Guest guest Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 wow, cutting right to the chase. i dont believe that what you are asking for exists. one fact stands head and shoulders above the rest and that is that iodine supplementation is as individual as DNA. however, getting started is easy and getting adjusted just takes a little time and paying attention to your body. the body needs two " kinds " of iodine. the first is elemental iodine or I2. this is iodine in its pure form. it naturally takes the form of a molecule consisting of two atoms of iodine, quite similar to the O2(oxygen) that we breathe in from the atmosphere. it is this form which seems most beneficial regarding cancer. it goes immediately to the lining of the gut and soon shows up in the sex organs and glands, skin, etc. it is the type needed for most of the things that, without iodine, promotes cancerous conditions. remember, supplementing iodine cures iodine deficiency and halogen imbalance. if a condition was caused or promoted in part by iodine deficiency, then iodine supplementation will most likely positively affect that condition. if iodine deficiency was not at the root of the cause, then efficacy will be diminished accordingly. this is true of all supplements. there are tried and true products that contain both iodine and iodide, most notably lugols strong(5%) iodine solution(get that from jcrows.com) and the pill form of lugols called iodoral(from breastcancerchoices.com). still talking about I2, it is the I2 that can be very hard to handle in large doses. i got up to 300mg of iodine(one drop of 5% lugols equals approximately 6.25mg) and the oxidative stress of the I2 reached a a point that it was bothersome to me. knowing about the cayce readings on detoxifying iodine, i took extremely strong magnets, the kind you find in old hard drives, and taped them tot he bottle to simulate the electrified bath that iodine is treated in. this immediately made the I2 more tolerable to the body and i was able to double that dose to 600mg without the stress. to take higher doses, i had to convert the iodine to iodide using vit C or simple orange juice. i now recommend magnascent because mr brookshire is treating his I2 tincture according to cayce in his most advanced reading on the subject. he offers it in 1% and 2% strengths. i have tried both and they are amazingly effective and beneficial even though one is ingesting much less iodine. i swear by it. in a cancer situation, I2 is critical. it needs to be taken with water so it remains elemental and on an empty stomach. I2 has been shown by the docs in the iodine project to peak and be out of serum in the body over a 2 hour period. therefore i have been recommending to cancer patients and those with FBD to take it every two hours to keep it available in the system. how much is only a guess. one of the things i like about iodine is the safety margin. it is so hard to take too much but really easy to take too little. i am not saying to throw caution tot he wind, but courage is necessary to take the amount that works. take enough to do the job. how one monitors that goes back to the individual. even the iodine docs who use lugols in their clinics must tell their patients to tell them if they are getting enough o too much. it is the ultimate DIY supplement and well worth the effort to get it right. when i take magnascent, i take one or two droppers full of the 2%, depending on how much of a boost i want. it really helps mental clarity, stamina and overall energy. and always remember, i have purposely over supplemented so that i can assure people of safety and to give an idea of upper limits. certainly 2 droppers full of 2% magnascent on the first try would be too much for most. starting low is a good idea on the surface of it and this works well for most people. further explanation of this will be needed. then there is iodide. iodine is a salt. potassium iodide is exactly the form used by the thyroid. it is also the best lung medicine i have ever used. in the old days, the saying among doctors was, 'if ye know not the where or why, K and I.' it really does work like a charm in many instances. there is not the oxidative stress with KI like there is with I2. dr szent-gyorgi, the nobel prize winner who discovered vitamin C lived to 93 taking one gram of KI per day. 100 years ago, KI was given to people by the gram, 5 grams being the largest dose i could find, so i tried it. yep, five grams of KI containing over 3500mgs of iodine(minus the potassium.) so, you may ask, why take KI when I2 is what is needed for help with cancer? good question. this brings us to some of the other things iodine does in the body. it dispalces heavy metals like mercury, cadmium, arsenic, lead, etc. it also, in amounts large enough to overcome the halogen potential of lighter halogens, displaces fluoride and bromide in the body. it doesnt, however, chelate or bind to those chemicals. this can create a herx effect. that is also the danger of low dosing. one can, and i have seen this time and again, take enough iodine to loosen up mercury, for example, and get the brain fog associated with it and it never go away as long as the dose is maintained. stopping the supplements will stop the symptoms by allowing the body to reabsorb the mercury. but UPPING the dose creates an environment where not only are these things being circulated but are being eliminated because there is too much iodine to allow their effects to be felt. the other reason to take KI while taking I2 is that the body can and does convert I2 to iodide for use in the thyroid and elsewhere. since I2 is admittedly hard on the body in large doses and all that iodine(I2) needs to be available for those things that discourage cancer, KI allows for this and prevents using up the elemental for other things. something of note from the iodine project regarding this it that although the I2 is out of serum in two hours, it is not known whether this is because it has been absorbed by the body as I2 or if it has been converted. in my opinion, being converted would be worse case because that would mean the body's antioxidants, specifically glutathione but also vit C, etc, is getting used up and setting up even more oxidative stress, and not just from iodine but from any free radicals, be it nitrates from your fried meat(which no one with cancer should eat) to good old O2 and h2o2 and ozone. gotta keep the glut up and the liver protected. i sell SSKI - saturated solution of potassium iodide. http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1272098#i the tahoma clinic is the only other place i know to buy SSKI, but mine is better. i do not believe that lugols is an optimal supplement for any reason. it got all the attention it did on the iodine supp forum at curezone because that is what was available and it was cheap and it definitely works. things have changed since then - lugols has been severely restricted by the DEA because they cant do the job they are supposed to so they have to hassle law abiding citizens to justify their salaries and we have learned a lot more about iodine supplementing. a combination of doing SSKI and magnascent is the most effective, IMHO. i would say beginning the day with a goodly dose of KI with your fruit juice and then every two hours doing X amount of drops of magnascent throughout the day would produce the desired benefit most efficiently and effectively. also, we have a ton of FAQs at the iodine forum which talk a lot about companion supplements and common problems beginning iosupping. one thing is for sure, selenium is critical. iodine and selenium are my only consistent daily supps. selenium needs to be pre-methylated, so the form called selenomethionine is a must, not the elemental form from yeast that is found in the grocery stores. this is because higher doses are needed, from 800 to 1200mcg, depending on the level of iodine intake. for me, a half a gram of KI and 800mcg of selenomethionine are a minimum and right next to water and oxygen in importance. oleander soup , " lillisilly " <evangelnet wrote: > > > *let me know how i can be of further assistance.* > > Can you please tell what product(s) to order by name, and from where, and then give a specific dosage schedule...I'm not too good at figuring that kind of thing out, but I'm real good at following directions. ;-) > > Thanks, Jill~ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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