Inviting one and all to go set some mainstream know-it-alls straight

[Guest guest]

Usually I try o keep some of the dustups I get into outside this site to myself, but just this once I would like to invite one and all to go take a look at another fine mess I got myself into:

http://anaximperator.wordpress.com/2008/11/09/simoncini-scam-murderer/

Yes, it is a blogsite with incredibly close minded mainstream agents and trolls - so much so that the know-it-all moderator refused to let me provide information for a woman whose mother had been given up on by mainstream medicine (though finally I managed to get my information to her and hopefully we will be welcoming her as a new member soon).

Her guiding thought is that once mainstream medicine tells you that you are terminal nothing can save you and you should just accept the sentence and die. Period.

Anyway, she and a couple of others pounded on me relentlessly but I think you can see that I more than held my ground despite the rigged nature of the blogsite.

Feel free to set them straight - I told them it was senseless for me to try to speak with someone whose ears and minds were closed and bid them farewell - but I see from my email notifications that they just used that as an opportunity to repeat their lies and take parting shots.

It seems to me that someone telling them that they were diagnosed as terminal and then beat cancer would totally defeat their argument. They might come back and say that you were merely misdiagnosed, but that too would defeat them because how could they say with certainty that others given terminal prognosis were not similarly misdiagnosed and could therefore save themselves the same as you?

And so, just this once I invite any other member who reads this to go give them a piece of your mind and set them straight, especially those who are alive today after being given terminal diagnosis.

While you are there, be sure to tell them what a horrible person I am.

 

Tony

[Guest guest]

I doubt their moderator will let too much slip through.

 

The reactions I have gotten from people when I've told them I'm fighting my

" death sentence " just amaze me. Many are supportive, in a vague sense, but

most assume I will die shortly, and some are infuriated that I won't just die

the way medical science wants me to.

 

Infuriated. Enraged. It is really weird. My sister, who was an oncologist

nurse for awhile, is the worst offender. She has actively done everything in

her power to literally kill me -- she tried to take my children away from me,

she promised financial support then jerked it away at a moment most intended to

cause maximal damage, she tried to bust up my marriage, tried force me into

traditional care -- chemo that the doctor already said would not work for me yet

would make me deathly ill...

 

It is just weird beyond belief how some people react.

 

oleander soup , " Tony " wrote:

>

> Usually I try o keep some of the dustups I get into outside this site to

> myself, but just this once I would like to invite one and all to go take

> a look at another fine mess I got myself into:

>

> http://anaximperator.wordpress.com/2008/11/09/simoncini-scam-murderer/

> <http://anaximperator.wordpress.com/2008/11/09/simoncini-scam-murderer/>

>

>

> Yes, it is a blogsite with incredibly close minded mainstream agents and

> trolls - so much so that the know-it-all moderator refused to let me

> provide information for a woman whose mother had been given up on by

> mainstream medicine (though finally I managed to get my information to

> her and hopefully we will be welcoming her as a new member soon).

>

> Her guiding thought is that once mainstream medicine tells you that you

> are terminal nothing can save you and you should just accept the

> sentence and die. Period.

>

>

> Anyway, she and a couple of others pounded on me relentlessly but I

> think you can see that I more than held my ground despite the rigged

> nature of the blogsite.

>

>

> Feel free to set them straight - I told them it was senseless for me to

> try to speak with someone whose ears and minds were closed and bid them

> farewell - but I see from my email notifications that they just used

> that as an opportunity to repeat their lies and take parting shots.

>

>

> It seems to me that someone telling them that they were diagnosed as

> terminal and then beat cancer would totally defeat their argument. They

> might come back and say that you were merely misdiagnosed, but that too

> would defeat them because how could they say with certainty that others

> given terminal prognosis were not similarly misdiagnosed and could

> therefore save themselves the same as you?

>

>

> And so, just this once I invite any other member who reads this to go

> give them a piece of your mind and set them straight, especially those

> who are alive today after being given terminal diagnosis.

>

> While you are there, be sure to tell them what a horrible person I am.

>

> []

>

> >

[Guest guest]

Jim,

I can relate to what you say and I find this mindset absolutely amazing. Once diagnosed with cancer, many times the best promise you will get is an extension of life. I think this is a travesty. The patient is resigned to die and if he finds alternative measures and does something positive in changing to a healthy lifestyle they are met with disdain.

This subject tears to the core of my heart as I have had friends with this mindset. They have rejected all alternative measures only to obey their doctors. And they have been obedient unto death. Even while in hospice, after the doctors have said there is no more they could do, they have rejected alternative measures. Their last hope for life. Why??????? And even while in hospice doctors tell them that alternative measures are dangerous. I consider this nothing short of murder.

As of this writing I have yet another very dear friend with cancer who has rejected alternative measures. She will not even join the group to even read of our successes. She is undergoing chemo and is very ill, not only with the cancer but with the side effects. And I am so afraid that she will be yet another of my friends who will be obedient unto death. It breaks my heart. And makes me sick. Down to my very soul.

They pray and pray for healing while poisoning their bodies with chemo, radiation, and leading a totally unhealthy lifestyle. All along the answer is right in front of them from the messenger that God has put right in front of them. And they look the other way.

This turned into a rant. Sorry. But there is so much pain involved when you watch your friends and loved ones suffer, and suffer needlessly.

Hugs,

 

oleander soup , "jrrjim" <jim.mcelroy10 wrote:>> I doubt their moderator will let too much slip through.> > The reactions I have gotten from people when I've told them I'm fighting my "death sentence" just amaze me. Many are supportive, in a vague sense, but most assume I will die shortly, and some are infuriated that I won't just die the way medical science wants me to. > > Infuriated. Enraged. It is really weird. My sister, who was an oncologist nurse for awhile, is the worst offender. She has actively done everything in her power to literally kill me -- she tried to take my children away from me, she promised financial support then jerked it away at a moment most intended to cause maximal damage, she tried to bust up my marriage, tried force me into traditional care -- chemo that the doctor already said would not work for me yet would make me deathly ill...> > It is just weird beyond belief how some people react. >

[Guest guest]

Jim,Holy cow what a story!  I've always thought myself that if anyone in my family got cancer (especially my kids) I would keep it a secret.Right now the elders of our church who are retired doctors and their son, who is a doctor are accepting the death sentence of their daughter-in-law.  Do I dare say to them that there is another way? They are 50 years older than me and garner no small amount of respect among the other members, as you can imagine. 

The strength of the brain-washing campaign is quite obvious in our stories, isn't it?I heard an interview the other day where the person said the " truth embargo " is a violation of our civil rights.

Well put.Jim, I do hope after all that your marriage is still sound and your kids are still with you.Kind regards,Janet

[Guest guest]

Sorry, I get so pissed off at the mere topic sentences spouted by these cretins that I cannot toss my knife into the ring.d--- On Mon, 3/16/09, Tony wrote:Tony Inviting one and all to go set some mainstream know-it-alls straightoleander soup Date: Monday, March 16, 2009, 4:57 AM

Usually I try o keep some of the dustups I get into outside this site to myself, but just this once I would like to invite one and all to go take a look at another fine mess I got myself into:

http://anaximperator.wordpress.com/2008/11/09/simoncini-scam-murderer/

Yes, it is a blogsite with incredibly close minded mainstream agents and trolls - so much so that the know-it-all moderator refused to let me provide information for a woman whose mother had been given up on by mainstream medicine (though finally I managed to get my information to her and hopefully we will be welcoming her as a new member soon).

Her guiding thought is that once mainstream medicine tells you that you are terminal nothing can save you and you should just accept the sentence and die. Period.

Anyway, she and a couple of others pounded on me relentlessly but I think you can see that I more than held my ground despite the rigged nature of the blogsite.

Feel free to set them straight - I told them it was senseless for me to try to speak with someone whose ears and minds were closed and bid them farewell - but I see from my email notifications that they just used that as an opportunity to repeat their lies and take parting shots.

It seems to me that someone telling them that they were diagnosed as terminal and then beat cancer would totally defeat their argument. They might come back and say that you were merely misdiagnosed, but that too would defeat them because how could they say with certainty that others given terminal prognosis were not similarly misdiagnosed and could therefore save themselves the same as you?

And so, just this once I invite any other member who reads this to go give them a piece of your mind and set them straight, especially those who are alive today after being given terminal diagnosis.

While you are there, be sure to tell them what a horrible person I am.

 

Tony

[Guest guest]

HI Tony!

 

I think you'll find that woman whos mum has been batling mainstream medicine was

me:)

 

I hope they " anaxymperator " haven't disheartened you with all their uneducated

insults... they are indeed very good at dishing them out, and though I have

thought about leaving their blog alone, i find it great to challenge them on

there repetitive answers, half the time they agree modern medicine isn;t all its

cracked up to be, yet somehow still defend it till they're blue in the face and

swearing at people like me and you and poor chris beckett!

 

anyway

 

I hope that I find hope in the many members on this blog who have been helped by

your information and treatment suggestions...

 

I only hope the same can be said of my mumma

 

I would encourage other members to challenge those on the anax blog, beware they

are a bunch of nasty people, surprisngly many of them have cancer...

all that anger and resentment is probably the root of their illness..

anyway don;t be put off by their abuse, it lietrally is abuse at the end of the

day they are at loss for closed mindedness

 

chat to you all soon

 

Natalie

 

 

 

oleander soup , " david \ " tree sloth\ " hopkins "

<dlipffarm wrote:

>

> Sorry, I get so pissed off at the mere topic sentences spouted by these

cretins that I cannot toss my knife into the ring.

> d

>

> --- On Mon, 3/16/09, Tony wrote:

> Tony

> Inviting one and all to go set some mainstream

know-it-alls straight

> oleander soup

> Monday, March 16, 2009, 4:57 AM

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

Usually I try o keep some of the dustups I get into outside this site to

myself, but just this once I would like to invite one and all to go take a look

at another fine mess I got myself into:

>

> http://anaximperator.wordpress.com/2008/11/09/simoncini-scam-murderer/

>

> Yes, it is a blogsite with incredibly close minded mainstream agents and

trolls - so much so that the know-it-all moderator refused to let me provide

information for a woman whose mother had been given up on by mainstream medicine

(though finally I managed to get my information to her and hopefully we will be

welcoming her as a new member soon).

> Her guiding thought is that once mainstream medicine tells you that you are

terminal nothing can save you and you should just accept the sentence and die.

Period.

>

> Anyway, she and a couple of others pounded on me relentlessly but I think you

can see that I more than held my ground despite the rigged nature of the

blogsite.

>

> Feel free to set them straight - I told them it was senseless for me to try to

speak with someone whose ears and minds were closed and bid them farewell - but

I see from my email notifications that they just used that as an opportunity to

repeat their lies and take parting shots.

>

> It seems to me that someone telling them that they were diagnosed as terminal

and then beat cancer would totally defeat their argument. They might come back

and say that you were merely misdiagnosed, but that too would defeat them

because how could they say with certainty that others given terminal prognosis

were not similarly misdiagnosed and could therefore save themselves the same as

you?

>

> And so, just this once I invite any other member who reads this to go give

them a piece of your mind and set them straight, especially those who are alive

today after being given terminal diagnosis.

> While you are there, be sure to tell them what a horrible person I am.

>

> >

[Guest guest]

I am sorry about that, but you have to

except what you can not change. It’s not easy because I been there and it

was my brother. May the Lord give you the strength as you need it right now.

 

 

 

 

 

 

oleander soup oleander soup On Behalf Of May

Monday, March 16, 2009 11:41

AM

oleander soup

Re:

Inviting one and all to go set some mainstream know-it-alls straight

 

 

 

 

 

Jim,

I can relate to what you say and I find this mindset

absolutely amazing. Once diagnosed with cancer, many times the best

promise you will get is an extension of life. I think this is a

travesty. The patient is resigned to die and if he finds alternative

measures and does something positive in changing to a healthy lifestyle they

are met with disdain.

This subject tears to the core of my heart as I have had

friends with this mindset. They have rejected all alternative measures

only to obey their doctors. And they have been obedient unto death.

Even while in hospice, after the doctors have said there is no more they could

do, they have rejected alternative measures. Their last hope for

life. Why??????? And even while in hospice doctors tell them that

alternative measures are dangerous. I consider this nothing short of

murder.

As of this writing I have yet another very dear friend with

cancer who has rejected alternative measures. She will not even join the

group to even read of our successes. She is undergoing chemo and is very

ill, not only with the cancer but with the side effects. And I am so

afraid that she will be yet another of my friends who will be obedient unto

death. It breaks my heart. And makes me sick. Down to my very

soul.

They pray and pray for healing while poisoning their bodies

with chemo, radiation, and leading a totally unhealthy lifestyle. All

along the answer is right in front of them from the messenger that God has put

right in front of them. And they look the other way.

This turned into a rant. Sorry. But there is so

much pain involved when you watch your friends and loved ones suffer, and

suffer needlessly.

Hugs,

 

 

oleander soup , " jrrjim "

<jim.mcelroy10 wrote:

>

> I doubt their moderator will let too much slip through.

>

> The reactions I have gotten from people when I've told them I'm fighting

my " death sentence " just amaze me. Many are supportive, in a vague

sense, but most assume I will die shortly, and some are infuriated that I won't

just die the way medical science wants me to.

>

> Infuriated. Enraged. It is really weird. My sister, who was an oncologist

nurse for awhile, is the worst offender. She has actively done everything in

her power to literally kill me -- she tried to take my children away from me,

she promised financial support then jerked it away at a moment most intended to

cause maximal damage, she tried to bust up my marriage, tried force me into

traditional care -- chemo that the doctor already said would not work for me

yet would make me deathly ill...

>

> It is just weird beyond belief how some people react.

>