Guest guest Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 Seeing as how I have taken full doses of Sutherlandia OPC in the past (6 capsules a day)without any problems I decided to start trying my oleander soup at 1/2 tablespoon, which I guess is 1.5 teaspoons. I opted for mixing my soup with organic apple vinegar rather than vodka to avoid the alcohol. Acually what I ended up using was 20 oz soup, 16 oz apple cider, and 4 oz vodka. Ouch. Nausea and indigestion for 6 hours. Nasty acid reflux type stuff too. But no diarrhea. I guess I'll back off, or maybe I should try on an empty stomach instead of a full stomach and see if that makes any difference. I guess I'm looking for feedback from other oleander soup users, both on how I made it and on taking it. To summarize: 1. I ended up with surprisingly little soup at a 1.08 specific gravity -- 20 oz. And this was after boiling a 16 quart pot full of leaves for about 6 hours before removing leaves and filtering, then for another 2 - 3 hours after removing leaves and filtering. Per the directions, I was expecting about 40 oz. 2. The resulting soup (mixed with mostly organic apple cider) really clobbered my stomach when I took 1.5 teaspoons of it, which surprised me because I had handled full doses of Sutherlandia OPC in the past with no problems. Oh -- I am also taking about 1800 mg of bloodroot a day, which causes stomach problems itself, so maybe I should cut those out with the soup? I guess it is one thing to try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 Ive made it with apple cider vinegar and collodial silver as preservatives....the apple cider vinegar brew was like paint stripper to the guts .bad idea no 1.the collodial silver clumps when put into fridge and ended up fizzing and didnt think safe to coninue ingesting.bad idea 2. So in the end I went back to using the vodka because it realy preserves it and you can keep it in the fridge indefinately. I dont like the idea of alcohol but 3/4 of a tablespoon daily for the medicine provided can be lived with i reakon....Pam NZ - jrrjim oleander soup Tuesday, March 03, 2009 4:51 AM More on my home brew Seeing as how I have taken full doses of Sutherlandia OPC in the past (6 capsules a day)without any problems I decided to start trying my oleander soup at 1/2 tablespoon, which I guess is 1.5 teaspoons.I opted for mixing my soup with organic apple vinegar rather than vodka to avoid the alcohol. Acually what I ended up using was 20 oz soup, 16 oz apple cider, and 4 oz vodka. Ouch.Nausea and indigestion for 6 hours. Nasty acid reflux type stuff too. But no diarrhea.I guess I'll back off, or maybe I should try on an empty stomach instead of a full stomach and see if that makes any difference.I guess I'm looking for feedback from other oleander soup users, both on how I made it and on taking it. To summarize:1. I ended up with surprisingly little soup at a 1.08 specific gravity -- 20 oz. And this was after boiling a 16 quart pot full of leaves for about 6 hours before removing leaves and filtering, then for another 2 - 3 hours after removing leaves and filtering. Per the directions, I was expecting about 40 oz.2. The resulting soup (mixed with mostly organic apple cider) really clobbered my stomach when I took 1.5 teaspoons of it, which surprised me because I had handled full doses of Sutherlandia OPC in the past with no problems.Oh -- I am also taking about 1800 mg of bloodroot a day, which causes stomach problems itself, so maybe I should cut those out with the soup? I guess it is one thing to try. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.11.4/1976 - Release 2/27/2009 1:27 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 Okay, well now -- this is the second confirmation I've gotten that apple cider vinegar is NOT a good thing to use with the oleander soup. The first confirmation came via email. Both said basically the same thing -- apple cider vinegar with the oleander will rip up your guts. Yep -- that's what it has done to me. OUCH! Next time I'll go with Wodka. Now, should I use Stolichnaya? I bet black caviar would go good with that too -- loaded with omega 3's! Now that would be a good name for an alternative cancer cure book -- " Choose the Sturgeon Instead of the Surgeon " oleander soup , " Pam Griffin " <pgriff wrote: > > Ive made it with apple cider vinegar and collodial silver as preservatives....the apple cider vinegar brew was like paint stripper to the guts .bad idea no 1.the collodial silver clumps when put into fridge and ended up fizzing and didnt think safe to coninue ingesting.bad idea 2. So in the end I went back to using the vodka because it realy preserves it and you can keep it in the fridge indefinately. I dont like the idea of alcohol but 3/4 of a tablespoon daily for the medicine provided can be lived with i reakon....Pam NZ > - > jrrjim > oleander soup > Tuesday, March 03, 2009 4:51 AM > More on my home brew > > > Seeing as how I have taken full doses of Sutherlandia OPC in the past > (6 capsules a day)without any problems I decided to start trying my > oleander soup at 1/2 tablespoon, which I guess is 1.5 teaspoons. > > I opted for mixing my soup with organic apple vinegar rather than > vodka to avoid the alcohol. Acually what I ended up using was 20 oz > soup, 16 oz apple cider, and 4 oz vodka. > > Ouch. > > Nausea and indigestion for 6 hours. Nasty acid reflux type stuff > too. But no diarrhea. > > I guess I'll back off, or maybe I should try on an empty stomach > instead of a full stomach and see if that makes any difference. > > I guess I'm looking for feedback from other oleander soup users, both > on how I made it and on taking it. > > To summarize: > > 1. I ended up with surprisingly little soup at a 1.08 specific > gravity -- 20 oz. And this was after boiling a 16 quart pot full of > leaves for about 6 hours before removing leaves and filtering, then > for another 2 - 3 hours after removing leaves and filtering. Per the > directions, I was expecting about 40 oz. > > 2. The resulting soup (mixed with mostly organic apple cider) really > clobbered my stomach when I took 1.5 teaspoons of it, which surprised > me because I had handled full doses of Sutherlandia OPC in the past > with no problems. > > Oh -- I am also taking about 1800 mg of bloodroot a day, which causes > stomach problems itself, so maybe I should cut those out with the > soup? I guess it is one thing to try. > > > > > > -- ---------- > > > > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.11.4/1976 - Release Date: 2/27/2009 1:27 PM > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 Hi Pam, We have some old oleander soup (maybe a year) that we keep on hand for the times that we don't have Sutherlandia OPC. It is also kept in the refrigerator and the colloidal silver therein has clumped. We still take it with no adverse effects. In the past, I have also made oleander soup with apple cider vinegar and have had no adverse effects whatsoever. Warm regards, oleander soup , "Pam Griffin" <pgriff wrote:>> Ive made it with apple cider vinegar and collodial silver as preservatives....the apple cider vinegar brew was like paint stripper to the guts .bad idea no 1.the collodial silver clumps when put into fridge and ended up fizzing and didnt think safe to coninue ingesting.bad idea 2. So in the end I went back to using the vodka because it realy preserves it and you can keep it in the fridge indefinately. I dont like the idea of alcohol but 3/4 of a tablespoon daily for the medicine provided can be lived with i reakon....Pam NZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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