I don't understand why dehydration is such a huge issue

[Guest guest]

How quickly you want your body to age, or should I say how quickly you choose for your body to break down or not break down with aging, is the issue here.Hydration is not a simple issue. Drinking distilled water is definitely not a way to hydrate yourself, nor is drinking water that tests as acidic (nearly all bottled waters). Hydration is a new applied science that is changing rapidly.It should be obvious, and testing confirms, that the younger we are, the higher the percentage of water in body composition. Acidosis and dehydration have an effect on enzyme coding, DNA repair, and enzyme life. Lose the ability to properly code enzymes and repair DNA and you are already dying on the installment plan.Just drinking water does not guarantee hydration. If you are not taking in the correct proportion of mineral

salts daily in your diet, all that water you drink goes in and just comes right back out instead of getting into the cells. Ability to absorb mineral salts depends not only on solubility but also on thyroid, adrenal, pituitary glands and enzymes which handle the minerals in the process of manufacture of enzymes.This is a field that must be earnestly studied to get beyond the hype and presuppositions. A good opportunity to study all I've mentioned here is through the cerrification course for applied clinical nutrition. One of these is offered through Standard Process Labs in conjunction with Texas Chiropractic College Postgraduate Division. You can go to Standard Process's website and learn more.Hope to see you there,Michael L. Goebel, DC, ACN--- On Tue, 2/24/09, jrrjim <jim.mcelroy10 wrote:jrrjim <jim.mcelroy10 I don't understand why "dehydration" is such a huge issueoleander soup Date: Tuesday, February 24, 2009, 11:57 AM

 

I really don't get this dehydration issue.

 

I see people walking around with water bottles taking swigs every few

minutes. It makes me wonder why. Are they consuming way too much

salt? Do they have diabetes?

 

Typically I don't drink much of anything for long periods of time, and

I'm just not thirsty. I don't eat much salt or salty foods, and I

don't have a physically oriented job. So maybe that has something to

do with it.

 

I do like a few cups of herbal teas during the day, and I do like ice

water with my meals if the meals are not that moist (e.g., if I'm not

eating a fruit salad or something).

 

When I do drink a lot of water, it seems to go right through me. I

drink, and 30 minutes later I pee. That's okay, but I don't see that

much being held in me.

 

One downside of peeing too much is that it washes all the water

soluable vitamins and minerals right out of you, including some

critical ones for cancer -- vitamin C and magnesium, for example.

 

Dying of thirst must have been a huge issue throughout the millions of

years that evolution must have strongly favored those who could go long

periods without water. Our ancestors did not carry water bottles and

take swigs every few minutes. They got a lot less cancer than we do.

 

I dunno -- I just don't get it. I'm not saying "don't drink so much

water", I'm just saying I don't see the need of toting water bottles

everywhere and taking swigs every 5 or 10 minutes.

[Guest guest]

If you have a healthy properly functioning body, it will tell you when it is thirsty. Just like a healthy and properly functioning body will also tell you when it is hungry. Most of us either do not listen until our body is literally shouting at us or else we drink and eat more or less like programmed robots instead of when we are actually thirsty and hungry.

Certainly you need to keep your body hydrated and guard against dydration due to physical activity or heat, but in normal circumstances a proper diet of mostly raw (and some steamed or lightly cooked) vegetables, juiced vegetables and some fruits and fruit juices will supply most of the water you need.

The eight tall glasses of water thing is pretty much a myth, especially if it is just junk water that goes right through you, washes out nutrients and leaves you soon thirsty for more. Similarly, the three scheduled meals per day thing is pretty much a myth, though most of us to it.

On the other hand, drinking plenty of good water (such as the Kangen water I once tested out from Dr. G) is a good way to flush a lot of the bad stuff out of your system. I liked it and felt an increase in energy.

oleander soup , "jrrjim" <jim.mcelroy10 wrote:>> I really don't get this dehydration issue. > > I see people walking around with water bottles taking swigs every few > minutes. It makes me wonder why. Are they consuming way too much > salt? Do they have diabetes?> > Typically I don't drink much of anything for long periods of time, and > I'm just not thirsty. I don't eat much salt or salty foods, and I > don't have a physically oriented job. So maybe that has something to > do with it.> > I do like a few cups of herbal teas during the day, and I do like ice > water with my meals if the meals are not that moist (e.g., if I'm not > eating a fruit salad or something). > > When I do drink a lot of water, it seems to go right through me. I > drink, and 30 minutes later I pee. That's okay, but I don't see that > much being held in me. > > One downside of peeing too much is that it washes all the water > soluable vitamins and minerals right out of you, including some > critical ones for cancer -- vitamin C and magnesium, for example. > > Dying of thirst must have been a huge issue throughout the millions of > years that evolution must have strongly favored those who could go long > periods without water. Our ancestors did not carry water bottles and > take swigs every few minutes. They got a lot less cancer than we do.> > I dunno -- I just don't get it. I'm not saying "don't drink so much > water", I'm just saying I don't see the need of toting water bottles > everywhere and taking swigs every 5 or 10 minutes.>

[Guest guest]

Dehydration is a major deal. Your blood thickens, your liver does not

work, you can have fainting spells, and you can black out at the top

of mountains due to lack of oxygen to the brain because your blood is

not carrying enough oxygen. This happened to me two weeks ago in

Colorado. I've been skiing for 30 years without altitude sickness.

That day, I had a cup of coffee in the am, then no liquid for three

hours. At the top of the lift, I passed out in the ski hut, and was

given oxygen by the ski patrol, who carried me down in a stretcher. I

was fine the next day, after I bought a " camel back " , and drank almost

a quart of water an hour while skiing in dry, clear weather at 10,000

feet. My daughter was nice when she said " I told you so " . We learn

the hard way. Ed

 

 

 

oleander soup , " Tony " wrote:

>

>

> If you have a healthy properly functioning body, it will tell you when

> it is thirsty. Just like a healthy and properly functioning body will

> also tell you when it is hungry. Most of us either do not listen until

> our body is literally shouting at us or else we drink and eat more or

> less like programmed robots instead of when we are actually thirsty and

> hungry.

>

> Certainly you need to keep your body hydrated and guard against

> dydration due to physical activity or heat, but in normal circumstances

> a proper diet of mostly raw (and some steamed or lightly cooked)

> vegetables, juiced vegetables and some fruits and fruit juices will

> supply most of the water you need.

>

> The eight tall glasses of water thing is pretty much a myth,

especially

> if it is just junk water that goes right through you, washes out

> nutrients and leaves you soon thirsty for more. Similarly, the three

> scheduled meals per day thing is pretty much a myth, though most of us

> to it.

>

> On the other hand, drinking plenty of good water (such as the Kangen

> water I once tested out from Dr. G) is a good way to flush a lot of the

> bad stuff out of your system. I liked it and felt an increase in

> energy.

>

> >

>

> oleander soup , " jrrjim " <jim.mcelroy10@> wrote:

> >

> > I really don't get this dehydration issue.

> >

> > I see people walking around with water bottles taking swigs every few

> > minutes. It makes me wonder why. Are they consuming way too much

> > salt? Do they have diabetes?

> >

> > Typically I don't drink much of anything for long periods of time, and

> > I'm just not thirsty. I don't eat much salt or salty foods, and I

> > don't have a physically oriented job. So maybe that has something to

> > do with it.

> >

> > I do like a few cups of herbal teas during the day, and I do like ice

> > water with my meals if the meals are not that moist (e.g., if I'm not

> > eating a fruit salad or something).

> >

> > When I do drink a lot of water, it seems to go right through me. I

> > drink, and 30 minutes later I pee. That's okay, but I don't see that

> > much being held in me.

> >

> > One downside of peeing too much is that it washes all the water

> > soluable vitamins and minerals right out of you, including some

> > critical ones for cancer -- vitamin C and magnesium, for example.

> >

> > Dying of thirst must have been a huge issue throughout the millions of

> > years that evolution must have strongly favored those who could go

> long

> > periods without water. Our ancestors did not carry water bottles and

> > take swigs every few minutes. They got a lot less cancer than we do.

> >

> > I dunno -- I just don't get it. I'm not saying " don't drink so much

> > water " , I'm just saying I don't see the need of toting water bottles

> > everywhere and taking swigs every 5 or 10 minutes.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Bob for the clarifications.JackMike Golden <goldenmike86oleander soup Sent: Saturday, 28 February 2009 8:13:03Re: Re: I don't understand why "dehydration" is such a huge issue

 

Well, according to their website it has sodium hydroxide in it........Mike

 

AlkaLife® is exclusively marketed by Sang Whang Enterprises, Inc.. Patented ingredients are: Ionized water, Potassium and Sodium Minerals in Hydroxide form (in a proper and healthy ratio of the two minerals). For more information please read article 7 'Water ionizer and AlkaLife' of the Science and Health Series. AlkaLife® comes in a 1.25 oz bottle and lasts approximately 2 months when consumed 20 drops a day. A note of caution: There are imitations of AlkaLife®. Unless these imitation products are infringing the patent, their mineral contents may cause side effects if consumed on a long-term basis. Not all the additives used to increase the pH value of drinking water are the same; please make sure you have the original AlkaLife®.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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--- On Fri, 2/27/09, Bob Banever <bbanever (AT) earthlink (DOT) net> wrote:

Bob Banever <bbanever (AT) earthlink (DOT) net>Re: Re: I don't understand why "dehydration" is such a huge issueoleander soupFriday, February 27, 2009, 11:33 PM

 

 

 

Michael,

 

Alkalife is a combination of 200mg potassium bicarbonate and 73mg of sodium bicarbonate in an enteric coated pill form or liquid. There is no sodium hydroxide (Drano) in it.

 

Bob

 

-

Michael Goebel

oleander soup

Thursday, February 26, 2009 8:24 AM

Re: Re: I don't understand why "dehydration" is such a huge issue

 

 

 

 

If you send me your snail mail address, I will send you some CD's and DVD's with a lot of information about alkaline and microclustered water. I have a lot of these, and I'll pay the stamp.Dr. Goebel--- On Thu, 2/26/09, jrrjim <jim.mcelroy10@ > wrote:

jrrjim <jim.mcelroy10@ > Re: I don't understand why "dehydration" is such a huge issueoleander soupThursday, February 26, 2009, 9:31 AM

 

 

I can't seem to find the ingredients in these drops. I mean, sodium hydroxide (Drano) will raise the ph of water, but it isn't very good for you.Why not just add sodium bicarbonate and/or potassium bicarbonate and/or calcium carbonate to the water?oleander soup, "Bob Banever" <bbanever@.. .> wrote:>> Dr. Goebbel and All,> > Perhaps if you just added some Alkalife drops to good filtered water you wouldn't need those expensive machines.> > http://www.alkalife .com/> > Bob

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

oleander soup , Mike Golden <goldenmike86

wrote:

>

> Bob,

>  

> I was never speaking to the efficacy or safety of it.  The

component chemicals are so dirt cheap you could create a lifetime

supply of the stuff for a few bucks.  These components are easily

puchased from chemical supply outfits on the net. I just found it

amusing that this would be sold as some sort of specialty item.

>  

> Mike

Call me a Commie if you want, but I have a HUGE problem with

entrepeneurs knowingly ripping people off blind, especially when

there is the fear element of cancer involved.

 

It especially infuriates me because the waste of money on the

worthless products could cost a person his or her life, because he or

she is not spending the money on something worthwhile.

 

Yes, those chemicals are easily available. Personally, I wouldn't

recommend messing with or consuming sodium hydroxide. But sodium

bicarbonate is BAKING SODA and it is dirt cheap. Potassium

bicarbonate is a bit harder to find, but you can order it from beer

and wine making supply stores on the web. I just ordered a pound for

$16 including shipping, which was actually a bit of a rip-off, but

not compared to those alkalizing pills. And of course there are many

alkalizing magnesium and calcium agents available for really cheap.

Tums is calcium carbonate! (But it also contains mineral oil and

other impurities, so it is not the best.)

 

Of course, stay far away from aluminum based antacids, such as

rolaids and mylanta.

 

>

> --- On Sat, 2/28/09, Bob Banever <bbanever wrote:

>

> Bob Banever <bbanever

> Re: Re: I don't understand

why " dehydration " is such a huge issue

> oleander soup

> Saturday, February 28, 2009, 1:04 AM

>

>

> Mike,

>  

>      Indeed the Alklalife liquid is Potassium and Sodium

hydroxide.  The bicarb-balance enteric coated pills are Potassium and

Sodium bicarbonate.  There is a difference I hadn't noticed.  It

appears to be a safe and effective product nontheless.

>  

>      Bob

>

>

[Guest guest]

jrrjm,

 

Yes I agree with you but what Bicarb-Balance has going for it is the

enteric coating. HCL will not break it down so the bicarbs get absorbed

directly into the blood stream via the small intestine.

 

Bob

-

" jrrjim " <jim.mcelroy10

<oleander soup >

Saturday, February 28, 2009 9:58 AM

Re: I don't understand why " dehydration " is such a

huge issue

 

 

oleander soup , Mike Golden <goldenmike86

wrote:

>

> Bob,

>

> I was never speaking to the efficacy or safety of it. The

component chemicals are so dirt cheap you could create a lifetime

supply of the stuff for a few bucks. These components are easily

puchased from chemical supply outfits on the net. I just found it

amusing that this would be sold as some sort of specialty item.

>

> Mike

Call me a Commie if you want, but I have a HUGE problem with

entrepeneurs knowingly ripping people off blind, especially when

there is the fear element of cancer involved.

 

It especially infuriates me because the waste of money on the

worthless products could cost a person his or her life, because he or

she is not spending the money on something worthwhile.

 

Yes, those chemicals are easily available. Personally, I wouldn't

recommend messing with or consuming sodium hydroxide. But sodium

bicarbonate is BAKING SODA and it is dirt cheap. Potassium

bicarbonate is a bit harder to find, but you can order it from beer

and wine making supply stores on the web. I just ordered a pound for

$16 including shipping, which was actually a bit of a rip-off, but

not compared to those alkalizing pills. And of course there are many

alkalizing magnesium and calcium agents available for really cheap.

Tums is calcium carbonate! (But it also contains mineral oil and

other impurities, so it is not the best.)

 

Of course, stay far away from aluminum based antacids, such as

rolaids and mylanta.

 

>

> --- On Sat, 2/28/09, Bob Banever <bbanever wrote:

>

> Bob Banever <bbanever

> Re: Re: I don't understand

why " dehydration " is such a huge issue

> oleander soup

> Saturday, February 28, 2009, 1:04 AM

>

>

> Mike,

>

> Indeed the Alklalife liquid is Potassium and Sodium

hydroxide. The bicarb-balance enteric coated pills are Potassium and

Sodium bicarbonate. There is a difference I hadn't noticed. It

appears to be a safe and effective product nontheless.

>

> Bob

>

>

 

 

 

---

 

 

[Guest guest]

Ditto on everything you said Jim.

 

Question- what is potassium bicarbonate ? where and what you used it for ?

 

Hugs Mary

 

-

jrrjim

oleander soup

Sunday, March 01, 2009 4:58 AM

Re: I don't understand why "dehydration" is such a huge issue

 

 

oleander soup , Mike Golden <goldenmike86 wrote:>> Bob,> > I was never speaking to the efficacy or safety of it. The component chemicals are so dirt cheap you could create a lifetime supply of the stuff for a few bucks. These components are easily puchased from chemical supply outfits on the net. I just found it amusing that this would be sold as some sort of specialty item.> > MikeCall me a Commie if you want, but I have a HUGE problem with entrepeneurs knowingly ripping people off blind, especially when there is the fear element of cancer involved.It especially infuriates me because the waste of money on the worthless products could cost a person his or her life, because he or she is not spending the money on something worthwhile.Yes, those chemicals are easily available. Personally, I wouldn't recommend messing with or consuming sodium hydroxide. But sodium bicarbonate is BAKING SODA and it is dirt cheap. Potassium bicarbonate is a bit harder to find, but you can order it from beer and wine making supply stores on the web. I just ordered a pound for $16 including shipping, which was actually a bit of a rip-off, but not compared to those alkalizing pills. And of course there are many alkalizing magnesium and calcium agents available for really cheap. Tums is calcium carbonate! (But it also contains mineral oil and other impurities, so it is not the best.)Of course, stay far away from aluminum based antacids, such as rolaids and mylanta.> > --- On Sat, 2/28/09, Bob Banever <bbanever wrote:> > Bob Banever <bbanever> Re: Re: I don't understand why "dehydration" is such a huge issue> oleander soup > Saturday, February 28, 2009, 1:04 AM> > > Mike,> > Indeed the Alklalife liquid is Potassium and Sodium hydroxide. The bicarb-balance enteric coated pills are Potassium and Sodium bicarbonate. There is a difference I hadn't noticed. It appears to be a safe and effective product nontheless.> > Bob> >

[Guest guest]

Potassium and sodium are matched pairs of elements that are vital for

the proper conduction of the electrical currents in our bodies. If

you look on the periodic chart, sodium (Na) and potassium (k) are in

the same column in the chart (left-most column) which means their

outermost electron shell has similar properties (I'm pretty sure) --

I think they both have one electron in their outer shell. I think

this also makes them very reactive, relatively speaking.

 

At any rate, you need a proper balance of potassium and sodium for

your body's " circuits " to fire correctly. This is why they are

called " electrolytes " . Typically we get way too much sodium (from

salt) and way too little potassium (from fruits and veggies).

Usually it is best for us to try to increase our potassium intake.

 

The discussion was on making the body more alkaline. Both sodium

bicarbonate and potassium bicarbonate will do this. Sodium

bicarbonate is very common and is known as " baking soda " . Taking it

will definitely throw your system more alkaline. It will also

increase your sodium load, perhaps creating a bad imbalance in your

system. If you get a very bad imbalance, you can get severe muscle

cramps or otherwise feel bad.

 

Potassium bicarbonate is chemically very similar to sodium

bicarbonate, but uses potassium instead of sodium. It is harder to

find, and you cannot get it in supermarkets -- perhaps because it is

more expensive to make (???)

 

At any rate, if you want to throw your body more alkaline, I would

suggest potassium bicarbonate instead of sodium bicarbonate, if your

diet is already high in sodium, or perhaps a 50/50 mix of sodium

bicarbonate and potassium bicarbonate to keep the sodium/potassium

balance correct in your body.

 

As I said in a previous post, it appears the best and cheapest place

to get potassium bicarbonate is at beer and wine making supply

stores.

 

oleander soup , " Maria Stathopoulos "

<mary1kon wrote:

>

> Ditto on everything you said Jim.

>

> Question- what is potassium bicarbonate ? where and what you used

it for ?

>

> Hugs Mary

> -

> jrrjim

> oleander soup

> Sunday, March 01, 2009 4:58 AM

> Re: I don't understand why " dehydration "

is such a huge issue

>

>

> oleander soup , Mike Golden <goldenmike86@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Bob,

> >

> > I was never speaking to the efficacy or safety of it. The

> component chemicals are so dirt cheap you could create a lifetime

> supply of the stuff for a few bucks. These components are easily

> puchased from chemical supply outfits on the net. I just found it

> amusing that this would be sold as some sort of specialty item.

> >

> > Mike

> Call me a Commie if you want, but I have a HUGE problem with

> entrepeneurs knowingly ripping people off blind, especially when

> there is the fear element of cancer involved.

>

> It especially infuriates me because the waste of money on the

> worthless products could cost a person his or her life, because

he or

> she is not spending the money on something worthwhile.

>

> Yes, those chemicals are easily available. Personally, I wouldn't

> recommend messing with or consuming sodium hydroxide. But sodium

> bicarbonate is BAKING SODA and it is dirt cheap. Potassium

> bicarbonate is a bit harder to find, but you can order it from

beer

> and wine making supply stores on the web. I just ordered a pound

for

> $16 including shipping, which was actually a bit of a rip-off,

but

> not compared to those alkalizing pills. And of course there are

many

> alkalizing magnesium and calcium agents available for really

cheap.

> Tums is calcium carbonate! (But it also contains mineral oil and

> other impurities, so it is not the best.)

>

> Of course, stay far away from aluminum based antacids, such as

> rolaids and mylanta.

>

> >

> > --- On Sat, 2/28/09, Bob Banever <bbanever@> wrote:

> >

> > Bob Banever <bbanever@>

> > Re: Re: I don't understand

> why " dehydration " is such a huge issue

> > oleander soup

> > Saturday, February 28, 2009, 1:04 AM

> >

> >

> > Mike,

> >

> > Indeed the Alklalife liquid is Potassium and Sodium

> hydroxide. The bicarb-balance enteric coated pills are Potassium

and

> Sodium bicarbonate. There is a difference I hadn't noticed. It

> appears to be a safe and effective product nontheless.

> >

> > Bob

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks a million Jim.

 

good information, no body talks about this things any more, and to tell you the truth i had no idea what potassium bicarbonate was, or use for.

Thanks again.

 

Hugs Mary

 

-

jrrjim

oleander soup

Sunday, March 01, 2009 10:34 AM

Re: I don't understand why "dehydration" is such a huge issue

 

 

Potassium and sodium are matched pairs of elements that are vital for the proper conduction of the electrical currents in our bodies. If you look on the periodic chart, sodium (Na) and potassium (k) are in the same column in the chart (left-most column) which means their outermost electron shell has similar properties (I'm pretty sure) -- I think they both have one electron in their outer shell. I think this also makes them very reactive, relatively speaking.At any rate, you need a proper balance of potassium and sodium for your body's "circuits" to fire correctly. This is why they are called "electrolytes". Typically we get way too much sodium (from salt) and way too little potassium (from fruits and veggies). Usually it is best for us to try to increase our potassium intake.The discussion was on making the body more alkaline. Both sodium bicarbonate and potassium bicarbonate will do this. Sodium bicarbonate is very common and is known as "baking soda". Taking it will definitely throw your system more alkaline. It will also increase your sodium load, perhaps creating a bad imbalance in your system. If you get a very bad imbalance, you can get severe muscle cramps or otherwise feel bad. Potassium bicarbonate is chemically very similar to sodium bicarbonate, but uses potassium instead of sodium. It is harder to find, and you cannot get it in supermarkets -- perhaps because it is more expensive to make (???)At any rate, if you want to throw your body more alkaline, I would suggest potassium bicarbonate instead of sodium bicarbonate, if your diet is already high in sodium, or perhaps a 50/50 mix of sodium bicarbonate and potassium bicarbonate to keep the sodium/potassium balance correct in your body. As I said in a previous post, it appears the best and cheapest place to get potassium bicarbonate is at beer and wine making supply stores. oleander soup , "Maria Stathopoulos" <mary1kon wrote:>> Ditto on everything you said Jim.> > Question- what is potassium bicarbonate ? where and what you used it for ?> > Hugs Mary> - > jrrjim > oleander soup > Sunday, March 01, 2009 4:58 AM> Re: I don't understand why "dehydration" is such a huge issue> > > oleander soup , Mike Golden <goldenmike86@> > wrote:> >> > Bob,> > > > I was never speaking to the efficacy or safety of it. The > component chemicals are so dirt cheap you could create a lifetime > supply of the stuff for a few bucks. These components are easily > puchased from chemical supply outfits on the net. I just found it > amusing that this would be sold as some sort of specialty item.> > > > Mike> Call me a Commie if you want, but I have a HUGE problem with > entrepeneurs knowingly ripping people off blind, especially when > there is the fear element of cancer involved.> > It especially infuriates me because the waste of money on the > worthless products could cost a person his or her life, because he or > she is not spending the money on something worthwhile.> > Yes, those chemicals are easily available. Personally, I wouldn't > recommend messing with or consuming sodium hydroxide. But sodium > bicarbonate is BAKING SODA and it is dirt cheap. Potassium > bicarbonate is a bit harder to find, but you can order it from beer > and wine making supply stores on the web. I just ordered a pound for > $16 including shipping, which was actually a bit of a rip-off, but > not compared to those alkalizing pills. And of course there are many > alkalizing magnesium and calcium agents available for really cheap. > Tums is calcium carbonate! (But it also contains mineral oil and > other impurities, so it is not the best.)> > Of course, stay far away from aluminum based antacids, such as > rolaids and mylanta.> > > > > --- On Sat, 2/28/09, Bob Banever <bbanever@> wrote:> > > > Bob Banever <bbanever@>> > Re: Re: I don't understand > why "dehydration" is such a huge issue> > oleander soup > > Saturday, February 28, 2009, 1:04 AM> > > > > > Mike,> > > > Indeed the Alklalife liquid is Potassium and Sodium > hydroxide. The bicarb-balance enteric coated pills are Potassium and > Sodium bicarbonate. There is a difference I hadn't noticed. It > appears to be a safe and effective product nontheless.> > > > Bob> > > >>

[Guest guest]

Keep in mind that some advanced stage cancer patients are low in both sodium and bicarbonate. You can see this reflected in blood work. In that case sodium bicarbonate is the way to go.

 

Mike--- On Sat, 2/28/09, jrrjim <jim.mcelroy10 wrote:

jrrjim <jim.mcelroy10 Re: I don't understand why "dehydration" is such a huge issueoleander soup Date: Saturday, February 28, 2009, 11:34 PM

 

 

Potassium and sodium are matched pairs of elements that are vital for the proper conduction of the electrical currents in our bodies. If you look on the periodic chart, sodium (Na) and potassium (k) are in the same column in the chart (left-most column) which means their outermost electron shell has similar properties (I'm pretty sure) -- I think they both have one electron in their outer shell. I think this also makes them very reactive, relatively speaking.At any rate, you need a proper balance of potassium and sodium for your body's "circuits" to fire correctly. This is why they are called "electrolytes" . Typically we get way too much sodium (from salt) and way too little potassium (from fruits and veggies). Usually it is best for us to try to increase our potassium intake.The discussion was on making the body more alkaline.. Both sodium bicarbonate and potassium bicarbonate will do

this. Sodium bicarbonate is very common and is known as "baking soda". Taking it will definitely throw your system more alkaline. It will also increase your sodium load, perhaps creating a bad imbalance in your system. If you get a very bad imbalance, you can get severe muscle cramps or otherwise feel bad. Potassium bicarbonate is chemically very similar to sodium bicarbonate, but uses potassium instead of sodium. It is harder to find, and you cannot get it in supermarkets -- perhaps because it is more expensive to make (???)At any rate, if you want to throw your body more alkaline, I would suggest potassium bicarbonate instead of sodium bicarbonate, if your diet is already high in sodium, or perhaps a 50/50 mix of sodium bicarbonate and potassium bicarbonate to keep the sodium/potassium balance correct in your body. As I said in a previous post, it appears the best and cheapest

place to get potassium bicarbonate is at beer and wine making supply stores. oleander soup, "Maria Stathopoulos" <mary1kon@.. .> wrote:>> Ditto on everything you said Jim.> > Question- what is potassium bicarbonate ? where and what you used it for ?> > Hugs Mary> - > jrrjim > oleander soup > Sunday, March 01, 2009 4:58 AM> Re: I don't understand why "dehydration" is such a huge issue> > > oleander soup, Mike Golden <goldenmike86@ > > wrote:>

>> > Bob,> > > > I was never speaking to the efficacy or safety of it. The > component chemicals are so dirt cheap you could create a lifetime > supply of the stuff for a few bucks. These components are easily > puchased from chemical supply outfits on the net. I just found it > amusing that this would be sold as some sort of specialty item.> > > > Mike> Call me a Commie if you want, but I have a HUGE problem with > entrepeneurs knowingly ripping people off blind, especially when > there is the fear element of cancer involved.> > It especially infuriates me because the waste of money on the > worthless products could cost a person his or her life, because he or > she is not spending the money on something worthwhile.> > Yes, those chemicals are easily available. Personally, I wouldn't > recommend

messing with or consuming sodium hydroxide. But sodium > bicarbonate is BAKING SODA and it is dirt cheap. Potassium > bicarbonate is a bit harder to find, but you can order it from beer > and wine making supply stores on the web. I just ordered a pound for > $16 including shipping, which was actually a bit of a rip-off, but > not compared to those alkalizing pills. And of course there are many > alkalizing magnesium and calcium agents available for really cheap. > Tums is calcium carbonate! (But it also contains mineral oil and > other impurities, so it is not the best.)> > Of course, stay far away from aluminum based antacids, such as > rolaids and mylanta.> > > > > --- On Sat, 2/28/09, Bob Banever <bbanever@> wrote:> > > > Bob Banever <bbanever@>> > Re: Re: I

don't understand > why "dehydration" is such a huge issue> > oleander soup> > Saturday, February 28, 2009, 1:04 AM> > > > > > Mike,> > > > Indeed the Alklalife liquid is Potassium and Sodium > hydroxide. The bicarb-balance enteric coated pills are Potassium and > Sodium bicarbonate. There is a difference I hadn't noticed. It > appears to be a safe and effective product nontheless.> > > > Bob> > > >>