AHA - that guy! (Are Pancreatic Enzymes killers?)

April 5, 2009

My position is quite simple: Pancreatic enzymes which contain chimotrypsin are extremely valuable tools for fighting cancer (and have a great many other health benefits as well) PROVIDED THAT you also take the major elements recommended in my suggested protocol which directly attack cancer and which strengthen the body's natural immune system so that it can attack cancer as well.

If you have an enemy bunker with a concrete roof and you position big guns all around the bunker and then blow the top of the bunker off, you will likely destroy the enemy. ON the other hand, if you have no guns or just a few weak ones you might not want to open up that bunker! And that might be a good analogy to what was observed in the rats in that one study.

One thing you can count on Jim: anything that is not a mainstream controlled and patented drug or treatment which shows positive results against cancer or other major illnesses will assuredly have studies produced which show that it is ineffective if not downright dangerous.

Personally, I take two pancreatin and three enzyme plus capsules twice a day plus a bromelain capsule.

BTW, why would you have problems in another forum for naming the "doctor" (who is actually not a doctor but a chemist who serves as cheerleader for a Tiajuana clinic) in this forum? Are you saying someone would snitch you out and you could get in trouble for what you posted in another forum?

Given my experience with that group, I don't doubt it. I suppose it might be accurate to call that forum extremely valuable because of all the information you get there (though I have to wonder just how valuable filtered information is). I personally found it to be inflexible with too many untouchables whose opinion you dare not differ with. I was kicked off the forum because someone there did not agree with oleander and did not want to be confused with facts nor bothered with opinions contrary to their own.

I really have a problem with people on these forums who set themselves up as the ultimate and ONLY authorities and let their egos prevent people from being helped. What is more important - stroking your ego and appearing infallible or someone's life?

oleander soup , "jrrjim" <jim.mcelroy10 wrote:>> > Sorry, Tony, I missed this post for some reason, although I got your email.> > The reason I don't reveal this guy's name are for the following reasons:> > 1. And I mean #1: It is, in no way, my intention to disrupt this extremely valuable forum. It would be devastating to me to be monitored or banned. I got put on "monitored" status in that other group for tangling with this guy before. If someone were to try to disrupt this forum, one way might be to try to pit one person against another, and I do not want to do that in any way.> > 2. I do have some respect for this guy's opinions, and I do not want to accuse him of quackery or only being out for a buck. He does present a logical argument regarding the enzymes, which is that Rath, et. al., claim convincingly that you need to encapsulate tumors in fibrous material to prevent them from spreading, and that pancreatic enzymes will dissolve this fibrous material and promote metastasis. Logically this makes some sense! Now our own Mike has come along and said that he thinks this is not the major issue in metastasis, and I hugely value Mike's opinion also.> > This other guy says that he has seen many cases of metastasis following the consumption of proteolytic enzymes. Is he lying? If so, why? Or did he get an unrepresentative sample? Does he have some other hidden agenda? Hell, I don't know!!! All I want to do is to discern the truth of the matter, and to keep from unitentionally killing myself.> > The major problem here is that we have two extreme poles, apparently. Either this stuff (pancreatic enzymes) is hugely good for you, or it is hugely bad for you. I cannot think of any other substance discussed so far with such a massive polarity involved. >