Guest guest Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 , The doctor wants to do surgery because she has decided not to have any more chemo. How else are they going to get her back into their system? If they can talk her into the surgery, which she seems like she's been talked into, then she will have to do more chemo and she is back into their web again. She hasn't gotten away from them. Back in August '08 when she was first diagnosed she did chemo once and then again in three weeks. After that she decided she wouldn't do anymore. She felt it would kill her. The doctors called her home and told her she would die in three months if she didn't do chemo. She did Budwig for three months and was great. She started Oleander on the fourth month and then was talked into chemo again. It is hard for me to keep her from the docs. I live in CA and she is in Philly. I can't go to her doctor appointments with her either being so far. I fear the worst if she does the surgery. I believe, in the long run, she would be around longer and healthier without chemo or surgery. She gets it one day and then the next she talks to those darn doctors and they convince her otherwise. Thanks for your input. Hugs, Rose www.orangecountypropertyservices.com 714.549-3519 Office/Fax 714.349-1200 Cell Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. ~Dr. Seuss oleander soup From: luellamay129Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 22:44:31 +0000 Re: Are Pancreatic Enzymes killers? Mike and Lisa Hi Rosemarie, Your fears with regard to surgery and then chemo are well founded. I would explain it to her just as you put it in this forum. I see nothing but good news. She is feeling well, the tumor has shrunk and her numbers are going down. Tony has a wonderful way of describing how Oleander affects cancer. He describes it as a battle. First the cancer has a hold, then as the Oleander starts to work, the cancer is first slowed down, then reversed, and then erradicated. As long as she continues taking Oleander and Tony's protocol, I see no reason why the cancer would start growing again. Keep in mind, chemo is not the answer. We are susceptible to fear when either we or a loved one has cancer and doctors use this and sometimes intimidation to get us to follow their advice, which by the way very rarely works. Oleander does not work like chemo. Keep in mind, Oleander is natural, and chemo is a dangerous toxic drug. There is a big difference and in no way will any remaining cancer cells become resistant to the Oleander. The same goes for the Budwig Diet. She should keep doing this. I know that the decision is hers, but I sincerely hope that she follows your advice. Surgery can in fact, cause the cancer cells to spread and bingo! this is why chemo is required after surgery. And I'm going to add my two cents here. It looks like the doctor is scaring her into this. Point out the positive to her. She's feeling well, her numbers are down dramatically and the tumor has shrunk. If the tumor is shrinking on its own and she is making such good progress why would the doctor want to do surgery? oleander soup , Rosemarie Geiger <gypsy___rose wrote:>> > Bob,> > Believe me, I know we can't tell her what to do! I wish we could, I've feel a lot better but, the decision has to be hers. > > I just had the question about the chemo. She was on the chemo and I'm sure that that also helped to shrink the tumor along with the Oleander and the Budwig Protocol.> > I'm worried that if she continues with only the Oleander and Budwig and does not do the surgery or try anything else that the tumor will start to grow again and even faster than before. I read a post on this group that the chemo shrinks the cancer to the point of not working anymore because what is left are the most resistant cells. Won't these be immune to Oleander and Budwig as well? I was against any chemo and thought she was doing well enough with the Oleander and Budwig Program she was doing. I'm afraid that doing the chemo made things worse for her in the long run. I'm really worried now about the surgery. If she has it, I'm afraid it will spread her cancer to other parts of her body. I'm afraid she will have to do more chemo after the surgery and that this will further distress her body and the Oleander and Budwig will not be able to help her overcome the damage. I just don't know how to explain this all to her.> > Thanks for your comments.> > > Hugs,> Rose > www.orangecountypropertyservices.com> 714.549-3519 Office/Fax > 714.349-1200 Cell> Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. ~Dr. Seuss> Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 Rosemarie, Oh bless your heart, I understand. And you have the system all figured out. I so hope that she realizes all you have explained to her before the surgery. Hugs to you, oleander soup , Rosemarie Geiger <gypsy___rose wrote:>> > ,> > The doctor wants to do surgery because she has decided not to have any more chemo. How else are they going to get her back into their system? If they can talk her into the surgery, which she seems like she's been talked into, then she will have to do more chemo and she is back into their web again. She hasn't gotten away from them. > > Back in August '08 when she was first diagnosed she did chemo once and then again in three weeks. After that she decided she wouldn't do anymore. She felt it would kill her. The doctors called her home and told her she would die in three months if she didn't do chemo. She did Budwig for three months and was great. She started Oleander on the fourth month and then was talked into chemo again. It is hard for me to keep her from the docs. I live in CA and she is in Philly. I can't go to her doctor appointments with her either being so far. I fear the worst if she does the surgery. I believe, in the long run, she would be around longer and healthier without chemo or surgery. She gets it one day and then the next she talks to those darn doctors and they convince her otherwise.> > Thanks for your input.> > > Hugs,> Rose > www.orangecountypropertyservices.com> 714.549-3519 Office/Fax > 714.349-1200 Cell> Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. ~Dr. Seuss> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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