Guest guest Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 Hi. My mom has stage 4 NSCLC diagnosed since last March and now she has mets to not only her liver but also to her bones and spinal cord. I am desperately looking for something else to help her other than radiotherapy which I read that can make the cancer resistant to other alternative therapies subsequently. Does anyone has any experience treating advanced lung cancer with oleander? As I stay in Singapore and have no way to grow or make my own oleander soup, I am probably going to get sutherlandia OPC. Is this a good option? Open to any suggestion.. Thanks very much. HP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 Hi HP, Getting Sutherlandia OPC is an excellent choice. Oleander is, in fact, effective against lung cancer. Tony has a testimony with regard to his uncle in this regard. Besides ordering Sutherlandia OPC, make sure she follows as much of Tony's Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol as possible. All of it would be ideal. In order to rid one's body of cancer, one must adapt an overall healthy lifestyle. And yes, Oleander is a most important part of this protocol. /anticancer.htm Pay close attention to her diet. First thing to do is eliminate sugar, as cancer feeds on sugar. I wish you the very best. oleander soup , "chu_hui_ping" <chu_hui_ping wrote:>> Hi. My mom has stage 4 NSCLC diagnosed since last March and now she has mets to not only her liver but also to her bones and spinal cord. I am desperately looking for something else to help her other than radiotherapy which I read that can make the cancer resistant to other alternative therapies subsequently. Does anyone has any experience treating advanced lung cancer with oleander? As I stay in Singapore and have no way to grow or make my own oleander soup, I am probably going to get sutherlandia OPC. Is this a good option? Open to any suggestion.. Thanks very much.> > HP> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 Hi Everyone, Has anyone heard of a newer X-ray machine called the Digital Bitewing Panorex? It is suppose to block out 90% of the radiation induced from usual x-rays. My holistic dentist is claiming these our entirely more safe, I'm skeptical and won't do x-rays, CTs, Mammo's, Bone Scans etc any longer. Wonder if anyone has had experience with these...trying to do some research before I go under the thing. All I can find online is dentist websites pushing them and saying how great they are. Thank you~ Tammatha - May oleander soup Wednesday, March 11, 2009 10:54 AM Re: Enquiring about lung cancer Hi HP, Getting Sutherlandia OPC is an excellent choice. Oleander is, in fact, effective against lung cancer. Tony has a testimony with regard to his uncle in this regard. Besides ordering Sutherlandia OPC, make sure she follows as much of Tony's Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol as possible. All of it would be ideal. In order to rid one's body of cancer, one must adapt an overall healthy lifestyle. And yes, Oleander is a most important part of this protocol. /anticancer.htm Pay close attention to her diet. First thing to do is eliminate sugar, as cancer feeds on sugar. I wish you the very best. oleander soup , "chu_hui_ping" <chu_hui_ping wrote:>> Hi. My mom has stage 4 NSCLC diagnosed since last March and now she has mets to not only her liver but also to her bones and spinal cord. I am desperately looking for something else to help her other than radiotherapy which I read that can make the cancer resistant to other alternative therapies subsequently. Does anyone has any experience treating advanced lung cancer with oleander? As I stay in Singapore and have no way to grow or make my own oleander soup, I am probably going to get sutherlandia OPC. Is this a good option? Open to any suggestion.. Thanks very much.> > HP> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2009 Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 Greetings, Here is a page from a site I have been reading for a couple of years. http://grouppekurosawa.com/blog/2008_10_21_ Ethel On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 1:15 PM, chu_hui_ping <chu_hui_ping wrote: Hi. My mom has stage 4 NSCLC diagnosed since last March and now she has mets to not only her liver but also to her bones and spinal cord. I am desperately looking for something else to help her other than radiotherapy which I read that can make the cancer resistant to other alternative therapies subsequently. Does anyone has any experience treating advanced lung cancer with oleander? As I stay in Singapore and have no way to grow or make my own oleander soup, I am probably going to get sutherlandia OPC. Is this a good option? Open to any suggestion.. Thanks very much. HP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2009 Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 Greetings again, I just tried to open the site I just sent you...it did not. Looking back, please notice that it did open for me when I added the " _ " at the very end. For some reason beyond me it did not turn " blue " like it is supposed to when pasted in the email. Oh, well, just try again. Also, if all of the technical data is too far out & deep, just skip past it and you will see that he speaks in layman's terms a little way toward the end. I have called him for my cousin, and he will answer any question you have, too. Go to his Home page and check him out. I have found he is not out to sell a bunch of stuff to anyone. He sincerely works to help us. Just try the page again and be sure you have the underscore mark at the very end in the address. Ethel On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 12:06 AM, Ethel Gray <ethelbgray wrote: Greetings, Here is a page from a site I have been reading for a couple of years. http://grouppekurosawa.com/blog/2008_10_21_ Ethel On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 1:15 PM, chu_hui_ping <chu_hui_ping wrote: Hi. My mom has stage 4 NSCLC diagnosed since last March and now she has mets to not only her liver but also to her bones and spinal cord. I am desperately looking for something else to help her other than radiotherapy which I read that can make the cancer resistant to other alternative therapies subsequently. Does anyone has any experience treating advanced lung cancer with oleander? As I stay in Singapore and have no way to grow or make my own oleander soup, I am probably going to get sutherlandia OPC. Is this a good option? Open to any suggestion.. Thanks very much. HP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2009 Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 Oleander is a very good choice for lung cancers with mets to the liver and spine. Non small cell lung cancer is one of the most difficult of all cancers. I knew one guy who tried everything under the sun, including regular mainstream, experiemental mainstream, oriental, herbal and various alternative protocols. The ONLY thing that actually stopped and reversed his tumors was oleander. If it were me, I would take the maximum amount of OPC (45 ml or 6 capsules per day) and also do everything else I could on my suggested anti-cancer protocol, including colloidal silver, inositiol/IP6, blackseed oil (Nigella sativa), blood support, curcumin, grapeseed extract, iodine and more. oleander soup , "chu_hui_ping" <chu_hui_ping wrote:>> Hi. My mom has stage 4 NSCLC diagnosed since last March and now she has mets to not only her liver but also to her bones and spinal cord. I am desperately looking for something else to help her other than radiotherapy which I read that can make the cancer resistant to other alternative therapies subsequently. Does anyone has any experience treating advanced lung cancer with oleander? As I stay in Singapore and have no way to grow or make my own oleander soup, I am probably going to get sutherlandia OPC. Is this a good option? Open to any suggestion.. Thanks very much.> > HP> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2009 Report Share Posted March 14, 2009 Are you talking about inhaled methyl jasmonate? The website looks familiar... HP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2009 Report Share Posted March 14, 2009 Thanks Tony. Do you mean 6 capsules a day - 2 capsules 3 times a day? Before or after food? Can OPC be taken with other things like LDN, melatonin, CellAdam? I am also looking into Pawpaw / Protocel. Can i give concurrently? Thank you so much. HP oleander soup , " Tony " wrote: > > > Oleander is a very good choice for lung cancers with mets to the liver > and spine. Non small cell lung cancer is one of the most difficult of > all cancers. I knew one guy who tried everything under the sun, > including regular mainstream, experiemental mainstream, oriental, herbal > and various alternative protocols. The ONLY thing that actually stopped > and reversed his tumors was oleander. > > If it were me, I would take the maximum amount of OPC (45 ml or 6 > capsules per day) and also do everything else I could on my suggested > anti-cancer protocol, including colloidal silver, inositiol/IP6, > blackseed oil (Nigella sativa), blood support, curcumin, grapeseed > extract, iodine and more. > > > > > oleander soup , " chu_hui_ping " <chu_hui_ping@> > wrote: > > > > Hi. My mom has stage 4 NSCLC diagnosed since last March and now she > has mets to not only her liver but also to her bones and spinal cord. I > am desperately looking for something else to help her other than > radiotherapy which I read that can make the cancer resistant to other > alternative therapies subsequently. Does anyone has any experience > treating advanced lung cancer with oleander? As I stay in Singapore and > have no way to grow or make my own oleander soup, I am probably going to > get sutherlandia OPC. Is this a good option? Open to any suggestion.. > Thanks very much. > > > > HP > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2009 Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 You can take two capsules three times a day or three capsules twice a day, with or without food. It may depend on how well you tolerate the larger doses whether you divide them into two or three doses and whether or not you take them with food. From what our members report, different ways of dividing doses and taking with or without food seems to vary by individual as to how itis best tolerated (and most people, though not all, seem to tolerate oleander quite well - I personally have never had a problem, nor has , my uncle, or my friend Ben Taylor and others I know personally). Oleander is compatible with just about everything imaginable except one should use caution when taking blood thinners or other cardiac gylcosides such as digoxin/digitalis. And Protocel, which works just the opposite of many of the things on my protocol by trying to lower the energy of all cells in order to bring cancer cells to a low enough level to die. It is not an approach I favor and there are a great many things Protocel is not compatible with. We have a number of people here who tried Protocel without getting the results they wanted. I am not aware of anyone who did not get the results the wanted who changed to Protocel and got better results, although I do not rule out the possibility. Excessive use of Paw Paw and Graviola have been linked to Parkinson's in studies conducted in 1998 and 2002, which is one reason I do not highly recommend either as part of my suggested protocol and a reason that I am still gathering information about the oleander/graviola combination mentioned here recently before giving it an endorsement. Some people here and elsewhere have reported success with LDN, though I am neutral on whether or not to use it. CellAdam is getting a lot of publicity currently as a "miracle cancer supplement" which supposedly has a success rate of over 75%, which is promoted by a group of "devout Catholics". Until I find out more, I will remain skeptical. The success rate sounds very good, but I have seen many miracle cancer remedies with high success rates which were more hype than help (Simoncini's baking soda for example). I note that the celladam.com website is no longer available and the use of "devout Catholics" in the marketing is off putting to me. oleander soup , "chu_hui_ping" <chu_hui_ping wrote:>> Thanks Tony. Do you mean 6 capsules a day - 2 capsules 3 times a day? Before or after food? Can OPC be taken with other things like LDN, melatonin, CellAdam? I am also looking into Pawpaw / Protocel. Can i give concurrently?> > Thank you so much.> > HP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 thanks Tony. I have been doing more reading myself and am now more convinced by sutherlandia OPC and the rest of your anti-cancer protocol. Hoping to try OPC and inositol / IP3 asap once I get the products. Thanks so much. HP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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