Guest guest Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 oleander soup , Melly Bag <tita_mel wrote: > > Tony, > > I hope i don't violate your rules. Just want to be helpful. > > Here is something i found at the Weston Price Foundation. Carica Papaya (pawpaw) contains an enzyme better than pancreatin. Also the tea instruction is the same that is/was used by cancer victims like Stan Sheldon of Australia. ____________________ Fabulous info Melly, thank you! Love, maracuja Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 Papaya is NOT Paw Paw. At least not how the words are generally used. oleander soup , " Maracuja " <howdurdago wrote: > > oleander soup , Melly Bag <tita_mel@> wrote: > > > > Tony, > > > > I hope i don't violate your rules. Just want to be helpful. > > > > Here is something i found at the Weston Price Foundation. Carica > Papaya (pawpaw) contains an enzyme better than pancreatin. Also the > tea instruction is the same that is/was used by cancer victims like > Stan Sheldon of Australia. > ____________________ > Fabulous info Melly, thank you! > Love, > maracuja > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 Please give the Latin name of the one I should use. We can only grow mountain pawpaw, babaco, toronchis and chamburos in NZ but I don't know that they have anti-cancer properties. I've only grown the mountain pawpaw (Carica candamarcensis) and babaco. The former doesn't last long as, although the tree is thick-trunked, it is soft and fibrous and is prone to storm damage. The fruit aren't particularly flavoursome. Babaco are sweet and watery.The imports from either the Pacific Islands or from the Philippines are irradiated, so worse than useless.Many New Zealanders used to travel to the Cook Islands to undergo a papaya leaf cancer treatment. Thanks in advance for any further info you may have.Maracuja--- On Tue, 1/13/09, jrrjim <jim.mcelroy10 wrote:jrrjim <jim.mcelroy10 Re: Papain info - thanks Mellyoleander soup Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2009, 2:42 PM Papaya is NOT Paw Paw. At least not how the words are generally used. oleander soup, "Maracuja" <howdurdago@ ...> wrote: > > oleander soup, Melly Bag <tita_mel@> wrote: > > > > Tony, > > > > I hope i don't violate your rules. Just want to be helpful. > > > > Here is something i found at the Weston Price Foundation. Carica > Papaya (pawpaw) contains an enzyme better than pancreatin. Also the > tea instruction is the same that is/was used by cancer victims like > Stan Sheldon of Australia. > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > Fabulous info Melly, thank you! > Love, > maracuja > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 Jim, Here in the US pawpaw is a tree in the Northeast. In some parts of the world papaya is referred to as pawpaw i.e., Australia, South America. Melly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 The scientific name is carica papaya. Here are different names of carica papaya: PAPAYA Carica papaya L. Caricaceae Common Names: Papaya, Papaw or Paw Paw (Australia), Mamao (Brazil), Tree Melon. Related Species: Babaco (Carica pentagona), Mountain Papaya (C. pubescens), Chamburo (C. stipulata). Family: Caricaceae Genus: Carica Species: papaya Common Names: Papaya, chich put, fan kua, kavunagaci, lechoso, lohong si phle, mapaza, mu kua, papailler, papaw, papaye, papayer, pawpaw tree, pepol, tinti, wan shou kuo, betik petik, gandul, katela gantung, kates, kepaya, kuntaia Melly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 The tree which grows in the Northeast under the name of papaw is probably a totally different variety than the Papaya tree which produces edible fruits and which grows only in temperate and tropical zones. It would never survive in the Northeast. Andre -- In oleander soup , Melly Bag <tita_mel wrote: > > The scientific name is carica papaya. Here are different names of carica papaya: > > PAPAYA > > Carica papaya L. > Caricaceae > Common Names: Papaya, Papaw or Paw Paw (Australia), Mamao (Brazil), Tree Melon. > Related Species: Babaco (Carica pentagona), Mountain Papaya (C. pubescens), Chamburo (C. stipulata). > > > Family: Caricaceae > Genus: Carica > Species: papaya > Common Names: Papaya, chich put, fan kua, kavunagaci, lechoso, lohong si phle, mapaza, mu kua, papailler, papaw, papaye, papayer, pawpaw tree, pepol, tinti, wan shou kuo, betik petik, gandul, katela gantung, kates, kepaya, kuntaia > > > Melly > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 Oh excellent - thanks so much for that. Now I know what I'm looking at!Maracuja--- On Tue, 1/13/09, Melly Bag <tita_mel wrote:Melly Bag <tita_mel Re: Papain info - thanks Mellyoleander soup Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2009, 8:30 PM The scientific name is carica papaya. Here are different names of carica papaya: PAPAYA Carica papaya L. Caricaceae Common Names: Papaya, Papaw or Paw Paw (Australia), Mamao (Brazil), Tree Melon. Related Species: Babaco (Carica pentagona), Mountain Papaya (C. pubescens), Chamburo (C. stipulata). Family: Caricaceae Genus: Carica Species: papaya Common Names: Papaya, chich put, fan kua, kavunagaci, lechoso, lohong si phle, mapaza, mu kua, papailler, papaw, papaye, papayer, pawpaw tree, pepol, tinti, wan shou kuo, betik petik, gandul, katela gantung, kates, kepaya, kuntaia Melly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 Maracuja, Papain is the healing property of papaya. I understand papain works by helping in protein digestion. It opens up the hard protein covering of cancer cells so the immune system can attack the cancer cell and eventually kill it. The names you mentioned of your trees in NZ are cousins of papaya. I am not sure if it has the same medicinal use. If you buy organic ripe papaya, how about getting the seeds and plant them, who knows some of those seeds might make it to become a nice tree. It takes only a year or two for the papaya tree to fruit with proper care. Remember, it can work for some and not for others. Use non-metallic/non-corrosive pots for brewing leaves. For more info on how papaya works on cancer, visit: www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=foodspice & dbid=47 - http://papayaleavesforcancer.com/ (Go to ebook on left of homepage which has excerpts of a patent application with wipo.) and http://www.middlepath.com.au/qol/pawpaw01.php (Stan Sheldon is in Australia where they call papaya pawpaw. Take note of how he brewed his papaya leaves.) Am surprised, there are more websites to visit on this subject. Melly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 Thanks again for lots of info Melly.The tropical fruit is imported and irradiated at the border. Even if the source was organic, if it is imported it would also probably be sprayed with some toxic concoction.No one has managed to cultivate it here yet. Presumably the radiation would render the seeds sterile. Oddly papain reduces the toxic effect of radio"therapy", so perhaps some of the seeds might escape this destructive bureaucratic process.I use thick glass saucepans, like the American Corning ware I think. They were ideal for brewing coffee for enemas. I also use them for processing elderberries - picking them now. Our cat is disappointed - little waxeyes love the fruit, so he thinks that those bushes are his breakfast bar. I beat him to it - I leave the highest berries for the tiny birds and the shrubs are too light to support the weight of the cat. Side-tracked, sorry!I think I will stick to the papain found in my proteolytic enzyme capsules for the meantime.Amazing for fibrinolysis, if anyone has ever suffered from adhesions following abdominal surgery. Gone within 3 months!Maracuja--- On Tue, 1/13/09, Melly Bag <tita_mel wrote:Melly Bag <tita_mel Re: Papain info - thanks Mellyoleander soup Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2009, 9:05 PM Maracuja, Papain is the healing property of papaya. I understand papain works by helping in protein digestion. It opens up the hard protein covering of cancer cells so the immune system can attack the cancer cell and eventually kill it. The names you mentioned of your trees in NZ are cousins of papaya. I am not sure if it has the same medicinal use. If you buy organic ripe papaya, how about getting the seeds and plant them, who knows some of those seeds might make it to become a nice tree. It takes only a year or two for the papaya tree to fruit with proper care. Remember, it can work for some and not for others. Use non-metallic/ non-corrosive pots for brewing leaves. For more info on how papaya works on cancer, visit: www.whfoods. com/genpage. php?tname= foodspice & dbid=47 - http://papayaleaves forcancer. com/ (Go to ebook on left of homepage which has excerpts of a patent application with wipo.) and http://www.middlepa th.com.au/ qol/pawpaw01. php (Stan Sheldon is in Australia where they call papaya pawpaw. Take note of how he brewed his papaya leaves.) Am surprised, there are more websites to visit on this subject. Melly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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