Welcome Natalie

March 18, 2009

Hey Natalie!

Welcome to our humble group. I think you will find it a wee bit different than the Anoxymoron and Beavis group. I might have got those spellings wrong . . . (smile)

Yes, it is hard for me not to jump back in and keep poking a stick at that hornet's nest, especially since they still have their stingers out and are taking jabs at me. What do they not understand about bidding them farewell?

Their continued insistence on "scientific data" and saying that they are waiting for proof from anyone in the group here, at CureZone or anywhere else who was cured of cancer after mainstream medicine failed them, or cured by alternative natural means in place of maistream medicine, is nothing but a smokescreen. They refuse to accept testimonials as proof, censor the messages of people who have gone there to set them straight and have even banned poor Chris.

I note that they have refused my invitations to come to this group or go to CureZone and find out the truth about natural alternatives or about me, whom they continue to paint as an evil snake oil salesman who preys on the fears of the terminally ill by offering them false hope. Although I really do not want to see them sullying the caring atmosphere we have here, I would really like them to come here and tell the people who have won or are winning their battles against cancer how they should have accepted their oncologists diagnoses of terminal illness and just gone home in defeat to die.

Sometimes I think it is pointless for me to get involved in such a situation, take such a beating and try to get my message across against such close-minded people. But you know, if just one single person might be helped then it is worth it. And hopefully at least person will be helped because I stuck it out - your mum.

Yes, I too hope that you find the information here that your mum needs. I cannot emphasize how important I think it is to try to get her to do as much as possible on the anti-cancer protocol I suggest and do so as soon as possible.

We will be here for you and your mum whenever you need us and will keep the both of you in our thoughts and prayers. And please keep in touch and let us know how she is doing.

All the best,

oleander soup , "nataliecella" <nataliecella wrote:>> > HI Tony!> > I think you'll find that woman whos mum has been batling mainstream medicine was me:)> > I hope they "anaxymperator" haven't disheartened you with all their uneducated insults... they are indeed very good at dishing them out, and though I have thought about leaving their blog alone, i find it great to challenge them on there repetitive answers, half the time they agree modern medicine isn;t all its cracked up to be, yet somehow still defend it till they're blue in the face and swearing at people like me and you and poor chris beckett!> > anyway> > I hope that I find hope in the many members on this blog who have been helped by your information and treatment suggestions...> > I only hope the same can be said of my mumma> > I would encourage other members to challenge those on the anax blog, beware they are a bunch of nasty people, surprisngly many of them have cancer... > all that anger and resentment is probably the root of their illness..> anyway don;t be put off by their abuse, it lietrally is abuse at the end of the day they are at loss for closed mindedness> > chat to you all soon> > Natalie>

March 19, 2009

Hi Tony,

thanks for the welcome

what a change it is indeed from anax... hehe

I look forward to being part of this blog..

I must mention however, chris has not been banned, apprently it was purely out

of " emotion " that anax banned him, beatis says that a lot of the bloggers get up

set as cancer is a tough istuation for those involved... don't we all know ALL

about that?

that somehow excues the abuse and innapporpriate language. anyway she insists

she would like to know about chris' story, so if he would like another chance i

quote beatis

" No, he wasn't banned. Anax said this because he was very emotional, but we

decided to give Mr Beckett the opportunity to tell his story.

I think he left because we didn't believe his stories at face value and wanted

some underpinning. I also happen to know why he came here in the first place. I

know you are sympathetic towards alternative medicine, but in my opinion there

are far better ones to give your sympathy to than Mr Beckett. Also, I think it's

never wrong to apply some healthy skepticism when people tell you that they

alone can do what nobody else can, such as curing terminal cancer. "

anyway I will keep you posted on my mums health...

she is awaiting results of a bone scan.. im absolutely terrified of the

results... and know her oncologist will say chemo straight away if cancer is

found there too, when she has just finished 6 months worth!

apparently we are the blind ones though when we look elsewhere for solutions??

anyway

hear from you soon!

best

Natalie

oleander soup , " Tony " wrote:

>

> Hey Natalie!

>

> Welcome to our humble group. I think you will find it a wee bit

> different than the Anoxymoron and Beavis group. I might have got those

> spellings wrong . . . (smile)

>

> Yes, it is hard for me not to jump back in and keep poking a stick at

> that hornet's nest, especially since they still have their stingers out

> and are taking jabs at me. What do they not understand about bidding

> them farewell?

>

> Their continued insistence on " scientific data " and saying that they are

> waiting for proof from anyone in the group here, at CureZone or anywhere

> else who was cured of cancer after mainstream medicine failed them, or

> cured by alternative natural means in place of maistream medicine, is

> nothing but a smokescreen. They refuse to accept testimonials as proof,

> censor the messages of people who have gone there to set them straight

> and have even banned poor Chris.

>

> I note that they have refused my invitations to come to this group or go

> to CureZone and find out the truth about natural alternatives or about

> me, whom they continue to paint as an evil snake oil salesman who preys

> on the fears of the terminally ill by offering them false hope.

> Although I really do not want to see them sullying the caring atmosphere

> we have here, I would really like them to come here and tell the people

> who have won or are winning their battles against cancer how they should

> have accepted their oncologists diagnoses of terminal illness and just

> gone home in defeat to die.

>

> Sometimes I think it is pointless for me to get involved in such a

> situation, take such a beating and try to get my message across against

> such close-minded people. But you know, if just one single person might

> be helped then it is worth it. And hopefully at least person will be

> helped because I stuck it out - your mum.

>

> Yes, I too hope that you find the information here that your mum needs.

> I cannot emphasize how important I think it is to try to get her to do

> as much as possible on the anti-cancer protocol I suggest and do so as

> soon as possible.

>

> We will be here for you and your mum whenever you need us and will keep

> the both of you in our thoughts and prayers. And please keep in touch

> and let us know how she is doing.

>

> All the best,

>

> >

>

> oleander soup , " nataliecella " <nataliecella@>

> wrote:

> >

> > HI Tony!

> >

> > I think you'll find that woman whos mum has been batling mainstream

> medicine was me:)

> >

> > I hope they " anaxymperator " haven't disheartened you with all their

> uneducated insults... they are indeed very good at dishing them out, and

> though I have thought about leaving their blog alone, i find it great to

> challenge them on there repetitive answers, half the time they agree

> modern medicine isn;t all its cracked up to be, yet somehow still defend

> it till they're blue in the face and swearing at people like me and you

> and poor chris beckett!

> >

> > anyway

> >

> > I hope that I find hope in the many members on this blog who have been

> helped by your information and treatment suggestions...

> >

> > I only hope the same can be said of my mumma

> >

> > I would encourage other members to challenge those on the anax blog,

> beware they are a bunch of nasty people, surprisngly many of them have

> cancer...

> > all that anger and resentment is probably the root of their illness..

> > anyway don;t be put off by their abuse, it lietrally is abuse at the

> end of the day they are at loss for closed mindedness

> >

> > chat to you all soon

> >

> > Natalie

> >

>

March 19, 2009

Natalie -

Beavis and Oxymoron say that they want proof and then refuse to accept hundreds of actual people who have been given terminal diagnoses who turned to natural and alternative treatment and are still alive? Forget so-called psycience, what more proof is that?

What about all the many thousands who refused mainstream treatments to begin with who are now cancer free. Scientific data is few and far between precisely because those who have hundreds of billions of dollars at stake and who control and can afford the studies make sure there is no such data.

Obviously their minds are locked and they will accept no proof - look how they censor and ban (or threaten to ban or say they have banned someone). Look at how they attack, curse and otherwise insult and defame anyone who dares contradict them.

After the abuse they gave to Chris and stating that he was banned by the blog owner I do not blame him for not going back on that forum and I will not encourage him to do so. He has posted his story more than once on CureZone, but those people refuse to go participate there or here, despite being invited to do so, or anywhere else that where they are not in control and would be questioned beyond what they could justify.

I don't blame anyone for being skeptical when someone says that they can cure cancer, particularly when they say that they alone can do so (which is a totally bogus claim for anyone to make). Contrary to what they have tried to claim, I have never stated anywhere that I alone can cure cancer or even that I can cure cancer. What I have stated is that oleander, several other items and the overall protocol I suggest has been very successful against cancer and the proof of that is abundant to the point of being beyond doubt.

I notice that in the latest posted reply to you over at that other place, the evenasiine character says:

"Yeah, accusing anyone who doesn't parrot false health treatment claims as 'ignorant' and 'negative' (and many more nasty remarks) is really promoting conversation."

Yeah right, them accusing others of nasty remarks when that is their trademark. I would ask him if refusing to even admit the possiblity that an alternate treatment might be successful is a way to promote conversation. OK, enough said of those dupes.

I can only hope that you are able to convince your mother of the truth about chemo. It does not cure, it kills - and it does so by leaving the underlying cause of cancer untreated while destroying the natural immune system that is the first line of defense against cancer as well as the major organs needed to sustain a healthy life, especially the liver and heart.

Chemo has a virtual zero success rate against cancer that has metasticized. Zero! At best it might add a month or few of truly horrible quality life before the patient dies. 75% of oncologists surveyed said that they would not subject themselves or their family to chemo if they had cancer because of the low success rates and horrible side effects. But that does not stop them from prescribing chemo for 75% of their patients. The reasons are two-fold. First, they do not know about alternative healing and their patients want something to try to beat cancer with. The darker and larger motivation may be the fact that 75% of the income of the average oncologist comes from the huge markups they make on the chemo drugs they sell and prescribe.

If your mum absolutely insists on chemo, please let her know that oleander greatly increases the success and survival rate of chemo, both potentiating the chemo and either eliminating or lessening virtually all known side-effects including hair loss (with the exception that oleander does not eliminate hair loss when the chemo drug of choice is Cisplatin).

Ultimately, the decision is your mum's to make and whatever it is, we will be here for you and her both.

oleander soup , "nataliecella" <nataliecella wrote:>> Hi Tony,> > thanks for the welcome > what a change it is indeed from anax... hehe> > I look forward to being part of this blog..> > I must mention however, chris has not been banned, apprently it was purely out of "emotion" that anax banned him, beatis says that a lot of the bloggers get up set as cancer is a tough istuation for those involved... don't we all know ALL about that?> that somehow excues the abuse and innapporpriate language. anyway she insists she would like to know about chris' story, so if he would like another chance i quote beatis > > "No, he wasn't banned. Anax said this because he was very emotional, but we decided to give Mr Beckett the opportunity to tell his story