Guest guest Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 Dear Tony (and group), My latest blood tests (blood draw on 1/5/08) confirm the continued drop in my PSA (see numbers below), since I started using both Sutherlandia OPC (in liquid form) and the Budwig FOCC (flax oil & cottage cheese). I have reduced substantially the amount of flax I am consuming, for a number of reasons. I am now consuming ONLY two tablespoons of freshly ground flaxseed daily, which is mixed with my ONLY serving of FOCC [2 tablespoons of Flax Oil & half cup of no-fat cottage emulsified), which is eaten at lunchtime. The mixture includes chopped walnuts and chopped fresh fruit (strawberries or apples). I have discovered that flax, in all its forms, is MUCH more powerful than I previously thought it was. I cut back in the amount I am taking because I am convinced that LESS is MORE effective, at least in my personal situation -- in my battle with prostate cancer. Here are my numbers, going back to the beginning: 06/26/06 -- biopsy w/ Gleason socre = 3+3 and PSA = 14.9 06/29/06 -- three-month injection of Zoladex 07/25/06 -- three-month injection of Lupron + Casodex Date | PSA 03/29/06 | 13.9 07/25/06 | 05.85 08/11/06 | 02.01 09/07/06 | 00.86 -- three-month injection of Lupron 10/30/06 | 00.45 11/01/06 -- started Protocel [used it 19 months] 11/16/06 -- aborted ADT & chemotherapy 01/04/07 | 00.24 -- nadir [lowest PSA recorded] Conclusion: It is obvious that ADT (androgen deprivation therapy) causes a precipitous drop in PSA, but did it cause a corresponding decrease in my PCa? No, it did not, as the following numbers show: 04/03/07 | 00.47 04/26/07 | 01.60 05/29/07 | 01.82 06/01/07 -- started TRT w/ testosterone gel-cream 06/29/07 | 04.8 08/14/07 | 07.2 10/23/07 | 16.8 11/27/07 | 18.2 01/02/08 | 19.4 01/24/08 | 25.0 Conclusion: Looks like raising my testosterone level increases the prostate cancer! But this is not true. It is not the testosterone that was raising my PSA but rather the masking effect of ADT (androgen deprivation therapy) was countered by raising my T. The question: How high would my PSA go before it leveled off to show the true extent in the growth of my prostate cancer? The answer: my PSA finally reached its highest point on 7/22/08 at 31.3 and has declined since that time, as follows: 07/22/08 | 31.3 07/25/08 -- started Sutherlandia OPC 09/17/08 -- added Budwig FOCC 09/23/08 | 25.0 10/02/08 -- added Ayurstate 11/11/08 | 22.9 12/26/08 -- added Iodine Therapy 01/05/09 | 21.2 I am doing other things in addition to Sutherlandia OPC and Budwig FOCC. Duane Christensen Dx 6.26.06 @ 68, bPSA 14.9, bPSADT 2.51 yrs, T2c Gl 3+3 {reread 4+3 @ Johns Hopkins} | ADT (5 mns) + chemo (2 mns) aborted 11.16.06 | Protocel 19 mns (11.1.06-6.14.08) | Laetrile (1.11-5.16.08) & maintenance -- w/ Essiac Tea (6.14.08), IP-6 (6.20.08), Flax Hull Lignans (6.23.08); Sutherlandia OPC (7.25.08); Budwig FOCC (9.17.08); Ayurstate (10.2.08); Iodine Therapy (12.26.08). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 Duane,Thank you for your detailed good news! But, refresh my memory..... Are you also following Tony's Anti-Cancer Protocol ? And what other things are you doing?oleander soup , "Duane Christensen" <duanechristensen wrote:>> Dear Tony (and group),> > My latest blood tests (blood draw on 1/5/08) confirm the continued> drop in my PSA (see numbers below), since I started using both> Sutherlandia OPC (in liquid form) and the Budwig FOCC (flax oil & > cottage cheese). > > I have reduced substantially the amount of flax I am consuming, for a> number of reasons. I am now consuming ONLY two tablespoons of freshly> ground flaxseed daily, which is mixed with my ONLY serving of FOCC [2> tablespoons of Flax Oil & half cup of no-fat cottage emulsified),> which is eaten at lunchtime. The mixture includes chopped walnuts and> chopped fresh fruit (strawberries or apples). > > I have discovered that flax, in all its forms, is MUCH more powerful> than I previously thought it was. I cut back in the amount I am taking> because I am convinced that LESS is MORE effective, at least in my> personal situation -- in my battle with prostate cancer.> > Here are my numbers, going back to the beginning:> > 06/26/06 -- biopsy w/ Gleason socre = 3+3 and PSA = 14.9> 06/29/06 -- three-month injection of Zoladex> 07/25/06 -- three-month injection of Lupron + Casodex> > Date | PSA> > 03/29/06 | 13.9> 07/25/06 | 05.85> 08/11/06 | 02.01> 09/07/06 | 00.86 -- three-month injection of Lupron> 10/30/06 | 00.45> 11/01/06 -- started Protocel [used it 19 months]> 11/16/06 -- aborted ADT & chemotherapy > 01/04/07 | 00.24 -- nadir [lowest PSA recorded]> > Conclusion: It is obvious that ADT (androgen deprivation therapy)> causes a precipitous drop in PSA, but did it cause a corresponding> decrease in my PCa? No, it did not, as the following numbers show:> > 04/03/07 | 00.47> 04/26/07 | 01.60> 05/29/07 | 01.82> 06/01/07 -- started TRT w/ testosterone gel-cream> 06/29/07 | 04.8> 08/14/07 | 07.2> 10/23/07 | 16.8> 11/27/07 | 18.2> 01/02/08 | 19.4> 01/24/08 | 25.0> > Conclusion: Looks like raising my testosterone level increases the > prostate cancer! But this is not true. It is not the testosterone that> was raising my PSA but rather the masking effect of ADT (androgen> deprivation therapy) was countered by raising my T. > > The question: How high would my PSA go before it leveled off to show> the true extent in the growth of my prostate cancer? > > The answer: my PSA finally reached its highest point on 7/22/08 at> 31.3 and has declined since that time, as follows:> > 07/22/08 | 31.3> 07/25/08 -- started Sutherlandia OPC> 09/17/08 -- added Budwig FOCC> 09/23/08 | 25.0> 10/02/08 -- added Ayurstate> 11/11/08 | 22.9> 12/26/08 -- added Iodine Therapy> 01/05/09 | 21.2> > I am doing other things in addition to Sutherlandia OPC and Budwig FOCC.> > Duane Christensen> > Dx 6.26.06 @ 68, bPSA 14.9, bPSADT 2.51 yrs, T2c Gl 3+3 {reread 4+3 @> Johns Hopkins} | ADT (5 mns) + chemo (2 mns) aborted 11.16.06 |> Protocel 19 mns (11.1.06-6.14.08) | Laetrile (1.11-5.16.08) & > maintenance -- w/ Essiac Tea (6.14.08), IP-6 (6.20.08), Flax Hull> Lignans (6.23.08); Sutherlandia OPC (7.25.08); Budwig FOCC (9.17.08);> Ayurstate (10.2.08); Iodine Therapy (12.26.08).> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 Hi , The information you request is all there in the summary under my signature: Dx 6.26.06 @ 68, bPSA 14.9, bPSADT 2.51 yrs, T2c Gl 3+3 {reread 4+3 @ Johns Hopkins} | ADT (5 mns) + chemo (2 mns) aborted 11.16.06 | Protocel 19 mns (11.1.06-6.14.08) | Laetrile (1.11-5.16.08) & maintenance -- w/ Essiac Tea (6.14.08), IP-6 (6.20.08), Flax Hull Lignans (6.23.08); Sutherlandia OPC (7.25.08); Budwig FOCC (9.17.08); Ayurstate (10.2.08); Iodine Therapy (12.26.08). I am not following Toni's Anti-Cancer Protocol as such, though several aspects of it are included in my protocol. Other aspects of his protocol are on hold, as needed. I was diagnosed with prostate cancer [stage Tcc = limited to the prostate gland] by needle biopsy on 6/26/06 with a beginning PSA of 14.9, a beginning PSA doubling time of 2.51 years, and a Gleason score of 3+3, which was subsequently reread at Johns Hopkins Medical Center as 4+3. I wrong-headedly chose hormone therapy [ADT = androgen deprivation therapy: Lupron/Casodex/Proscar] at the outset PLUS a so-called mild form of chemotherapy, which I subsequently aborted after 9 of 12 scheduled sessions, and entered the world of alternative medicine instead. I chose Protocel, which I used for 19 months [11/1/06 through 6/14/08], while I waited for my body to recover from ADT. I started TRT (testosterone replacement therapy) using a topical gel-cream on June 1, 2007. Six months later, I used Laetrile (vitamin B17) therapy at home, which I continue to the present time as maintenance with 4 teaspoons of ground apricot kernels in my barley flakes cereal for breakfast. I switched from Protocel to Essiac Tea on June 14, 2008. I added IP-6 a week later (6/20/08), Flax Hull Lignans (6/23/08), Sutherlandia OPC (7/25/08), and Budwig FOCC (Flax Oil and Cottage Cheese) on 9/17/08. I have more recently added an Indian herbal product called Ayurstate (10/2/08) and a form of Iodine Therapy (12/26/08), which I am using in a 60-day experiment with specific goals in mind and appropriate blood testing. I hope this is helpful. I am also in the midst of a carefully designed program of restoring and maintaining proper hormone balance using saliva testing through Diagnos-Techs Laboratory in Washington State. Duane Christensen ***** oleander soup , " May " <luellamay129 wrote: > > Duane, > > Thank you for your detailed good news! But, refresh my memory..... Are > you also following Tony's Anti-Cancer Protocol > </anticancer.htm> ? And what other things are you > doing? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 Thank you again for your thoroughness Duane. And yes, keep us posted in every detail.oleander soup , "Duane Christensen" <duanechristensen wrote:>> Hi ,> > The information you request is all there in the summary under my> signature:> > Dx 6.26.06 @ 68, bPSA 14.9, bPSADT 2.51 yrs, T2c Gl 3+3 {reread 4+3 @> Johns Hopkins} | ADT (5 mns) + chemo (2 mns) aborted 11.16.06 |> Protocel 19 mns (11.1.06-6.14.08) | Laetrile (1.11-5.16.08) & > maintenance -- w/ Essiac Tea (6.14.08), IP-6 (6.20.08), Flax Hull> Lignans (6.23.08); Sutherlandia OPC (7.25.08); Budwig FOCC (9.17.08);> Ayurstate (10.2.08); Iodine Therapy (12.26.08).> > I am not following Toni's Anti-Cancer Protocol as such, though several> aspects of it are included in my protocol. Other aspects of his> protocol are on hold, as needed. > > I was diagnosed with prostate cancer [stage Tcc = limited to the> prostate gland] by needle biopsy on 6/26/06 with a beginning PSA of> 14.9, a beginning PSA doubling time of 2.51 years, and a Gleason score> of 3+3, which was subsequently reread at Johns Hopkins Medical Center> as 4+3. > > I wrong-headedly chose hormone therapy [ADT = androgen deprivation> therapy: Lupron/Casodex/Proscar] at the outset PLUS a so-called mild> form of chemotherapy, which I subsequently aborted after 9 of 12> scheduled sessions, and entered the world of alternative medicine> instead. > > I chose Protocel, which I used for 19 months [11/1/06 through> 6/14/08], while I waited for my body to recover from ADT. I started> TRT (testosterone replacement therapy) using a topical gel-cream on> June 1, 2007. Six months later, I used Laetrile (vitamin B17) therapy> at home, which I continue to the present time as maintenance with 4> teaspoons of ground apricot kernels in my barley flakes cereal for> breakfast.> > I switched from Protocel to Essiac Tea on June 14, 2008. I added IP-6> a week later (6/20/08), Flax Hull Lignans (6/23/08), Sutherlandia OPC> (7/25/08), and Budwig FOCC (Flax Oil and Cottage Cheese) on 9/17/08. > > I have more recently added an Indian herbal product called Ayurstate> (10/2/08) and a form of Iodine Therapy (12/26/08), which I am using in> a 60-day experiment with specific goals in mind and appropriate blood> testing. > > I hope this is helpful. I am also in the midst of a carefully designed> program of restoring and maintaining proper hormone balance using> saliva testing through Diagnos-Techs Laboratory in Washington State.> > Duane Christensen> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 Duane, Congratulations, i am so happy for you. Keep up the good work and soon with God's help you shall win! Melly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 oleander soup , " Duane Christensen " <duanechristensen wrote: >> I am also in the midst of a carefully designed > program of restoring and maintaining proper hormone balance using > saliva testing through Diagnos-Techs Laboratory in Washington State. > > Duane Christensen > Duane, I am certainly impressed with your efforts, and I believe you must be doing a lot of research to be able to make these choices of supplements and therapies. But I wonder about the hormonal testing. I have done saliva testing and it is considered the most accurate and best way to test adrenal function. Mine is very weak and this is one of my main problems. However, saliva is not considered accurate for the testing of sex hormones or thyroid function. In my own case my testosterone and thryoid tests were quite different, when comparing the saliva results to blood testing. Its true I have heard various explanations for that, but I am not aware that overall the saliva gives a good picture of sex hormones. What is it you have learned about this? By the way, through your journey with prostate cancer, were your adrenals fatigued? Do you know what your cortisol burden was from saliva testing? Wayne > ***** > > oleander soup , " May " <luellamay129@> > wrote: > > > > Duane, > > > > Thank you for your detailed good news! But, refresh my memory..... Are > > you also following Tony's Anti-Cancer Protocol > > </anticancer.htm> ? And what other things are you > > doing? > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 Wayne, Join the following and learn from an expert: http://health.HormonesandHealth-Naturally/ I tried to follow the protocol of the late Dr. John R. Lee, M.D., working through a local compounding pharmacist and a specialist who had worked with a number of Dr. Lee's patient in years past. After a year, I discovered Pat (owner of above group) and got introduced to Diagnos-Techs. I am sending them my fourth eMHP (expanded Male Hormone Panel) kit in tomorrow's mail. I have learned more about my hormones and saliva testing in the past two months than I did in the previous year. In my opinion, there is probably no more important single thing to do to fight prostate cancer than to maintain proper hormone balance. Prostate cancer is a hormone driven disease. Moreover, everything mainstream medicine offers is guaranteed to foul up your hormone system for many months. It took me two full years to get the after affects of ADT (androgen deprivation therapy) out of my system. Duane Christensen oleander soup , " culver_z " <culver_z wrote: > > oleander soup , " Duane Christensen " > <duanechristensen@> wrote: > >> I am also in the midst of a carefully designed > > program of restoring and maintaining proper hormone balance using > > saliva testing through Diagnos-Techs Laboratory in Washington State. > > > > Duane Christensen > > > Duane, > I am certainly impressed with your efforts, and I believe > you must be doing a lot of research to be able to make these choices > of supplements and therapies. But I wonder about the hormonal > testing. I have done saliva testing and it is considered the most > accurate and best way to test adrenal function. Mine is very weak > and this is one of my main problems. However, saliva is not > considered accurate for the testing of sex hormones or thyroid > function. In my own case my testosterone and thryoid tests were > quite different, when comparing the saliva results to blood testing. > Its true I have heard various explanations for that, but I am not > aware that overall the saliva gives a good picture of sex hormones. > What is it you have learned about this? By the way, through your > journey with prostate cancer, were your adrenals fatigued? Do you > know what your cortisol burden was from saliva testing? > Wayne > > ***** > > > > oleander soup , " May " <luellamay129@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Duane, > > > > > > Thank you for your detailed good news! But, refresh my > memory..... Are > > > you also following Tony's Anti-Cancer Protocol > > > </anticancer.htm> ? And what other things > are you > > > doing? > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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