2009.

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Nice read thanksRhoda Mead Fri, 10 Apr 2009 08:30:46 -0700<oleander soup > wild blueberry extract Does this have a more general application for all solid tumors, or is it mostly useful for tumors of blood vessels? Interesting that blueberries are part of the flaxoil2 protocol that I've been doing for years. I read a couple of months ago that eating the berries at the same time as protein destroys the anthocyanins in the body. Been mixing them with the cottage cheese/flax oil for years. I changed, but am using far less than 4000mg.  Rhoda This Tasty Cancer Treatment Stopped 90% of the Cancers Tested  Most people think of food only as a way to supply nutrition to our cells. But there is much more to food than that. Food also contains substances that perform drug-like actions. These substances are phyto-chemicals (food chemicals). Phytochemicals are vitally important for your health. They balance hormones, control blood vessel growth, balance sugar levels, detox­ify the body, control bacteria, balance the immune system, kill cancer, and much more. So if you think all you have to do to be healthy is too take some supplements, think again. There is no possible way that any supplement can take the place of eating fresh, whole foods. But now, researchers are finding out just how effective these natural chemicals are at treating cancer. In fact, a recent study high­lights how a particular food that's rich in phyto-chemicals can kill and control cancer. Researchers at the Department of Pharmacy Sciences, Creighton University Medical Center, in Omaha already knew a lot about the non-nutritional aspect of berries. They knew that berries not only supply energy, vitamins, and minerals, but they are rich in anthocyanins, a special class of phytochemicals. So these researchers studied the effects of several berry extracts. These included wild blueberry, bilberry, raspberry seeds, and straw­berry. They examined these extracts for antioxidant strength, anti-cancer activity, cellular uptake, and anti-angiogenesis. You may have read about angiogenesis before in my reports on cancer. Angiogenesis refers to the body's ability to grow new blood vessels. Angiogenesis is very important when an area of the body becomes damaged, and needs repair. It is through the process of angiogenesis that your body creates new blood vessels to replace the damaged ones. So angiogenesis is critical for wound repair, fractures, burns, and contusions. The only problem with angiogenesis is that just like healthy cells, cancer cells can also use it to create new blood vessels. This is critical for cancers. Cancer cells are abnormal cells, and because of their abnormally rapid growth rate, they can quickly outgrow their blood supply. When that happens, they die. So in order to provide an adequate blood supply for their growth, cancers need angiogenesis. And one of the most effective ways to treat cancers is to use anti-angiogenic substances. Cancer cells stimulate angiogenesis by cre­ating and releasing something called vascular endothelial growth factor, or VEGF for short. Without the production of VEGF, cancer cells would not be able to get an adequate blood supply, and would die. So the researchers in this study tested the different berry extracts to see how well they were able to reduce the release of VEGF from cancer cells. Then they compared the results to several other popular phytochemicals, including grape seed extract, the bioflavonoid rutin, catechin (found in tea), vitamin E, and fermlic acid (found in various foods, and known to have anti-cancer properties).Here's what they found The most powerful VEGF inhibitor was the blueberry extract. It inhibited VEGF a full 75%. The next most powerful was raspberry seed extract, which came in at 70%. Then strawberries at 63%, bilberries at 60%, rutin at 45%, catechin at 25%, and ferrulic acid at 17%. Vitamin E and grape seed extract had no effect at all. The researchers then developed a combina­tion of these berry extracts, which they called OptiBerry. They tested this combination on the growth of a special kind of tumor called a hemangioma. Hemangiomas are benign tumors that are made up of blood vessels. They appear on infants at birth. Then during the first year of life can become quite large. Because they are composed of developing blood vessels, they are a particularly good tumor to test the anti-angio-genic effect of the berry extracts. If it works on this cancer, it can work on others. The researchers injected endothelial cells, the kind of cells that form hemangiomas, into a group of mice. In half of the mice, they treated the endothelial cells with the OptiBerry combi­nation extract. They found that 100% of the mice that they injected with the untreated cells developed hemangiomas. But only 90% of the mice with the pretreated cells developed the cancer. Furthermore, the hemangiomas that did develop in those mice were less than half as large as the ones in the untreated group. The berry extract had decreased the tumor growth rate by more than 50%.There's much more... In another study, this one conducted at Ohio State University, in Columbus, Ohio, researchers went a little further. After they injected a group of mice with the endothelioma cells, they fed half of them varying doses of blue-berry extract. They found that the larger the dose they gave, the more it inhibited the tumors. In this study, the mice who took the blue-berry extract lived twice as long, and hadtumors that were 60% smaller. In a news release, Gayle Gordillo, MD, the principal investigator of the Ohio State team, said, " This work provides the first evidence demon­strating that blueberry extract can limit tumor formation by inhibiting the formation of blood vessels and inhibiting certain signaling pathways. " This is good news for any patient with can­cer. I treat a lot of patients with cancers of vari­ous types, and I can tell you that one of the most effective ways to stop any kind of cancer is by inhibiting VEGF. I have used a very expen­sive drug called bevacizumab to do this. But you can bet that from now on I will be using blue-berry extract as well. The only problem at this point is that we don't know what dose will be needed, and if it will be safe in infants. So until further studies address this issue, I would recommend that adults with cancer take 2000 mg of wild blueber­ry extract twice a day. Infants with hemangioma should take only one-quarter that amount. You can purchase blueberry extract at www.vitacost.com and at various other health food stores. REF: Bagchi, D., C.K. Sen, M. Bagchi, and M. Atalay. " Anti-angiogenic, antioxidant, and anti-carcinogenic properties of a novel anthocyanin-rich berry extract formula. " Biochemistry (Mosc). 2004 January;69(l):75-80. Gordillo, G., H. Fang, S. Khanna, J. Harper, G. Phillips, and C.K. Sen. " Oral administration of blueberry inhibits angiogenic tumor growth and enhances survival of mice with endothelial cell neo­plasm. " Antioxid Redox Signal, 2009 January;ll(l):47-58. Hendrick, Bill. " Blueberries May Shrink Tumors in Babies. Blood Vessel Tumors Respond to Blueberry Extract, Study Shows. " WebMD Health News.Reviewed by Louise Chang, MD. January 21, 2009.

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Rhoda:

I don't know about the buleberry but I tried the black raspberry and in about three seconds the area in the center of my neck tumor bagan to hurt a lot. I don't know what that ment but I sure didn't like the pain and I stopped using it. It reads great but where is the doctor when you want an opinion.

 

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Most health problems are related to fungus in our bodies and the chemically treated rotting garbage we are offered at the Super Markets. dukestone

--- On Fri, 4/10/09, Rhoda Mead <hummingbird541 wrote:

Rhoda Mead <hummingbird541 wild blueberry extractoleander soup Date: Friday, April 10, 2009, 10:30 AM

 

In a news release, Gayle Gordillo, MD, the principal investigator of the Un

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Just an observation, but pain at the tumor site is often a sign that the tumor is being attacked. It certainly happens that way at times with oleander.

 

Tony--- On Sun, 4/12/09, dukesdeals <dukesdeals wrote:

dukesdeals <dukesdealsRe: wild blueberry extractoleander soup Date: Sunday, April 12, 2009, 2:08 PM

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Tony:

Attach by what. I had never heard that befor. Do you have any information or a like. It only seems to hurt with bad carbs but I will pay more attention asap.

 

Thanks

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Duke

Most health problems are related to fungus in our bodies and the chemically treated rotting garbage we are offered at the Super Markets. dukestone

--- On Wed, 4/15/09, Tony Isaacs wrote:

Tony Isaacs Re: wild blueberry extractoleander soup Date: Wednesday, April 15, 2009, 3:29 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Just an observation, but pain at the tumor site is often a sign that the tumor is being attacked. It certainly happens that way at times with oleander.

 

Tony--- On Sun, 4/12/09, dukesdeals <dukesdeals > wrote:

dukesdeals <dukesdeals >Re: wild blueberry extractoleander soupSunday, April 12, 2009, 2:08 PM

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Cancerous growths are usually sensitive to pain the same way the rest of the body is, and much the same way that warts and other growths are. Dying cancer cells also release toxins which might be inflammatory and thus painful to the surrounding area. So, when the cancer cells in tumors are dying prematurely in large numbers due to being attacked by the body's natural immune defense and/or other anti-cancer agenst, there could be pain involved.

For whatever reasons, most often cancer pain from dying cancer cells seems to be greatest in bone locations - especially when it comes to oleander. Usually though, pain at the cancer/tumor sites gradually lessens and ultimately is less than before beginning treatment.

I am not suggesting that such is the case with you and berry juice, as there also could be other reasons for the pain in an area that may already be sensitive and raw - just saying it is something to consider.

In answer to your other post, no I have no specific sources for berry or other juice at this time. If at all possible, I would opt for organic non-pasteurized.

All the best,

oleander soup , Duke Stone <dukesdeals wrote:>> Tony:> Attach by what. I had never heard that befor. Do you have any information or a like. It only seems to hurt with bad carbs but I will pay more attention asap.> > Thanks> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Duke> Most health problems are related to fungus in our bodies and the chemically treated rotting garbage we are offered at the Super Markets. dukestone > > --- On Wed, 4/15/09, Tony Isaacs wrote:> > > Tony Isaacs Re: wild blueberry extract> oleander soup > Wednesday, April 15, 2009, 3:29 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just an observation, but pain at the tumor site is often a sign that the tumor is being attacked. It certainly happens that way at times with oleander.> > Tony> > --- On Sun, 4/12/09, dukesdeals dukesdeals > wrote:> > > dukesdeals dukesdeals >> Re: wild blueberry extract> oleander soup> Sunday, April 12, 2009, 2:08 PM>

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Interesting:

 

http://www.anticancerways.com/post/4-x-1-16-Combine-anticancer-foods-and-multiply-their-power

 

"At Cornell University (Ithaca, NY), an elegant piece of research by scientist Rui Hai Liu has studied the antioxidant effect of four anticancer foods – both when eaten separately, and when consumed together.

The results of the study speak volumes. A 50 g (1.75 oz) combination of apples, blueberries, grapes and oranges had an antioxidant power equal to 400 g (14 oz) of blueberries eaten alone!"

- Steve

 

 

oleander soup oleander soup On Behalf Of TonyThursday, April 16, 2009 10:03 AMoleander soup Subject: Re: wild blueberry extract

Cancerous growths are usually sensitive to pain the same way the rest of the body is, and much the same way that warts and other growths are. Dying cancer cells also release toxins which might be inflammatory and thus painful to the surrounding area. So, when the cancer cells in tumors are dying prematurely in large numbers due to being attacked by the body's natural immune defense and/or other anti-cancer agenst, there could be pain involved.

For whatever reasons, most often cancer pain from dying cancer cells seems to be greatest in bone locations - especially when it comes to oleander. Usually though, pain at the cancer/tumor sites gradually lessens and ultimately is less than before beginning treatment.

I am not suggesting that such is the case with you and berry juice, as there also could be other reasons for the pain in an area that may already be sensitive and raw - just saying it is something to consider.

In answer to your other post, no I have no specific sources for berry or other juice at this time. If at all possible, I would opt for organic non-pasteurized.

All the best,

Tony

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Steve

Not to shoot the messenger. But.

 

One more researcher drawing a paycheck at an allophic based university . The real news should be how do we view the result. Where are the people that got relief - had the tumor disappear -- saw their pain go away or a link to the actual results with some sort of trackable information. Maybe even some sort of trackable references. If any of this stuff actually worked there would be line forming and there aren't any lines anywhere even at Hoxly's clinic which never stops advertising for more more people desperate for help..... But first you have to pay and they don't give any refunds. Ever.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Duke

Most health problems are related to fungus in our bodies and the chemically treated rotting garbage we are offered at the Super Markets. dukestone

--- On Thu, 4/16/09, Norton, Steve <stephen.norton wrote:

Norton, Steve <stephen.nortonRE: Re: wild blueberry extractoleander soup Date: Thursday, April 16, 2009, 1:36 PM

 

 

 

Interesting:

 

http://www.anticanc erways.com/ post/4-x- 1-16-Combine- anticancer- foods-and- multiply- their-power

 

"At Cornell University (Ithaca, NY), an elegant piece of research by scientist Rui Hai Liu has studied the antioxidant effect of four anticancer foods – both when eaten separately, and when consumed together.

The results of the study speak volumes. A 50 g (1.75 oz) combination of apples, blueberries, grapes and oranges had an antioxidant power equal to 400 g (14 oz) of blueberries eaten alone!"

- Steve

 

 

oleander soup [oleandersou p ] On Behalf Of TonyThursday, April 16, 2009 10:03 AMoleander soup Re: wild blueberry extract

Cancerous growths are usually sensitive to pain the same way the rest of the body is, and much the same way that warts and other growths are. Dying cancer cells also release toxins which might be inflammatory and thus painful to the surrounding area. So, when the cancer cells in tumors are dying prematurely in large numbers due to being attacked by the body's natural immune defense and/or other anti-cancer agenst, there could be pain involved.

For whatever reasons, most often cancer pain from dying cancer cells seems to be greatest in bone locations - especially when it comes to oleander. Usually though, pain at the cancer/tumor sites gradually lessens and ultimately is less than before beginning treatment.

I am not suggesting that such is the case with you and berry juice, as there also could be other reasons for the pain in an area that may already be sensitive and raw - just saying it is something to consider.

In answer to your other post, no I have no specific sources for berry or other juice at this time. If at all possible, I would opt for organic non-pasteurized.

All the best,

Tony

[Guest guest]

Actually, I have only found data that blueberries act as a cancer preventative and not as a cure. (e.g. https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/imagemal/www/Publications/journals/smithandothers00.pdf)

But if one is going to use blueberries, you might get more benefit by mixing with other fruits rather than just taking large amounts of blueberries.

- Steve

 

 

oleander soup oleander soup On Behalf Of Duke StoneThursday, April 16, 2009 3:32 PMoleander soup Subject: RE: Re: wild blueberry extract

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Steve

Not to shoot the messenger. But.

 

One more researcher drawing a paycheck at an allophic based university . The real news should be how do we view the result. Where are the people that got relief - had the tumor disappear -- saw their pain go away or a link to the actual results with some sort of trackable information. Maybe even some sort of trackable references. If any of this stuff actually worked there would be line forming and there aren't any lines anywhere even at Hoxly's clinic which never stops advertising for more more people desperate for help..... But first you have to pay and they don't give any refunds. Ever.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Duke

Most health problems are related to fungus in our bodies and the chemically treated rotting garbage we are offered at the Super Markets. dukestone (AT) hotmail (DOT) com

--- On Thu, 4/16/09, Norton, Steve <stephen.norton (AT) ngc (DOT) com> wrote:

Norton, Steve <stephen.norton (AT) ngc (DOT) com>RE: Re: wild blueberry extractoleander soup Date: Thursday, April 16, 2009, 1:36 PM

 

 

 

Interesting:

 

http://www.anticanc erways.com/ post/4-x- 1-16-Combine- anticancer- foods-and- multiply- their-power

 

"At Cornell University (Ithaca, NY), an elegant piece of research by scientist Rui Hai Liu has studied the antioxidant effect of four anticancer foods – both when eaten separately, and when consumed together.

The results of the study speak volumes. A 50 g (1.75 oz) combination of apples, blueberries, grapes and oranges had an antioxidant power equal to 400 g (14 oz) of blueberries eaten alone!"

- Steve

 

 

oleander soup [oleandersou p ] On Behalf Of TonyThursday, April 16, 2009 10:03 AMoleander soup Re: wild blueberry extract

Cancerous growths are usually sensitive to pain the same way the rest of the body is, and much the same way that warts and other growths are. Dying cancer cells also release toxins which might be inflammatory and thus painful to the surrounding area. So, when the cancer cells in tumors are dying prematurely in large numbers due to being attacked by the body's natural immune defense and/or other anti-cancer agenst, there could be pain involved.

For whatever reasons, most often cancer pain from dying cancer cells seems to be greatest in bone locations - especially when it comes to oleander. Usually though, pain at the cancer/tumor sites gradually lessens and ultimately is less than before beginning treatment.

I am not suggesting that such is the case with you and berry juice, as there also could be other reasons for the pain in an area that may already be sensitive and raw - just saying it is something to consider.

In answer to your other post, no I have no specific sources for berry or other juice at this time. If at all possible, I would opt for organic non-pasteurized.

All the best,

Tony

[Guest guest]

 

Actually, I have only found data that blueberries act as a cancer preventative and not as a cure. (e.g. https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/imagemal/www/Publications/journals/smithandothers00.pdf)

But if one is going to use blueberries, you might get more benefit by mixing with other fruits rather than just taking large amounts of blueberries.

- Steve

 

 

oleander soup oleander soup On Behalf Of Duke StoneThursday, April 16, 2009 3:32 PMoleander soup Subject: RE: Re: wild blueberry extract

Steve

Not to shoot the messenger. But.

 

One more researcher drawing a paycheck at an allophic based university . The real news should be how do we view the result. Where are the people that got relief - had the tumor disappear -- saw their pain go away or a link to the actual results with some sort of trackable information. Maybe even some sort of trackable references. If any of this stuff actually worked there would be line forming and there aren't any lines anywhere even at Hoxly's clinic which never stops advertising for more more people desperate for help..... But first you have to pay and they don't give any refunds. Ever.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Duke

Most health problems are related to fungus in our bodies and the chemically treated rotting garbage we are offered at the Super Markets. dukestone (AT) hotmail (DOT) com

 

[Guest guest]

Actually, studies have indicated that blueberries suppress the growth of several types of cancer cells.

For example:

Wedge DE, Meepagala KM, Magee JB, et al. Anticarcinogenic Activity of Strawberry, Blueberry, and Raspberry Extracts to Breast and Cervical Cancer Cells. J Med Food. 2001;4(1):49-51.

Yi W, Fischer J, Krewer G, Akoh CC. Phenolic compounds from blueberries can inhibit colon cancer cell proliferation and induce apoptosis. J Agric Food Chem. 2005 Sep 7;53(18):7320-9.

oleander soup , "Norton, Steve" <stephen.norton wrote:>> > Actually, I have only found data that blueberries act as a cancer> preventative and not as a cure. (e.g.> https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/imagemal/www/Publications/journals/smithandoth> ers00.pdf) > But if one is going to use blueberries, you might get more benefit by> mixing with other fruits rather than just taking large amounts of> blueberries.> - Steve> > ________________________________> > oleander soup oleander soup> On Behalf Of Duke Stone> Thursday, April 16, 2009 3:32 PM> oleander soup > RE: Re: wild blueberry extract> > > > <http://geo./serv?s=97359714/grpId=14348479/grpspId=1705060814/> msgId=14118/stime=1239921142/nc1=1/nc2=2/nc3=3> > Steve> Not to shoot the messenger. But.> > One more researcher drawing a paycheck at an allophic based university .> The real news should be how do we view the result. Where are the people> that got relief - had the tumor disappear -- saw their pain go away or a> link to the actual results with some sort of trackable information.> Maybe even some sort of trackable references. If any of this stuff> actually worked there would be line forming and there aren't any lines> anywhere even at Hoxly's clinic which never stops advertising for more> more people desperate for help..... But first you have to pay and they> don't give any refunds. Ever. > > > Duke> Most health problems are related to fungus in our bodies and the> chemically treated rotting garbage we are offered at the Super Markets.> dukestone <dukestone

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Steve

This is what I have been using for about 9 months. It sure makes whatever I put it in taste great.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Duke

Most health problems are related to fungus in our bodies and the chemically treated rotting garbage we are offered at the Super Markets. dukestone

--- On Thu, 4/16/09, Norton, Steve <stephen.norton wrote:

Norton, Steve <stephen.nortonRE: Re: wild blueberry extractoleander soup Date: Thursday, April 16, 2009, 5:40 PM

 

 

 

Actually, I have only found data that blueberries act as a cancer preventative and not as a cure. (e.g. https://netfiles. uiuc.edu/ imagemal/ www/Publications /journals/ smithandothers00 .pdf)

But if one is going to use blueberries, you might get more benefit by mixing with other fruits rather than just taking large amounts of blueberries.

- Steve

 

 

oleander soup [oleandersou p ] On Behalf Of Duke StoneThursday, April 16, 2009 3:32 PMoleander soupRE: Re: wild blueberry extract

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Steve

Not to shoot the messenger. But.

 

One more researcher drawing a paycheck at an allophic based university . The real news should be how do we view the result. Where are the people that got relief - had the tumor disappear -- saw their pain go away or a link to the actual results with some sort of trackable information. Maybe even some sort of trackable references. If any of this stuff actually worked there would be line forming and there aren't any lines anywhere even at Hoxly's clinic which never stops advertising for more more people desperate for help..... But first you have to pay and they don't give any refunds. Ever.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Duke

Most health problems are related to fungus in our bodies and the chemically treated rotting garbage we are offered at the Super Markets. dukestone (AT) hotmail (DOT) com

--- On Thu, 4/16/09, Norton, Steve <stephen.norton@ ngc.com> wrote:

Norton, Steve <stephen.norton@ ngc.com>RE: Re: wild blueberry extractoleander soupThursday, April 16, 2009, 1:36 PM

 

 

 

Interesting:

 

http://www.anticanc erways.com/ post/4-x- 1-16-Combine- anticancer- foods-and- multiply- their-power

 

"At Cornell University (Ithaca, NY), an elegant piece of research by scientist Rui Hai Liu has studied the antioxidant effect of four anticancer foods – both when eaten separately, and when consumed together.

The results of the study speak volumes. A 50 g (1.75 oz) combination of apples, blueberries, grapes and oranges had an antioxidant power equal to 400 g (14 oz) of blueberries eaten alone!"

- Steve

 

 

oleander soup [oleandersou p ] On Behalf Of TonyThursday, April 16, 2009 10:03 AMoleander soup Re: wild blueberry extract

Cancerous growths are usually sensitive to pain the same way the rest of the body is, and much the same way that warts and other growths are. Dying cancer cells also release toxins which might be inflammatory and thus painful to the surrounding area. So, when the cancer cells in tumors are dying prematurely in large numbers due to being attacked by the body's natural immune defense and/or other anti-cancer agenst, there could be pain involved.

For whatever reasons, most often cancer pain from dying cancer cells seems to be greatest in bone locations - especially when it comes to oleander. Usually though, pain at the cancer/tumor sites gradually lessens and ultimately is less than before beginning treatment.

I am not suggesting that such is the case with you and berry juice, as there also could be other reasons for the pain in an area that may already be sensitive and raw - just saying it is something to consider.

In answer to your other post, no I have no specific sources for berry or other juice at this time. If at all possible, I would opt for organic non-pasteurized.

All the best,

Tony