That is great news, Mike - thanks for the message!

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Mike, that is great news about your wife!

You are right, no two of us are the same and, while the vast majority of people either have little or no side effects or else soon become adjusted, there are some who have differing degrees of difficulty (and those who are having difficulty or still in the midst of their fight tend to be heard from much more than those that take oleander and follow some, many or even all of the other suggested protocol item).

Your suggestion may be a great ones for those who are having difficulty.

Another tip that may help was provided earlier by Marc when he suggested taking oleander extract or capsules on an empty stomach.

Thanks so much for posting this!

oleander soup , Mike Golden <goldenmike86 wrote:>> First...in support of Rhoda, I'll say that my wife always had the exact problem with the oleander that she has. My wife could never get to the dose appropriate for her stage 4 cancer and stay there long enough to benefit. On the other hand, as a result of the oleander, I noticed that her hair quality improved dramatically. In the last month I decided, out of desperation, to try very small doses of oleander along with very small doses of other herbs that she also had trouble with, that might help with the cancer. These were given along with a blender drink of amino acids and "second string" herbals such as lemon grass powder, all with some noted efficacy in cancer. I gave here this concoction for several weeks. She tolerated it fairly well. We had tumor markers done a few days ago. I'm happy to report that one of her tumor makers has stabilized and the other has dropped 40 points.> Everyone has their own "biochemical individuality".. "One man's meat is another man's poison."> My idea was inspired by the AIDS cocktail approach, wherein smaller doses of a variety of drugs are given.> > Mike> > > > > ________________________________> Rhoda Mead hummingbird541 luellamay129 Cc: oleander soup > Thursday, February 5, 2009 11:37:11 PM> to disagree, I did very poorly with oleander> > > , you said that you know of no-one who didn't thrive on oleander. I definitely did NOT do well.> > I took it religiously for nearly 8 months, despite constant severe diarrhea, using both it OPC or homemade soup. My liver functions fine according to blood tests. I also eat the diet, do Budwig at the same time, do almost all the supplements Tony recommends, regular detoxing, emotional work, and so on. My tumors have continued to grow, and my blood markers for cancer have also risen.> I've stopped oleander, and for now, I can go out of my home and enjoy this spring without constant diarrhea. > > Lueilla you wrote; What about failures? I do not know of a single failure in this group who> came here with at least two or more months of estimated time remaining> and did not have an immune system and major organs - especially the> liver - damaged beyond repair. I know of only three> people who are not still alive even including those with less than two > months and those who had been damaged severely by chemo and/or radiation> - and one of those did the protocol for less than two months (actually> just mainly took oleander and tried to eat healthily) and then stopped> because his oncologist said there was no way we could help and he could>

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Dr. Mike,

 

Do you mind posting the secondary herbs/tonics you gave your wife?

 

Thanks.

 

melly

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Melly,

 

I'll list the components, not the amounts. My wife is a specific case with very low tolerance for most herbs and drugs.

 

Blender drink: Rice milk and grape juice base.....coconut milk....banana....lemon grass powder...ground flax seeds.....Lugol's solution...vitamin D3 drops....sometimes benzaldehyde.

 

With the drink, in doses 1/4 or less of what you would use as

"stand alones": Sutherlandia OPC capsule...Easy Digest TumorX....Cell Reg Paw Paw....Curcumin...Bioperine....Pau D'Arco....mebendazole....griseofulvin...(the last two for a few days, then rest a few days).

 

There are a few components she gets in addition to these, based specifically on her blood work. They are not directed at the cancer, only at the objective findings.

 

Mike

 

 

 

Melly Bag <tita_meloleander soupSent: Saturday, February 7, 2009 9:50:35 AM Re:That is great news, Mike - thanks for the message!

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dr. Mike,

 

Do you mind posting the secondary herbs/tonics you gave your wife?

 

Thanks.

 

melly

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Mike: The Lugol's doesn't interfere with the paw paw?

 

I upped my iodine from about 1.5 mg a day (via 10 kelp pills) to

about 20 mg a day (via " iosol " ) and my energy boost is significant.

I read that boosting the thyroid function interferes with paw paw.

 

oleander soup , Mike Golden <goldenmike86

wrote:

>

> Melly,

>

> I'll list the components, not the amounts.  My wife is a specific

case with very low tolerance for most herbs and drugs.

>

> Blender drink: Rice milk and grape juice base.....coconut

milk....banana....lemon grass powder...ground flax seeds.....Lugol's

solution...vitamin D3 drops....sometimes benzaldehyde.

>

> With the drink, in doses 1/4 or less of what you would use as

> " stand alones " :  Sutherlandia OPC capsule...Easy Digest

TumorX....Cell Reg Paw Paw....Curcumin...Bioperine....Pau

D'Arco....mebendazole....griseofulvin...(the last two for a few days,

then rest a few days).

>  

> There are a few components she gets in addition to these, based

specifically on her blood work.  They are not directed at the cancer,

only at the objective findings.

>  

> Mike

>

>

> ________________________________

>

> Melly Bag <tita_mel

> oleander soup

> Saturday, February 7, 2009 9:50:35 AM

> Re:That is great news, Mike - thanks for

the message!

>

> Dr. Mike,

>

> Do you mind posting the secondary herbs/tonics you gave your wife?

>

> Thanks.

>

> melly

>

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We are only using very small amounts of either one. Just a few drops of iodine and just a single paw paw cap a day. I'm not trying to boost her thyroid function. I'm also not counting on suppressing ATP. All of these things have modes of effect that have not been completely worked out. I'm more interested in the synergy of small amounts of things. What I know is that she can tolerate it, she gets pain in the tumors within ten minutes of taking the goop, and her markers went down.

 

Mike

 

 

 

jrrjim <jim.mcelroy10oleander soup Sent: Saturday, February 7, 2009 12:09:34 PM Re:That is great news, Mike - thanks for the message!

 

Mike: The Lugol's doesn't interfere with the paw paw?I upped my iodine from about 1.5 mg a day (via 10 kelp pills) to about 20 mg a day (via "iosol") and my energy boost is significant. I read that boosting the thyroid function interferes with paw paw.oleander soup, Mike Golden <goldenmike86@ ...> wrote:>> Melly,> > I'll list the components, not the amounts. My wife is a specific case with very low tolerance for most herbs and drugs.> > Blender drink: Rice milk and grape juice base.....coconut milk....banana. ...lemon grass powder...ground flax seeds.....Lugol' s solution...vitamin D3 drops....sometimes benzaldehyde.> > With the drink, in doses 1/4 or less of what you would use as > "stand

alones": Sutherlandia OPC capsule...Easy Digest TumorX....Cell Reg Paw Paw....Curcumin. ..Bioperine. ...Pau D'Arco....mebendazo le....griseofulv in...(the last two for a few days, then rest a few days).> > There are a few components she gets in addition to these, based specifically on her blood work. They are not directed at the cancer, only at the objective findings.> > Mike> > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > Melly Bag <tita_mel@.. .>> oleander soup@ ...> Saturday, February 7, 2009 9:50:35 AM> Re:That is great news, Mike - thanks for the message!> > Dr. Mike,> > Do you mind posting the secondary herbs/tonics you gave your wife?> > Thanks.> > melly>

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Thanks Dr. Mike. Could this work for someone who is really dying already? Double lung cancer, given up by docs, paralyzed from neck down. I gave friends to help him with oleander soup, papaya tea, and graviola, but am not sure if graviola and oleander can work together. No paw-paw in the Philippines, but lots of graviola. This guy worked for the water district and was exposed to chlorine inhalation everyday. Poor one. Do let me know if graviola and oleander are ok together please.

 

thanks again.

 

Melly

 

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Graviola and oleander are OK together. In fact, they form the basis of the new version of cansema.

 

Mike--- On Sun, 2/8/09, Melly Bag <tita_mel wrote:

Melly Bag <tita_mel Re: That is great news, Mike - thanks for the message!oleander soup Date: Sunday, February 8, 2009, 7:42 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks Dr. Mike. Could this work for someone who is really dying already? Double lung cancer, given up by docs, paralyzed from neck down. I gave friends to help him with oleander soup, papaya tea, and graviola, but am not sure if graviola and oleander can work together. No paw-paw in the Philippines, but lots of graviola. This guy worked for the water district and was exposed to chlorine inhalation everyday. Poor one. Do let me know if graviola and oleander are ok together please.

 

thanks again.

 

Melly

 

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Thanks Dr. Mike for new info that graviola and oleander soup can work together. Wow, included in cansema.

 

Melly